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May be a silly question, but are we sure Boruc is still at the club? Has anyone seen him in training clips etc? Listened to Adkins talking about the Liverpool match and keepers and mentioned Gazzaniga and Davis but no mention at all of Boruc - seemed strange to me?

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May be a silly question, but are we sure Boruc is still at the club? Has anyone seen him in training clips etc? Listened to Adkins talking about the Liverpool match and keepers and mentioned Gazzaniga and Davis but no mention at all of Boruc - seemed strange to me?

 

Adkins does mention Boruc in that interview. You can also see him in training videos and he was involved in a training session on the St Mary's pitch with De Ridder and other unused players after the Newcastle game on Sunday.

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Can't see anything but a total tonking for saints.

however.....football is a funny old game.

 

I was hoping we would win on Wednesday, so Saturday's result would not have bothered me too much. But thanks to stubborn Norwich not playing ball, now I have to really hope for a unlikely surprise result. I really can't see us getting anything either though :(

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They've got the terrible players that are Jordan Henderson and Stuart Downing in the side, the masively overrated Glen Johnson, a racist, buck tooth dwarf up front. It should be easy. Why are people saying we will lose?

 

More happy clappy nonsense from you!

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We are currently better than Liverpool in some departments. We need to exploit them.

 

I think there will be team changes tomorrow and I think we will give them a decent run for their money. Outcome will be more like vs Man City than Arsenal for me.

 

Looking forward to it.

 

WTF...?

 

keeper...liverpool win

Full backs...Liverpool win

CB....liverpool win

Midfield...liverpool win

attack...liverpool win

 

maybe ramirez would get in behind suarez......and no doubt they will look to see if they have missed out

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WTF...?

 

keeper...liverpool win

Full backs...Liverpool win

CB....liverpool win

Midfield...liverpool win

attack...liverpool win

 

maybe ramirez would get in behind suarez......and no doubt they will look to see if they have missed out

 

Are you seriously telling me you think Martin Skertel is better than Yoshida?

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Are you seriously telling me you think Martin Skertel is better than Yoshida?

its a toughie......reina or gazza..i guess gazza wins as he MAY be a decent prem keeper in 10 years

agger and skertl v fonte and yosh...hmmm

 

allen and gerrard v cork and morgan...yep

suarez v anyone...tough one

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Are you seriously telling me you think Martin Skertel is better than Yoshida?

 

I will, Martin Skrtel is a far better player than Yoshida, you can not compare to be honest.

But we have some players in key areas that can compete with theirs, Lallana and Ramirez and Lambert will be a handful I think tomorrow.

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WTF...?

 

keeper...liverpool win

Full backs...Liverpool win

CB....liverpool win

Midfield...liverpool win

attack...liverpool win

 

maybe ramirez would get in behind suarez......and no doubt they will look to see if they have missed out

 

Not maybe, Rodgers would snap your hand off if he was offered Ramirez to play in the hole. Also, Lallana would get in their side at the moment as would Lasmbert.

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Not maybe, Rodgers would snap your hand off if he was offered Ramirez to play in the hole. Also, Lallana would get in their side at the moment as would Lasmbert.

lambert and lallana instead of who...

 

they play 1 up front...lallana on the left....ramirez as the attcking midfielder..lambert for who exactly...certainly not suarez...sterling is always gong to be in there...very quick and exciting player

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I will, Martin Skrtel is a far better player than Yoshida, you can not compare to be honest.

But we have some players in key areas that can compete with theirs, Lallana and Ramirez and Lambert will be a handful I think tomorrow.

 

And Gazzaniga is better than Reina? Am I reading this right?

 

They are just trolling, it's a full time job.

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WTF...?

 

keeper...liverpool win

Full backs...Liverpool win

CB....liverpool win

Midfield...liverpool win

attack...liverpool win

 

maybe ramirez would get in behind suarez......and no doubt they will look to see if they have missed out

 

Reina is a hasbeen, just ask most liverpool fans.

Clyne and Shaw would not look out of place in liverpool's team.

Agger and Skrtel can be dodgy but on the whole pretty solid and better than our CB's.

Gerrard was wasteful in possession against spurs but will most likely have a blinder tomorrow.

Think Shelvey and Sahin will come in for henderson and downing.

Joe Allen is seriously overated.

i think our midfield of cork and morgan on top form will be a match for them.

Suarez is a wonderful player and is carrying them big style. will be a major threat tomorrow and the one player to keep quiet.

Quartet of lallana, puncheon, ramirez and lambert will give any team a decent challenge.

 

so in summary keep suarez quiet, stop sterling and Johnson having to much room down the flanks and dont give garrard time on the ball.

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Reina is a hasbeen, just ask most liverpool fans.

Clyne and Shaw would not look out of place in liverpool's team.

Agger and Skrtel can be dodgy but on the whole pretty solid and better than our CB's.

Gerrard was wasteful in possession against spurs but will most likely have a blinder tomorrow.

Think Shelvey and Sahin will come in for henderson and downing.

Joe Allen is seriously overated.

i think our midfield of cork and morgan on top form will be a match for them.

Suarez is a wonderful player and is carrying them big style. will be a major threat tomorrow and the one player to keep quiet.

Quartet of lallana, puncheon, ramirez and lambert will give any team a decent challenge.

 

so in summary keep suarez quiet, stop sterling and Johnson having to much room down the flanks and dont give garrard time on the ball.

reina is 100x better than the keepers we have..

clyne or englands right back....tough one

shaw...maybe (hard to say after 3 games)

their CBs...miles upon miles better than ours

allen and gerrard in the middle..yep. no contest

suarez pishes over anything we have...simple as that

 

we can get a point up there..but it will need a keeper display that ours in not capable off...we will need to score 2 or 3 just to get a point IMO...which will not happen...never really did bar the odd upset when we had a much better team before

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Reina is a hasbeen, just ask most liverpool fans.

Clyne and Shaw would not look out of place in liverpool's team.

Agger and Skrtel can be dodgy but on the whole pretty solid and better than our CB's.

Gerrard was wasteful in possession against spurs but will most likely have a blinder tomorrow.

Think Shelvey and Sahin will come in for henderson and downing.

Joe Allen is seriously overated.

i think our midfield of cork and morgan on top form will be a match for them.

Suarez is a wonderful player and is carrying them big style. will be a major threat tomorrow and the one player to keep quiet.

Quartet of lallana, puncheon, ramirez and lambert will give any team a decent challenge.

 

so in summary keep suarez quiet, stop sterling and Johnson having to much room down the flanks and dont give garrard time on the ball.

 

This has of course been one of our strengths this season.

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I'm going to be interested in how Shaw and Clyne deal with Sterling and Enrique. Enrique has looked very good recently IMO. Our fullbacks will have their hands full with these two, but at least they have the pace to deal with it (compared to Fox/Richardson). I'm worried about Fonte and Yoshida though, I don't think they are a very good matchup for Liverpool's attack.

 

Fortunately our midfield woes seem to have improved with the return of the Cork/Morgan partnership, we will need them to win us the midfield. If we can keep some decent possession, I reckon our attacking 4 could cause Liverpool some problems. Plus Liverpool's fullbacks really like to push forward, if Puncheon/Lallana get the right ball they could try to exploit that.

 

What I'm expecting: 3-1 Liverpool

What I'm hoping for: 3-2 Saints

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What about the other 3 players?

what other 3 players....end of the day, liverpool have pretty much a better team man for man..they ait higher in the league, were very unlucky the other night at spurs and have been on a longer unbeaten run....they have a better defence and one of the best players in the league who is on fire....

 

not really hard to accept that they are quite a bit better than us on paper and should many of them perform, they will comfortably beat us, with our clown in goal, shyte defence....we will have to score at least 2 to salvage a point...our away record is dire....

 

its not being negative, it is a fact...we dont really travel well up north in the prem..or travel well full stop

 

I cant see us getting anything but a comfortable beating..which is the way it is.....pick up again for the reading game which is so very important

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Well the first one yes, he is not as good as he has been but he is still and awful lot better than Gazzaniga.

Clyne would not get in over Johnson.

Agger and Skrtyl have played well this season along with Carragher.

Liverpool dont really have an established left back so you can not compare.

Sorry I am laughing now, I admire the optimism but please.

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lambert and lallana instead of who...

 

they play 1 up front...lallana on the left....ramirez as the attcking midfielder..lambert for who exactly...certainly not suarez...sterling is always gong to be in there...very quick and exciting player

 

 

Well seeing as Rodgers wants a striker and Liverpool only have one, I'm sure they would take Lambert if they had the opportunity to do so. I don't know how they would change their system tbh. Of course Liverpool are a better side, but we have some players of at least equal ability to some of theirs.

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what other 3 players....end of the day, liverpool have pretty much a better team man for man..they ait higher in the league, were very unlucky the other night at spurs and have been on a longer unbeaten run....they have a better defence and one of the best players in the league who is on fire....

 

not really hard to accept that they are quite a bit better than us on paper and should many of them perform, they will comfortably beat us, with our clown in goal, shyte defence....we will have to score at least 2 to salvage a point...our away record is dire....

 

its not being negative, it is a fact...we dont really travel well up north in the prem..or travel well full stop

 

I cant see us getting anything but a comfortable beating..which is the way it is.....pick up again for the reading game which is so very important

 

Just so I am clear; I get the impression you dont rate Gazziniga?

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Well seeing as Rodgers wants a striker and Liverpool only have one, I'm sure they would take Lambert if they had the opportunity to do so. I don't know how they would change their system tbh. Of course Liverpool are a better side, but we have some players of at least equal ability to some of theirs.

he wants another striker to be able to rest suarez......

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Ooops, looks like you took my post for an invitation to play top trumps.

 

I wasn't comparing like for like players: "We are currently better than Liverpool in some departments. We need to exploit them.". There will be battles over the pitch tomorrow and I think we will some of them.

 

For example, I think our attacking UNIT will be a match for them. I think they are suscpetible to teams like us who can play good football and use craft and guile to create opportunities.

 

I think Morgan and Cork have looked excellent together this season and will stand their own against the Liverpool midfield.

 

Our entire back four will struggle against Suarez, who will exploit our weaknesses with his fantastic movement. Holes will be created for the likes of Sterling. They will look to exploit the inside left channel between Yoshi and Shaw.

 

We will be a threat from corners and other set-pieces. Lambert, Lallana and Gaston are looking more and more dangerous in dead-ball situations.

 

Both teams are incredibly fit.

 

Liverpool have the ability to counter-attack quick. We will pile me forward in attacks tomorrow and NA needs to look at this.

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Stick with the same team. Gazza might make mistakes at times, but he makes some great saves and its clear he has talent. The defence has impressed me with Shaw's defending and the Fonte/Yoshida and Clyne/Puncheon partnerships.

 

Think we could get something out of this game, a draw would be very nice, but we need to stop Suarez (CHEAT) and Gerrard (less of a CHEAT but still a CHEAT)

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Stick with the same team. Gazza might make mistakes at times, but he makes some great saves and its clear he has talent. The defence has impressed me with Shaw's defending and the Fonte/Yoshida and Clyne/Puncheon partnerships.

 

Think we could get something out of this game, a draw would be very nice, but we need to stop Suarez (CHEAT) and Gerrard (less of a CHEAT but still a CHEAT)

 

Why is Gerrard a cheat?

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Read this thread, then had a quick look at their forums, quite a lot of Liverpool fans are worried that we'll go there and beat them!

 

Here are a few:

 

"Can't say I'm looking forward to this game, just want to get to 5pm on Saturday and have 3 points in the bag and breath a massive sigh of relief because now is not the time to face a banana skin.

 

Can't even say I'm confident because I can see none of the middle 3 changing so we'll be relying on Suarez again. Hopefully Wisdom is fit again, therefore pushing Downing out of the side otherwise expect them to double up on the right hand side time and again and while they're 3 off the bottom they haven't been struggling scoring.

 

It says everything that we come to this game and I'm even contemplating anything other than an easy win, no confidence at all in our midfield."

 

"They're playing some really good football from what i've seen, but we really should win."

 

"Well i'm f**king terrified to be honest. They play some decent flowing attacking footy, and where we are at the moment, I'm losing confidence in our ability to change from the obviously predictable. If they sit back and counter, I fear we won't be able to break them down. I was believing we could be on the way up the table, but after the last two games, I think we are looking more like a mid table side that ever before. We play some decent stuff, but so do Norwich, Swansea, West Ham, Newcastle, and Fulham at times. And when your rivals ( traditionally) don't even bother to check on our results because we'er not seen as a threat to them anymore, that's worrying. I hope Lucas gets some minutes but don't expect much from him at the mo, other than that i wish for a clean sheet, pray for a win, and hope for nothing less than a draw.

Totally dissilusioned at present, and don't see too much light while we keep playing Henderson and Downing together. We can't aford to carry two players, especially the way Gerrard is performing at the moment, so like to see the team before I predict. "

 

"Southampton at home shouldn't worry me in the slightest but right now it does."

 

"Well beware of the saints they have scoring power which we lack, brendan time to give stevie a rest also downing and henderson.But think there defence is suspect so if we score first could be a lot of goals,like to see other players get on the scoresheet other than saurez."

 

"I don't want to see allen or gerrard in this game. Play sahin there with lucas and shelvey infront of them." BTW a lot of Liverpool fans critical of Gerrard or saying rest him.

 

" I don't think they are a bad team. They played some good passing games this season. Remember the game against city."

 

...and so it goes on.

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Read this thread, then had a quick look at their forums, quite a lot of Liverpool fans are worried that we'll go there and beat them!

 

http://www.lfcreds.com/reds/index.php/topic,44014.0.html

 

"Can't say I'm looking forward to this game"

"It says everything that we come to this game and I'm even contemplating anything other than an easy win, no confidence at all in our midfield"

"Well i'm f**king terrified to be honest. They play some decent flowing attacking footy, and where we are at the moment, I'm losing confidence in our ability to change from the obviously predictable. If they sit back and counter, I fear we won't be able to break them down."

"Southampton at home shouldn't worry me in the slightest but right now it does."

"beware of the saints they have scoring power which we lack"

 

"I am going for a draw, 0-0"

"Who plays centre midfield at the moment is a the big question because none of them are in form but Southampton knock it around well so whoever plays there will need to boss and control the game."

"I don't think they are a bad team. They played some good passing games this season. Remember the game against city"

"I think Southampton will prove no pushovers"

"the very scary thing is Southampton will be coming to Anfield knowing we have won just 2 league games this season was it Wigan and Reading?.So they are not coming here to try to keep the score down."

 

Edit : damn you Junior Mullet! ;)

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Here are a few:

 

"Can't say I'm looking forward to this game, just want to get to 5pm on Saturday and have 3 points in the bag and breath a massive sigh of relief because now is not the time to face a banana skin.

 

Can't even say I'm confident because I can see none of the middle 3 changing so we'll be relying on Suarez again. Hopefully Wisdom is fit again, therefore pushing Downing out of the side otherwise expect them to double up on the right hand side time and again and while they're 3 off the bottom they haven't been struggling scoring.

 

It says everything that we come to this game and I'm even contemplating anything other than an easy win, no confidence at all in our midfield."

 

"They're playing some really good football from what i've seen, but we really should win."

 

"Well i'm f**king terrified to be honest. They play some decent flowing attacking footy, and where we are at the moment, I'm losing confidence in our ability to change from the obviously predictable. If they sit back and counter, I fear we won't be able to break them down. I was believing we could be on the way up the table, but after the last two games, I think we are looking more like a mid table side that ever before. We play some decent stuff, but so do Norwich, Swansea, West Ham, Newcastle, and Fulham at times. And when your rivals ( traditionally) don't even bother to check on our results because we'er not seen as a threat to them anymore, that's worrying. I hope Lucas gets some minutes but don't expect much from him at the mo, other than that i wish for a clean sheet, pray for a win, and hope for nothing less than a draw.

Totally dissilusioned at present, and don't see too much light while we keep playing Henderson and Downing together. We can't aford to carry two players, especially the way Gerrard is performing at the moment, so like to see the team before I predict. "

 

"Southampton at home shouldn't worry me in the slightest but right now it does."

 

"Well beware of the saints they have scoring power which we lack, brendan time to give stevie a rest also downing and henderson.But think there defence is suspect so if we score first could be a lot of goals,like to see other players get on the scoresheet other than saurez."

 

"I don't want to see allen or gerrard in this game. Play sahin there with lucas and shelvey infront of them." BTW a lot of Liverpool fans critical of Gerrard or saying rest him.

 

" I don't think they are a bad team. They played some good passing games this season. Remember the game against city."

 

...and so it goes on.

 

Nice to have compliments from other teams.

 

By the way, should this be another game that should be written off as 0 points? Or is this one where we feel we should get a result?

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Nice to have compliments from other teams.

 

By the way, should this be another game that should be written off as 0 points? Or is this one where we feel we should get a result?

 

I'm gonna be more disappointed if we don't get a draw at Anfield than I was when we didn't beat Norwich at St.Marys. If you get my drift....

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It's going to be tough. They should have won at Spurs, which shows they are not as and a side as their league position indicates. On any given day Suarez can destroy you. Let's hope it's not tomorrow. The rest of their side is solid, but unspectacular. We'll need to play a damn sight better than we did against Everton if we are to get anything out of this game. I won't be putting money on us doing so, but there is no reason why we can't get something.

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WTF...?

 

keeper...liverpool win

Full backs...Liverpool win

CB....liverpool win

Midfield...liverpool win

attack...liverpool win

 

maybe ramirez would get in behind suarez......and no doubt they will look to see if they have missed out

 

Fullbacks is debatable seeing as they are playing Stewart Downing there at the moment, and I don't think Johnson is much better than Clyne.

 

Midfield wise they obviously have Gerrard, aside from that though are Sterling, Allen, Henderson, some random guy on the right wing? miles better than Morgan, Cork, Lallana, Puncheon? Probably not.

 

Take Suarez away and the quality of their team severley drops.

 

The likes of Reina and Gerrard aren't the players they used to be, and the rest are good but not great hence their league position. City, Utd, Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea, Everton all have better squads than Liverpool and WBA are a better team so the talk of Liverpool challenging top 4 was kind silly. People are maybe overestimating them because it;s Liverpool but in reality they are at best a top 8 side, we will have a lot more tougher away trips than Anfield.

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Read this thread, then had a quick look at their forums, quite a lot of Liverpool fans are worried that we'll go there and beat them!

 

Love reading their forums, most of their fans still think they are a footballing powerhouse and should be top 4. Truth is, while well supported the team isnt as strong as they thing as they have players like Henderson, Downing and Shelvey in their first 11 regularly.

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