Turkish Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 (edited) IN April we sold out for a friday night game that was live on telly. Reading also brought a full allocation of 3,200. THey haven't sold out their smaller allocation and we haven't sold out the home sections for a saturday 3pm kick off in the Premier League. I thought we were GUARENTEED to see bigger crowds in the Premier League? What is happening? Arguably this game is just as big as its a relegation six pointer, apathy seems to rule at the moment amoungst both sets of fans. Edited 5 December, 2012 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 Had to get a Block 1 ticket for two together when ordering last week - it must be close to a sell-out surely? Given what's said about Reading fans (I have no opinion on them) would we be expecting them to sell out with all those big shopping centres that they have nearby to compete at this time of year.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 December, 2012 Author Share Posted 5 December, 2012 They are the Wigan of the south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 Back in the old Premier League days we used to sell out all of our games weeks in advance AND get thousands paying on the day. Things just aren't the same any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 They are the Wigan of the south. I can personally vouch for the fact that the Reading pies cannot compete with the egg-chucking, whippet fanciers' offerings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 How long is the waiting list for a season ticket, these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 December, 2012 Author Share Posted 5 December, 2012 Back in the old Premier League days we used to sell out all of our games weeks in advance AND get thousands paying on the day. Things just aren't the same any more. was that in the days of dynamic pricing or didnt we need it back then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 Saints are running at 93% capacity (32869) so far this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the colonel Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 IN April we sold out for a friday night game that was live on telly. Reading also brought a full allocation of 3,200. THey haven't sold out their smaller allocation and we have sold out the home sections for a saturday 3pm kick off in the Premier League. I thought we were GUARENTEED to see bigger crowds in the Premier League? What is happening? Arguably this game is just as big as its a relegation six pointer, apathy seems to rule at the moment amoungst both sets of fans. If reading haven't sold how come they have been given extra tickets: http://www.readingfc.co.uk/news/article/extra-saints-tickets-041212-525774.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 was that in the days of dynamic pricing or didnt we need it back then? It wasn't needed. We also had thousands nay tens of thousands of fans who knew games had sold out and therefore didn't bother trying for tickets (except the thousands who bought on the day for all those games that were sold out weeks in advance). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 If reading haven't sold how come they have been given extra tickets: http://www.readingfc.co.uk/news/article/extra-saints-tickets-041212-525774.aspx The clue is in the article. The club were given an initial allocation of 1753 tickets - but after high demand have taken on an extra 700 seats, taking the allocation up to 2,453. So they still have a reduced allocation (they can and previously have had up to 3,200) and it hasn't sold out yet (hence tickets still being on sale). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 If reading haven't sold how come they have been given extra tickets: http://www.readingfc.co.uk/news/article/extra-saints-tickets-041212-525774.aspx Look at how many they have been given. 3200 is the full away allocation, they are miles off that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 December, 2012 Author Share Posted 5 December, 2012 If reading haven't sold how come they have been given extra tickets: http://www.readingfc.co.uk/news/article/extra-saints-tickets-041212-525774.aspx If you read the aticle properly you'd see they took the initial allocation of 1700, they've now got 2,500. the full away allocation is 3,200, which they sold last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 December, 2012 Author Share Posted 5 December, 2012 It wasn't needed. We also had thousands nay tens of thousands of fans who knew games had sold out and therefore didn't bother trying for tickets (except the thousands who bought on the day for all those games that were sold out weeks in advance). and correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't this at a time when we had no investment or champions league ambtions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 and correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't this at a time when we had no investment or champions league ambtions? It was; and even in the season we finished 20th in the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 You two really have a bee in your bonnet about this attendance lark. (Turkish/Kraken - though its pretty obvious who I'm referring to) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 Fans like watching winning team shock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 You two really have a bee in your bonnet about this attendance lark. (Turkish/Kraken - though its pretty obvious who I'm referring to) Probably, yes. I guess it stems from being told we were wrong so very often about it, when we were nothing of the sort. Tales of previously selling out weeks in advance for all our games (and somehow still selling thousands of tickets on the day) are now being proved as complete fabrication, and there (thankfully) seems to be a bit more reality surrounding our level of fanbase and attendance expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Kirkup Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 1916 left as of 5mins ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 1916 left as of 5mins ago And if Reading had sold their full allocation it would be near enough sold out then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 And if Reading had sold their full allocation it would be near enough sold out then. Why? Only a fraction of extra seats in Block 43 have gone on sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 Probably, yes. I guess it stems from being told we were wrong so very often about it, when we were nothing of the sort. Tales of previously selling out weeks in advance for all our games (and somehow still selling thousands of tickets on the day) are now being proved as complete fabrication, and there (thankfully) seems to be a bit more reality surrounding our level of fanbase and attendance expectations. As someone who reads more than posts, it is very tedious fella always having to read the same people recite the same sarcastic point scoring drivel. Sorry if that offends. (yeah yeah, I know, don't read it if you don't like it etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 December, 2012 Author Share Posted 5 December, 2012 Probably, yes. I guess it stems from being told we were wrong so very often about it, when we were nothing of the sort. Tales of previously selling out weeks in advance for all our games (and somehow still selling thousands of tickets on the day) are now being proved as complete fabrication, and there (thankfully) seems to be a bit more reality surrounding our level of fanbase and attendance expectations. Yep, over and over again we were told how wrong we were. that we sold out every game easily and there were thousands of fans being turned away every week and thousands more who didn't bother trying as they knew games would be sold out. We were told endlessly how massive our catchment area was an how there were thousands of people in Cirencester, Truro, Trowbride and Lewes who would come to Southampton to see premier league football. We were told we needed a bigger stadium NOW and that there was going to be a made scramble for tickets week in week out. It doesn't seem to be quite working out how we were told it would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 As someone who reads more than posts, it is very tedious fella always having to read the same people recite the same sarcastic point scoring drivel. Sorry if that offends. (yeah yeah, I know, don't read it if you don't like it etc) Doesn't offend me pal, you carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 December, 2012 Author Share Posted 5 December, 2012 As someone who reads more than posts, it is very tedious fella always having to read the same people recite the same sarcastic point scoring drivel. Sorry if that offends. (yeah yeah, I know, don't read it if you don't like it etc) I'm offended and have reported your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 Yep, over and over again we were told how wrong we were. that we sold out every game easily and there were thousands of fans being turned away every week and thousands more who didn't bother trying as they knew games would be sold out. We were told endlessly how massive our catchment area was an how there were thousands of people in Cirencester, Truro, Trowbride and Lewes who would come to Southampton to see premier league football. We were told we needed a bigger stadium NOW and that there was going to be a made scramble for tickets week in week out. It doesn't seem to be quite working out how we were told it would. By who? MLG and his army of one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 I'm offended and have reported your post. Why don't you also send him tons of abuse by PM? That's the really cool and hard thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 December, 2012 Author Share Posted 5 December, 2012 By who? MLG and his army of one? He was one. Franks Cousin was another and of course Wes Ender, with his "of course we need a 50k stadium now and can easily fill it, didn't they say man would never walk on the moon" logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 Probably, yes. I guess it stems from being told we were wrong so very often about it, when we were nothing of the sort. Tales of previously selling out weeks in advance for all our games (and somehow still selling thousands of tickets on the day) are now being proved as complete fabrication, and there (thankfully) seems to be a bit more reality surrounding our level of fanbase and attendance expectations. So will you now stfu about attendances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 Why don't you also send him tons of abuse by PM? That's the really cool and hard thing to do. I'd listen to this advice if I were you Turkish, DPS knows what it takes to be a forum hardman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 He was one. Franks Cousin was another and of course Wes Ender, with his "of course we need a 50k stadium now and can easily fill it, didn't they say man would never walk on the moon" logic. The ranks are swelling - an intimidating total of three (granted the odd straggler here and there). Your shtick might work if you were actually in the minority on this subject. You're not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 So will you now stfu about attendances? Will I balls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 The premier league is too expensive/uncompetitive and games can be seen for free. Add to that it's sanitised to **** and hyped beyond belief and most people i know are sick to death of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 December, 2012 Author Share Posted 5 December, 2012 Will I balls! I will when MLG admits he was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 He was one. Franks Cousin was another and of course Wes Ender, with his "of course we need a 50k stadium now and can easily fill it, didn't they say man would never walk on the moon" logic. This still makes me laugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 Attendances are sh!t because we are sh!t, and the economy is f*cked. You don't need to be Brain of Britain to figure that one out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Benali Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 Why didnt you make a thread about the attendances for the past few games? Or do they not fit with your anti Saints agenda because they were sold out pretty much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 December, 2012 Author Share Posted 5 December, 2012 Attendances are sh!t because we are sh!t, and the economy is f*cked. You don't need to be Brain of Britain to figure that one out. This wasnt a factor in the predicted "mad scramble for tickets" only 4 months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 December, 2012 Author Share Posted 5 December, 2012 Why didnt you make a thread about the attendances for the past few games? Or do they not fit with your anti Saints agenda because they were sold out pretty much? Anti Saints agenda!!! They weren't sold out though were they. What's your point? I'm simply point out that exactly the same game attracted a bigger attendance when it was on a friday night and live on television and in a lower divison. We were promised attendances would go massively UP this season, it seems in this case they are actually going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 Why didnt you make a thread about the attendances for the past few games? Or do they not fit with your anti Saints agenda because they were sold out pretty much? What; such as the 30,501 against Swansea that didn't sell out? The 31,410 against Newcastle which didn't (quite) sell out? Or the 29,325 against Norwich which didn't sell out? Which one of those games would you have liked a thread about? Sorry to repeat those figures but my anti-Saints agenda won't feed itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonroader07 Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 Oi Kraken, you have lost this arguement, get down the Benefits Office and STFU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 To be fair the last game was a championship decider more or less. Huge huge game. The biggest game of the season. The game coming up is not as big. Shame we aren't selling out, but I'm afraid the bloody tickets are way overpriced for the more casual fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 Could well have something to do with the insane pricing at prem games (35 quid for ticket for Reading with pretty much no discounts for kids/OAPs) and crap economy with Xmas just round the corner. By way of comparison, I can go see a very successful MLB side (washington Nationals) with a good seat for as little as $8. And a terrible NBA side for as little as $2 (wizards). Add to that, most games can now be streamed live and I would imagine paying attendances play only a small part in revenue generation for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 They are the Wigan of the south. You have to pay me royalties every time you use that phrase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 How is Reading not taking the full allocation our fault exactly? Also seeing as it's wednesday and the game could easily sell out, wouldn't it have been better to do this thread AFTER the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 December, 2012 Author Share Posted 5 December, 2012 You have to pay me royalties every time you use that phrase. Go back to your slough bedsit Bradley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Benali Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 What; such as the 30,501 against Swansea that didn't sell out? The 31,410 against Newcastle which didn't (quite) sell out? Or the 29,325 against Norwich which didn't sell out? Which one of those games would you have liked a thread about? Sorry to repeat those figures but my anti-Saints agenda won't feed itself. So what your saying is if a match is a few hundred under capacity then thats **** attendance and we should be worried? Not sure if serious or just trolling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 So what your saying is if a match is a few hundred under capacity then thats **** attendance and we should be worried? Not sure if serious or just trolling? Where have I said its a sh*t attendance and we should be worried? Or are you just trolling and making that up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 Anyone know the official figure for season ticket sales? I'm thinking that this might be the main issue. I thought they were a bit overpriced, and that the rise of renewal prices wasn't very fair. Another thing I was looking at coming back from the Norwich game is the roulette in k.o. times that we have experienced this year, this could possibly put off some ST holders and who knows how many occasional match ticket buyers. If I'm not mistaken, in 8 (?) home games, we've had the traditional Saturday 15h, Sunday 16h, Sunday lunchtime, Wednesday night, Sunday 15h...and we're yet to have late Saturday, Monday night and Saturday brunch time (a killer for all of us nightowls)! In the FL, it was fairly standard: Saturday at 15h or Tuesday at 19h45. Yes, two or three times in 23 games you could get a Sunday lunchtime or a late Saturday, maybe a midweek fixture on another day than Tuesday, but it hardly changed that much. The matchday cost has also risen too and our city has not been watching the crisis pass by... Guess some people can't be fussed to build their free time around SFC's matches. It's not like our attendances have been bad and to be fair the fact that we only broke the attendance record on the promotion game last year says a lot about the size of our regular support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 Kraken i'd just like to know why your so concerned about attendances as i see you on here consistantely concerned with them...i'm curious to know .....(i'm not joking , i'm being serious ) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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