patred44 Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 http://news.discovery.com/space/mars-mystery-what-has-curiosity-discovered-121120.html#mkcpgn=rssnws1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 All that money spent to keep the results quiet - bit late to decide the world isnt ready for the news. Did they send the mission expecting failure ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 Yep, God forbid they check the findings and double check them so as to completely verify their authenticity. My prediction is that this will be the stunning revelation that Mars could (millions of years ago) have had conditions that were capable of supporting life. Stunning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 Yep, God forbid they check the findings and double check them so as to completely verify their authenticity. My prediction is that this will be the stunning revelation that Mars could (millions of years ago) have had conditions that were capable of supporting life. Stunning. Maybe the time to "check the findings and double check them" is before the lead scientist goes on record saying "This data is gonna be one for the history books. It's looking really good" Personally, I am not convinced about the ability to avoid cross-contamination from the Earth ecosystem with such probes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 Yep. God forbid they should otherwise attract some curiosity to a multi-billion dollar project. Still, I'm no NASA scientist so I guess you know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 Yep. God forbid they should otherwise attract some curiosity to a multi-billion dollar project. Still, I'm no NASA scientist so I guess you know better. What is your major malfunction, Mr Angry from Sneersville ? The statement he has given is already pretty committal without giving specifics, with talk of "history books". He already looks a tw*t if he has to go back on his assertion if the data is concluded to be insignificant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 December, 2012 Share Posted 3 December, 2012 What is your major malfunction, Mr Angry from Sneersville ? The statement he has given is already pretty committal without giving specifics, with talk of "history books". He already looks a tw*t if he has to go back on his assertion if the data is concluded to be insignificant. Yep. He's a big tw*t. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2242398/Curiosity-completes-analysis-Martian-soil--fails-ingredients-life.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 3 December, 2012 Share Posted 3 December, 2012 Yep. He's a big tw*t. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2242398/Curiosity-completes-analysis-Martian-soil--fails-ingredients-life.html Oh please, they found organic compounds, which is very interesting. Why do you always have to be such a downer on everything? Also, love when you said that you personally weren't convinced of the ability of probes such as Curiosity not to have any cross-contamination... what makes you say this? What personal insight do you have into the methods of NASA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 3 December, 2012 Share Posted 3 December, 2012 Oh please, they found organic compounds, which is very interesting. Why do you always have to be such a downer on everything? Also, love when you said that you personally weren't convinced of the ability of probes such as Curiosity not to have any cross-contamination... what makes you say this? What personal insight do you have into the methods of NASA? Suspect he's referring to this: http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-09/11/curiosity-bacteria-mars Pretty huge mistake to be fair. That said, one bloke getting excited by (then) unverified findings is vastly different to the organisation as a whole announcing something. I don't blame them for wanting to verify, especially in light of how difficult it is to eliminate contamination from Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 3 December, 2012 Share Posted 3 December, 2012 Suspect he's referring to this: http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-09/11/curiosity-bacteria-mars Pretty huge mistake to be fair. That said, one bloke getting excited by (then) unverified findings is vastly different to the organisation as a whole announcing something. I don't blame them for wanting to verify, especially in light of how difficult it is to eliminate contamination from Earth. Oh for sure, but he is just excited about his work. The official NASA announcement is still extremely interesting. If we found life elsewhere, I think it would be the biggest discovery by man to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 3 December, 2012 Share Posted 3 December, 2012 If life has developed independently on two worlds in our solar system then the universe is likely to be teeming with life, exciting stuff indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 3 December, 2012 Share Posted 3 December, 2012 If life has developed independently on two worlds in our solar system then the universe is likely to be teeming with life, exciting stuff indeed. Not so sure about that. It's probable that Mars and Earth both came from the same accretion disk around the same star, and so both had similar starting conditions. It could be that life is limited to this solar system, and that's without actually finding life on Mars yet. We simply have no way of telling without actually finding something that proves otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 December, 2012 Share Posted 3 December, 2012 Not so sure about that. It's probable that Mars and Earth both came from the same accretion disk around the same star, and so both had similar starting conditions. It could be that life is limited to this solar system, and that's without actually finding life on Mars yet. We simply have no way of telling without actually finding something that proves otherwise. Yep. Would just like to point that Grotzinger is not some "bloke" working on the mission, he's the chief scientist, who clearly should be senior enough to keep his gob shut until certain. His earlier comments were almost similar to SaintsWeb trolling, it seems - attention seeking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 3 December, 2012 Share Posted 3 December, 2012 Not so sure about that. It's probable that Mars and Earth both came from the same accretion disk around the same star, and so both had similar starting conditions. It could be that life is limited to this solar system, and that's without actually finding life on Mars yet. We simply have no way of telling without actually finding something that proves otherwise. Given the size of the Universe, the likelyhood that out solar system is the only one that has life is very slim indeed. Even if we are all here by sheer fluke, the sheer size of the universe must surely mean that-that very same fluke has happened again, SOMEWHERE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 3 December, 2012 Share Posted 3 December, 2012 Yep. Would just like to point that Grotzinger is not some "bloke" working on the mission, he's the chief scientist, who clearly should be senior enough to keep his gob shut until certain. His earlier comments were almost similar to SaintsWeb trolling, it seems - attention seeking... Being the head scientist doesn't make you good at PR Given the size of the Universe, the likelyhood that out solar system is the only one that has life is very slim indeed. Even if we are all here by sheer fluke, the sheer size of the universe must surely mean that-that very same fluke has happened again, SOMEWHERE? http://www.hawking.org.uk/life-in-the-universe.html Hawking's views cover things better than I ever could I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSaint Posted 3 December, 2012 Share Posted 3 December, 2012 More of a concern regarding cross-contamination, are the probes they are planning to drop on one of Jupiter's moons, Europa, which contains ice under it's surface. Mars is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 4 December, 2012 Share Posted 4 December, 2012 More of a concern regarding cross-contamination, are the probes they are planning to drop on one of Jupiter's moons, Europa, which contains ice under it's surface. Mars is dead. Dont worry, TMA2/Zagadka/Halman will destroy it before it lands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 6 December, 2012 Share Posted 6 December, 2012 This cartoon sums up this thread perfectly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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