Ashley Grute Posted 22 November, 2012 Share Posted 22 November, 2012 I was at an apprenticeship graduation tonight and Nigel was handing out the certificates to students. He is such a positive and genuinely decent guy- I am really glad we have stuck with him. He gave up lots of time to talk to students and parents- really top bloke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 22 November, 2012 Share Posted 22 November, 2012 Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 22 November, 2012 Share Posted 22 November, 2012 He is a great bloke, I really like him, that will never excuse poor performance though Thankfully it seems he has turned a corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 22 November, 2012 Share Posted 22 November, 2012 He is very positive, and I think we have a great manager for years to come, and one that is very well respected and intelligent. Nigel is a Saint! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 22 November, 2012 Share Posted 22 November, 2012 I like Nigel Adkins but I find this love in with him nauseating, his quotes, quips and tendencies to look for bits of poems and books to stir the players on and generally confuse them and himself wind me up no end. If he fails I will be disappointed for him but I wont miss his phychobabble crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 22 November, 2012 Share Posted 22 November, 2012 I like Nigel Adkins but I find this love in with him nauseating, his quotes, quips and tendencies to look for bits of poems and books to stir the players on and generally confuse them and himself wind me up no end. If he fails I will be disappointed for him but I wont miss his phychobabble crap. What would you prefer, someone like old Saggy Face trotting out the same old crap that he always does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 22 November, 2012 Share Posted 22 November, 2012 No someone who says when we play ****e we were ****e thats all, a good old bollocking not some nampy pampy crap, can you imagine the greatest managers coming out with the Art Or War or some Karma Suture rubbish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Grute Posted 22 November, 2012 Author Share Posted 22 November, 2012 I was just making the point that he seems a really decent and genuine guy- I can't imagine Redknapp or Allardyce giving up their evening to hand out certificates to 16 year olds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted 22 November, 2012 Share Posted 22 November, 2012 I was just making the point that he seems a really decent and genuine guy- I can't imagine Redknapp or Allardyce giving up their evening to hand out certificates to 16 year olds. Excellent post. Ignore the doom merchants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 22 November, 2012 Share Posted 22 November, 2012 I was just making the point that he seems a really decent and genuine guy- I can't imagine Redknapp or Allardyce giving up their evening to hand out certificates to 16 year olds. Nige is great but don't tell me that Redknapp and Big Sam haven't or wouldn't do similar. Nige was glad-handing a few kids and families. Hardly the pinnacle of self sacrifice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 22 November, 2012 Share Posted 22 November, 2012 Nige is great but don't tell me that Redknapp and Big Sam haven't or wouldn't do similar. Nige was glad-handing a few kids and families. Hardly the pinnacle of self sacrifice. Not even like he left the office Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 22 November, 2012 Share Posted 22 November, 2012 No someone who says when we play ****e we were ****e thats all, a good old bollocking not some nampy pampy crap, can you imagine the greatest managers coming out with the Art Or War or some Karma Suture rubbish? This almost misses the point. Everything a manager says has an impact. Be it a media statement a newspaper quote or a direct conversation gets back to the players. It's all a game. He is playing it brilliantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 22 November, 2012 Share Posted 22 November, 2012 No someone who says when we play ****e we were ****e thats all, a good old bollocking not some nampy pampy crap, can you imagine the greatest managers coming out with the Art Or War or some Karma Suture rubbish? There was a post today suggesting the players got a right rollocking after the Swansea game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 22 November, 2012 Share Posted 22 November, 2012 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?41375-Adkins-Post-Swansea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 22 November, 2012 Share Posted 22 November, 2012 I think Nigel is a genuine good guy, intelligent person and a great manager. And I absolutely got the impression that the players like and respect him. Never really understood why so many english fans don't recognize academic persons in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Grute Posted 22 November, 2012 Author Share Posted 22 November, 2012 I honestly think a lot of premier league managers would be too busy to attend an event like tonight. He was there for 3 hours and the majority of the people there weren't saints fans as they come from a college in Portsmouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 22 November, 2012 Share Posted 22 November, 2012 I think Nigel is a genuine good guy, intelligent person and a great manager. And I absolutely got the impression that the players like and respect him. Never really understood why so many english fans don't recognize academic persons in football. Sorry what red brick did the Wirral sage attend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 22 November, 2012 Share Posted 22 November, 2012 I was just making the point that he seems a really decent and genuine guy- I can't imagine Redknapp or Allardyce giving up their evening to hand out certificates to 16 year olds. Adkins seems like a really decent bloke but you are completely wrong about Redknapp, he has done sh!t loads for charity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 22 November, 2012 Share Posted 22 November, 2012 Adkins being a nice bloke sgould not be up for contention, being a too nice boss is though and I think we have suffered because of this, I understand every manager has his own style but I would like to see a bit more of the old hairdryer treatment, if its not him so be it I can accept that providing the results back up his hairdresser attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Grute Posted 22 November, 2012 Author Share Posted 22 November, 2012 Didn't realise that about Harry- maybe he was a bad example! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted 22 November, 2012 Share Posted 22 November, 2012 Nige is great but don't tell me that Redknapp and Big Sam haven't or wouldn't do similar. Nige was glad-handing a few kids and families. Hardly the pinnacle of self sacrifice. I despise Redknapp with a passion, though admittedly he does do quite a lot of charity work in Poole and Bournemouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 22 November, 2012 Share Posted 22 November, 2012 No someone who says when we play ****e we were ****e thats all, a good old bollocking not some nampy pampy crap, can you imagine the greatest managers coming out with the Art Or War or some Karma Suture rubbish? ****, is he involved in teaching them about sexual positions as well as trying to provide them with motivation and a positive environment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 22 November, 2012 Share Posted 22 November, 2012 Adkins being a nice bloke sgould not be up for contention, being a too nice boss is though and I think we have suffered because of this, I understand every manager has his own style but I would like to see a bit more of the old hairdryer treatment, if its not him so be it I can accept that providing the results back up his hairdresser attitude. Didn't realise you were actually at Staplewood and St. Mary's every day. How on earth do you know what he is like there? We see his media persona, that's it. He's qualified up to his tits. Physiotherapy, Psychology, Business/Finance, and I'm probably forgetting a few and doing him a injustice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 22 November, 2012 Share Posted 22 November, 2012 Of course I am not are you? how come its valid if people have a positive slant on him its valid but a negative one deemed ********? He is qualified up to the tits? Righto, lets give him a 25 year contract then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 22 November, 2012 Share Posted 22 November, 2012 Didn't realise you were actually at Staplewood and St. Mary's every day. How on earth do you know what he is like there? We see his media persona, that's it. He's qualified up to his tits. Physiotherapy, Psychology, Business/Finance, and I'm probably forgetting a few and doing him a injustice. Sexual positions as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 22 November, 2012 Share Posted 22 November, 2012 He has turned his hand to most things, tricks now? North Wales is a cold lonely place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc1971 Posted 22 November, 2012 Share Posted 22 November, 2012 Adkins seems like a really decent bloke but you are completely wrong about Redknapp, he has done sh!t loads for charity. So did Jimmy Saville.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 22 November, 2012 Share Posted 22 November, 2012 I honestly think a lot of premier league managers would be too busy to attend an event like tonight. He was there for 3 hours and the majority of the people there weren't saints fans as they come from a college in Portsmouth. So it was really a 'special needs in the community evening' then. Good of Nigel however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 23 November, 2012 Share Posted 23 November, 2012 Di Matteo spent this evening hand feeding orphan puffins at a puffin sanctuary in Inverness. This after being sacked 24 hours previously. Not saying that this in any way diminishes Nigel's actions, but just adding perspective... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieDog Posted 23 November, 2012 Share Posted 23 November, 2012 Di Matteo spent this evening hand feeding orphan puffins at a puffin sanctuary in Inverness. This after being sacked 24 hours previously. Not saying that this in any way diminishes Nigel's actions, but just adding perspective... well it's not as if he had anything better to do then, is it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 23 November, 2012 Share Posted 23 November, 2012 I was at an apprenticeship graduation tonight and Nigel was handing out the certificates to students. He is such a positive and genuinely decent guy- I am really glad we have stuck with him. He gave up lots of time to talk to students and parents- really top bloke! Congratulations on your graduation Ashley. Sounds like a great evening. Cheers for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 23 November, 2012 Share Posted 23 November, 2012 The quickest way to turn these pampered millionaires against a manager and therefore they stop playing for him is to give them a heated rollicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 23 November, 2012 Share Posted 23 November, 2012 I despise Redknapp with a passion, though admittedly he does do quite a lot of charity work in Poole and Bournemouth. And helped his dog, Rosie open an Offshore Bank Account, when all most people do is buy them a new toy bone at Xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Grute Posted 23 November, 2012 Author Share Posted 23 November, 2012 Trousers- I am one of their college lecturers- thanks though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 23 November, 2012 Share Posted 23 November, 2012 Trousers- I am one of their college lecturers- thanks though! Ah! Oops Good to hear a 'good news' story although perhaps you should have added something like: "Nigel was great right up until the point he spat in my wife's Irish Coffee" (just to keep the cynics happy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 23 November, 2012 Share Posted 23 November, 2012 This almost misses the point. Everything a manager says has an impact. Be it a media statement a newspaper quote or a direct conversation gets back to the players. It's all a game. He is playing it brilliantly. This...he says as much as he wants to say and is eloquent enough to wrap it up in many different ways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 23 November, 2012 Share Posted 23 November, 2012 Sorry what red brick did the Wirral sage attend? So you didn't get in to university then? Degrees in physiotherapy and psychology from University of Salford....I've no idea of the masonry colour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 23 November, 2012 Share Posted 23 November, 2012 It's nice to be nice I suppose, but the relationship between being good company, and being good at your job, is a tenuous one at best. Unlike some on here I'm not really that interested in the managers personality. I am interested however in the results his team delivers. It seems to me that many of the most successful people in life aren't all that pleasant to be around. Years ago I saw a study that concluded that an alarming percentage of top businessman exhibited psychological traits that resemble that of a psychopath. That may, or may not, be true, but Sir Alex Ferguson is beyond any doubt the most successful manager in the modern game, while Michael Schumacher was clearly the best driver of his generation. I don't think either are often accused of being all that 'nice'. What I require from our manager is that he gets results - all the rest is just more background noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 23 November, 2012 Share Posted 23 November, 2012 The quickest way to turn these pampered millionaires against a manager and therefore they stop playing for him is to give them a heated rollicking. That must be why Ferguson is renowned for his softly-softly approach in the dressing room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 23 November, 2012 Share Posted 23 November, 2012 Dear God! Some people on this forum are first rate pillocks. The OP 'dares' to write a positive comment about our manager and others jump down his throat. Yes lots of footballers and lots of managers give time to charities and events such as the OP described, but also, yes, Adkins does it particularly well, and I have also seen him go the extra mile in similar circumstances. He comes across as a really, genuinely, decent bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 23 November, 2012 Share Posted 23 November, 2012 Of course I am not are you? how come its valid if people have a positive slant on him its valid but a negative one deemed ********? He is qualified up to the tits? Righto, lets give him a 25 year contract then. Well, it appears that Adkins' chirpy personality gets on your tits. Good. Promotions in successive years from the third division is really quite a rare occurrence, so he must be doing something right. It might be because he's a good communicator, using his skills gained from his knowledge of sports psychology, or perhaps he's just good at all the other stuff that makes a good manager like tactical nous, good judgment, etc. Yes, it is more important that he is liked because he gets results, but a bonus if he is a likeable character too. Most Saints fans believe him to be a decent and likeable man. If you've just joined the forum earlier this month and quite a proportion of your posts so far are just criticism of Adkins because you dislike his positive chirpiness, then there might just be suspicions that you are only here on a wind-up. It is evident from your lack of knowledge about his academic background that you don't even know a lot about Adkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsaints106 Posted 23 November, 2012 Share Posted 23 November, 2012 I was just making the point that he seems a really decent and genuine guy- I can't imagine Redknapp or Allardyce giving up their evening to hand out certificates to 16 year olds. This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 23 November, 2012 Share Posted 23 November, 2012 Adkins being a nice bloke sgould not be up for contention, being a too nice boss is though and I think we have suffered because of this, I understand every manager has his own style but I would like to see a bit more of the old hairdryer treatment, if its not him so be it I can accept that providing the results back up his hairdresser attitude. So Adkins needs to publicly hammer the players, picking out their faults and weaknesses, to the media, before you are convinced? FFS, where you have been before this month, we have really needed you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 23 November, 2012 Share Posted 23 November, 2012 No someone who says when we play ****e we were ****e thats all, a good old bollocking not some nampy pampy crap, can you imagine the greatest managers coming out with the Art Or War or some Karma Suture rubbish? This one had me in stitches! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 23 November, 2012 Share Posted 23 November, 2012 So you didn't get in to university then? Degrees in physiotherapy and psychology from University of Salford....I've no idea of the masonry colour ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 23 November, 2012 Share Posted 23 November, 2012 Well, it appears that Adkins' chirpy personality gets on your tits. Good. Promotions in successive years from the third division is really quite a rare occurrence, so he must be doing something right. It might be because he's a good communicator, using his skills gained from his knowledge of sports psychology, or perhaps he's just good at all the other stuff that makes a good manager like tactical nous, good judgment, etc. Yes, it is more important that he is liked because he gets results, but a bonus if he is a likeable character too. Most Saints fans believe him to be a decent and likeable man. If you've just joined the forum earlier this month and quite a proportion of your posts so far are just criticism of Adkins because you dislike his positive chirpiness, then there might just be suspicions that you are only here on a wind-up. It is evident from your lack of knowledge about his academic background that you don't even know a lot about Adkins. I am not on the wind up, and why do you assume I dislike him? I dont at all, you assume that as I have the audacity to question his methods, heaven forbid on a football forum to have a difference of opinion! And why do you think I know little about him? Again an assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 23 November, 2012 Share Posted 23 November, 2012 That must be why Ferguson is renowned for his softly-softly approach in the dressing room. No he is not, he is known for the soft tactile approach away from the game and glaring lights with the players not when they are involved in a match, ask Beckham. He has now mellowed with age but that took him until he was near 70 so Adkins has 20 odd years to go, a rocket up the arse works for some and not for others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 23 November, 2012 Share Posted 23 November, 2012 So Adkins needs to publicly hammer the players, picking out their faults and weaknesses, to the media, before you are convinced? FFS, where you have been before this month, we have really needed you. He did us a favour with Danny Fox and let us all see his faults by repeatedly picking him and thereby not having the need to speak about his performances........................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 23 November, 2012 Share Posted 23 November, 2012 He did us a favour with Danny Fox and let us all see his faults by repeatedly picking him and thereby not having the need to speak about his performances........................... He didn't have a lot of alternative options. For whatever reason we did not acquire an LB during the summer and he clearly felt that Shaw was not ready at that point. Your proposal would have been.......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 23 November, 2012 Share Posted 23 November, 2012 Wayne Bridge, a sealed Buttner deal but that really does not deal with the point does it? If I were in charge of a acquisitions of a football club I could take the blame and its not really up to me to change the squad, we are discussing why we did not get better players? Not getting them is not really an excuse or did Adkins think Fox, Fonte, Hooiveld, Davis and Guly were genuinely Premiership players? That is a more worrying proposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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