shane d Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 Maybe the game that could cost either there job come Sunday morning. In Nigel we trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 Hughes has had strong support from their chairman despite their poor start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 100% agree, can see this being last game for one of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane d Posted 15 November, 2012 Author Share Posted 15 November, 2012 Hughes has had strong support from their chairman despite their poor start. If we win, I don't think he will be getting anymore support from his chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 Hughes has had strong support from their chairman despite their poor start. Fernandes has certainly been more vocal in his support but ultimately both Chairmen have supported their respective managers the same, that is they are both still in a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshephard3 Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 You'd have to think that at this point in the season, if one of these guys loses on Saturday that's it. The point tally after a loss for either would strongly indicate relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 OK, so what if it's a draw? Just saying. PS: I don't think either will lose their jobs. It makes no sense whatsoever if you're trying to plan for long-term success and both clubs have the financial means to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 OK, so what if it's a draw? Just saying. PS: I don't think either will lose their jobs. It makes no sense whatsoever if you're trying to plan for long-term success and both clubs have the financial means to do so. It does make sense to stay up Are you saying we should have stuck with wigley or wotte.... In order to plan long term? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 I don't think Adkins would be sacked if we drew, but Hughes probably would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 It does make sense to stay up Are you saying we should have stuck with wigley or wotte.... In order to plan long term? Are you saying that Wigley or Wotte were able to deliver two back to back promotions? Don't be daft! Completely different scenarios. And all this b1tching about Champions league...blah...blah. There is a long-term plan at the club to be very successful - that might take several years to achieve - it might mean we go down while the club continues to grow organically from within. Remember, it's only 3 years since the take-over and there was a huge amount of re-building of the infrastructure of the club to be done. We've been promoted to the Prem earlier than anticipated - the club needs time to adjust. Be patient - get behind the club including the Manager and it will come good. Believe - who knows, it might happen - good things come to those who wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 So, if we go down and bounce back, do we then remove Adkins as he failed to deliver safety in prem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickyhale Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 Think this game got draw wrote all over it. If we sack Polly Anne Adkins who going to do a better job with the players we got???? Be patient - get behind the Manager we all knew it was going to be hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 So, if we go down and bounce back, do we then remove Adkins as he failed to deliver safety in prem? Eh? Of course not. Look, the key here is that stability does not have to be the enemy of success. Or to put it another way, there are two options to the CEO... 1. You panic and sack the Manager. That means bringing in another Manager who has to start again, probably wants to offload some players and buy new ones, train new tactics etc, all without the guarantee that it will come good eventually. A massive gamble. OR, 2. You stay calm and give the Manager that has demonstrably provided excellent sustained success over two seasons, a chance to sort out the squad and maintain the long-term push for more success. Long-term means just that - let's say 10 years for arguments sake. So providing the finances are right to enable a drop back to the Championship, why not let your tried and tested Manager travel the 10 year path with you? This is called strategy...it's what good business leaders do. That's not to say you do everything you can to support your Manager to retain Prem status, but the key to long-term sustained success is continuity and stability. If you want a perfect example of how not doing this works against you - I give you Saints under Lowe. If you want a perfect example of how this works incredibly well look at Man Ure with Fergie. Whether it will happen, who knows...but I want Nigel Adkins to be our Fergie. One thing's for sure - we'll never know unless he's given a decent crack at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 Thanks for telling me what strategy is I hope the strategy of the club is to stay in the prem this season, rather than already accepting defeat and relegation By the way, barely, if ever do managers take a team down and bounce straight back up... Reason being, they have masterminded defeat after defeat and that is hard to turn around with the status quo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 I don't think either will go if their sides taste defeat. Sacking Sparky will result in Fernandes having to part with at least a couple of million and giving Adkins the boot will worsen our situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 and giving Adkins the boot will worsen our situation. not to mention parting with a couple of million as well. NA has nigh on 3 years left on his contract, sacking him won't be cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 Hughes has had strong support from their chairman despite their poor start. Fernandes will look like a chump if he sacks Hughes anytime soon. Best not to say anything as with the Southampton Way TM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 Fernandes will look like a chump if he sacks Hughes anytime soon. Best not to say anything as with the Southampton Way TM Reckon if Hughes loses he will go. Although Redknapp has been linked they have an academy coach John Crisp who would also be in with a shout according to a mate of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 Reckon if Hughes loses he will go. Although Redknapp has been linked they have an academy coach John Crisp who would also be in with a shout according to a mate of mine. Hope so as it would be good for us. That guy is a first class idiot and known as a complete chimp within the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 I personally think QPR will be fine this season, even with Hughes in charge. They'll string together some results somewhere and they have the players to stay up with ease. Sacking Hughes will cost Fernandes a small fortune too. I still see relegation as being Reading, Us and one other. Sort the defence out in January and I may change my expectations of our fortunes, but it's really not looking too rosy. A poor defence is what cost us our place in this division the last time we were here, it is looking like that may happen again. Sad, but currently true. Will Adkins still be around at the end of the season? I really hope so. He's a likeable guy, intelligent and has done us proud over two seasons, but I really can't see it. I don't think he'll be sacked this weekend, even if we lose to QPR, but he can't have too long left unless results change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 Hope so as it would be good for us. That guy is a first class idiot and known as a complete chimp within the game. *messages society of black lawyers* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonroader07 Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 I think it will be a draw but the losing manager goes on Monday. Shame but reality I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 It does make sense to stay up Are you saying we should have stuck with wigley or wotte.... In order to plan long term? Are you seriously comparing Adkins to Wigley or Wotte?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 I think it will be a draw but the losing manager goes on Monday. Shame but reality I think I am confused - which one is the losing manager in a draw???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 Flyer has said that it's win or bye-bye for Sparky on Saturday, all via ITK sauces, and he's never been wrong on here has he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 and he's never been wrong on here has he? no idea but I don't doubt that they've got 'Arry lined up already ready to start on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 no idea but I don't doubt that they've got 'Arry lined up already ready to start on Sunday. That can't be right. Some posters insist NA has already been given notice and is due to go any day now, just as soon as a replacement can be found. If HR is lined up, he could start today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 That can't be right. Some posters insist NA has already been given notice and is due to go any day now, just as soon as a replacement can be found. If HR is lined up, he could start today. Indeed - how many times have some of our posters said Adkins' last game will be the next one? Next thing it'll be 'Cortese can't sack Adkins because he has it in his contract, just like Guly has to be played a certain number of times.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 I think Hughes is closer to the trap door than Nige. He's had a fair wedge of cash and a fair bit of time now so it's delivery time. Nige won't go even if we lose, he still needs more time IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaneNero Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 Yeah I agree. Cortese won't hack it if we lose. I just hope Adkins can do it. If he can turn it around............ come on NIGEL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 Simon Peach @SimonPeach Told Nigel Adkins some had dubbed #QPR v #SaintsFC as El Sackico. He absolutely loved it & couldn't stop laughing. Top bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 Flyer has said that it's win or bye-bye for Sparky on Saturday, all via ITK sauces, and he's never been wrong on here has he? It was direct from TF who said its a "must win game" so thats why everyone is saying he will be sacked. Nothing "ITK". Id prefer a draw over a win if thats true but the 2 favs for the job are Sven and arry which isnt exactly enticing. I was hoping you lot would hire arry before us. Id prefer Benitez myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 Id prefer Benitez myself. Like any of us bottom dwellers would interest Benitez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 Like any of us bottom dwellers would interest Benitez. £££££££ Talks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 Like any of us bottom dwellers would interest Benitez. He was 2nd favourite with one bookie for QPR and hughes is the 9th best paid manager in the world, he shouldnt even be the 9th best paid manager in the PL. Anyway one ITK says Hughes is gone if he doesnt win and another says hes gone Monday no matter what and 'arry is in, that will be a big relief to you lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 £££££££ Talks Not to blokes like Benitez. They want success, they've already got all the money they'll ever need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 yoyo....more people are coming around to my way of thinking. Told you back in June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 He was 2nd favourite with one bookie for QPR and hughes is the 9th best paid manager in the world, he shouldnt even be the 9th best paid manager in the PL. Anyway one ITK says Hughes is gone if he doesnt win and another says hes gone Monday no matter what and 'arry is in, that will be a big relief to you lot. Have posted before...Redknapp with your squad you stay up...Redknapp with our squad we still go down. Ok there have been some massive tactical cock ups but mistakes like Saturday are not going to disappear under a new manager. The problem here is as every fan knows was the blatant disregard to strengthening the defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 Have posted before...Redknapp with your squad you stay up...Redknapp with our squad we still go down. Ok there have been some massive tactical cock ups but mistakes like Saturday are not going to disappear under a new manager. The problem here is as every fan knows was the blatant disregard to strengthening the defence. I think the same thing too, our problem is the manager, your problem is behind the scenes with the people clearly not buying the right personnel for the manager. Even I knew you need 2 CBs and a LB, you got a £7m CF and he had to be played and the wing and a £13m winger when it would have been cheaper to buy someone like Samba who would have had a far better impact. I feel sorry for Adkins having his hands tied like this, if he does go what other manager would agree to having someone else but the players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 Yeah flyer Obviously, the players you bought are just right Ryan nelson, fabio and the players that keep getting sent off... Oh and rob green are just what you needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 Adkins will be here come what May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 Think this game got draw wrote all over it. If we sack Polly Anne Adkins who going to do a better job with the players we got???? Be patient - get behind the Manager we all knew it was going to be hard. Totally agree with you. I had Swansea down as 1-1 and this will be the likely score on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 Adkins will be here come what May. Dis you mean "come May" without the what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 Dis you mean "come May" without the what? Yep, a lot of typos creeping in here tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 Simon Peach @SimonPeach Told Nigel Adkins some had dubbed #QPR v #SaintsFC as El Sackico. He absolutely loved it & couldn't stop laughing. Top bloke. *like* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 15 November, 2012 Share Posted 15 November, 2012 Adkins will be here come what May. Oh oh, don't let Diben Purlieu Saint here (!) that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 16 November, 2012 Share Posted 16 November, 2012 Whats Lawro saying today ? EDIT: Ooops... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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