Dazza82 Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 So can someone please tell me why he didnt play at least 15mins, As apparently as some have said on here thats what his contract says??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Dont you recall what happened after the WBA game? Adkins has told Cortese to butt out and is doing things his way, this means Guly don't get his 15 minutes, obviously. Just look at the results, 7 points, 6 goals and unbeaten. Round of applause for the Adkins way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Dont you recall what happened after the WBA game? Adkins has told Cortese to butt out and is doing things his way, this means Guly don't get his 15 minutes, obviously. Just look at the results, 7 points, 6 goals and unbeaten. Round of applause for the Adkins way. If of course, that is remotely true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Dont you recall what happened after the WBA game? Adkins has told Cortese to butt out and is doing things his way, this means Guly don't get his 15 minutes, obviously. Just look at the results, 7 points, 6 goals and unbeaten. Round of applause for the Adkins way. Seems an odd sort of contract stipulation if you can opt out of it just by saying you don't want to follow it any more. This is going to be quite the legal precedent. In fact I'd expect to read about this in the newspapers soon if this ground-breaking challenge in employment law has gone through so easily. we're lucky to have your reliable insider knowledge so that we know about this stuff before it's made public knowledge. It's also a bit worrying for everybody else with a contract though as it may not be worth the paper its printed on if your line manager can just tell the boss to "butt out" and ignore the contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Seems an odd sort of contract stipulation if you can opt out of it just by saying you don't want to follow it any more. This is going to be quite the legal precedent. In fact I'd expect to read about this in the newspapers soon if this ground-breaking challenge in employment law has gone through so easily. we're lucky to have your reliable insider knowledge so that we know about this stuff before it's made public knowledge. It's also a bit worrying for everybody else with a contract though as it may not be worth the paper its printed on if your line manager can just tell the boss to "butt out" and ignore the contract. Hopefully Cortese will learn not to include these clauses in future then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Theres clearly no 'contract clause', but the fact that NC signed him clearly indicates that NA was under pressure to play him. I guess NA has realised that if he is going to get sacked, he may as well give it a go "his way", and its working. I wonder where all these Guly luvvies are now, thought we couldnt live without him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Theres clearly no 'contract clause', but the fact that NC signed him clearly indicates that NA was under pressure to play him. I guess NA has realised that if he is going to get sacked, he may as well give it a go "his way", and its working. I wonder where all these Guly luvvies are now, thought we couldnt live without him? No, you're wrong, Turkish told us repeatedly that this contract clause exists and got quite upset when people shouted him down/sneered at him. I think we can expect either Guly to sue the club or to read about the change in employment contract law soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 The balance of the team seems to get thrown when Guly plays, wherever he plays. He has his moments and has scored a fair share of goals but it always seems a case of shoe-horning him in. Be good to see Puncheon carry on his current form on the right-hand-side, if he does then Guly will continue to struggle to even get in the matchday squad. 15 minutes lollage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Gules has done great job for us but he's got to work on his game if he's going to force Ramirez out of the 1st eleven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 No, you're wrong, Turkish told us repeatedly that this contract clause exists and got quite upset when people shouted him down/sneered at him. I think we can expect either Guly to sue the club or to read about the change in employment contract law soon. Don't be silly, he'll be under NDA and we'll settle out of court and tell the court the day before we are due to attend that we won't be bothering to offer a defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Gules has done great job for us but he's got to work on his game if he's going to force Ramirez out of the 1st eleven. yeah, its almost like he will need to be a completely different player to force Ramirez out.......Messi perhaps ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Don't be silly, he'll be under NDA and we'll settle out of court and tell the court the day before we are due to attend that we won't be bothering to offer a defence. No NDA will be binding if the contract has been breached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 No NDA will be binding if the contract has been breached. They'll agree one, just like the number of other ex employees that are under NDA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Is it a fact that GULY has this in his contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Either way, I guess his contract will be annulled or we'll be forced to honour it properly very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Is it a fact that GULY has this in his contract? Well either that or Turkish was wrong and I find that to be very hard to believe after he was so indignant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 I dont think i ever suggested he has a clause in his contract, unless it was to wind some of you mugs up about it sub and reel you in. More that he was being forced to be played from above. Either way it's strange that he hasn't featured since 'the chat' apart from a non playing sub yesterday when up until then he's featured in every game when available, apart from when he was being punished for his drink driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Yeah, everything I've ever said that was wrong, I was just winding people up too. I've never actually been wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Everything i ever say on an internet mongboard is 100% serious and should be taken as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Yet you get very upset when people don't take you seriously, talking about not sharing your inside information. You also sneered at anyone who doubted the contract clause, now you sound like you're starting to doubt it yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Ha! Of course i get upset, the opinions of strangers on an internet message board is obviously as important to me as it is to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Is it a fact that GULY has this in his contract? Lol. Obviously not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Well, if it weren't important to you, why would you spend so much of your day talking about it? You must post at least 20 times a day, probably more, and mostly concerning other people's opinions. I would agree that I also spend too much time taking notice of other people's opinions, but considerably less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 No contract clause and no "chat", just Turkish trying to wind everyone up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 No contract clause and no "chat", just Turkish trying to wind everyone up. Or to put it another way, just Turkish getting it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Or to put it another way, just Turkish getting it wrong. YES, Thats exactly what it was!! Does it make you feel happy that someone you dont know on a message board made a claim that a squad player has a clause in his contract that means he has to play 15 minutes every week and this might not have been true?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 If this is not true Turkish. What else have you posted that is not true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 YES, Thats exactly what it was!! Does it make you feel happy that someone you dont know on a message board made a claim that a squad player has a clause in his contract that means he has to play 15 minutes every week and this might not have been true?!! So you're admitting you just talk a lot of **** on here then and make stuff up to suit your agenda ??! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 If this is not true Turkish. What else have you posted that is not true? The stuff i share by PM is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 YES, Thats exactly what it was!! Does it make you feel happy that someone you dont know on a message board made a claim that a squad player has a clause in his contract that means he has to play 15 minutes every week and this might not have been true?!! Actually, I have to admit to enjoying it a bit, can you tell? Well done to you for backing down though, that deserves respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 So you're admitting you just talk a lot of **** on here then and make stuff up to suit your agenda ??! No. On this occasion i said I dont ever remember saying there was a clause in his contract, i think other people said that and i played along, although if i did say it it would just have been a wind up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 So you're admitting you just talk a lot of **** on here then and make stuff up to suit your agenda ??! On the agenda thread Turkish admitted that his agenda is to wind people up, get some bites and occassionaly talk about football. Fair play to the lad, he was open about his agenda and now it's easier for all to take his posts for what they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 What about NC and/or Reed picking the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 What about NC and/or Reed picking the team? There is something in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Or you just hate Cortese... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_sinner Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 it could be that through Guly indescretions, he may have broken club rules which may give cause to level the playing field reference 'clause'? I think TURKS is right there is something in it. It's like when pardew kept playing joseph mills when he was massively out of his depth. I hope that the 'interfering' has gone now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Or you just hate Cortese... I dont hate him, i just think he's wierd. I've actaully praised him in the last 24 hours so stick that on your keyboard and type it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 26 November, 2012 Author Share Posted 26 November, 2012 There is something in that. Wind up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 There is something in that. How can we believe you though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 How can we believe you though? As i've said many times Jamie, i dont give a sh*t if people believe me or not. Im not about to start putting disclaimers on my posts saying which was are true and which ones aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Recycled ink cartridge sales slow this morning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Recycled ink cartridge sales slow this morning? Working from home today. Recycled sales are good for margin BTW, in case you fancy getting involved in the trade, can make up to 20% on a top of the range coloured £24 one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Recycled ink cartridge sales slow this morning? I think there is something in this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 I think there is something in this... It is FACT. I've done my target already, nice little christmas pay cheque on it way, should clear £1150 this in December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 I wonder where all these Guly luvvies are now, thought we couldnt live without him? I don't think anybody has ever said that. Why are people so keen to work in absolutes on here? You're either with Cortese or with Adkins, but you can't be with both. You either hate Guly and want him out the club ASAP, or you love him and think he should play ever second of football, but you can't appreciate the fantastic job he did for us in back to back promotions whilst also realising he's not good enough to start for us now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Still think he is a decent player, but agree that he unbalances the team. Only place he fits in is were Ramirez plays and there's no real comparison there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 I don't think anybody has ever said that. Why are people so keen to work in absolutes on here? You're either with Cortese or with Adkins, but you can't be with both. You either hate Guly and want him out the club ASAP, or you love him and think he should play ever second of football, but you can't appreciate the fantastic job he did for us in back to back promotions whilst also realising he's not good enough to start for us now. i take your point, but thats just football fans isnt it. I would disagree on his help on back to back promotions, where was his influence last season. Listen Guly scored in Div 1, quite a few goals, accepted. However, he failed to live up to that in the C-Ship and now the PL, which sort of suggests where his level is, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 i take your point, but thats just football fans isnt it. I would disagree on his help on back to back promotions, where was his influence last season. Listen Guly scored in Div 1, quite a few goals, accepted. However, he failed to live up to that in the C-Ship and now the PL, which sort of suggests where his level is, no? He scored 11 goals last year and double figure assists I believe, lets ignore that though as clearly he wasnt good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 It is FACT. I've done my target already, nice little christmas pay cheque on it way, should clear £1150 this in December. Seen a nice little number down Burtons yet with all the vouchers headed your way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 I dont think i ever suggested he has a clause in his contract, unless it was to wind some of you mugs up about it sub and reel you in. More that he was being forced to be played from above. Either way it's strange that he hasn't featured since 'the chat' apart from a non playing sub yesterday when up until then he's featured in every game when available, apart from when he was being punished for his drink driving. Looks like you want to be done for liable. If you are not correct on this, you could find yourself in hot water. My take on it is that cork is back, he is fit and guly has been bumped down the pecking order. But that's imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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