Greenridge Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 Simon Peach @SimonPeach Ramirez's availability for #SaintsFC at weekend not so clear. Seems he has gone back to Uruguay. Adkins will explain absence on Thursday. That doesn't sound so good for the weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 Gaston is clearly class, but he was never going to just be able to come here and take the league by storm....not many foreigners are able to do that, especially ones who are 21! I think we just have to appreciate how good he is. Yes he's going to give the ball away a bit because he tries to play those passes which are likely to get cut out. What would you rather, he passed it backwards and got a 100% completion rate, or an 85% completion rate and actually tries to play cutting through balls. I know what I'd rather. Pretty much how to see Gaston, would much rather have him going forward and really pressing other teams (scaring them) than someone like Joe Allan with a much higher pass completion rate but doing nothing of note. Plus £12m for a 21 year old is a lot, but at the same time represents our faith in him/the faith that we can make money on him. Much better buy than say £16m on Joe Allan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 not overly fussed anyway, if we can get our money back there may be players available more suited to our immediate needs. Exactly. He looks a good player but he's hardly set the world on fire so far. I'd rather have seen the £12m we spent on him used to buy 2 or 3 players. Particularly defenders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 Any truth behind the fiorentina interest ? There is no way he'd go in Jan right? :s I read the interview in the paper concerned...he was "baited" by a journo ...and asked if he'd like to play for Fiorentina? His obvious reply related to .....playing in a top Italian side.......I saw nothing implied that he ws unhappy at SFC .or wanted to move . The journo got his headline, and it has become a " non-story " which may dog the tabloids every week in the future whenever things go quiet elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 Well I think he's brilliant. And lifts the standard of passing of those around him. So there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 That doesn't sound so good for the weekend Always had my concerns when we signed him. I remember saying we'd be lucky to get 1/2 a season out of him. When he picked up an injury I thought we'd be lucky to see him again, fortunately I was proved wrong. However, if this is true then it doesn't inspire confidence. :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 According to this then his agent has spoken to Fiorentina http://www.transfermarketweb.com/?action=read&idsel=112298 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 if ramierz does not play...we will have the lambert and j-rod show AGAIN...which has not worked at all what so ever so far We should still have enough to beat Reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 No, part of the reason they let Boruc go was because they couldn't afford to renew his contract. Italian football, like the country at large, is in financial turmoil. If you look at the league as a whole there are few big transfers happening. The exception to this is transfers out, like the £50million-odd AC Milan got for Zlatan & Thiago in the summer. Fiorentina have been skint for ages, they did a Rangers only a few years back. No way in hell will this happen. He may leave, but it certainly will not be to Fiorentina for £20m. I think you'll find that Fiorentina are the most profitable club in Italy with the fifth biggest income. Well, they were last year anyway. If there is one club in Italy that could potentially get him it's them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 We should still have enough to beat Reading. you would think...but it will be a huge disappointment if NA drops lambert in the "hole"......and keeps them both on.. looking forward to the game...we have to win it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 you would think...but it will be a huge disappointment if NA drops lambert in the "hole"......and keeps them both on.. looking forward to the game...we have to win it What exactly would you do if Ramirez isn't able to play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 Simon Peach @SimonPeach I am led to believe Ramirez is very happy at #SaintsFC despite quotes to the contrary in the Italian media. Apparently journo duped him. Simon Peach @SimonPeach Ramirez's availability for #SaintsFC at weekend not so clear. Seems he has gone back to Uruguay. Adkins will explain absence on Thursday. If Gaston doesn't play on Saturday, it will be my fault based on games I've been to: 1) Man Utd - bought these; Ramirez not signed in time to play but does pop out to give us a wave; 2) Fulham - injured before the game 3) Spurs - still injured Got tickets for the game on Saturday and now he might be in Uruguay instead. Obviously he's far more important to our survival bid than me watching the game so I'll send back my tickets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 What exactly would you do if Ramirez isn't able to play? play lallana in the hole...that system works very well....or even bring davis back in as an advanced forward midfielder... but, taking your top scorer and moving him away from the goal is daft...and has not worked at all so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 Any truth behind the fiorentina interest ? There is no way he'd go in Jan right? :s Haven't read the rest of the thread, but no club in Italy is in any kind of decent financial situation at the moment and I doubt he'd leave to go anywhere which wasn't La Liga or a top 6 Prem club anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 Wow, you have just runied the possibilty of this getting to 10 pages of nonsense with that little bit of info Not if people start posting pics of Uruguayan birds he hasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 if we go down..we will almost make a loss on gaston too..no matter what I reckon that's worth a sticky... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 Must be something pretty major for him to need to dash back to Uruguay, potentially missing a critical game. I wonder if the club have let him head home with the proviso he's back in good time to be available for Saturday given its very much a 6 pointer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 Top tip: for two day old news search for subject matter in Saintsweb forum first... HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 This is sad news both for Saints and for Ramirez. For the club to grant him leave of absence before such a crucial game I can only assume the ‘personal reasons’ must be fairly serious so let’s hope things turn out okay for him. Even if he’s back for the match, having one of your key players sat on long haul flights and missing training is no good for anyone, except perhaps the opposition. I suppose it’s one of the drawbacks of signing continental players. If Ramirez is absent on Saturday, I’d like to see Davis given a chance to play as an attacking midfielder in front of Spiderman and Cork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 He will return to Uruguay,go on strike refusing to return to play for Southampton. Citing being homesick. A la Tevez anyone ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 Has this got parallels with Delgado? Was the birthday thread on TSW insufficient & Gaston was expecting more cards? Do we never learn??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/121203/southampton-facing-fight-keep-ramirez-186694? I know it's talksport tabloid ******** . Having read that article, and noting Ramirez's praise of the way Fiorentina are playing at the moment, perhaps its time to speculate on their young Italian manager Vincenzo Montella, being our next boss. Just as worthwhile speculation as selling Gaston to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsAhoy Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 With all the 'will he sign/wont he sign' crap in the Italian (and English) press before he signed for us, I tend to ignore media reports. Would be gutted if he left though, he oozes class. We haven't had a player of his calibre since Tiss imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 For **** sake people have some respect, he's returned home for what as I understand, is a family bereavement. Hard to understand I know but to most people life extends beyond football. Hopefully Gaston will do what he has gone to do in Uruguay and return in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 For **** sake people have some respect, he's returned home for what as I understand, is a family bereavement. Hard to understand I know but to most people life extends beyond football. Hopefully Gaston will do what he has gone to do in Uruguay and return in the near future. who is showing him a lack of respect..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsAhoy Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 For **** sake people have some respect, he's returned home for what as I understand, is a family bereavement. Hard to understand I know but to most people life extends beyond football. Hopefully Gaston will do what he has gone to do in Uruguay and return in the near future. No one has disrespected the man. Get back on your high horse and ride out of town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 if ramierz does not play...we will have the lambert and j-rod show AGAIN...which has not worked at all what so ever so far How do you know this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 (edited) Not if people start posting pics of Uruguayan birds he hasn't. Volia, uruguayan birds look like they are from portsmouth where as I always thought they looked like this and hence it would explain his mid-week trip back for R&R Edited 4 December, 2012 by Convict Colony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 Having read that article, and noting Ramirez's praise of the way Fiorentina are playing at the moment, perhaps its time to speculate on their young Italian manager Vincenzo Montella, being our next boss. Just as worthwhile speculation as selling Gaston to them. He will be Roma manager next season, so no need to concern yourself with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 i personally feel we are going to lose loads on Ramirez as he wasn't worth what we paid in the first place, some idiot on here claimed we would at least double are money on him. He's obviously got talent but for me he is just a trickster that flatters to deceive goes over way to easily does to much with it loses possession and nowhere near any end product I've heard it all now. If you cannot see how quality a player Ramirez is then you have no place watching football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 How do you know this? navy Chefs from Plymouth are ITK. FACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 I've heard it all now. If you cannot see how quality a player Ramirez is then you have no place watching football. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints boy in Leeds Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 cant believe some of thes comments, i think he is definately worth the 12million hes got class written all over him and for a number 10 playmaker also has the pace and tricks to beat players. gaston and lallana both look top 6 premier league material in my eyes, if anybody is a waste of money its rodriguez hes had numerous chances and never brings anything to the team,mayukas done more in his 2 sub appearences then j rods done all season This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints boy in Leeds Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 This. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityRanger Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 I've heard it all now. If you cannot see how quality a player Ramirez is then you have no place watching football. He's gonna get better and better, the quality is there for most to see. People should give him some time to settle in English football, it took Bergkamp a while but he wasn't a bad player in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 Any update on whether young Gaston will be back for the weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 navy Chefs from Plymouth are ITK. FACT Makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 Any update on whether young Gaston will be back for the weekend? ESSRUU! Letsbeavenue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 I've heard it all now. If you cannot see how quality a player Ramirez is then you have no place watching football. Absolutely. The guy is 21 years old, moving to a new country, in one of the hardest leagues to adapt to in the world, and he has done bloody well so far. Would we get our money back if we were to sell him in the summer? Probably not. Would we get our money back if we were to sell him in 2-3 years? I definitely think so, and much more. To reiterate, he's 21 years old. He's not even close to being in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 Absolutely. The guy is 21 years old, moving to a new country, in one of the hardest leagues to adapt to in the world, and he has done bloody well so far. Would we get our money back if we were to sell him in the summer? Probably not. Would we get our money back if we were to sell him in 2-3 years? I definitely think so, and much more. To reiterate, he's 21 years old. He's not even close to being in his prime. 22 actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 22 actually Well I've done it now. If he reads that he'll probably pull a Delgado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 Here you go Rule 1 He is very happy here just about to move out of his flat and into a new house with his bird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 Here you go Rule 1 He is very happy here just about to move out of his flat and into a new house with his bird sorry that was rubbish - tried to add a pic of him at a BBQ but never worked - you'll just have to imagine it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 ESSRUU! Letsbeavenue! What you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 sorry that was rubbish - tried to add a pic of him at a BBQ but never worked - you'll just have to imagine it What's Carsten Jancker doing there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 sorry that was rubbish - tried to add a pic of him at a BBQ but never worked - you'll just have to imagine it And will I have to imagine watching him play on Saturday or will he be there in person, do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc Posted 5 December, 2012 Share Posted 5 December, 2012 And will I have to imagine watching him play on Saturday or will he be there in person' date=' do you know? [/quote'] I'm not sure - he not around to ask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 6 December, 2012 Share Posted 6 December, 2012 Simon Peach @SimonPeach I am hearing Gaston Ramirez will be involved for #SaintsFC this weekend. Awaiting confirmation from Adkins in press conf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 6 December, 2012 Share Posted 6 December, 2012 I thought the press conference usually starts at 2? No updates as of yet...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 6 December, 2012 Share Posted 6 December, 2012 Southampton FC @officialsaints Nigel Adkins on transfer speculation: "If [our] players are linked with other clubs, it's a sign they're doing well for us." #saintsfc Expand 1m BBC Solent Sport BBC Solent Sport @solentsport Adkins also rubbished internet talk of Ramirez being unhappy at #Saintsfc Expand 2m BBC Solent Sport BBC Solent Sport @solentsport Nigel Adkins says he'll assess Gaston Ramirez's fitness tomorrow, when he returns to training after trip to Uruguay #saintsfc Expand Reply Retweet Favorite More Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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