Sikh Police officers

[Turkish]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1268060/Sikh-police-officers-remove-turbans-join-firearms-units.html

 

Where do we stand on this?

[Thedelldays]

Simple. They do it or they don't bother with the job

[Dig Dig]

can't they celetape the turbans to the top of the helmet?

[Turkish]

Simple. They do it or they don't bother with the job

 

What about their rights and freedom to choose if they want to wear one or not?

[View From The Top]

They either wear the lid or don't do the job. Simple.

[View From The Top]

What about their rights and freedom to choose if they want to wear one or not?

 

Just asked the three Sikhs I work with. They agree with my view point.

[The Kraken]

What about their rights and freedom to choose if they want to wear one or not?

 

Religious symbology has no place within a uniform.

[Thedelldays]

Just find it ridiculous. There is a uniform, it is the same dot everyone

 

Wear it or don't have the job. What ever job it is

[Kingsbridge Saint]

I see there is a dispensation for motor cycle helmets. Should be the same with the police. It's the individuals risk. In my view the establishment has fulfilled it's OHS obligation by providing the helmet. I know the law doesn't see it that way though. The law needs changing.

[Thedelldays]

I see there is a dispensation for motor cycle helmets. Should be the same with the police. It's the individuals risk. In my view the establishment has fulfilled it's OHS obligation by providing the helmet. I know the law doesn't see it that way though. The law needs changing.

 

No, there is a uniform that is the same for everyone

 

Wear it or find another job

[Turkish]

can't they celetape the turbans to the top of the helmet?

 

Should they not develop a bullet proof turban?

[Hatch]

Being ignorant on Sikhs beliefs, do they regard the right to wear a turban over and above the rights of the person they are just about to shoot?

[norwaysaint]

Yep, too much respect is given to choices of faith and people believe the world should bend around them, when clearly it should be the other way around. Sometimes your religious belief might close certain choices for you. Following a religious code means making sacrifices.

 

I think most sensible people can see this, including religious people.

[Turkish]

I worked with a bloke a few years back who was asked to bid on a contract to supply about £1.5m worth of IT equipement and services to the army. He refused on relgious grounds say it was against his religion to support violence or war and his concious wouldn't allow him to supply equipment and services to a military organisation. Very odd i thought, someone else bid, won it and it was worth about £40k in commission to them over the term of the contact.

[norwaysaint]

That all sounds fair enough to me.

[Dig Dig]

Should they not develop a bullet proof turban?

 

That can be done quite easily with a good solid coating of paper mache

[Turkish]

I admire his principles but considering the amount of money it cost him and the fact that whilst it was going into a military environment it wasn't actually responsible for killing people, more making sure the squaddies could get WIFI on their lap tops and so on i found it a little strange.

[Chez]

Is it just me that can't get that only fools and horses episode out of their heads where del tries to invent the turban motorcycle helmet out of a horse riding hats?

[Tokyo-Saint]

[Viking Warrior]

Not a new story. There will be a compromise.

 

if a sikh policeman does not want o wear a turban when training or being deployed, he should sign a waver form and if something happens like being shot in the head he or his family would loose the rite to sue the police for not ensuring health and safety etc was complied with. Either you use the equipment or suffer the consequences of injury without compensation claims being made

[Dig Dig]

 

Perfect. A bit of paper mache and glue coating and you're good for battle.

[eurosaint]

The Sikh religion is one of the most open minded that I (personally) have come across and I am good friends with a couple of Sikh guys who view this story in the same way as we would do with representatives of any minority quango which is out to make a name for themselves !

When it comes to gay rights, black police associations etc.. you often find that the 'silent majority' of their type, really don't give a monkeys, but the leaders of their groups make a huge issue out of something which can normally be resolved with just a bit of common sense, rather than the sensationalist headlines that they seem to thrive on !!

[CB Saint]

The Sikh religion is one of the most open minded that I (personally) have come across and I am good friends with a couple of Sikh guys who view this story in the same way as we would do with representatives of any minority quango which is out to make a name for themselves !

When it comes to gay rights, black police associations etc.. you often find that the 'silent majority' of their type, really don't give a monkeys, but the leaders of their groups make a huge issue out of something which can normally be resolved with just a bit of common sense, rather than the sensationalist headlines that they seem to thrive on !!

 

A bit like this society for black lawyers chap who seems to be enjoying his five minutes of fame re the fa racism claims.

[Secret Site Agent]

We have had this for years in the construction industry with Sikhs, and a lot of the wear the hard hat with their hair inside the hat and protective mesh, as they understand the risk, but some choose not to, and they DO sign to identify they accept the risk. the biggest problem we have had is with Rastafarians who can'tr wear one, but who with some clients aren't allowed the choice that Sikhs do.

[Smirking_Saint]

The way I see it is tgat religion is a concept that is slowly dieing, we all know deep down its a ton of crap.

 

If my belief was to get a daily blowjob at work do they have to accomodate it ?

 

Surely if your job gets in the way of your belief why would you apply for the job ?

[Smirking_Saint]

We have had this for years in the construction industry with Sikhs, and a lot of the wear the hard hat with their hair inside the hat and protective mesh, as they understand the risk, but some choose not to, and they DO sign to identify they accept the risk. the biggest problem we have had is with Rastafarians who can'tr wear one, but who with some clients aren't allowed the choice that Sikhs do.

 

Are they allowed to smoke pot on site ?