Lambert pure class

[The9]

Lambert was oustanding against Swansea. I suppose that went unnoticed by those people who want to replace a guys who has scored 5 goals in 12 games - and didn't even start in some of them....

 

Y'see, what I saw in that match was a player who, if he'd been able to run for through balls, would have got a hat-trick.

[Pat from Poole]

Y'see, what I saw in that match was a player who, if he'd been able to run for through balls, would have got a hat-trick.

 

 

Dream on. A player with Lambert's attributes PLUS pace would be worth over £30 million.

[up and away]

Defenders usually climb all over him to win 50/50's, it's been happening for years and referee's just let it go. Ferdinand was no exception Yesterday and did this a number of times, so glad it was him who scored the OG.

Ricky is winning a lot more free kicks in the Premier than he ever did previously. Saints are very effective in how they go about winning free kicks and tackles now adays, one of the best going. If the referee looks up and sees Ricky backing in to the defender one minute, then having him come over the his back the next minute it should come as no surprise that the referee does not ping it. As far as he knows both players are at it and best to let anything go unless forced into a decision. If all the referee sees is one player continually shirt pulling they will give penalties because they are far more certain where the blame lies. I like the way we steal the ball from the oppsition by just poking the ball through the legs onto one of our own players, no drama and so effective.When the referees and linesmen come to the club in pre-season they explain this to all the players and coaching staff, nice to see we have taken such things on board to give us an edge.

[Legod Third Coming]

Y'see, what I saw in that match was a player who, if he'd been able to run for through balls, would have got a hat-trick.

 

Start going with your eyes open then. HTH.

[The9]

Dream on. A player with Lambert's attributes PLUS pace would be worth over £30 million.

 

He'd be worth about when KEN~!!! went for when we sold him, then. Before he fell asleep for 4 years at Stoke.

[shurlock]

Ricky is winning a lot more free kicks in the Premier than he ever did previously. Saints are very effective in how they go about winning free kicks and tackles now adays, one of the best going. If the referee looks up and sees Ricky backing in to the defender one minute, then having him come over the his back the next minute it should come as no surprise that the referee does not ping it. As far as he knows both players are at it and best to let anything go unless forced into a decision. If all the referee sees is one player continually shirt pulling they will give penalties because they are far more certain where the blame lies. I like the way we steal the ball from the oppsition by just poking the ball through the legs onto one of our own players, no drama and so effective.When the referees and linesmen come to the club in pre-season they explain this to all the players and coaching staff, nice to see we have taken such things on board to give us an edge.

 

What's this based on? Rickie gets zero protection from refs in the prem - its the same story as before. Dont know why- perhaps because he doesn't appear to jump/compete for many balls but defenders continue to get away with murder.

[The9]

Start going with your eyes open then. HTH.

 

But that would be the match where I was specifically watching Lambert's supposedly superb workrate off the ball as a result of someone telling me I was talking garbage about his workrate, so actually I was watching him very closely. And contrary to all the claims about his workrate, he mostly ambled around for as long as he was on the pitch, occasionally half-paced jogging towards the player with the ball, only found himself in defence for the corners (and the minute or so it took him to get back up front afterwards) and definitely didn't get on the end of anything that wasn't right at him.

 

And that's fine against Championship or struggling Prem sides. I've also noticed his usually excellent passing has been a bit off the last month or so, can happen to anyone, but that's the significant bit of his game that isn't hitting the ball well or winning headers.

 

Or is everyone genuinely saying he's been at his very best over the past 5 or so matches, in which case I think you're all certifiable ?

[tajjuk]

Whoscored.com rated him as our best player on Saturday - http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/615031/Live, despite only having a 67% pass success rate. 5 key passes, 3 shots, 3 on target, 1 goal, even 1 succesful dribble. 5 aerial duels won.

 

The point above is apt, he doesn't always bust a gut to get into the box for whatever reason, and if he isn't going to do that he needs to stop difting out wide. Several time son saturday he linked play well, got the ball to another player in the final third but pretty much stayed where he was, when really we need him in the box because any half chances and he'll probably score. Not being that mobile he needs to stay centrally and be in the box as much as possible.

[OldNick]

He was good at knocking the ball down (complete unshock there) but some of his passing around the box was woeful on Saturday - which I hasten to add is pretty out of character for Lambert. Not sure any of his "interplay" was of any note either. He was most definitely not "pure class", though "competent target man" wouldn't have been far from the mark.

Obviously not in your class The9, but i feel so much of his stuff is not appreciated. His instant control and lay offs were pure class, he can control a ball instantly. I believe he was superb saturday and feel he should be the first player on the teamsheet. I dont think we have another player in the team who would have put his head in danger for the first goal (perhaps Jos)

[suewhistle]

The header down for Puncheon's missed chance was the classiest ball of the whole game. Took the power off it, the pace of it, cleaend the ball, inflated it a pound, gift-wrapped it and handed it to Punch on a plate with a salad garnish and hint of Balsamic vinegar and pure extra virgin olive oil...

 

Watching the highlights you can also hear the shout "Ricky", so he was actually doing it to order as well!

[Village Saint]

Your right its all about opinions but I think the fact that's he's always gonna be known as a saints legend clouds judgement and by Ricky's standards that wasn't his best game even the commentators said he seemed a little slow as he missed the target by some distance on a couple if chances that he'd normally have buried I'm not by any means saying he isn't a great player

 

Therein lies the clue. 'The commentators'. Those who were actually there saw an immense man of the match performance. Clearly he has benefited from being left out when he wasn't quite at the races. What he particularly showed is that a lack of searing pace on the ground is not that important even in the Prem if you are quick where it really matters - with the brain. He was pivotal in that respect in the two 9 or 10 pass moves around the box that set up chances for Puncheon

[Pat from Poole]

He'd be worth about when KEN~!!! went for when we sold him, then. Before he fell asleep for 4 years at Stoke.

 

 

There's a massive difference in skill and all-round awareness between KEN~!!! and Lambert. Not to mention character and loyalty to the cause etc.

[up and away]

What's this based on? Rickie gets zero protection from refs in the prem - its the same story as before. Dont know why- perhaps because he doesn't appear to jump/compete for many balls but defenders continue to get away with murder.

 

Both the Manchester clubs, ManU especially, you have not forgotten so soon? As I said, it's a differenent matter if the referee looks up and finds both of you going in turns at each other. Who do you find at fault with two fish wives fighting! best not too even come up with a winner.

[skintsaint]

He done well for a guy who jogs around more than MLT did thats fo' sure!

[Legod Third Coming]

He done well for a guy who jogs around more than MLT did thats fo' sure!

 

Five goals in 12 Premiership games - in which he didn't start what three? So five goals in nine starts.

 

And people want more.

 

Really?

 

Get a fecking reality check.

[skintsaint]

Five goals in 12 Premiership games - in which he didn't start what three? So five goals in nine starts.

 

And people want more.

 

Really?

 

Get a fecking reality check.

 

lol....I missed my winky thing but even so it easily reads as tongue in cheek.

[Mr X]

Therein lies the clue. 'The commentators'. Those who were actually there saw an immense man of the match performance. Clearly he has benefited from being left out when he wasn't quite at the races. What he particularly showed is that a lack of searing pace on the ground is not that important even in the Prem if you are quick where it really matters - with the brain. He was pivotal in that respect in the two 9 or 10 pass moves around the box that set up chances for Puncheon

 

 

You see nothing more from being there in fact you see less you do however get a massively different atmosphere

[The9]

Obviously not in your class The9, but i feel so much of his stuff is not appreciated. His instant control and lay offs were pure class, he can control a ball instantly. I believe he was superb saturday and feel he should be the first player on the teamsheet. I dont think we have another player in the team who would have put his head in danger for the first goal (perhaps Jos)

 

I'd be embarrassed as a manager to have to think that. I'd expect absolutely every player from 1-42 to not even think about going in for it with an easy goal on the line. We clearly have very different standards for, ahem, "bravery".

 

Lolz at "not in my class". You're not wrong, though I suspect not in the same way people might think. I think he'd probably do ok with the space I was getting that day, though I'm not sure he'd have got away from the defenders.

 

I was at the match and Lambert's passing was noticeably poor on the weekend compared to his usual standards. Hearing that he only won 5 headers makes the stuff about him bossing the defence seem rather unfeasible. Also, it's a lot easier to play key passes when you're in the key area of the pitch.

[The9]

You see nothing more from being there in fact you see less you do however get a massively different atmosphere

 

I was there and I certainly didn't see Lambert have a "man of the match" performance. Actually I thought Puncheon was comfortably better.

[The9]

There's a massive difference in skill and all-round awareness between KEN~!!! and Lambert. Not to mention character and loyalty to the cause etc.

 

I see two blokes who have a decent shot, are strong in the air, drop deep, play the ball out wide and amble into the box. Main difference is that one of them will still be doing it in 6 or 7 years and the other won't.

[redder freak]

He looked brilliant on the extended highlights. From what people are saying who were at the match, that flattered him.

[rooney]

Rickie is the best CF we have had since Beattie in his prime except that his first touch is superb. His knock downs and movement off the ball are a joy to watch.

[OldNick]

I'd be embarrassed as a manager to have to think that. I'd expect absolutely every player from 1-42 to not even think about going in for it with an easy goal on the line. We clearly have very different standards for, ahem, "bravery".

 

Lolz at "not in my class". You're not wrong, though I suspect not in the same way people might think. I think he'd probably do ok with the space I was getting that day, though I'm not sure he'd have got away from the defenders.

 

I was at the match and Lambert's passing was noticeably poor on the weekend compared to his usual standards. Hearing that he only won 5 headers makes the stuff about him bossing the defence seem rather unfeasible. Also, it's a lot easier to play key passes when you're in the key area of the pitch.

Do you really think all our players would put their head where it hurts/ i do not have the same confidence.

I did not go to the match but watched the whole game on Sky. different perhaps and agree he did not dominate the back 4 all game, but it was when he had the ball and won the headers that impressed. I saw the best British centre forward play for us in the late 60's and 70's and he did not win everything (how people expect a forward to win the majority of balls played in is a surprise, as IMO the defender normally has the advantage) and Rl heading ability is the closest I have seen since. he is better on the ground than Big Ron was. Of course Dowie won a lot in the air but..... i do rate Kenwynne as well by the way.

[Appy]

I'd be embarrassed as a manager to have to think that. I'd expect absolutely every player from 1-42 to not even think about going in for it with an easy goal on the line. We clearly have very different standards for, ahem, "bravery".

 

Lolz at "not in my class". You're not wrong, though I suspect not in the same way people might think. I think he'd probably do ok with the space I was getting that day, though I'm not sure he'd have got away from the defenders.

 

I was at the match and Lambert's passing was noticeably poor on the weekend compared to his usual standards. Hearing that he only won 5 headers makes the stuff about him bossing the defence seem rather unfeasible. Also, it's a lot easier to play key passes when you're in the key area of the pitch.

 

Shock.

[Ian the Red]

I find totally laughable when people say Ricky is not match fit. What a load of b$%^ocks!!! He is not a sprinter, he lacks pace, that does not make him unfit!! He was dropped, mistakenly, by NA for tactical reason that did not pay off. He holds the ball up better than anyone else; he lays the ball off better than anyone else; creates more chances for other players and on top of that he is our highest scorer. What is wrong with people? Without RL we would not have a single point. He is our most dangerous asset.

[Roger]

I see two blokes who have a decent shot, are strong in the air, drop deep, play the ball out wide and amble into the box. Main difference is that one of them will still be doing it in 6 or 7 years and the other won't.

 

God you say I'm deluded about Lambert but u seem obsessed with him. You haven't got a clue.

[ottery st mary]

Lambert is top class and sooooo pleased he is in our team..

 

In my view ..he is improving all the time..one to watch this season...

 

I spoke to an expert on centre forward play and he has watched him closely and said some of our posters have no idea whatsoever..

 

Class:p

[Legod Third Coming]

lol....I missed my winky thing but even so it easily reads as tongue in cheek.

 

I know my friend I was agreeing with you! That was my point...

[doddisalegend]

Well I'm quite amused to see Lambert is currently out scoring Torres in the PL top scoreres league that would be quite funny if it stays the same until the end of the season....................