Saint-Armstrong Posted 28 November, 2012 Share Posted 28 November, 2012 THE SOUTHAMPTON GOALKEEPING CRISIS FLOWCHART Seriously though, what do we do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 28 November, 2012 Share Posted 28 November, 2012 Very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 28 November, 2012 Share Posted 28 November, 2012 About right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 28 November, 2012 Share Posted 28 November, 2012 Very apt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 November, 2012 Share Posted 28 November, 2012 Seriously though, what do we do? Cody Cropper likes an occasional howler too. I reckon Bouc will get fit and be fine for the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 28 November, 2012 Share Posted 28 November, 2012 Excellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 28 November, 2012 Share Posted 28 November, 2012 I reckon Bouc will get fit and be fine for the rest of the season. I reckon this is what is happening, we are working on his fitness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAS Posted 28 November, 2012 Share Posted 28 November, 2012 Maybe needs a few dotted lines and question marks pointing to a window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 28 November, 2012 Share Posted 28 November, 2012 Cody Cropper likes an occasional howler too. I reckon Bouc will get fit and be fine for the rest of the season. I reckon Boluc is out of favour due to his fitness and attitude. It will come as no surprise if we don't see him again. Whatever happens, a new GK is called for in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 November, 2012 Share Posted 28 November, 2012 Superb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 November, 2012 Share Posted 28 November, 2012 Sad but true. (still funny though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 28 November, 2012 Share Posted 28 November, 2012 Quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 28 November, 2012 Share Posted 28 November, 2012 One thing is for sure, Adkins was seething about the keeping situation on Solent interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 28 November, 2012 Share Posted 28 November, 2012 You need to make so Davis never gets a look in again, as that seems to be the case..... Must have slept with Adkins wife! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 November, 2012 Share Posted 28 November, 2012 One thing is for sure, Adkins was seething about the keeping situation on Solent interview. I would like Father christmas to deliver Brad Friedel.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 28 November, 2012 Share Posted 28 November, 2012 I would like Father christmas to deliver Brad Friedel.... Dunno - but expect to see either Davis or Boruc in goal Saturday. Probably Boruc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonroader07 Posted 28 November, 2012 Share Posted 28 November, 2012 THE SOUTHAMPTON GOALKEEPING CRISIS FLOWCHART Seriously though, what do we do? Very good indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 Brad Friedel, Carlo Cudicini, Blokey Gomes or Hugo Lloris. Dont be greedy Spurs, we could do with any one of these come January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 Very good. It's hard to Forecast who will be picked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydie Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 Very good. It's hard to Forecast who will be picked. I see what you did there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 I think Adkins (a goalkeeper himself) should shoulder some of the blame for the mess we are in. For one reason or another we have three flawed keepers on our hands. Hardly ideal organisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WokingSaint Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 I think Adkins (a goalkeeper himself) should shoulder some of the blame for the mess we are in. For one reason or another we have three flawed keepers on our hands. Hardly ideal organisation. Have you seen that Bart has been outstanding for Notts County? (Just saying!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 THE SOUTHAMPTON GOALKEEPING CRISIS FLOWCHART Seriously though, what do we do? Get someone decent in ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 As I said on the match thread, NC needs to drop a significant number of millions on a keeper on 1st jan. Where niemi and shilts were worth 10pts a season to us, this current crop will cost us at least 10, if not more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 I dont think it is very fair calling Gazza a clown he is a young goalkeeper with potential he should be encouraged not insulted by people on here who make mistakes them selves every day. If there is blame to be attributed it should be to the club which has not invested in a reliable PL Goalkeeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 A fit and focused Boruc is what we need, it's a matter of whether that can be achieved before January... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaneNero Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 Adkins didn't seem impressed after the BBC interview. I think we'll see a change for Anfield, feel sorry for Gazz I do believe he can be the long term choice for us, just not this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 I still think Gazza is the least bad option at the moment but I have concerns. The defence seem to play better in fromt of him, but I suspect that is because there isn't a lot of confidence in him. It sems to me that we are more likely to hoof clear rather than a backpass with Gazzaniga in goal than we were with KD. Although his reactions are good, he has let in at least two goals (including last night) by not getting down and getting his body behind the ball, but instead parrying with too weak a touch which isn't enough to turn the shot away. Also, I've always assumed it is the keeper's responsibility at a free kick to decide on the size of the wall and line it up. Why did we only have three in the wall for Norwich's goal, and wht were they protecting an area just outside the goal? The invitation to shoot was obvious. And signing Boruc looks more and more like an ill-advised panic move. I wouldn't be surprised to see KD getting another chance before long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintalton Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 I struggle to understand why we are not picking Boruc, i have thought this since we dropped him. I rate Gazza but he is too young and prone to the odd howler. Its no good playing well one game then making mistakes the next. His mistake against swansea cost us the win, he was lucky enough to only conceed 1 vs QPR when he was shocking, and he cost us the win last night. No doubt he will come good but this is not the time to be messing around. We need the experience from Boruc for Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 Like Boruc? If Saints signed another keeper, however good, it'd only be one bad defeat or slight error before you morons were demanding yet another keeper. Not sure if you've noticed; but the fans don't make the choice to change the keeper. The manager does that. And, from what he said last night and what he's said before, Adkins looks like he thinks he's given Gazza enough chances and now needs to make a change. Whether we as fans think (or demand, to put it your way) that Gazza should stay or should go, it doesn't matter one iota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 Not sure if you've noticed; but the fans don't make the choice to change the keeper. The manager does that. And, from what he said last night and what he's said before, Adkins looks like he thinks he's given Gazza enough chances and now needs to make a change. Whether we as fans think (or demand, to put it your way) that Gazza should stay or should go, it doesn't matter one iota. I made this point on another thread. Who we want playing doesn't make one jot of difference, it's all down to Adkins. It's frustrating that good quality keepers were available this Summer but that none that we have are Premier League quality. The transfer committee desperately needs to look into this failing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Iron Gonads Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 Terrible mistake yesterday, but I'd still stick with Gazzaniga over Davis or Boruc. 1: Despite many on the forum stating Gazzaniga is a calamity waiting to happen/already cost us 4 points due to calamities, the defence still looks far more comfortable playing in front of him than in front of Davis, I include last season when we still looked suspect at the back. 2: I prefer Gazzaniga's attitude to what I've seen of Boruc's, who took it upon himself to sarcastically applaud 'fans' who had the temerity to boo a pretty poor 1st half performance against Spurs. Who the **** is Boruc to walk in here, conceed 4 at West Ham, follow it up with 2 in the first half and then disrespect some fans opinion of his ability. Looks a total tosser to me and I hope to never see him in a Saints shirt again. I'd prefer to stick with Gazzaniga until January and strengthen the position then, also letting Boruc **** off back to whence he came. Did Paul Jones get all this stick when he was making mistakes every other week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 As a bit of a process flow expert, I query the lack of clarity around the identical "YES" options following "does Gazzaniga make a howler ?" and the lack of possibility of migrating directly from Davis to Boruc, especially as Kelv has been on the bench for both. Other than that, mildly amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Chris Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 Terrible mistake yesterday, but I'd still stick with Gazzaniga over Davis or Boruc. 1: Despite many on the forum stating Gazzaniga is a calamity waiting to happen/already cost us 4 points due to calamities, the defence still looks far more comfortable playing in front of him than in front of Davis, I include last season when we still looked suspect at the back. 2: I prefer Gazzaniga's attitude to what I've seen of Boruc's, who took it upon himself to sarcastically applaud 'fans' who had the temerity to boo a pretty poor 1st half performance against Spurs. Who the **** is Boruc to walk in here, conceed 4 at West Ham, follow it up with 2 in the first half and then disrespect some fans opinion of his ability. Looks a total tosser to me and I hope to never see him in a Saints shirt again. I'd prefer to stick with Gazzaniga until January and strengthen the position then, also letting Boruc **** off back to whence he came. Did Paul Jones get all this stick when he was making mistakes every other week? Did Boruc have a thing with your missus or something? Of course he has a poor attitude, doesn't mean he's not a good goalkeeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 As a bit of a process flow expert, I query the lack of clarity around the identical "YES" options following "does Gazzaniga make a howler ?" and the lack of possibility of migrating directly from Davis to Boruc, especially as Kelv has been on the bench for both. Other than that, mildly amusing. I also believe an additional process narrative for clarification would help. He should also have used the diamond decision boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Iron Gonads Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 Did Boruc have a thing with your missus or something? Of course he has a poor attitude, doesn't mean he's not a good goalkeeper. He hasn't looked good in the 2 games I've seen him, and the poor attitude doesn't fit in with the 'together as one' Adkins mantra. The missus says I fullfil all her out of shape, slow reacting, wierdo needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 I also believe an additional process narrative for clarification would help. He should also have used the diamond decision boxes. Not sure about the narrative, agree re decision boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 I struggle to understand why we are not picking Boruc, i have thought this since we dropped him. I rate Gazza but he is too young and prone to the odd howler. Its no good playing well one game then making mistakes the next. His mistake against swansea cost us the win, he was lucky enough to only conceed 1 vs QPR when he was shocking, and he cost us the win last night. No doubt he will come good but this is not the time to be messing around. We need the experience from Boruc for Liverpool. Problem is if Boruc does another West Ham style gaff and then goes nuts and starts chucking stuff into the away end at Anfield you've make the situation a whole lot worse. Adkins is the only one who can make the call. He sees them in training, he know's their mental state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 THE SOUTHAMPTON GOALKEEPING CRISIS FLOWCHART Seriously though, what do we do? Dust your boots off Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 Tommy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Rabbit Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 (edited) Terrible mistake yesterday, but I'd still stick with Gazzaniga over Davis or Boruc. 1: Despite many on the forum stating Gazzaniga is a calamity waiting to happen/already cost us 4 points due to calamities, the defence still looks far more comfortable playing in front of him than in front of Davis, I include last season when we still looked suspect at the back. 2: I prefer Gazzaniga's attitude to what I've seen of Boruc's, who took it upon himself to sarcastically applaud 'fans' who had the temerity to boo a pretty poor 1st half performance against Spurs. Who the **** is Boruc to walk in here, conceed 4 at West Ham, follow it up with 2 in the first half and then disrespect some fans opinion of his ability. Looks a total tosser to me and I hope to never see him in a Saints shirt again. I'd prefer to stick with Gazzaniga until January and strengthen the position then, also letting Boruc **** off back to whence he came. Did Paul Jones get all this stick when he was making mistakes every other week? A goalkeeper in his prime years of his career age wise.... 46 time internationally capped, World Cup 2006 and Euro 2008 player, regular Champions League performer, 60 games over 2 seasons in Serie A ... quite clearly the most experienced big stage player in the squad. ....and a couple of moronic fans question his ability.....and probably don't even know who he is. SO he reacted accordingly. Edited 29 November, 2012 by B Rabbit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 Tommy? God, I had forgotten about him. We haven't got three sh!t keepers, we've got four!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redder freak Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 Nigel sounded irritable about the error. He just said, 'He's got to save it.' I reckon he'll give Boruc another chance to claim the No.1 slot, against Liverpool. Boruc has got the experience and he's the right age to be very good for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 What I want to know is, where is the petting zoo on the flow chart ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 The flowchart is technically incorrect because there are two paths saying "Yes" coming out of the "Does Gazzaniga make a howler?" bit. I appreciate that it would be factually incorrect if it had a "No" though maybe there could be a "Yes" followed by a coin-toss, with the outcome of that determining whether you go for Davies or Boruc? It did make me laugh though. About quite a painful topic. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
September Saint Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 Sad but true. (still funny though) We should stick with Gazza. He should eventually be our undisputed 1st choice keeper.........in the Championship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughba Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 To be fair to Gazza, I think we have seen glimpses of a world class keeper arising. But he needs to play really regularly to be world class in the end though. Stick with Gazza. Hopefully it will be worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 29 November, 2012 Share Posted 29 November, 2012 To be fair to Gazza, I think we have seen glimpses of a world class keeper arising. But he needs to play really regularly to be world class in the end though. Stick with Gazza. Hopefully it will be worthwhile. We have seen one save that could be described as world class. I've not seen anything else to suggest he's going to be a world class keeper, as much as i would like to believe that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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