The hindsight thread...

[Dig Dig]

Dibden, Michu has always been an attacking Midfielder/Striker.

 

I don't disagree that he would have been a good signing but to suggest that he'd have been the perfect replacement for Cork is a bit strange.

 

Personally, a combatative DM would have been a better signing over Davis.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Pace, work rate, tackling ability. He's looked a very much a languid attacker to me.

 

 

 

He is both, I would say his best position is in the hole, where gaston plays, but with his size he is very similar in tyle and play to Lambert hence why Swansea push him up there to hold up the ball and bring other people in, so AMC, second striker, no 10, falso number 9, whatever you want to call it it's a very attacking position with very little defensive responsibilites. Lambert has the ability to play in the hole as has doen for us.

 

Interesting...

 

http://www.whoscored.com/Players/38236

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Dibden, Michu has always been an attacking Midfielder/Striker.

 

I don't disagree that he would have been a good signing but to suggest that he'd have been the perfect replacement for Cork is a bit strange.

 

Personally, a combatative DM would have been a better signing over Davis.

 

No he hasn't always been an attacking midfielder. That is the point I am making. He has traditionally been a standard CM, good at winning the ball especially in the Spanish League due to his side. He used to dominate and drive the Rayo team from the centre of midfield.

 

I never said he was the perfect replacement for Cork, I said he would have done a better job there than Davis, as Davis played as a CM.

 

Agree with your last point, Biglia was my choice in the Summer but we signed Davis early in the Summer (which I advocate by the way). I also think that David may have had more of an impact than he has so far.

[ozzmeister]

Mine would be:

 

In:

Dawson

Left Back (apologies I cant give a decent example)

 

Out:

Mayuka

Boruc

 

Using hindsight I now believe Gazz is good enough until at least Jan so would substitute the wages on a left back. I've not seen much of Mayuka but based on Puncheon's form and back up in (dare I say it) Guly I think Dawson would have been a better bet. Would then give defense of Fonte and Dawson with Yoshida and Hooiv as back up.

 

And as a side this I think is quite a interesting thread, some of the comments seem unnecessary and along the lines of arguing for the sake of it. Calm down boys!

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Mine would be:

 

In:

Dawson

Left Back (apologies I cant give a decent example)

 

Out:

Mayuka

Boruc

 

Using hindsight I now believe Gazz is good enough until at least Jan so would substitute the wages on a left back. I've not seen much of Mayuka but based on Puncheon's form and back up in (dare I say it) Guly I think Dawson would have been a better bet. Would then give defense of Fonte and Dawson with Yoshida and Hooiv as back up.

 

And as a side this I think is quite a interesting thread, some of the comments seem unnecessary and along the lines of arguing for the sake of it. Calm down boys!

 

Left back is weak. I couldn't think of one I wanted in the Summer, and after watching him alongside better defenders at Man U I am very glad we didn't get Buttner.

[Dig Dig]

No he hasn't always been an attacking midfielder. That is the point I am making. He has traditionally been a standard CM, good at winning the ball especially in the Spanish League due to his side. He used to dominate and drive the Rayo team from the centre of midfield.

 

I never said he was the perfect replacement for Cork, I said he would have done a better job there than Davis, as Davis played as a CM.

 

Agree with your last point, Biglia was my choice in the Summer but we signed Davis early in the Summer (which I advocate by the way). I also think that David may have had more of an impact than he has so far.

 

The role Cork plays is very important for us and requires discipline, stamina and speed of thought. It's a deep lying role and Michu has always been more attack minded. Yes he has played CM but always in more advanced positions.

 

The problem was Davis early on was that he wen missing for long periods of games where he was asked to hold with Morgan. I can't see Michu offering a big improvement here (even from the stats you provided, he's only successfully tacked twice all season)!but you could argue he'd offer more value than Rodriguez (who I actually rate and believe will come good).

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

The role Cork plays is very important for us and requires discipline, stamina and speed of thought. It's a deep lying role and Michu has always been more attack minded. Yes he has played CM but always in more advanced positions.

 

The problem was Davis early on was that he wen missing for long periods of games where he was asked to hold with Morgan. I can't see Michu offering a big improvement here (even from the stats you provided, he's only successfully tacked twice all season)!but you could argue he'd offer more value than Rodriguez (who I actually rate and believe will come good).

 

I don't disagree with that. I think the main issue I had with Rodriguez when we bought him was that I saw him as one for the future, and £7m is a lot to spend on that area of the team when we needed to strengthen at CB, and strengthen with players for this season. I think by keeping Billy Sharp and then investing in a CB would have been a far better way to spend that money.

[Saint Garrett]

I don't disagree with that. I think the main issue I had with Rodriguez when we bought him was that I saw him as one for the future, and £7m is a lot to spend on that area of the team when we needed to strengthen at CB, and strengthen with players for this season. I think by keeping Billy Sharp and then investing in a CB would have been a far better way to spend that money.

 

Who said we couldnt have done both. J-Rod is clearly better than Sharp and we were clearly after a few different CB's but the deals never happened. I don't think by spending the £6m on J-Rod, it meant that then we couldn't afford to bring in defenders.

[Village Saint]

What the actual ****? Seriously, what is wrong with you lot? I'm just asking who people would have signed in the Summer with the benefit of hindsight. Why all the animosity?

 

Maybe its because every time your previous points have been shown to be so so wrong that you just keep on recycling in a different form the same old dull whinging. Just a thought.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Maybe its because every time your previous points have been shown to be so so wrong that you just keep on recycling in a different form the same old dull whinging. Just a thought.

 

What previous points?

 

Not starting Lambert was hurting us?

Playing J Rod out of position was a mistake?

Substituting Lambert, Lallana and Puncheon cost us the game against United?

That our defence had conceded more goals through 10 games than any other team in Premier League history and this was the responsibility of the Manager?

 

What is "so, so wrong" about these points?

[The9]

I wouldn't have signed Calum Davenport, Olivier Bernard or Federico Arias. Would have signed Marcus Bent (2 more points against Everton would have kept us up), Lionel Messi as a 9 year old years before, and Fabio Cannavaro.

 

Too late ?

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

I wouldn't have signed Calum Davenport, Olivier Bernard or Federico Arias. Would have signed Marcus Bent (2 more points against Everton would have kept us up), Lionel Messi as a 9 year old years before, and Fabio Cannavaro.

 

Too late ?

 

Nillson and Jacobsen as well...

[Saint Charlie]

Bit suprised so many are saying Mayuka out. Could understand if he looked crap in his few cameos so far but I have thought he looks a very exciting player, who with his age will only get better.

 

Seems a bit silly to 'bin off' a player who has probably played 40mins in the Prem so far.

 

To be you can only really say that Boruc seems an odd signing, and as others have said we could possibly have done better than S Davis but seeing as he was basically on a free and has a lot of experience it would have cost a lot more to get Biglia for example (at least 5+m) which might have meant we didn't get Gaston.

 

If we are paying 2m for Yoshida then suggesting Dawson who QPR nearly paid 9m for doesn't seem that realistic - surely the suggestions are pointless unless they are in the same price bracket?

 

Likewise Friedel - Spurs only signed Lloris on the last day of the window so they would never have sold us their no 1 keeper! Why would they?

 

For me a player like Claudio Yacob is better than Davis and was also a free.

 

Also in hindsight I wonder if the bedwetters are still annoyed that Reading's signings all seem way better than ours? I remember the threads saying we majorly missed out on Guthrie, Mariappa, MCCleary etc - laughable at the time, and even better now!

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Bit suprised so many are saying Mayuka out. Could understand if he looked crap in his few cameos so far but I have thought he looks a very exciting player, who with his age will only get better.

 

Seems a bit silly to 'bin off' a player who has probably played 40mins in the Prem so far.

 

To be you can only really say that Boruc seems an odd signing, and as others have said we could possibly have done better than S Davis but seeing as he was basically on a free and has a lot of experience it would have cost a lot more to get Biglia for example (at least 5+m) which might have meant we didn't get Gaston.

 

If we are paying 2m for Yoshida then suggesting Dawson who QPR nearly paid 9m for doesn't seem that realistic - surely the suggestions are pointless unless they are in the same price bracket?

 

Likewise Friedel - Spurs only signed Lloris on the last day of the window so they would never have sold us their no 1 keeper! Why would they?

 

For me a player like Claudio Yacob is better than Davis and was also a free.

 

Also in hindsight I wonder if the bedwetters are still annoyed that Reading's signings all seem way better than ours? I remember the threads saying we majorly missed out on Guthrie, Mariappa, MCCleary etc - laughable at the time, and even better now!

 

I can't remember people saying we majorly missed out on them?

[tajjuk]

Interesting...

 

http://www.whoscored.com/Players/38236

 

What's interesting?

 

This bit -

 

Name: Michu

Current Team: Swansea

Full Name: Miguel Pérez Cuesta

Shirt Number: 9

Positions:

Attacking Midfielder (Center)

Forward

 

or maybe this:-

 

Aerial Duels

Very Strong

Holding on to the ball

Strong

Finishing

Strong

Headed attempts

Strong

 

All the attributes I'm sure cork shares.

[Tokyo-Saint]

I wouldn't have signed Calum Davenport, Olivier Bernard or Federico Arias. Would have signed Marcus Bent (2 more points against Everton would have kept us up), Lionel Messi as a 9 year old years before, and Fabio Cannavaro.

 

Too late ?

 

We would only have released him for being too small. After several years at Bashley, he would have worked his way up the divisions again but would struggle to find a regular spot in any team as he would have been stuck out on the wing and accused of being lightweight and lazy.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

What's interesting?

 

This bit -

 

Name: Michu

Current Team: Swansea

Full Name: Miguel Pérez Cuesta

Shirt Number: 9

Positions:

Attacking Midfielder (Center)

Forward

 

or maybe this:-

 

Aerial Duels

Very Strong

Holding on to the ball

Strong

Finishing

Strong

Headed attempts

Strong

 

All the attributes I'm sure cork shares.

 

No, the fact that his highest ratings have come playing as a Central Midfielder, not as an attacking midfielder or a striker.

[shurlock]

More dubious, pointless sh*t from DPS.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

More dubious, pointless sh*t from DPS.

 

Another pointless post from shurlock, glad you're around to enrich the thread.

[The9]

Nillson and Jacobsen as well...

 

I'd add Nilsson instead of Arias (but I was mostly fixated on Redknapp's signings)... I think Jacobsson gets a bad rep, he was a vaguely competent defender and half decent defensive midfielder, he just wasn't Killer.

[The9]

We would only have released him for being too small. After several years at Bashley, he would have worked his way up the divisions again but would struggle to find a regular spot in any team as he would have been stuck out on the wing and accused of being lightweight and lazy.

 

We don't release anyone for being too small nowadays, in fact I think our mould has shrunk and we've only got blond wigs in the cloning room.

[Tokyo-Saint]

We don't release anyone for being too small nowadays, in fact I think our mould has shrunk and we've only got blond wigs in the cloning room.

 

Yeah but 9 years ago he would have been out the door before you could shout "get into 'im!".

[The9]

What previous points?

 

Not starting Lambert was hurting us?

Playing J Rod out of position was a mistake?

Substituting Lambert, Lallana and Puncheon cost us the game against United?

That our defence had conceded more goals through 10 games than any other team in Premier League history and this was the responsibility of the Manager?

 

What is "so, so wrong" about these points?

 

1) Not starting Lambert is the right choice in certain matches

2) Playing Rodriguez at left midfield was one of the reasons we were still in the game at Man City when Lambert came on

3) Substituting any 3 players would have made no difference with the other 8 knackered, and the 3 who came on were the best 3 on the bench.

4) Can't argue that the manager carries the can for everything, rightly or not.

[The9]

Yeah but 9 years ago he would have been out the door before you could shout "get into 'im!".

 

Oh I don't know, Dyer and Walcott are hardly giants and they were in the system then.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

1) Not starting Lambert is the right choice in certain matches

2) Playing Rodriguez at left midfield was one of the reasons we were still in the game at Man City when Lambert came on

3) Substituting any 3 players would have made no difference with the other 8 knackered, and the 3 who came on were the best 3 on the bench.

4) Can't argue that the manager carries the can for everything, rightly or not.

 

1) Where was it an advantage then in not starting Lambert? Against City we had no focal point. Against West Ham we controlled the first half but couldn't score, Rodriguez was ineffectual against Collins, who Lambert would have beasted.

2) No it wasn't. The reason was City's finishing, they could have been 5 up by then.

3) Eh? It was the wrong decision, and you know that. We needed to to keep the ball and hold the ball up to keep the pressure off ourselves. By doing that we invited United forward and thus conceded 2 late goals.

4)

[shurlock]

Another pointless post from shurlock, glad you're around to enrich the thread.

 

And I thought hindsight was about the wisdom and clarity of time, not a blurry, few odd games -or in Mayuka's case a handful of sub appearances. Who's to say that any of the 'outs' you mention will be failures or the 'ins' successes?

I don't need the hindsight of Saganowski's time at the club to know this simple fact and you're spouting more dps.

[Saint Garrett]

Although I disagree with some of that, I do believe we had to take off those 3 in the Man Utd match, although this arguement will go on and on. The 10 minutes before we made the changes we were totally ineffectual and the ball wasn't sticking up front. In hindsight, maybe we shouldnt have taken them off, but we could have quite easily gone up the other end and hit them on the break and gone 3-1 up. You can't really say we did any worse than we would have done if these players had stayed on. They were knackered.

[Tokyo-Saint]

Oh I don't know, Dyer and Walcott are hardly giants and they were in the system then.

 

It depends at what point in time we take it from I guess. Dyer, I'll give you and if he was in that generation then yes, he would be playing for spurs by now. Anything before that though and he would have been released ala Wade Elliot, Kevin Phillips, Dennis Wise. (please note before posting MLG, I never check my facts before posting therefore not everything I say is 100% spot on)

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

And I thought hindsight was about the wisdom and clarity of time, not a blurry, few odd games -or in Mayuka's case a handful of sub appearances. Who's to say that any of the 'outs' you mention will be failures or the 'ins' successes?

I don't need the hindsight of Saganowski's time at the club to know this simple fact and you're spouting more dps.

 

I never said they'd be failures? I just said if it was up to me, seeing what has happened so far this season I would have signed those 3 in front of them.

 

Why are you jumping to such conclusions? This is why so many threads go to waste on here, you read what you want to into peoples posts and then post aggressive messages to get the OP's back up. That's all that happens on here now. Such a shame compared to the Halcyon days of S4E.

[tajjuk]

No, the fact that his highest ratings have come playing as a Central Midfielder, not as an attacking midfielder or a striker.

 

Like I said if you look at the games when he is stated as playing 'MC' he plays with two holding players in Britton and Lee, I also don't think they have got Swanseas formation correct. They have it iinitially as 4-3-3, when it's more like what we play either a 4-4-1-1 or a 4-2-3-1, in all these games he has either played just behind the striker in the hole, or as the striker.

 

At no point has he played a DMC role or part of two MC's in 4-4-2 like Davis and Cork have been doing for us.

 

If you look at our games they think we palyed 4-2-3-1 against Newcastle and Qpr, a 4-1-4-1 against Spurs, Vill etc, and a 4-4-1-1 against Fulham. I'm pretty sure our shape has been the same in all those games.

[shurlock]

I never said they'd be failures? I just said if it was up to me, seeing what has happened so far this season I would have signed those 3 in front of them.

 

Why are you jumping to such conclusions? This is why so many threads go to waste on here, you read what you want to into peoples posts and then post aggressive messages to get the OP's back up. That's all that happens on here now. Such a shame compared to the Halcyon days of S4E.

 

By implication you are saying that the outs are failures relative to the ins. By your quick tendency to judge, I'm sure you decided that Saga was a world beater- and we all know how that turned out.

Strange world where a 1/3 of the season or less qualifies as hindsight.

[Dig Dig]

1) Where was it an advantage then in not starting Lambert? Against City we had no focal point. Against West Ham we controlled the first half but couldn't score, Rodriguez was ineffectual against Collins, who Lambert would have beasted.

2) No it wasn't. The reason was City's finishing, they could have been 5 up by then.

3) Eh? It was the wrong decision, and you know that. We needed to to keep the ball and hold the ball up to keep the pressure off ourselves. By doing that we invited United forward and thus conceded 2 late goals.

4)

 

The thing is DPS, this is YOUR opinion yet you seem to work in black and white, right snd wrong...

 

Playing Rodriguez over Lambert does have some logic an merit, it hasn't worked very well to date but we have to get to a point where we can play without Lambert.

 

There is no gaurentee Lambert would have scored at West Ham or beasted Collins, again just opinion and speculation.

 

The same applies to Utd, many think he shouldn't have done the subs but the claim that it was the reason we lost with certainty as you do is also wrong. Utd had a pen saved and RVP should have scored before as well. We should have been 3-2 down before a single sub was made.

 

On the basis of speculation you decided Adkins should go after a handful of games, ignoring certain mitigating factors along the way. That's why you've been getting so much stick. That and the fact you just wouldn't leave it alone.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Although I disagree with some of that, I do believe we had to take off those 3 in the Man Utd match, although this arguement will go on and on. The 10 minutes before we made the changes we were totally ineffectual and the ball wasn't sticking up front. In hindsight, maybe we shouldnt have taken them off, but we could have quite easily gone up the other end and hit them on the break and gone 3-1 up. You can't really say we did any worse than we would have done if these players had stayed on. They were knackered.

 

I agree, and it was just my opinion. Can you at least see why I'd come to that conclusion? It seems that this opinion is seen as mental, and that's what I can't fathom. The animosity and vitriol on this site because I hold this opinion (and others that if you list them surely don't seem that unreasonable) is mental.

[The Kraken]

Go on DPS; hang on in there lad. You stick to your guns, take no prisoners!!

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Like I said if you look at the games when he is stated as playing 'MC' he plays with two holding players in Britton and Lee, I also don't think they have got Swanseas formation correct. They have it iinitially as 4-3-3, when it's more like what we play either a 4-4-1-1 or a 4-2-3-1, in all these games he has either played just behind the striker in the hole, or as the striker.

 

At no point has he played a DMC role or part of two MC's in 4-4-2 like Davis and Cork have been doing for us.

 

If you look at our games they think we palyed 4-2-3-1 against Newcastle and Qpr, a 4-1-4-1 against Spurs, Vill etc, and a 4-4-1-1 against Fulham. I'm pretty sure our shape has been the same in all those games.

 

If they've got the formation wrong I assume they have probably got his positions wrong as well then.

 

I never said he has played DMC for Swansea. Never said that. Not once. I said he played that position earlier in his career at Celta and early on at Rayo. That was the point.

[tttdcs]

The levels of indignation and utter refusal to accept an alternative viewpoint are startlingly similar.

 

MLG has some competition, I feel.

 

They are all the same, there is only about a dozen people that actually post on this website and half of them are skates

[Dig Dig]

If they've got the formation wrong I assume they have probably got his positions wrong as well then.

 

I never said he has played DMC for Swansea. Never said that. Not once. I said he played that position earlier in his career at Celta and early on at Rayo. That was the point.

 

He didn't play DMC for either....he was a forward thinking CM.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

By implication you are saying that the outs are failures relative to the ins. By your quick tendency to judge, I'm sure you decided that Saga was a world beater- and we all know how that turned out.

Strange world where a 1/3 of the season or less qualifies as hindsight.

 

Yes, that is the implication, but what is wrong with that. Would you say that the 3 I have chosen have performed better or worse over the first third of the season.

 

Of course it qualifies as hindsight. Any decision that could have been made in the past.

 

Surely by my quick tendency to judge on the negative side of the things, I would have thought Saga was someone who was playing for a contract? Either way, conjecture about my opinion of a player who last played for us in 2009 (?) is ridiculous.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

The thing is DPS, this is YOUR opinion yet you seem to work in black and white, right snd wrong...

 

Playing Rodriguez over Lambert does have some logic an merit, it hasn't worked very well to date but we have to get to a point where we can play without Lambert.

 

There is no gaurentee Lambert would have scored at West Ham or beasted Collins, again just opinion and speculation.

 

The same applies to Utd, many think he shouldn't have done the subs but the claim that it was the reason we lost with certainty as you do is also wrong. Utd had a pen saved and RVP should have scored before as well. We should have been 3-2 down before a single sub was made.

 

On the basis of speculation you decided Adkins should go after a handful of games, ignoring certain mitigating factors along the way. That's why you've been getting so much stick. That and the fact you just wouldn't leave it alone.

 

Of course it's opinion, it's a forum. I have never said that these were facts. Everything on this forum is opinion. Do I need to put IMHO at the end of everything I write to make sure people don't confuse it with fact?

 

I thought he should have gone after 8 games as it seemed he wasn't learning from mistakes I thought he had made (IMHO). After 10 games he seemed to work out where the issues were, reset the team etc. Also, as I said at the time, if he wasn't picking the team (Cortese influence) then of course he should be given more time.

 

As I have also said previously, even on that 'Lambert blah...Adkins out' thread I say on the first page that I can see the logic, but that I don't agree with it. It smacked of Adkins trying to be too clever IMHO.

 

IMHO of course.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

He didn't play DMC for either....he was a forward thinking CM.

 

I said he has...he has, he has. I'm not saying that was his regular position for either, but he has played there succesfully. And he was a forward thinking mid, but not a full on behind the striker number 10. He was a central midfielder that tended to get forward more. IMHO

[Dig Dig]

Of course it's opinion, it's a forum. I have never said that these were facts. Everything on this forum is opinion. Do I need to put IMHO at the end of everything I write to make sure people don't confuse it with fact?

 

I thought he should have gone after 8 games as it seemed he wasn't learning from mistakes I thought he had made (IMHO). After 10 games he seemed to work out where the issues were, reset the team etc. Also, as I said at the time, if he wasn't picking the team (Cortese influence) then of course he should be given more time.

 

As I have also said previously, even on that 'Lambert blah...Adkins out' thread I say on the first page that I can see the logic, but that I don't agree with it. It smacked of Adkins trying to be too clever IMHO.

 

IMHO of course.

 

No you don't need to write IMHO for everything. Equally, you don't need to write waves of negative threads and posts just because we are not winning. More than that, after 8 games you were very vocal in your view that Adkins should be sacked. If you felt that it's reasonable to start repeatedly saying Adkins should be sacked because you didn't agree with a player selection or some subs in a game, then it's reasonable for you to get some stick when Adkins gets us playing well again with a week or two of your rants.

 

All IMHO of course.

[Dig Dig]

I said he has...he has, he has. I'm not saying that was his regular position for either, but he has played there succesfully. And he was a forward thinking mid, but not a full on behind the striker number 10. He was a central midfielder that tended to get forward more. IMHO

 

That's not really an opinion. He either did or he didn't. He has never played as a specialist DCM like Cork does. He played CM. Same as Davis and he was ineffective when asked to do the role Cork is doing now. Davis has played well when coming on in advanced position....similar to Michu.

[shurlock]

Yes, that is the implication, but what is wrong with that. Would you say that the 3 I have chosen have performed better or worse over the first third of the season.

 

Of course it qualifies as hindsight. Any decision that could have been made in the past.

 

Surely by my quick tendency to judge on the negative side of the things, I would have thought Saga was someone who was playing for a contract? Either way, conjecture about my opinion of a player who last played for us in 2009 (?) is ridiculous.

 

So hindsight shows that Michu would have been a better signing than Jrod over 1/3 of the season. The stuff of club legends

[tajjuk]

I said he has...he has, he has. I'm not saying that was his regular position for either, but he has played there succesfully. And he was a forward thinking mid, but not a full on behind the striker number 10. He was a central midfielder that tended to get forward more. IMHO

 

What he was and where he played for clubs in a completely different league is largely irrelevant.

 

Where he currently plays for Swansea is up front or behind the strikers thus making him a poor choice as a replacement for cork, even if he was 'doing a job'.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

No you don't need to write IMHO for everything. Equally, you don't need to write waves of negative threads and posts just because we are not winning. More than that, after 8 games you were very vocal in your view that Adkins should be sacked. If you felt that it's reasonable to start repeatedly saying Adkins should be sacked because you didn't agree with a player selection or some subs in a game, then it's reasonable for you to get some stick when Adkins gets us playing well again with a week or two of your rants.

 

All IMHO of course.

 

We had one of the worst starts to a Premiership season in the history of the Premier League. After 10 games we had conceded more goals than any team has ever conceded in the Premier League. We were a laughing stock as to how poor we were. There were numerous news outlets that were 100% sure he was going to be sacked and that Redknapp was going to come in.

 

Yet as soon as he changes things, and whether coincidence or not, changes the team selections, substitutions etc to match the issues that I identified ( I do agree Cork being back has made a massive difference) people got all uppity and said that these were not the reasons and haven't contributed to us playing better, purely because they didn't want me to be right. And that is the crux of the issue. People will read whatever they want to into posts, will argue black is white etc, just so that they are not seen to be agreeing with someone they don't like... IMHO of course.

[Saint Garrett]

I agree, and it was just my opinion. Can you at least see why I'd come to that conclusion? It seems that this opinion is seen as mental, and that's what I can't fathom. The animosity and vitriol on this site because I hold this opinion (and others that if you list them surely don't seem that unreasonable) is mental.

 

I can see that, and I respect your opinion. However I can also see Adkins reasoning for it, so can't really beat him with it can you? It might have worked, in the end it didn't. But more than once have his subs turned the game around.

 

It was very unedrstandable that Vs West Ham we wanted to keep the ball on the floor as much as possible as they were better than us in the air. Ok maybe Rickie should have played, but J-Rod had a very decent game agaisnt West Ham and set up a goal.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

That's not really an opinion. He either did or he didn't. He has never played as a specialist DCM like Cork does. He played CM. Same as Davis and he was ineffective when asked to do the role Cork is doing now. Davis has played well when coming on in advanced position....similar to Michu.

 

Please understand the irony of me using IMHO. I know it wasn't an opinion. It was because in my previous thread I put IMHO about 20 times.

 

Same as Davis, I wholeheartedly agree, but a better player I am sure you'll agree. ie. He would do a better job covering for Cork than Davis did. IMHO.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

What he was and where he played for clubs in a completely different league is largely irrelevant.

 

Where he currently plays for Swansea is up front or behind the strikers thus making him a poor choice as a replacement for cork, even if he was 'doing a job'.

 

But it's not irrelevant is it? That is the whole point. Him playing 40 games last season in CM, and an additional 4 or 5 this season is more relevant than him playing 4 games up front this season when Danny Graham was out injured and their other option was Leroy Lita.

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Please understand the irony of me using IMHO. I know it wasn't an opinion. It was because in my previous thread I put IMHO about 20 times.

 

Same as Davis, I wholeheartedly agree, but a better player I am sure you'll agree. ie. He would do a better job covering for Cork than Davis did. IMHO.

 

Maybe he would have done a better job than Davis. However, to suggest signing him as you originally did for that purpose is what people are debating. Especially as you positoned him as DMC

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I can see that, and I respect your opinion. However I can also see Adkins reasoning for it, so can't really beat him with it can you? It might have worked, in the end it didn't. But more than once have his subs turned the game around.

 

It was very unedrstandable that Vs West Ham we wanted to keep the ball on the floor as much as possible as they were better than us in the air. Ok maybe Rickie should have played, but J-Rod had a very decent game agaisnt West Ham and set up a goal.

 

Cool, we're getting somewhere. I can see your point with keeping it on the floor, it is always easier to keep the ball against teams like West Ham by using an intricate game and not playing them at their own hoofball. However, Lambert is a very good passer of the ball. Fair enough, we do play slightly different with him in the team, looking for more knockdowns etc but I think that should be more down to tactics rather than the specific players, ie we should be able to play both ways with Lambert in the team.