Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 Are we overrating his ability and potential the way that we did with Bart? Bart had a couple of runs of good games and then it all went rather sour. Are we happier to overlook his errors because he is young and we feel he has potential? It is always nice to have a good, young keeper, but do we exaggerate this due to it being an area we need to strengthen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 Not being funny but there are umpteen threads where our goalkeeping frailities are being discussed. Old folk like me can't keep up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 And we need another thread because..... (I'll comment on the original) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 It gets exaggerated purely because he plays for Saints. A good young keeper with potential will make the odd mistake, but look solid and good the rest of the time. There will be positional errors and the odd misjudgement. With gazza he looks like an accident waiting to happen all the time. Apart from one save against Newcastle the only stuff he's managed to keep out the net is routine stuff, and even then he's either let that in, or juggled it. Bart was the same and I now look forward to monthly threads calling for Gazza to replace XYZ, until he leaves on a free at the end of his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 29 November, 2012 Author Share Posted 29 November, 2012 Perhaps it can be merged by the mods then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 Not being funny but there are umpteen threads where our goalkeeping frailities are being discussed. Old folk like me can't keep up I say put Campbell Forsyth or Cinders back between the sticks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 Terry Genough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 Terry Genough? Gennoe noticed him on TV the other day, goalkeeping coach at Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocco boxo Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 Gennoe noticed him on TV the other day, goalkeeping coach at Villa Bet he's taught Shay Given a thing or two! Who is our goalkeeping coach now? Can see Boruc playing at Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 Bet he's taught Shay Given a thing or two! Who is our goalkeeping coach now? Can see Boruc playing at Liverpool. Jim Stannard ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 Are we overrating his ability and potential the way that we did with Bart? Bart had a couple of runs of good games and then it all went rather sour. Are we happier to overlook his errors because he is young and we feel he has potential? It is always nice to have a good, young keeper, but do we exaggerate this due to it being an area we need to strengthen? Are we coaching the ability out of another promising keeper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 Can see Boruc playing at Liverpool. I can't, don't think Nigel wanted him here and doubt that he'll play for us again. Expect Gazza to be in goal again at Anfield or if he's blotted his copybook one time too many for the immediate future then Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 1 December, 2012 Share Posted 1 December, 2012 (edited) Are we overrating his ability and potential the way that we did with Bart? Bart had a couple of runs of good games and then it all went rather sour. Are we happier to overlook his errors because he is young and we feel he has potential? It is always nice to have a good, young keeper, but do we exaggerate this due to it being an area we need to strengthen? I'm going to agree with you on this one, Dibden. His positioning is dubious to say the least, and his kick-outs are a catastrophe. He needs games ....but at a level that wan't cost US points. His suicidal kick-out to Yoshida in the Swansea game gave Dyer a perfect chance which he took well, but we LOST 2 points because of it. The error in the Norwich game was a schoolboy howler (rule 1: get your body behind the ball)..and cost us another 2 piints! YES, I know ...he made a great save in the Newcastle game but TBH I don't think he knew much about it, and one good save (like Alan Blayney's v. Shearer ) doesn't necessarily make him a class goalie. We need an experienced keeper ....playing behind a solid defence .before experimenting with a 20 year old keeper. I didn't rate Bart (who seemed so slow in moving) but I'm glad to see he's found his level at Notts County. I haven't seen Butland play - since the Team GB games - but Brum don't look so strong and are also leaking goals. Edited 1 December, 2012 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 1 December, 2012 Share Posted 1 December, 2012 Butland has made a few howlers as well. Most young keeps will. Robinson linked with a few prem clubs in today's papers as can leave Blackburn for free in Jan. I would mind him as I would be able to call him robertson and annoy MLG. Not a bad keeper either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 1 December, 2012 Share Posted 1 December, 2012 YES, I know ...he made a great save in the Newcastle game but TBH I don't think he knew much about it, QUOTE] Sorry but you are way wide of the mark. Credit where credit is due, he had to change direction and get right down to the corner of his goal, not easy for a tall lad like him at the best of times. It was a worldy. Didn't think he did too badly today, looked a bit nervy early on and maybe could have come out for a cross or two, but made a couple of decent stops in the second half to keep us in with a shout. Couldn't do anything about the goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlavik Posted 2 December, 2012 Share Posted 2 December, 2012 Ok, I have bashed Gazza quite alot. But today he did just fine. As long as he get more commanding in the box and keeps improving, I guess why not go for him. He has the reflexes and the mobility needed as a goaltender so meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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