SaintWill71 Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 With United unveiling one of Fergie today I was instantly reminded of the 'journey' to creating our one of Ted Bates. Anyone know what happened the first attempt? Did Mandaric end up with it as a self portrait statue? Amazing how someone got it so wrong before someone got it so so right, it's now one of the best I have seen.
SaintWill71 Posted 23 November, 2012 Author Posted 23 November, 2012 Didn't the first one get melted down? I dont know, would seem the only possible outcome
Wes Tender Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 I'm anticipating the one of Ferguson to feature one of his trademark postures. It will either be of him pointedly looking at his watch, or poised for the verbal assault on his players, teacup in hand, apoplectic rage registering on his face.
Hatch Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 Criminal charges should have been brought against someone. ref Bates statue.
Barry Sanchez Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 It does make me chuckle, the angle of the wrist holding the ball, the massive head, the cheap or cheap looking ill fitting suit,the bricklayer hands, the pea sized football. That Ian Brennan well what was he thinking?
ART Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 Read a statue of Pope John Paul II is to have it's head redone after appearing more like Mussolini than John Paul II. One wonders whether the artists don't do such things deliberately. With Christmas fast approaching everytime I see a Santa I am reminded of the true Saints Santa, Markus Liebbherr and give thanks for his generosity and warm heart.
Barry Sanchez Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 Read a statue of Pope John Paul II is to have it's head redone after appearing more like Mussolini than John Paul II. One wonders whether the artists don't do such things deliberately. With Christmas fast approaching everytime I see a Santa I am reminded of the true Saints Santa, Markus Liebbherr and give thanks for his generosity and warm heart. Very true.
saint_sinner Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 I heard that Leon Crouch replaced the offending statue with the new one and paid for it with his own money Fair play if true as the money for the original statue was raised by the fans or at least half of it was. I cant beleive that there was no refund on the original!
Barry Sanchez Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 Leon Crouch, an unsung hero and saviour.
Miltonaggro Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 I heard that Leon Crouch replaced the offending statue with the new one and paid for it with his own money Fair play if true as the money for the original statue was raised by the fans or at least half of it was. I cant beleive that there was no refund on the original! There should have been but Mike Wilde lost the receipt!...
saint_sinner Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 There should have been but Mike Wilde lost the receipt!... and a lot more
Miltonaggro Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 and a lot more Dignity and Dragon print dressing gown...
Pamplemousse Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 It does make me chuckle, the angle of the wrist holding the ball, the massive head, the cheap or cheap looking ill fitting suit,the bricklayer hands, the pea sized football. That Ian Brennan well what was he thinking? The original sculptor normally does animals, not humans. He is a very talented sculptor but the club hired the wrong man initially.
Miltonaggro Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 The original sculptor normally does animals, not humans. He is a very talented sculptor but the club hired the wrong man initially. He should have done Ted as a Sphinx...
Barry Sanchez Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 Akin to a bricky taking on the Sistine Chapel? http://www.bbc.co.uk/hampshire/content/articles/2007/03/20/ted_bates_statue_feature.shtml Jesus on the cross in the background looks alright, maybe we should of had that with a couple of Saints praying instead.
Dr. Kucho Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 Whoever did the current one should also do the next statue, coming to the question: Which Saints legend should be next to have a statue? Lawrie Mac? MLT?
old_southy Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 MLT is not going to have one for quite a few years, but the club should think about ways of honoring him in the future.
Miltonaggro Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 I would like to see one for each stand, and it would have to be Marcus and Le Tissier, with perhaps Micky Channon giving it the windmill. Just don't let Brennan near it...
Barry Sanchez Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 Difficult one that as different age groups would go for their idol of their era I think, Le Tissier for me.
old_southy Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 When I was at the emirates I was quite impressed with the amount of historic players and other club related murals (old programs etc) in and around the ground.
Miltonaggro Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 Difficult one that as different age groups would go for their idol of their era I think, Le Tissier for me. Can you imagine a Brennan version of MLT, it would look like something from Mordor...
saint_sinner Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 Difficult one that as different age groups would go for their idol of their era I think, Le Tissier for me. Not on Cortese's watch! Marcus would be a fitting tribute. I fondly remember the day of the JPT final I spoke to Marcus in the Royal box about the last couple of matches and the results around our matches and what it meant for our promotion prospects and he didn't have the first clue what I was talking about. Nice man though and his missus was really classy
SaintWill71 Posted 23 November, 2012 Author Posted 23 November, 2012 It's still beyond me that, prior to Cortese, MLT wasn't honoured at SMS with more than the naming of a suite
Golden Balls Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 First of all, MarKus. I'd love to see at statue of MLT and Markus around the ground. Legends for very different reasons.
Miltonaggro Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 Erm, what about Rupert Lowe? I might commission Brennan to undertake this as the centrepiece for my bin storage area...
David Strover Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 I lifted this from the link to article - that sort of bit him on the arse didn't it? Also nice spelling of 'symbolic' too. "A happy Pompey fan........ I think it should stay as a reminder of how embarrassing your side really is, kind of symollic."
Miltonroader07 Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 What happened to the many requests of a statue of me at SMS
Miltonaggro Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 What happened to the many requests of a statue of me at SMS There is a transient art installation to all Portsmuff fans permanently outside of St Mary's, entitled 'Missed Staffordshire Bull Terrier Sh*t' - it's very moving...
Hatch Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 What happened to the many requests of a statue of me at SMS Work in progress.
Miltonroader07 Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 There is a transient art installation to all Portsmuff fans permanently outside of St Mary's, entitled 'Missed Staffordshire Bull Terrier Sh*t' - it's very moving... Replies from Registered Users that wont pay to be on the board will be ignored.
Miltonaggro Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 Replies from Registered Users that wont pay to be on the board will be ignored. Irony, not big in Paulsgrove...
Dellman Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 The first Ted statue was hilarious in one way and an acute embarrassment in another, what beats me is how it ever got to the point of being accepted and unveiled. It shows that the Club at the time was in a broken state on and off the pitch, not fit for purpose. That's what we've come from and in a short time COYR
Miltonroader07 Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 Replies from Registered Users that wont pay to be on the board will be ignored. One more Post and he/she/it is gone for today..
The Kraken Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 The first Ted statue was hilarious in one way and an acute embarrassment in another, what beats me is how it ever got to the point of being accepted and unveiled. It shows that the Club at the time was in a broken state on and off the pitch, not fit for purpose. That's what we've come from and in a short time COYR "It is very rare I am lost for words but I saw the statue last week and it is awesome - a tremendous tribute to a great man. Southampton fans have waited a long time for this and it is going to be fantastic. I really believe it will be the best football statue anywhere both in size and the amount of detail". Ted Bates Trust chairman Dave Ford. :lol:
Miltonaggro Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 One more Post and he/she/it is gone for today.. How's the vow of silence going, Oscar?...
Sheaf Saint Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 I'm anticipating the one of Ferguson to feature one of his trademark postures. It will either be of him pointedly looking at his watch, or poised for the verbal assault on his players, teacup in hand, apoplectic rage registering on his face.
Miltonaggro Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 "It is very rare I am lost for words but I saw the statue last week and it is awesome - a tremendous tribute to a great man. Southampton fans have waited a long time for this and it is going to be fantastic. I really believe it will be the best football statue anywhere both in size and the amount of detail". Ted Bates Trust chairman Dave Ford. :lol: Be fair, it would have been in a dimly lit shed under a thick sheet ;-)
saintbob40 Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 Statues are for dead people surely? Will it have a big read nose and a frantically chewing gum feature?
krissyboy31 Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 This is what I thought but the actual statue is nothing like him, either facially or in manorism. Has anyone ever seen him wearing a sheepskin, standing completely calm with arms folded.
Wes Tender Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 Brilliant effort! Exactly how it ought to have been
Bearsy Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 What happened to the many requests of a statue of me at SMS Don't try me too high Milton! Lot of work went into ur statue and you're mugging me off like it don't even exist!
VectisSaint Posted 23 November, 2012 Posted 23 November, 2012 Erm, what about Rupert Lowe? Has he been melted down? Good riddance if he has. Recycled into something useful.
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