Dig Dig Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 Just wondering why there are no anti-Adkins threads this week? It can't be on the basis that we won at the weekend because Adkins was apparently really out of his depth two weeks ago and disadvantaged to the likes of Curbishley, Jewell, Phil Brown, McCarthy etc who all have loads of prem experience. No one would be that fickle and stupid to change their minds on the basis of one victory surely? To the vocal minority who have been calling for Adkins head, don't bottle it now, keep the anti-Adkins agendas going otherwise you might lose some respect and credibility!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 Just wondering why there are no anti-Adkins threads this week? It can't be on the basis that we won at the weekend because Adkins was apparently really out of his depth two weeks ago and disadvantaged to the likes of Curbishley, Jewell, Phil Brown, McCarthy etc who all have loads of prem experience. No one would be that fickle and stupid to change their minds on the basis of one victory surely? To the vocal minority who have been calling for Adkins head, don't bottle it now, keep the anti-Adkins agendas going otherwise you might lose some respect and credibility!! Of course they would. In fact, one has already created a thread repenting. The lunatics are out of the asylum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 19 November, 2012 Author Share Posted 19 November, 2012 For those who do want Adkins out, I hear a really experienced prem manager called Mark Hughes might be available soon. Can we really afford not to take advantage of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 Just wondering why there are no anti-Adkins threads this week? It can't be on the basis that we won at the weekend because Adkins was apparently really out of his depth two weeks ago and disadvantaged to the likes of Curbishley, Jewell, Phil Brown, McCarthy etc who all have loads of prem experience. No one would be that fickle and stupid to change their minds on the basis of one victory surely? To the vocal minority who have been calling for Adkins head, don't bottle it now, keep the anti-Adkins agendas going otherwise you might lose some respect and credibility!! Who the hell advocated the appointment of those Managers? Nigel has changed his obsession with trying to shoehorn in Rodriguez, has stopped subbing our best players, and has stopped trying to be too clever, the main things that we have been advocating. He is learning from his mistakes and the performances are MUCH better. So no, why would more threads appear. IF he goes back to making basic errors then yes, more threads may appear. Pretty simple really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 Of course they would. In fact, one has already created a thread repenting. The lunatics are out of the asylum. Its a temporary repent though - there'll be more wailing and 'Adkins isnt up to it, the club only win when they play the way I think they should' next time we lose. We'll then have another dozen or so changes of mind concluding with "I knew that would happen" at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 Who the hell advocated the appointment of those Managers? Nigel has changed his obsession with trying to shoehorn in Rodriguez, has stopped subbing our best players, and has stopped trying to be too clever, the main things that we have been advocating. He is learning from his mistakes and the performances are MUCH better. So no, why would more threads appear. IF he goes back to making basic errors then yes, more threads may appear. Pretty simple really. Agree - plus still feel we should have signed Bosingwa (title winner) over the inexperienced and unproven Clyne. Another failure for the transfer committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 Agree - plus still feel we should have signed Bosingwa (title winner) over the inexperienced and unproven Clyne. Another failure for the transfer committee. With the wages he was on I can't see we'd ever have picked up Bosingwa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 19 November, 2012 Author Share Posted 19 November, 2012 Who the hell advocated the appointment of those Managers?Nigel has changed his obsession with trying to shoehorn in Rodriguez, has stopped subbing our best players, and has stopped trying to be too clever, the main things that we have been advocating. He is learning from his mistakes and the performances are MUCH better. So no, why would more threads appear. IF he goes back to making basic errors then yes, more threads may appear. Pretty simple really. Plenty of people were claiming that Adkins has achieved nothing in comparison to these managerial greats. Not sure why anyone would bother even mentioning them unless they were trying to suggest something.... Adkins subbed Ramirez and Lambert on Saturday....two of our best players... only difference is that we won. Fickle fickle football fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 Plenty of people were claiming that Adkins has achieved nothing in comparison to these managerial greats. Not sure why anyone would bother even mentioning them unless they were trying to suggest something.... Adkins subbed Ramirez and Lambert on Saturday....two of our best players... only difference is that we won. Fickle fickle football fans. 2 of our best players but not best performers on the day. Ramirez was subbed as he'd played and travelled during the week and was knackered, rightly so. Lambert was taken off in the 90th minute when we had a two goal lead. However, I didn't see him remove Puncheon and Cork when we had a 1 goal lead, the same way he did when removing Puncheon, Lallana and Lambert against Man United. Surely you realise the difference between these two situations. Also, I'd like you to show me where people suggested bringing in these managers (and being serious about it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 Allegedly NA is odds on favourite to replace Pardew at Newcastle if they lose to us on Sunday. The TOon fans are up in arms about their injury crisis and lack of form. If we only draw and his job is safe then he is expected to replace Di Matteo at Chelsea should they fail to qualify for the CL next round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 Allegedly NA is odds on favourite to replace Pardew at Newcastle if they lose to us on Sunday. The TOon fans are up in arms about their injury crisis and lack of form. If we only draw and his job is safe then he is expected to replace Di Matteo at Chelsea should they fail to qualify for the CL next round. No way Pardew is leaving them anytime soon, not with 8 years worth of contract to pay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 Plenty of people were claiming that Adkins has achieved nothing in comparison to these managerial greats. Not sure why anyone would bother even mentioning them unless they were trying to suggest something.... Adkins subbed Ramirez and Lambert on Saturday....two of our best players... only difference is that we won. Fickle fickle football fans. Whoa there; really Diggers??!! How many is plenty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 19 November, 2012 Author Share Posted 19 November, 2012 2 of our best players but not best performers on the day. Ramirez was subbed as he'd played and travelled during the week and was knackered, rightly so. Lambert was taken off in the 90th minute when we had a two goal lead. However, I didn't see him remove Puncheon and Cork when we had a 1 goal lead, the same way he did when removing Puncheon, Lallana and Lambert against Man United. Surely you realise the difference between these two situations. Also, I'd like you to show me where people suggested bringing in these managers (and being serious about it). I'm not going through all the Adkins threads to find examples, but trust me, plenty were using the names mentioned here to at least belittle Adkins achievements to date. The only difference I see is that Adkins saw fit to make changes based on what he knows....how knackered players are, the opposition we're up against, how the flow of the game develops etc. Some work for you, some don't. I wonder if people would be showing as much sympathy for the Ramirez sub had we gone on to concede two quick fire goals immediately after....he still would have been knackered after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 19 November, 2012 Author Share Posted 19 November, 2012 Whoa there; really Diggers??!! How many is plenty? Probably about the same amount of people claiming that the prem is easy and we'll sail onto Europe. I'm constantly told there were plenty of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 No way Pardew is leaving them anytime soon, not with 8 years worth of contract to pay up. He shoots, he scores : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 The best bit is that whilst there have been the usual lunies on here trying to talk Adkins out of a job, the fans at the games have been firmly behind the Manager - before the KO at QPR there was as much support for him as after the game. I would be interested DPS in the following: 1. If you joined in such chants at games like Spurs and Swansea and then came and crucified him on here? 2. If you found it strange that NA got so much support from the fans in games like that and before when it was clear he was out of his depth? I must say that I find your posts easier to comprehend after you posted your agenda on the Agenda Amnesty thread - and because of that I respect it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 Probably about the same amount of people claiming that the prem is easy and we'll sail onto Europe. I'm constantly told there were plenty of those. Ah I see. In that case, I'm not really sure who this thread is actually aimed at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 He shoots, he scores : Whatever - pretty clear Pardew will come under pressure soon and fans will want him out and be clueless to the fact they can't afford to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 I'm not going through all the Adkins threads to find examples, but trust me, plenty were using the names mentioned here to at least belittle Adkins achievements to date. The only difference I see is that Adkins saw fit to make changes based on what he knows....how knackered players are, the opposition we're up against, how the flow of the game develops etc. Some work for you, some don't. I wonder if people would be showing as much sympathy for the Ramirez sub had we gone on to concede two quick fire goals immediately after....he still would have been knackered after all. You're going through and making stuff up Dig-Dig. You say plenty yet you don't want to give examples. You won't accept that he has made mistakes tactically this season and that people are allowed to criticise the manager for this. Taking off your 3 best and most dangerous players against United, especially one that holds the ball up so well and is our only outlet for releasing the pressure is idiotic. The point is we didn't concede 2 goals, and the balance wasn't lost from the team when he went off. So what's your point? You're playing a hypothetical game that no one wins, and no real point can be made from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 19 November, 2012 Author Share Posted 19 November, 2012 Ah I see. In that case, I'm not really sure who this thread is actually aimed at. Just asking whats changed in two weeks when some people were so sure Adkins is out of his depth and decided to tell us all at every opportunity. Opinion can't of changed on the basis of one win surely? That would be really dumb wouldn't it Karckers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 Just asking whats changed in two weeks when some people were so sure Adkins is out of his depth and decided to tell us all at every opportunity. Opinion can't of changed on the basis of one win surely? That would be really dumb wouldn't it Karckers? I think you're missing the big shades of gray in between that sort of black and white statement, you cheeky little scamp. But you know what; I'm going to go have a quick read of such threads and see if I can enlighten myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 19 November, 2012 Author Share Posted 19 November, 2012 You're going through and making stuff up Dig-Dig. You say plenty yet you don't want to give examples. You won't accept that he has made mistakes tactically this season and that people are allowed to criticise the manager for this. Taking off your 3 best and most dangerous players against United, especially one that holds the ball up so well and is our only outlet for releasing the pressure is idiotic. The point is we didn't concede 2 goals, and the balance wasn't lost from the team when he went off. So what's your point? You're playing a hypothetical game that no one wins, and no real point can be made from. Where did I say he's made no mistakes this season? Enough to claim that he's definitely out of his depth like others have.....certainly not. I'm not making stuff up, when people pointed out that Adkins deserves time after back to back promotions, others said that it's no better than the likes of what McCarthy, Jewell etc achieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 The best bit is that whilst there have been the usual lunies on here trying to talk Adkins out of a job, the fans at the games have been firmly behind the Manager - before the KO at QPR there was as much support for him as after the game. I would be interested DPS in the following: 1. If you joined in such chants at games like Spurs and Swansea and then came and crucified him on here? 2. If you found it strange that NA got so much support from the fans in games like that and before when it was clear he was out of his depth? I must say that I find your posts easier to comprehend after you posted your agenda on the Agenda Amnesty thread - and because of that I respect it. 1. I wasn't at the games, but no I wouldn't have joined in. 2. No, I didn't find it strange as people see football in different ways. It's their opinion and they're allowed to have it!? I understand there are fans out there that would prefer to go down with NA at the helm than stay up with someone else. I get that. What I don't get is why people on these boards try to surpress opposing opinions. It's not something I would do, so why do others. My agenda is simple. I want Saints to be as succesful as popular. The first 10 games of the season I didn't understand what we were trying to do, and the way NA was setting the team out. People always said judge him after 10 games. After 10 games we were bottom. I feel I was well within my rights to criticise decisions that seemed strange to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 Where did I say he's made no mistakes this season? Enough to claim that he's definitely out of his depth like others have.....certainly not. I'm not making stuff up, when people pointed out that Adkins deserves time after back to back promotions, others said that it's no better than the likes of what McCarthy, Jewell etc achieved. we have won 2 games this season and thrown away so many points...lets see how the next few games go before declaring adkins is well up to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 Where did I say he's made no mistakes this season? Enough to claim that he's definitely out of his depth like others have.....certainly not. I'm not making stuff up, when people pointed out that Adkins deserves time after back to back promotions, others said that it's no better than the likes of what McCarthy, Jewell etc achieved. Well it isn't really, but why does that advocate replacing NA with one of those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 1. I wasn't at the games, but no I wouldn't have joined in. 2. No, I didn't find it strange as people see football in different ways. It's their opinion and they're allowed to have it!? I understand there are fans out there that would prefer to go down with NA at the helm than stay up with someone else. I get that. What I don't get is why people on these boards try to surpress opposing opinions. It's not something I would do, so why do others. My agenda is simple. I want Saints to be as succesful as popular. The first 10 games of the season I didn't understand what we were trying to do, and the way NA was setting the team out. People always said judge him after 10 games. After 10 games we were bottom. I feel I was well within my rights to criticise decisions that seemed strange to me. Makes sense - cheers fella. The second half v Spurs (after terrible 1st) and the last two matches have been a big improvement so we are on the right track. Having been at Loftus Rd the one difference between the teams was desire and teamwork - we wanted it more than them, both on the pitch and in the stands, and a lot of that is down to the Manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 I'm confused I thought Nicola was our Manager with his Les Reed his Assistant and Nigel just a Coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 Just asking whats changed in two weeks when some people were so sure Adkins is out of his depth and decided to tell us all at every opportunity. Opinion can't of changed on the basis of one win surely? That would be really dumb wouldn't it Karckers? I don't think you understood the threads, or didn't read them properly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 19 November, 2012 Author Share Posted 19 November, 2012 we have won 2 games this season and thrown away so many points...lets see how the next few games go before declaring adkins is well up to it Yea, better to wait a while before declaring something like we will definitely be relegated by Easter or whatever if we keep Adkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 Makes sense - cheers fella. The second half v Spurs (after terrible 1st) and the last two matches have been a big improvement so we are on the right track. Having been at Loftus Rd the one difference between the teams was desire and teamwork - we wanted it more than them, both on the pitch and in the stands, and a lot of that is down to the Manager. Completely, we have improved immeasurably, and I am much happier for it and I agree that NA's positivity has to help a lot. By the way, amazing support Saturday, proper kept the team going! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 Yea, better to wait a while before declaring something like we will definitely be relegated by Easter or whatever if we keep Adkins. as it stands, we will..we have been terrible bar playing the two other worst teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 19 November, 2012 Author Share Posted 19 November, 2012 (edited) I don't think you understood the threads, or didn't read them properly... That must have been it: Out of his depth Originally Posted by Dibden Purlieu Saint Should be game over. Originally Posted by Dibden Purlieu Saint Nicola, you need to make the decision to sack Adkins, and do it now. Originally Posted by Dibden Purlieu Saint there is nothing he can do about our defence, and how bad they are. Originally Posted by Dibden Purlieu Saint I would take Redknapp Originally Posted by Dibden Purlieu Saint I can't believe that Adkins is such a fanny Originally Posted by Dibden Purlieu Saint the buck has to stop with the Manager Edited 19 November, 2012 by Dig Dig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 This thread is largely pointless. I think the OP is trying to stir up trouble with the Forum hardmen, but failing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 I'm confused I thought Nicola was our Manager with his Les Reed his Assistant and Nigel just a Coach? Nigel is in charge when we win. Nicola and Les are in charge when we lose. HTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 19 November, 2012 Author Share Posted 19 November, 2012 as it stands, we will..we have been terrible bar playing the two other worst teams We're on course for a relegation fight, the most likely outcome going into this season. Unless of course you thought that this league is easy and that we should be sitting comfortably around mid table? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 This thread is largely pointless. I think the OP is trying to stir up trouble with the Forum hardmen, but failing. I'm still not sure who its aimed at, other than Delldays and DPS. I've read a couple of previous threads of a similar subject and failed to find any other concerted "Adkins Out" movement. Most other views acknowledge that the manager (amongst others) has made mistakes ( and quite a few of them) but hope that he can be the man to turn us around. Most odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 Who the hell advocated the appointment of those Managers? Nigel has changed his obsession with trying to shoehorn in Rodriguez, has stopped subbing our best players, and has stopped trying to be too clever, the main things that we have been advocating. He is learning from his mistakes and the performances are MUCH better. So no, why would more threads appear. IF he goes back to making basic errors then yes, more threads may appear. Pretty simple really. Er, I'd say he's changed absolutely NOTHING in the past match that he wasn't doing on a regular basis in all of the others. His "errors" you perceived then were not "errors", just as his error to take off the influential Ramirez on Saturday and replace him with the limited but enthusiastic Steven Davis wasn't an error - though it looked "interesting" at the time, Davis' play-breaking and use of the ball was a significant factor in our failure to capitulate. Was replacing Shaw with Fox not an "error" on Saturday but was one against Swansea ? Hindsight's a great thing isn't it ? The only thing that's changed is the ability of the opposition, and some of us have been pretty confident all along that we're not in the worst 3 teams in the division. Anyone who was critical before but is supportive now is a massive knee-jerking hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 We're on course for a relegation fight, the most likely outcome going into this season. Unless of course you thought that this league is easy and that we should be sitting comfortably around mid table? not too sure what your point is...we have been woeful too many times this season..1 win against the bottom side does make everything alright...we still have a loony in goal...we still are soft at the back and it will cost us big time to come yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 19 November, 2012 Author Share Posted 19 November, 2012 I'm still not sure who its aimed at, other than Delldays and DPS. I've read a couple of previous threads of a similar subject and failed to find any other concerted "Adkins Out" movement. Most other views acknowledge that the manager (amongst others) has made mistakes ( and quite a few of them) but hope that he can be the man to turn us around. Most odd. I said a vocal minority Krackers in the OP. There are more on here than just the two you have mentioned. How many does it have to be in order for it to be reasonable to start a thread about them? I've had to read page after page of their guff for weeks now, surely people can handle one thread of mine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 That must have been it: Out of his depth Originally Posted by Dibden Purlieu Saint Should be game over. Originally Posted by Dibden Purlieu Saint Nicola, you need to make the decision to sack Adkins, and do it now. Originally Posted by Dibden Purlieu Saint there is nothing he can do about our defence, and how bad they are. Originally Posted by Dibden Purlieu Saint I would take Redknapp Originally Posted by Dibden Purlieu Saint I can't believe that Adkins is such a fanny Originally Posted by Dibden Purlieu Saint the buck has to stop with the Manager Did I write 'fanny', I can't believe I used that word, very unlike me... But did you read the threads and the points behind them. He was out of his depth as he wasn't learning from his mistakes. He had also displayed no recognition of the mistakes he was making, so I believe Nic needed to act decisively. I still don't believe he has sorted out our defence, do you? I would have taken Redknapp and still would. The buck does have to stop with the manager, it always does in football. I don't understand what your point is? Where did I mention those Managers above? If you haven't noticed we are still in the bottom 3. I have just complimented the Manager on his change of direction and the fact that it seems to have worked. I am by no means saying that we are safe or anything, but it does seem that NA is now making the correct decisions (all imho of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 I said a vocal minority Krackers in the OP. There are more on here than just the two you have mentioned. How many does it have to be in order for it to be reasonable to start a thread about them? I've had to read page after page of their guff for weeks now, surely people can handle one thread of mine? I think its reasonable to start a thread whenever you want, Diggers. I just wasn't sure who it was aimed at, or how many people. I've criticised NA this season, and justifiably so IMO. I've also said that I hope he's the man to turn us around as I think he's brilliant; and thankfully that seems to be a common view. i don't even know what point I'm trying to make. I'm a bit confused; maybe I'll go and have some lunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 Er, I'd say he's changed absolutely NOTHING in the past match that he wasn't doing on a regular basis in all of the others. His "errors" you perceived then were not "errors", just as his error to take off the influential Ramirez on Saturday and replace him with the limited but enthusiastic Steven Davis wasn't an error - though it looked "interesting" at the time, Davis' play-breaking and use of the ball was a significant factor in our failure to capitulate. Was replacing Shaw with Fox not an "error" on Saturday but was one against Swansea ? Hindsight's a great thing isn't it ? The only thing that's changed is the ability of the opposition, and some of us have been pretty confident all along that we're not in the worst 3 teams in the division. Anyone who was critical before but is supportive now is a massive knee-jerking hypocrite. I didn't criticise against Swansea I don't think, so find this confusing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 not too sure what your point is...we have been woeful too many times this season..1 win against the bottom side does make everything alright...we still have a loony in goal...we still are soft at the back and it will cost us big time to come yet Just probably not until we have to play Arsenal on December 29th because the lower teams won't give us as many problems as the top half ones did ? The only thing I can see Adkins doing any different at the moment is putting Hooiveld in for Yoshida, Shaw's looking like a fixture after some decent performances (hey, maybe he was ill against Stevenage after all...) and Adkins has said he's going for stability at the back so it's unlikely he won't give Yoshida a decent crack, as presumably Adkins thinks that he's got quality and it will come through despite his tangible uncertainty in every match (including QPR) so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 Fairly surprised this shameless thread of trolling and "told you so"-ing by DigDig is being permitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkiesaint Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 I called for NA to get the sack after the WBA game. Worse start in premier league history, coupled with naive defending, strange substitutions. Personally I think NA underestimated the required quality, preferring to get fitter people on the pitch even if they were less experienced, or not as able. The set up of the team was wrong, and presumably under NA's control. Even if he does turn it around (which I hope he does incidentally!), it will be after a series of errors that would have cost any other manager his job. We have beaten the two other teams in the relegation zone which is great, and looked great going forward against QPR. Now we have to start beating the better sides to stand a chance. The Reading win has given me more hope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 19 November, 2012 Author Share Posted 19 November, 2012 not too sure what your point is...we have been woeful too many times this season..1 win against the bottom side does make everything alright...we still have a loony in goal...we still are soft at the back and it will cost us big time to come yet the "loony" who has been in goal for all the points we have got so far this season? Every team in a relegation battle typically has a soft defence. Many teams in the league do. Long way to go.....that's the point most people get. Not you however, ours and Adkins fate was sealed after about week 5 of the season and you've made sure everyone knows about it since then. Don't stop now though, stick to your convictions and see it through to Easter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 I said a vocal minority Krackers in the OP. There are more on here than just the two you have mentioned. How many does it have to be in order for it to be reasonable to start a thread about them? I've had to read page after page of their guff for weeks now, surely people can handle one thread of mine? How many? Plenty apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 the "loony" who has been in goal for all the points we have got so far this season? Every team in a relegation battle typically has a soft defence. Many teams in the league do. Long way to go.....that's the point most people get. Not you however, ours and Adkins fate was sealed after about week 5 of the season and you've made sure everyone knows about it since then. Don't stop now though, stick to your convictions and see it through to Easter. oh well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 Just probably not until we have to play Arsenal on December 29th because the lower teams won't give us as many problems as the top half ones did ? The only thing I can see Adkins doing any different at the moment is putting Hooiveld in for Yoshida, Shaw's looking like a fixture after some decent performances (hey, maybe he was ill against Stevenage after all...) and Adkins has said he's going for stability at the back so it's unlikely he won't give Yoshida a decent crack, as presumably Adkins thinks that he's got quality and it will come through despite his tangible uncertainty in every match (including QPR) so far. No shoehorning Rodriguez in, bringing on Guly when not needed etc? You haven't noticed that? I'm not saying we're fixed. Far, far from it. But Adkins has changed his selections and decisions. What we don't know is what changed this attitude of actually playing to our strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 19 November, 2012 Share Posted 19 November, 2012 Who the hell advocated the appointment of those Managers? Nigel has changed his obsession with trying to shoehorn in Rodriguez, has stopped subbing our best players, and has stopped trying to be too clever, the main things that we have been advocating. He is learning from his mistakes and the performances are MUCH better. So no, why would more threads appear. IF he goes back to making basic errors then yes, more threads may appear. Pretty simple really. ...which is what many of us said would happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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