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trousers

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Lawro predicts 2-1 to Saints...

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20443753

 

Southampton v Newcastle

 

All of a sudden it seems Newcastle cannot win a game and their manager Alan Pardew keeps getting fresh injuries to deal with too - the latest one being another key player in Yohan Cabaye.

 

So Pardew has a lot to contend with as he goes back to St Mary's and one of his former clubs - Southampton sacked him after they had beaten Bristol Rovers 4-0 in August 2010, when they were a League One club.

 

He would obviously love to go back and win but I don't see it happening.

I was really impressed by Saints in their win over QPR last week - they were really clever in that they heaped the pressure on Rangers and dominated the game in all areas. They were good to watch, too.

 

Saints handled the pressure of the whole day so well, and they were probably sat in the dressing room afterwards saying: "You know what, we can win games in this league."

 

Sometimes, teams have turning points in seasons. I just wonder if that might have been one for them.

 

I am not sure about Southampton keeper Paulo Gazzaniga, though. He got away with a couple of mistakes at Loftus Road and time will tell whether he is up to the standard required for the Premier League.

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tajjuk

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So 10 injuries AND Collocini suspended, AND they will be knackered from playing on only two days before AND they are in poor form AND we are at home.

 

Pretty much set up for a spectacular fail on our part then :lol:

 

Serious questions though if we can't beat a Newcastle side missing Cisse, Ben Arfa, Cabaye, Collocini and Gutierrez, pretty much half their first choice line up. Imagine our team without Lambert, Lallana, Morgan, Gaston & Fonte :scared:

 

I reckon they will likely line up - Krul, Santon, Simpson, Williamson, Taylor, Tiote, Anita, Bigirama, Marveux, Ba, Sa Ameobi.

 

All except Tiote and Williamson played last night as well.

Charlie Wayman

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Of course it is sad that a very depleted magpies side will travel down on Sunday.. ha,ha,ha... he,he,he... ho,ho,ho. If we give Pards a huge south coast welcome that might knock his concentration as well so what's not to like?

 

The weather will probably mean a wash-out 'though, the SMS pitch as close as it is to the river will be very prone to flooding especially if the tide is in during the match. To be frank, it may not be worth going up at all as we'll all get drowned on the way even before the game is called-off - according to the BBC.

S-Clarke

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So 10 injuries AND Collocini suspended, AND they will be knackered from playing on only two days before AND they are in poor form AND we are at home.

 

Pretty much set up for a spectacular fail on our part then :lol:

 

Serious questions though if we can't beat a Newcastle side missing Cisse, Ben Arfa, Cabaye, Collocini and Gutierrez, pretty much half their first choice line up. Imagine our team without Lambert, Lallana, Morgan, Gaston & Fonte :scared:

 

I reckon they will likely line up - Krul, Santon, Simpson, Williamson, Taylor, Tiote, Anita, Bigirama, Marveux, Ba, Sa Ameobi.

 

All except Tiote and Williamson played last night as well.

 

That's an important point....most teams struggle in the weekend games, if it's the same as the European squad. But most teams would have the ability to tweak it around so it isn't too problematic in the league game...but Newcastle can't do it at all. They will be without all their key players down the spine of their team, and they will be exhausted (and the European game was away...)

 

I would agree with everyone else s view, there is never a better time to play them. If we can't beat them with this lineup then we'll never beat them.

 

Stranger things have happened though, but with our new found confidence and their poor form, it's kind of pointing in the right direction...

tajjuk

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They were at home so no travelling for them, however they couldn't really rotate, even Ba had to be pressed into action because of the Cisse injury and they struggled to a draw against Maritomo team that "yet to take a point or score a goal away from home in the competition." so we certainly should be fresher, we need to be right at them from the off to take advantage of any sluggishness they might have.

jasoneuelllfanclub

jasoneuelllfanclub

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That's an important point....most teams struggle in the weekend games, if it's the same as the European squad. But most teams would have the ability to tweak it around so it isn't too problematic in the league game...but Newcastle can't do it at all. They will be without all their key players down the spine of their team, and they will be exhausted (and the European game was away...)

 

I would agree with everyone else s view, there is never a better time to play them. If we can't beat them with this lineup then we'll never beat them.

 

Stranger things have happened though, but with our new found confidence and their poor form, it's kind of pointing in the right direction...

 

Newcastle played at home last night. take your point though, we could ask for better time to play them. Just hope we dont become complacent as they still have decent players upfront.

jasoneuelllfanclub

jasoneuelllfanclub

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Of course it is sad that a very depleted magpies side will travel down on Sunday.. ha,ha,ha... he,he,he... ho,ho,ho. If we give Pards a huge south coast welcome that might knock his concentration as well so what's not to like?

 

The weather will probably mean a wash-out 'though, the SMS pitch as close as it is to the river will be very prone to flooding especially if the tide is in during the match. To be frank, it may not be worth going up at all as we'll all get drowned on the way even before the game is called-off - according to the BBC.

 

Not sure if your trying to be funny or not but weather is fine on sunday. game will go ahead.

Charlie Wayman

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Not sure if your trying to be funny or not but weather is fine on sunday. game will go ahead.

 

No actually that bit was quite serious. According to the BBC we will be 'dumped' on big time this weekend, torrentail rain, gale force winds and flooding.

Jack

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No actually that bit was quite serious. According to the BBC we will be 'dumped' on big time this weekend, torrentail rain, gale force winds and flooding.

 

Met Office app is saying heavy rain on Saturday, but Sunday will be dry and bright. Nothing to see here.

max_saints

max_saints

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Newcastle's record away against us:

2004/05: Won 2-1 OG, Carr

2003/04: Drew 3-3 Ameobi, Bowyer, Ambrose

2002/03: Drew 1-1 Bellamy

2001/02: Lost 1-3 Shearer

2000/01: Lost 0-2 No scorer

1999/00: Lost 2-4 Shearer, Speed

1998/99: Lost 1-2 Hamann

1997/98: Lost 1-2 Lee

1996/97: Drew 2-2 Ferdinand, Clark

1995/96: Lost 0-1 No scorer

1994/95: Lost 1-3 Kitson

1993/94: Lost 1-2 Cole

1988/89: Lost 0-1 No scorer

1987/88: Drew 1-1 O'Neill

1986/87: Lost 1-4 A.Thomas

1985/86: Drew 1-1 Beardsley

1984/85: Lost 0-1 No scorer

1973/74: Lost 1-3 Macdonald

1972/73: Drew 1-1 Barrowclough

 

Wouldn't mind a win/draw. really need to go on a really good run with the upcoming games to get over our poor start to the season, i predict an unchanged line-up again. coyr!

Saint Charlie

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key player or easily replaced? come on you old tease.

 

We don't have many that are easily replaced. Big blow considering the Norwich game is so close too.

 

Bet its either Lallana, Lambert or Ramirez.

Window Cleaner

Window Cleaner

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We don't have many that are easily replaced. Big blow considering the Norwich game is so close too.

 

Bet its either Lallana, Lambert or Ramirez.

 

I'd put them all in the replaceable category. For me Morgan,Corky,José,Clyne and Yoshi are in the other category.

hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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I'd put them all in the replaceable category. For me Morgan,Corky,José,Clyne and Yoshi are in the other category.

 

Yep agree with that. Any injury is a blow but we can survive without Lambert or ramirez certainly.

Saint Charlie

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Yep agree with that. Any injury is a blow but we can survive without Lambert or ramirez certainly.

 

We only have one point this season without Ramirez. Agree though any defender would be a loss apart from Shaw arguably. Central mid we can handle I think, and have some decent players to come in there compared to other areas.

 

Gazza, Shaw or Puncheon would harm us least IMO.

Window Cleaner

Window Cleaner

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Yep agree with that. Any injury is a blow but we can survive without Lambert or ramirez certainly.

 

In fact whilst not dissing Lambert it might be good to see what JRod could do without having the extra pressure of replacing a dropped Lambert. Lallana you can shuffle the midfield around a bit and Ramirez hasn't played enough games to be unreplaceable although a system change might be required again..

Jack

Jack

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Shame we won't have an unchanged team after yet another injury in training. :(

 

What the f*ck is the point in posting that? Attention seeking, trying to show you're ITK.

MOSaint

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Cork or Stephens, take your pick. I'd go Stephens myself leaving Corky in midfield

 

I think it may be a case of wishful thinking re; Stephens considering Adkins wouldn't even play him in the League Cup, Adkins preferred Butterfield in those games.

 

Butterfield at RB in the Premier League is a chilling prospect.

Window Cleaner

Window Cleaner

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I think it may be a case of wishful thinking re; Stephens considering Adkins wouldn't even play him in the League Cup, Adkins preferred Butterfield in those games.

 

Butterfield at RB in the Premier League is a chilling prospect.

 

 

We put out our jokest side at Leeds, we had no interest in winning whatsoever, probably some sort of contractual thing.

VectisSaint

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We don't have many that are easily replaced. Big blow considering the Norwich game is so close too.

 

Bet its either Lallana, Lambert or Ramirez.

All easily replaceable, Guly would be your man.

Mowgli

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I'd put them all in the replaceable category. For me Morgan,Corky,José,Clyne and Yoshi are in the other category.

 

You'll be pleased to know Cork and Clyne are both doing the press conference this afternoon so likely to play.

Jimmy_D

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I assume Pardew will get a decent response from us?

 

He won us the only trophy I've been alive to see us win.

 

I'll certainly be giving him a good welcome.

CWD

CWD

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@officialsaints: Nigel Adkins says there are no new injuries to his squad ahead of Sunday's visit of @NUFCOfficial. #saintsfc

trousers

trousers

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NA is always very coy with injuries though - usually you can spot who is missing from Saints Player, or THEVMAN might tell us.

 

Adkins has been less obtuse this season compared to the last two IMO

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