Window Cleaner Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 fair points...but given the money spent..we SHOULD stay up....plenty of teams have spent no where near what we have, with worse squads and worse managers have stayed up..some, first time of asking...... we shall see how good adkins is but with the money having been as unwisely spent as it would seem to be I ask myself whether it's really relevant at all. We could have gone out and blown 35 million on a striker, whether that would guarantee better results I just couldn't say, especially with our goalkeeping situation.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 fair points...but given the money spent..we SHOULD stay up....plenty of teams have spent no where near what we have, with worse squads and worse managers have stayed up..some, first time of asking...... we shall see how good adkins is Of course, we will see in the end. We have spent a lot of money, but the league is tough. Do you look at many squads and think ours is far superior? For me only really Readings is noticeable poor. Last year Blackburn and Bolton were poor, before that Blackpool, Hull etc. We have spend a good amount, so have Sunderland on Flecther and Johnson and they are still poor. Had we spent 70m then we would probably have a squad on paper as good as a team like Newcastle, who are still struggling. The Prem is tough and this year more than normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 I think we should stick with NA too. BUT Its not what I or you all think. NC sas a finite window of opportunity here. If he rates RDM, thinks they could have a good working relationship and is already mulling over a change, its probably will happen very quickly, since he will know that RDM is likely to be snapped up soon. Good point ALP's and if he doesn't rate him or isnt thinking of a change, sweet F'all will happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 yeah, he would be worse..he only won the champions league on being a defensive unit.. definitely worse...yep, great logic Last time I checked we didn't have John Terry, Cech and probably the best left back in the world, not to mention a world class team in front of them. You know essentially same Chelsea defence that won the league two years in a row and was unbeaten at home for what like two years? I'm sure it took a lot of work for the tactical genuis that is DI Matteo to get that lot to defend well Maybe rather than looking at his work with the multi-million pound assembled world class squad at Chelsea, it's better to look at his work with WBA, a newly promoted club who I'm pretty sure were praised for their attacking play but were very weak defensively. Sound familiar? I believe he got sacked at West Brom because he was essentially leading them to relegation, a team Roy Hodgson then comfortably led to 11th place. A lot more logical to compare his record at a club with a similar standing to us than with Chelsea. He shouldn't have ben sacked by Chelsea but to instantly assume he's better than Adkins just because of 6 months with one of the richest clubs in the world is naive. He's only been a manager for like 4 seasons, he's got a lot less experience than Adkins and achieved a lot less utnil he got his opportunity with Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 fair points...but given the money spent..we SHOULD stay up....plenty of teams have spent no where near what we have, with worse squads and worse managers have stayed up..some, first time of asking...... we shall see how good adkins is To be fair our squad is extremely young exceptionally so for the prem and as such lacking in prem experience. Our money apperars to have been spent with a longer horizon in mind than many of our predecessors. Adkins is trying to stay within the clubs stated policy of bringing youth on and having 50% of the team ultimately from the Academy. If this strategy works it will see us attracting the cream of good young players from the Uk Europe and worldwide as they will see a quicker path to success at Saints. It is however an untried and more risky approach to your usual promotion candidates. This is a different approach to going out and signing a team of old prem league cloggers with the short term aim of staying up being the only strategy. I think NC understands the Saints approach requires longer gelling and bedding in time and therefore seems to have a bit more patience. Not that a couple more defenders and a keeper would not have come in handy (but it appears they only wanted young ones a la Butland or nothing) So Adkins does have a much harder job in the short term and needs to be judged on this basis not on the size of our spend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 Of course, we will see in the end. We have spent a lot of money, but the league is tough. Do you look at many squads and think ours is far superior? For me only really Readings is noticeable poor. Last year Blackburn and Bolton were poor, before that Blackpool, Hull etc. We have spend a good amount, so have Sunderland on Flecther and Johnson and they are still poor. Had we spent 70m then we would probably have a squad on paper as good as a team like Newcastle, who are still struggling. The Prem is tough and this year more than normal. why is this years prem tougher than normal..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 why is this years prem tougher than normal..? more and more money is being poured into it. Make a list of players who arrived in the PL this season and compare it with a list of those who left. The case is quickly proven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 more and more money is being poured into it. Make a list of players who arrived in the PL this season and compare it with a list of those who left. The case is quickly proven. I would argue that man u, man city, spurs etc are not as good as last season...liverpool are no better, neither are newcastle... I reckon the number of points to stay up would do well to be higher than last season too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 I would argue that man u, man city, spurs etc are not as good as last season...liverpool are no better, neither are newcastle... I reckon the number of points to stay up would do well to be higher than last season too Perhaps Citeh,Utd and Spurs are doing less well because the other teams are stronger. In Spurs case though I don't really doubt that it's purely a management issue, AVB just doesn't know what he's doing there as we so clearly saw on Saturday. Newcastle is about injuries and administrative troubles with african players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 I'd say Adkins is better. How much actual 'management' did Di Matteo do in that Champs League run? It was Lampard, Terry and Drogba running the show. What sort of job did he do at WBA? Their Champion's League win was incredible. It may never happen again and anyone who says luck doesn't play a role in sport needs to watch that game over and over and over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 Dont think the top teams are as good as they were last year, but I'd say the bottom teams are much better. The teams that went down last season were incredibly poor. Ok, Reading are pretty woeful and QPR are massively underperforming, but I'd say this year it's tougher to stay in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 Dont think the top teams are as good as they were last year, but I'd say the bottom teams are much better. The teams that went down last season were incredibly poor. Ok, Reading are pretty woeful and QPR are massively underperforming, but I'd say this year it's tougher to stay in the league. funny that, suits the "nigel is doing really well, honest" point of view... I would guess that the teams replacing those that went down are worse...two of them anyway..1 of which, holds a record for goals against Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 Worst or Naive? We've had a bloody hard start to the season. Normally when teams come up they carry their momentum into the first few months then just about struggle through and stay up. We're learning as time goes by and NA has shown he's learning. What will you moan about if we win our next 2 games? "...but..but...but we should have beaten Man Utd...." BLLAAAAAAHHHHH much better teams have been beaten by Man Utd in injury time, I'm over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 (edited) Worst or Naive? We've had a bloody hard start to the season. Normally when teams come up they carry their momentum into the first few months then just about struggle through and stay up. We're learning as time goes by and NA has shown he's learning. What will you moan about if we win our next 2 games? "...but..but...but we should have beaten Man Utd...." BLLAAAAAAHHHHH much better teams have been beaten by Man Utd in injury time, I'm over it. im glad you are over it...we were poor against a poor spurs team...an utterly dreadful fulham team...the results dont lie..we have been one of the worst teams at this point in prem history......a fact, the goals against says that we have one of the worst defences in premier league history..but no, no one ever could do better I think swindon and derby in the last 20 years have had less points than us at this stage (and QPR of course)......does not look good, does it Edited 21 November, 2012 by Thedelldays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 (edited) Of course, we will see in the end. We have spent a lot of money, but the league is tough. Do you look at many squads and think ours is far superior? For me only really Readings is noticeable poor. Last year Blackburn and Bolton were poor, before that Blackpool, Hull etc. We have spend a good amount, so have Sunderland on Flecther and Johnson and they are still poor. Had we spent 70m then we would probably have a squad on paper as good as a team like Newcastle, who are still struggling. The Prem is tough and this year more than normal. MotD claim we are the highest net spenders behind Manchester - that's more than staying up material... Edited 21 November, 2012 by Legod Third Coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 Dont think the top teams are as good as they were last year, but I'd say the bottom teams are much better. The teams that went down last season were incredibly poor. Ok, Reading are pretty woeful and QPR are massively underperforming, but I'd say this year it's tougher to stay in the league. I'd say no-one is as good as last year! United couldn't beat Norwich and in truth we SHOULD have beaten them. That was 100% naivety from our manager. That said, we have a great run of games coming up. Play our style (as we did Saturday) under a confident manager and we will be ok. Better than that even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 MotD claim we are the highest net spoenders behind Manchester - that's more than staying up material... But being the 2nd highest spenders means nothing. If we'd have blown 40 million on Rooney would we be any better. Our spending was irrational and imbalanced. The amount means nothing; Utd bought Kagawa for a shed load. I can't see that he has improved their game one iota. Van Persie is good agreed but they already had Rooney,Welbeck and Chicharito, their defence is still pretty average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 But being the 2nd highest spenders means nothing. If we'd have blown 40 million on Rooney would we be any better. Our spending was irrational and imbalanced. The amount means nothing; Utd bought Kagawa for a shed load. I can't see that he has improved their game one iota. Van Persie is good agreed but they already had Rooney,Welbeck and Chicharito, their defence is still pretty average. but compared to norwich, swansea, wigan, reading, villa etc...we have spent an f-ing fortune.....really have...yet we are so bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 im glad you are over it...we were poor against a poor spurs team...an utterly dreadful fulham team...the results dont lie..we have been one of the worst teams at this point in prem history......a fact, the goals against says that we have one of the worst defences in premier league history..but no, no one ever could do better I think swindon and derby in the last 20 years have had less points than us at this stage (and QPR of course)......does not look good, does it A poor Spurs team which consisted of Bale, Lennon, Huddlestone, Defoe, Dempsey amongst others. Regardless of how 'poor' they are, their players are still better than ours. It's a learning curve isn't it when you dont have anyone who has played in the league together. Since we've been able to put out our best side we've got 4 points from 2 games. The only other time Ramirez was match fit he scored against a very good Everton side, but we were massively naive when we played up there, and we took the **** out of Villa 4-1. We've run City and Utd very close and when Arsenal click they can beat anyone in the world. Yes we were poor at West Ham and Vs Wigan, but I think we've dramatically improved since then. Surely having been to the games you can see that ? We're learning as a club, top to bottom, that includes the chairman, manager and players. As I said, if we go on a bad run between now and new years day, then ok maybe yuou have to look at it, but look at the long term rather than getting miserable about the past ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 but compared to norwich, swansea, wigan, reading, villa etc...we have spent an f-ing fortune.....really have...yet we are so bad because we spent what 85/90% of the money on attacking players, some of which we didn't really need. As I keep saying the amount is irrelevant when it's not wisely spent. When Mayuka and JRod total about 4 minutes pitch time in a match you can just write off the 11 million £ that we spent on them. Take that away and our spending probably falls more into line with our league position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 but compared to norwich, swansea, wigan, reading, villa etc...we have spent an f-ing fortune.....really have...yet we are so bad We got promoted last season with half a league 1 side and some championship standard players. Why is it a shock that we would have to spend a lot of money to even compete in this league?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 A poor Spurs team which consisted of Bale, Lennon, Huddlestone, Defoe, Dempsey amongst others. Regardless of how 'poor' they are, their players are still better than ours. It's a learning curve isn't it when you dont have anyone who has played in the league together. Since we've been able to put out our best side we've got 4 points from 2 games. The only other time Ramirez was match fit he scored against a very good Everton side, but we were massively naive when we played up there, and we took the **** out of Villa 4-1. We've run City and Utd very close and when Arsenal click they can beat anyone in the world. Yes we were poor at West Ham and Vs Wigan, but I think we've dramatically improved since then. Surely having been to the games you can see that ? We're learning as a club, top to bottom, that includes the chairman, manager and players. As I said, if we go on a bad run between now and new years day, then ok maybe yuou have to look at it, but look at the long term rather than getting miserable about the past ! when I say poor..yes, on the day, they were poor.. just like fulham were actually, utterly terrible...on the day...you have to take your chances..at home to get points when team are they poor on the day...we never..other teams seem to. we are going to have to take points..IE, win against some of the big boys if we are to have a chance of staying up..simple as that really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 I remain to be convinced that RDM would be an improvement on Adkins. All very well lauding him as the manager of the team that won the Champions League, but he did it with Abramovich's money and with the players that that money bought. Debateable as to whether RDM would have fared better at Southampton with the squad that Adkins had here, or indeed whether conversely Adkins would have done better at Chelsea than RDM. All hypothetical conjecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 But being the 2nd highest spenders means nothing. If we'd have blown 40 million on Rooney would we be any better. Our spending was irrational and imbalanced. The amount means nothing; Utd bought Kagawa for a shed load. I can't see that he has improved their game one iota. Van Persie is good agreed but they already had Rooney,Welbeck and Chicharito, their defence is still pretty average. I'm not saying the money was well spent, but you cannot spend the third highest in the dvision and aim just to stay up... I'll bet that wasn't the Chairman's plan, anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 I remain to be convinced that RDM would be an improvement on Adkins. All very well lauding him as the manager of the team that won the Champions League, but he did it with Abramovich's money and with the players that that money bought. Debateable as to whether RDM would have fared better at Southampton with the squad that Adkins had here, or indeed whether conversely Adkins would have done better at Chelsea than RDM. All hypothetical conjecture. And let us not forget, Avram Gran was one slip away from being the first Chelsea manager to win the CL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 And let us not forget, Avram Gran was one slip away from being the first Chelsea manager to win the CL... haha, good point...he did, get a poor skates team to an fa cup final.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 Second half Vs Spurs I actually thought we were very good after an awful first half. At Everton we bossed the game apart from the alst 20 mins of the first half. West Ham we were pretty much in control of the game but the first few minutes of the 2nd half we threw the game away. Wigan we were dominant but they hit us on the break, and then the 2nd goal came from Fonte's mistake. Swansea we deserved to beat. Fulham could have gone either way and we probably deserved to win that game I thought. On another day I think we could have quite a few more points than we do, but we don't do we. So the only thing we can do is crack on and get some points under our belts and Saturday was a great start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 Second half Vs Spurs I actually thought we were very good after an awful first half. At Everton we bossed the game apart from the alst 20 mins of the first half. West Ham we were pretty much in control of the game but the first few minutes of the 2nd half we threw the game away. Wigan we were dominant but they hit us on the break, and then the 2nd goal came from Fonte's mistake. Swansea we deserved to beat. Fulham could have gone either way and we probably deserved to win that game I thought. On another day I think we could have quite a few more points than we do, but we don't do we. So the only thing we can do is crack on and get some points under our belts and Saturday was a great start. well, we have too....winning against the other two teams in the bottom 3 is no where near good enough to hope to stay up I think we can do it...but I would not be surprised if adkins is gone in the next month..going from the previous load of games we have had....way way too many mistakes that will cost us big...the next month is f-ing huge...IMO, we have the players to pull away...deffo..so IMO, it is on the manager to provide that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 What can Adkins do to stop Clyne slipping over ? Fonte slipping over? Gazza's decision making. FWIW Gazza didn't **** about with the ball as much on Saturday and got rid when he needed to....improvement is what it's about and learning from mistakes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 (edited) What can Adkins do to stop Clyne slipping over ? Fonte slipping over? Gazza's decision making. FWIW Gazza didn't **** about with the ball as much on Saturday and got rid when he needed to....improvement is what it's about and learning from mistakes... gazza was terrible on saturday IMO..... you are right..he cant stop clyne slipping over..what he can do, was he could have stopped setting us up to get murdered against team slightly better than the bottom 3... no point going over the past as we dont agree..you think we are amazing, I think we are pretty terrible... lets hope the next 4 games see us get at least 7 points Edited 21 November, 2012 by Thedelldays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 gazza was terrible on saturday IMO..... The thing is if we'd spent 5 or 6 million on a real PL keeper in May we would be not far off mid table now. Just eliminating the error by Gazza against Swansea would take us out of the bottom 3 I think although Reading would still have a game in hand. Just that glaring error by the transfer committee has cost us far more points than blowing 7.6 million on JRod has brought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 but compared to norwich, swansea, wigan, reading, villa etc...we have spent an f-ing fortune.....really have...yet we are so bad Villa have a player on their books that cost them £24m, so they don't really deserve to be spoken about in the same breath as the other teams financially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 (edited) gazza was terrible on saturday IMO..... you are right..he cant stop clyne slipping over..what he can do, was he could have stopped setting us up to get murdered against team slightly better than the bottom 3... no point going over the past as we dont agree..you think we are amazing, I think we are pretty terrible... lets hope the next 4 games see us get at least 7 points I don't think we are amazing by any stretch of the imagination. I can however look at the positives from our performances and say we're not far away from being a side well capable of finishing 12-15th. As long as I see improvement I'm happy. If we were playing really badly, getting totally over run and not deserving a result out the games then yes I'd probably be closer to your thinking, but we're not. I've been to every game apart from Man City, Man Utd and WBA, and we're really not that far off. Maybe I'm just happy for us to be competing with these teams rather than struggling against Rochdale.... And atleast our players are really trying and playing for the manager. People moaned about us not buying any prem experience. I saw a group of players with hundreds of prem games between them on Saturday, and they we absolutely dreadful. Edited 21 November, 2012 by Saint Garrett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 Poor Di Matteo. Abramovich swopped his contracts and put him on 6 months trial period with no compensation. How disgusting can that man get when Di Matteo worked his arse off for Chelsea. Grrrrrr!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangermouth Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 I've been telling you all along that di Matteo and Cortese are best mates and that as soon as Chelsea dumped him - he was always a fill in there anyway as events have proved - he would join us. Timing is perfect. Cortese will have known what was going on behind the scenes at Chelsea. Now it seems Adkins is up irrespective of recent results and the outcome of our two home games over the long weekend. The waiting is over for Cortese. The downside is that Chelsea can't defend either so whilst di Matteo's style of play helped Swansea & WBA develop their tippy-tappy style of football that is a prefect match to the 'Adkins' style, we may end up in exactly the same position as we are now but with a more experienced manager and maybe some better under-studies. At least di matteo is also great mates with Roy Hodgson so this should help Lambert, Lallana 7 Cork. Now, you have to admit it all adds up......*. * In Pompey maths... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 Poor Di Matteo. Abramovich swopped his contracts and put him on 6 months trial period with no compensation. How disgusting can that man get when Di Matteo worked his arse off for Chelsea. Grrrrrr!!!!! Is this true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 Thing is Di Matteo is going to be no better a defensive organiser than NA, in fact he will probably be worse. Yeh 10 men behind the ball and hope Barcelona miss a hat full worked in the Champions league but this season Chelsea have been very poor defensively and West Brom under him weren't that great either. Stick with Nigel, I think were going to beat Newcastle Sunday and will get something from Liverpool away as well. I reckon we will be midatable come the new year. In fact in their Barca and Bayern games Drogba was probably Chelsea's best defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 Just by the by the Di Matteo's still live up here in the Midlands. She's got a shop in the Leamington Spa and won't move south cos she wears the trousers. I believe she also sells the trousers. These infos brought to you by Saintsweb Birmingham Correspondant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 Owner never wanted Di Matteo, put after winning the champions league he didn't have a choice, not shocked in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 but compared to norwich, swansea, wigan, reading, villa etc...we have spent an f-ing fortune.....really have...yet we are so bad Villa Given £3.5m Hutton £3m Vlaar £3m Dunne £5m Ireland £8m El Almadia £2m Bent £18m rising to £24m N'Zogbia £9.5m Westwood £2m Makuon £6m Warnock £8m Lowton £3m Delph £8m Petrov £6.5m Benteke £7m Guzan £0.6m Bennett £2.75m ?? £97m did we pay a fortune more than £97m and have a god given right to be above them? What did our cost to put together, quarter of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 Hey SB, have you voted for me in the SWF awards 2012 yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 Villa Given £3.5m Hutton £3m Vlaar £3m Dunne £5m Ireland £8m El Almadia £2m Bent £18m rising to £24m N'Zogbia £9.5m Westwood £2m Makuon £6m Warnock £8m Lowton £3m Delph £8m Petrov £6.5m Benteke £7m Guzan £0.6m Bennett £2.75m ?? £97m did we pay a fortune more than £97m and have a god given right to be above them? What did our cost to put together, quarter of that? Haven't a lot of those left Jean II Makoun is at Rennes, Petrov is sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 Villa Given £3.5m Hutton £3m Vlaar £3m Dunne £5m Ireland £8m El Almadia £2m Bent £18m rising to £24m N'Zogbia £9.5m Westwood £2m Makuon £6m Warnock £8m Lowton £3m Delph £8m Petrov £6.5m Benteke £7m Guzan £0.6m Bennett £2.75m ?? £97m did we pay a fortune more than £97m and have a god given right to be above them? What did our cost to put together, quarter of that? either way...teams have come up..spent no where near what we have..had smaller squads and managers YOU would laugh at if suggested they came in for nigel have stayed up first time of asking..... we on the other hand...have set a record and not a good one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 Hey SB, have you voted for me in the SWF awards 2012 yet? Thank god you reminded me pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 No problem my semi literate nemesis. 1 more post today, make it count! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 Just stick with Nige. Will become a great manager with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 Ha, Benitez appointed by Chelsea already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 Benitez installed as interim manager. he might get something out of Torres but that will be all. they have flair players...Hazard,Oscar and like to attack in numbers......Benitez sets his stall out defensively first,then midfield...his squads are quite ridged....will he last the season. we would have done well to have installed Rafa.......organisation at the back. never on the cards I suspect though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 Benitez installed as interim manager. he might get something out of Torres but that will be all. they have flair players...Hazard,Oscar and like to attack in numbers......Benitez sets his stall out defensively first,then midfield...his squads are quite ridged....will he last the season. we would have done well to have installed Rafa.......organisation at the back. never on the cards I suspect though. To be honest, I'd rather get relegated playing Adkins style football than scrape by every year in the Prem playing god awful Rafa style football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 November, 2012 Share Posted 21 November, 2012 Villa Given £3.5m Hutton £3m Vlaar £3m Dunne £5m Ireland £8m El Almadia £2m Bent £18m rising to £24m N'Zogbia £9.5m Westwood £2m Makuon £6m Warnock £8m Lowton £3m Delph £8m Petrov £6.5m Benteke £7m Guzan £0.6m Bennett £2.75m ?? £97m did we pay a fortune more than £97m and have a god given right to be above them? What did our cost to put together, quarter of that? List WBAs squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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