wild-saint Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 early days i know for a proper judgement but with both players bought for 12 million quid. yes they operate in different positions but which player would you prefer in your team and why? would you swap the ox back for gaston? who would make a bigger impact on our premier league season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Weird thread. Both completely different players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 (edited) Weird thread. Both completely different players. Very much this. Played for us at different times and in incomparable positions. I cannot even begin to think where best to start with this. Just purely on the basis of stability Gaston all the way! Edited 26 November, 2012 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Weird thread. Both completely different players. He's ackowledged that though? Which would you rather in the team right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Gaston. Multi-dimensions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Bloody hell. It's just a forum guys. Where people want to talk about Saints to escape reality for a while. I think Gaston is the one for us. More involved in the game - a playmaker. If I had to take one or the other I'd take him. Am seriously hoping the Ox doesn't turn out to be as disappointing as Theo has so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 26 November, 2012 Author Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Weird thread. Both completely different players. weird as it possibly stimulates a conversation about saints rather than the usual point scoring trash that we have to put up with from the usual paid up members? sorry to disappoint. feel free to close the thread mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 For the system that we play, Ramirez. He plays that number 10 role brilliantly and seems to be everywhere without wildy sprinting about the place. Having said that, Ox is good through the middle but isn't as refined as Ramirez IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 weird as it possibly stimulates a conversation about saints rather than the usual point scoring trash that we have to put up with from the usual paid up members? sorry to disappoint. feel free to close the thread mods. No issue with the agenda, just the comparison feels very 'out-there' to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 weird as it possibly stimulates a conversation about saints rather than the usual point scoring trash that we have to put up with from the usual paid up members? sorry to disappoint. feel free to close the thread mods. The OC, will score goals, more than Gaston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guan 2.0 Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Gaston in every aspect! But why not both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 The OC, will score goals, more than Gaston So far this season... Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain: 8 PL Apps - 0 Goals Gastón Ramírez: 7 PL Apps - 2 Goals Alex has scored 4 times since joining Arsenal. 2 in the PL, 1 in the LC vs Shrewsbury and once in Europe vs Olympiakos. I'm not so sure I agree on your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 The OC, will score goals, more than Gaston Maybe he will in the Arsenal team. Not so sure he would in the Saints team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 No me neither when you present it like that! But God, everyone on here is going to pick Gaston and I really wonder why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 AOC and Gaston would do fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 What does it matter that they are both different players? - Wild-saint asked which one you'd rather have, and who would make the most impact. I'd say Ramirez. Class apart, and the AMC role in the 4-2-3-1 formation is perfect for him. What a shame we don't have both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 He's ackowledged that though? Which would you rather in the team right now? Gaston with out a doubt much more this game. He is able to pick out a pass so easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 AOC and Gaston would do fine Yes. Add in Bale and we would be at least mid table :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 More to the point, who would you prefer in the side? Danny Fox or Guly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Red Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Gaston every time but I'd swap AOC for Punch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Weird thread. Both completely different players. He's ackowledged that though? Which would you rather in the team right now? weird as it possibly stimulates a conversation about saints rather than the usual point scoring trash that we have to put up with from the usual paid up members? sorry to disappoint. feel free to close the thread mods. Ignore Hypochondriac, he's going through a funny phase where he just has to pick on other peoples posts, despite the lack in quality of any of his many posts. For me, I'd have Gaston. All round better player who I think will go on to be a top player in Europe one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinR Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 How much would Gaston cost if he was English ? More than 12 million. There's your answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Ramirez as a choice between the two, but I would absolutely love to have Chamberlain back in the side (as well as Puncheon is doing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 27 November, 2012 Share Posted 27 November, 2012 Has anyone picked the OC over Gaston yet? Wonder how Arsenal fans would vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 27 November, 2012 Share Posted 27 November, 2012 No me neither when you present it like that! But God, everyone on here is going to pick Gaston and I really wonder why? Probably because he has more to his game (which, of course, is not the reason you are implying). He already seems a class act but I have a feeling we have yet to see the best of him. The £12m aren't exactly equivalent either. Imports are always cheaper. IF GR were English you could have added another £5m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 27 November, 2012 Share Posted 27 November, 2012 Ramirez as a choice between the two, but I would absolutely love to have Chamberlain back in the side (as well as Puncheon is doing). To be fair, AOC would have trouble displacing Puncheon in his current form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 27 November, 2012 Share Posted 27 November, 2012 Gaston, simply because he is a bit more advanced and seems to have at this time the better footballing brain. Think Oxo will get there, but is still young and for him its pace, power and confidence right now (all great attributes so would be happy if he was still here), but as a straight choice the greater awarness and touch on the ball, means its Gaston for me at this time - and not because he salready is our player, simply looking at what they can contribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 27 November, 2012 Share Posted 27 November, 2012 Has anyone picked the OC over Gaston yet? Wonder how Arsenal fans would vote? If asked who would fit better into OUR TEAM they would also probably vote for Gaston! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Troy Posted 27 November, 2012 Share Posted 27 November, 2012 stange how people can be annoyed that we spent 12m on gaston and didnt spend it on defenders (a different position to his if i remember correctly) but a gaston vs ox discussion is craaaaaazy!! both have a maturity about their play and something different. Gaston is creative but ox has a raw raw energy. Whilst were normally crying out for pace for saints i feel gaston offers more to the current set up than ox. The football we play has gaston really combining people together, keeping the ball, something which i really admired in the top areas of the pitch vs newcastle. Dads not a skate too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony F Posted 27 November, 2012 Share Posted 27 November, 2012 Dad's not a skate........ good call......... that swings it for me then - clearly we must all prefer Gaston (obligatory viewpoint) !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 27 November, 2012 Share Posted 27 November, 2012 Ramirez looks the business! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 27 November, 2012 Share Posted 27 November, 2012 Gaston because right now I don't think OXO would necessarily be doing a better job than Puncheon for us. Gaston is one of our best two options up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayrivers Posted 27 November, 2012 Share Posted 27 November, 2012 (edited) Strange - was only thinking if we had held onto ox, how good we would have been going forward. Lallana on the left, ox on the right, and gaston through the middle! Edited 27 November, 2012 by jayrivers typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 27 November, 2012 Share Posted 27 November, 2012 As has been, rightly, mentioned already, Gaston offers a lot more to our team and set up. Both are very good players, with potential to be top players in Europe. I think Gaston is slightly ahead of Oxo right now, but he does have a couple of years on him. I still think Oxo is a bit raw, too much power, pace & enthusiasm. All great attributes, but he isn't finished yet - which really suggests how good he can be. In my opinion, Gaston is more accomplished at this moment. Seems a bit more composed and patient, with a greater ability to really control and influence a game. However, I don't doubt that in his own way, Oxo will also be capable of this in time. I also don't get the Theo bashing that goes on. He made a big impact for us as a 16 year old playing through the middle. He wants to play through the middle, as he has repeatedly stated, and that is clearly his best position. Played centrally, his pace will worry any defender. This will cause them to sit deeper, so as not to leave space in behind. For a team like Arsenal, or even us with our Midfield, this is valuable as it allows more space to play with the ball. Theo is also a decent finisher, as he has been showing this year. His treatment from Wenger has been pretty shoddy in my opinion, and he progress has undoubtedly been hampered by Arsene, not the first time this has happened to a young player moving to the Arse. Just my opinion, but I still believe Theo can be a very good player if used correctly, he clearly isn't a winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 27 November, 2012 Share Posted 27 November, 2012 Strange - was only thinking if we had held onto ox, how good we would have been going forward. Lallana on the left, ox on the right, and gaston through the middle! To be fair, we've been amazing going forwards the last couple of games with the front 4 of AL, RL, GR and JP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 27 November, 2012 Share Posted 27 November, 2012 Can't knock the 4 we have up top at the moment, some really good performances of late. Though, it has to be said that would be a rather tasty front four, with pretty much everything between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayrivers Posted 27 November, 2012 Share Posted 27 November, 2012 True, but we don't have much depth there. Personally I think JP has been one of our best players, but there have been a couple of games where he hasn't been all there. Hopefully it won't happen, but a little more depth wouldn't hurt in those positions. Anyway I'm getting off topic for something that's been covered in numurous threads. As for the OP - Gaston. More a complete player. Can play wide right if needed. In a few years the answer might be different though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 27 November, 2012 Share Posted 27 November, 2012 It still makes me laugh when I read this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/13685517 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 27 November, 2012 Share Posted 27 November, 2012 It still makes me laugh when I read this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/13685517 Jesus, he was 20?? I thought he was 17/18 at the time. He hasn't even improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 27 November, 2012 Share Posted 27 November, 2012 It still makes me laugh when I read this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/13685517 It's unbelieveable the price put on English players, listening to Talksport now and they are discussing Darren Bent, he was £18m, eighteen million pounds! Gaston is a potential world class player, £12 should be an absolute bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 27 November, 2012 Share Posted 27 November, 2012 AL must be worth 12m+ now as well...going on the current rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 27 November, 2012 Share Posted 27 November, 2012 is a potential world class player, £12 should be an absolute bargain. it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 27 November, 2012 Share Posted 27 November, 2012 it is! Twelve quid certainly doesn't buy you much in the modern game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 27 November, 2012 Share Posted 27 November, 2012 Twelve quid certainly doesn't buy you much in the modern game. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonroader07 Posted 27 November, 2012 Share Posted 27 November, 2012 early days i know for a proper judgement but with both players bought for 12 million quid. yes they operate in different positions but which player would you prefer in your team and why? would you swap the ox back for gaston? who would make a bigger impact on our premier league season? NO... GR is light years better.......... can Ox play CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 December, 2012 Share Posted 11 December, 2012 i dont know if it is just a run of bad form...but OxO has been nothing but utterly terrible this season.......absolutely stank yet again when he came on recently.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 11 December, 2012 Share Posted 11 December, 2012 i dont know if it is just a run of bad form...but OxO has been nothing but utterly terrible this season.......absolutely stank yet again when he came on recently.... He'd be developing properly if his manager was Alex Ferguson. Same goes for Theo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 11 December, 2012 Share Posted 11 December, 2012 Now we've got Punch we don't need Oxo anyway, so Gaston's the man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white56 Posted 12 December, 2012 Share Posted 12 December, 2012 Listening to the commentary of the Bradford vs Arsenal game last night, Oxo came on as sub in the 69th minute and didn't do much more than pass to Bradford players. He did at least score a penalty in the shoot out. On what i heard last night it has to be Gaston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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