The January 2013 HCDAJFU thread...

[Wade Garrett]

I reckon we'll go back in for Matt Phillips and Biyik (although QPR are reportedly interested - hopefully by the end of the month they'll be cut adrift at the bottom). If we could get those 2, plus either Friedel or Robinson, we'll be well set for the rest of the season.

 

Lallana and Puncheon are both doing really well at the moment, but we are very thin on the ground for quality cover in those positions. Phillips would provide the cover and competition they need.

[Turkish]

I reckon we'll go back in for Matt Phillips and Biyik (although QPR are reportedly interested - hopefully by the end of the month they'll be cut adrift at the bottom). If we could get those 2, plus either Friedel or Robinson, we'll be well set for the rest of the season.

 

Lallana and Puncheon are both doing really well at the moment, but we are very thin on the ground for quality cover in those positions. Phillips would provide the cover and competition they need.

 

Redknapp was at it again yesterday saying that QPR need to sign players but if they are too far adrift then he'll tell the owners not to waste their money as there'll be no point bringing anyone in.

[Wade Garrett]

Redknapp was at it again yesterday saying that QPR need to sign players but if they are too far adrift then he'll tell the owners not to waste their money as there'll be no point bringing anyone in.

 

Spot on. Difficult to sell a club to a decent player if you're nailed on to go down.

[Thedelldays]

the paper keep suggesting defoe will go to QPR....why the hell would he...just plain ridiculous

 

the new one is darren Bent to QPR...but again, why would villa loan him to them and why would bent go there after the way arry dumped him out of spurs and slated him for missing a chance

[Turkish]

the paper keep suggesting defoe will go to QPR....why the hell would he...just plain ridiculous

 

the new one is darren Bent to QPR...but again, why would villa loan him to them and why would bent go there after the way arry dumped him out of spurs and slated him for missing a chance

 

I'm sure Bent would love to work with Redknapp again after their successful spell at Tottenham where he was a father figure to him.

[lloydie]

Kana-byik would be an immense signing at CB, would be surprised if we got him though!

[Window Cleaner]

Kana-byik would be an immense signing at CB, would be surprised if we got him though!

 

 

he's not that good, don't know where all this adulation for a player most of you know nothing whatsoever about comes from.

[Dazza82]

he's not that good, don't know where all this adulation for a player most of you know nothing whatsoever about comes from.

 

Most Probably Football Manager lol

[Glasgow_Saint]

Shay Given joining us in Jan so im told

[UpweySaint]

If NA has lost faith in Boruc Craig Gordon is still available on a free ...

[VectisSaint]

If NA has lost faith in Boruc Craig Gordon is still available on a free ...

Good idea, no pre-season, played 1 match in the year 2012, and people moan about Boruc being off the pace and overweight...

[studentsaint]

Given

Clyne

Fonte

Kjaar

Tierney/shotton/naughton

Cork

Schneiderlin

Puncheon

Ramirez

Lallana

Lambert

 

Gazza

Shaw (left backs interchangeable)

Yoshida

Davis

Phillips

Rodriguez

Mayuka

 

Would perhaps be a good idea to get someone that can play left back and holding midfield two areas we have quality but not depth. Like a good perch or a fit Ryan Taylor HCDAJFU.

[Badger]

Given

Clyne

Fonte

Kjaar

Tierney/shotton/naughton

Gazza

Phillips

.

 

Given - where does this come from ? (Apart from Glasgow Saint)

Kjaar - ditto

Tierney/shotton/naughton - who ?/ who ? & who ?

 

Phillips - ? Presumably Matt Phillips, the perpetual link.

 

For CB I really hope we can sign more of a 'monster' for that postion. Another Jaidi, or younger Ken Monkou MKII fit the bill perfectly. Does such a beast exist within our price range though ?

[studentsaint]

This is about HCDAJFU not breaking transfer news. Those are three left backs who have proven capable in the premier league. Yes matt phillips along with Kjaar and given would give us a strong enough squad to stay up with ease as shown above.

[student]

You just need a keeper and a centre back. Anything else I'd get on loan then buy in the summer. Keeper will be someone experienced on a 6 month deal paying hardly anything in a transfer fee. CB shouldn't be too expensive either as your first two arent that bad. I'd look for someone on loan ala Caulker last year.

[Reynoldson!!]

I wish we took a look at Niklas Moisander, he's a gun. Too late now

[Turkish]

I wish we took a look at Niklas Moisander, he's a gun. Too late now

 

Is he good at shooting?

[Thedelldays]

Have heard from my only inside info that a deal to sell lambert was agreed (for january) verbally...

 

but ADKINS has been leaned on to use him properly in HIS proper position more (im assuming afer this meeting recently where our results picked up)

 

I have also been told that NC decided against lambert going as he knew the uproar it would cause and that he is essential to us...believe it if you want but it was Adkins (apparently) who was keen on phasing lambert out....and like sharp in the NPC, J-rod is a player has has wanted for about a year...........

there you go...

 

up to you if you believe it

Edited 3 December, 2012 by Thedelldays

[mitch01]

Have heard from my only inside info that a deal to sell lambert was agreed (for january) verbally...but ADKINS has been leaned on to use him properly in HIS proper position more (im assuming afer this meeting recently where our results picked up)I have also been told that NC decided against lambert going as he knew the uproar it would cause and that he is essential to usbelieve it if you want but it was Adkins (apparently) who was keen on phasing lambert out....and like sharp in the NPC, J-rod is a player has has wanted for about a yearthere you go...up to you if you believe it

 

Cheers. I don't.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Have heard from my only inside info that a deal to sell lambert was agreed (for january) verbally...

 

but ADKINS has been leaned on to use him properly in HIS proper position more (im assuming afer this meeting recently where our results picked up)

 

I have also been told that NC decided against lambert going as he knew the uproar it would cause and that he is essential to us...believe it if you want but it was Adkins (apparently) who was keen on phasing lambert out....and like sharp in the NPC, J-rod is a player has has wanted for about a year...........

there you go...

 

up to you if you believe it

 

It was something that I certainly thought could be true after the start of this season. How people would know this, I don't know though.

[Restark19]

Have heard from my only inside info that a deal to sell lambert was agreed (for january) verbally...

 

but ADKINS has been leaned on to use him properly in HIS proper position more (im assuming afer this meeting recently where our results picked up)

 

I have also been told that NC decided against lambert going as he knew the uproar it would cause and that he is essential to us...believe it if you want but it was Adkins (apparently) who was keen on phasing lambert out....and like sharp in the NPC, J-rod is a player has has wanted for about a year...........

there you go...

 

up to you if you believe it

 

Not saying I don't believe you but anyone who feels Lambert should be sold is a complete f*cking moron. imo. That includes Nigel

[Pilchards]

Lambert came back totally unfit and Adkins was ****ed off, did hear he put some feeders out to flog him at one stage (probably to scare Rickie) but I'm sure it's all in the past now.

[London Saint]

Shay Given joining us in Jan so im told

 

I heard this too from a friend who works at Sky Sports and was talking to Matty the other day about it

[tajjuk]

I heard this too from a friend who works at Sky Sports and was talking to Matty the other day about it

 

Was a top class keeper but worrying that a team in a similar position are letting him go?

[London Saint]

Was a top class keeper but worrying that a team in a similar position are letting him go?

 

Still a better short term option than Gazza IMHO

[Smirking_Saint]

Have heard from my only inside info that a deal to sell lambert was agreed (for january) verbally...

 

but ADKINS has been leaned on to use him properly in HIS proper position more (im assuming afer this meeting recently where our results picked up)

 

I have also been told that NC decided against lambert going as he knew the uproar it would cause and that he is essential to us...believe it if you want but it was Adkins (apparently) who was keen on phasing lambert out....and like sharp in the NPC, J-rod is a player has has wanted for about a year...........

there you go...

 

up to you if you believe it

 

Lambert certainly didnt miss any meals over the summer, that was a bigger issue then anything else. FWIW I hear Rickie has a massive drive to end his career at the top level, but his professionalism goes wandering at times, meaning he doesnt take it easy over the summer.

 

Sure I put it on here over the summer not to discount Rickie leaving, heard a strong rumour on that front. Fwiw I am glad he didnt. Might explain why Rickie looked a bit of a different player for a bit but from what I gather there is no real issue with the gaffer.

 

Also TDD there was no spectacular meeting everyone keeps talking about, Nige just put his principles to one side after a bit of advice thats all.

[tajjuk]

Still a better short term option than Gazza IMHO

 

Probably but would prefer Freidel, he was still making top class saves this season whilst Given hasn't made many appearances this year and I thnk Given is a bit injury prone.

 

How about Scott Sinclair? Only two appearances for Man City so far, might be able to get a loan with view to a permanent signing.

 

a few out of favour players at City Lecott, Rodwell, Javi Garcia, might be worth some cheeky loan bids?

[Window Cleaner]

Probably but would prefer Freidel, he was still making top class saves this season whilst Given hasn't made many appearances this year and I thnk Given is a bit injury prone.

 

How about Scott Sinclair? Only two appearances for Man City so far, might be able to get a loan with view to a permanent signing.

 

a few out of favour players at City Lecott, Rodwell, Javi Garcia, might be worth some cheeky loan bids?

 

Lescott will be available, already snapped up by Everton more than likely.

[UpweySaint]

Good idea, no pre-season, played 1 match in the year 2012, and people moan about Boruc being off the pace and overweight...

 

Thanks for the sarcasm, appreciated ... I didn't state that I thought we should go for him (personally I'd stick with gazza unless niemi comes out of retirement in the same shape as friedel or an equivalent keeper of that class turns up) I just thought it was worth noting that he was still available and had been talked about as a potential signing over the summer.

[itchen_dan]

Abdul Kader Keita

 

http://www.football365.com/west-bromwich-albion/8307095/Ivory-Coast-winger-Abdul-Kader-Keita-is-keen-on-a-move-to-the-Premier-League?

[rickylambert]

Is sharp coming back in January or the end of the season

[pingwing]

Was a top class keeper but worrying that a team in a similar position are letting him go?

 

That's just Paul Lambert showing what a tit he is. Guzan is also a good keeper but ignoring Given like this "to put pressure on his performances" is madness when they are in such a position...

[Dr. Kucho]

He might cost a few quid and want huge wages, but Wesley Sneijder has declined the new contract Inter Milan has offered him. C'mon Nicola show your ambition!

[tajjuk]

That's just Paul Lambert showing what a tit he is. Guzan is also a good keeper but ignoring Given like this "to put pressure on his performances" is madness when they are in such a position...

 

I don't particularly rate Guzan, and it seems odd after Given retired from international football.

 

Given or Friedel, either would improve the team in the short term. I'm just leaning towards Friedel though because he was immense for Spurs at the start of the season.

 

Abdul Kader Keita

 

http://www.football365.com/west-bromwich-albion/8307095/Ivory-Coast-winger-Abdul-Kader-Keita-is-keen-on-a-move-to-the-Premier-League?

 

Doesn't seem very us to go for a 31 year old, also wouldn't we loose him for a month anyway in January?

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

I don't particularly rate Guzan, and it seems odd after Given retired from international football.

 

Given or Friedel, either would improve the team in the short term. I'm just leaning towards Friedel though because he was immense for Spurs at the start of the season.

 

 

 

Doesn't seem very us to go for a 31 year old, also wouldn't we loose him for a month anyway in January?

 

Strange things can happen when there's a chance you could miss out on the Premier League pot of gold at the end of the rainbow...

[david in sweden]

Is sharp coming back in January or the end of the season

 

.......another good question !

 

He has scored a few goals but perhaps not as many as some people might have hoped /wished for. IMO he will stay at Forest for the rest of the season ..and then make a decision about his future.

He is well suited to Champiobship level and will continue to score goals, but I just don't see him as a Prem.regular.

 

The Lambert question is a real challenge. Whenever he eventually goes, lots of fans will be upset/angry/disappointed, but he admitted himself (in interview) that the pace of the Prem. is far greater than many (in the team) had anticipated. Except for the very best players, the average shelf life of the ordinary striker is 3-5 years. Ricky has already done that and more...

We, who recall the legend that was Ron Davies will never forget his first few seasons in the Div.1 (Prem.) in the late 1960's. He got a lot of "attention " from tough defenders and not a lot of protection from referees. He never regained his fantastic form in the later years, and everyone was wishing him back to his best.... but it never happened.

 

We have (almost certainly) seen the best of Ricky, and although I 'd love to see him go on a year or two more, in reality he has one more big " pay-day" and would be able to go out at the top.

 

It's a tough call....I seem to think that RL's finding it tough now, but Jay Rod was bought as his eventual replacement...and shouldn't be held back too long if he's to develop as he should.

 

One of those tough footballing decisions. Should RL go or stay?. In the end : You're dam*ed if you do.. .and dam*ed if you don't .

Edited 4 December, 2012 by david in sweden

[david in sweden]

Doesn't seem very us to go for a 31 year old, also wouldn't we loose him for a month anyway in January?

 

Both our present CB's are in that same generation. Fonte will be 29 at Christmas, and Hooiveld is already 29 (will be 30 in April 2013).

 

Nothing "wrong " with that but with an average age of 23+ in the present side, we need some real experience at the back ......and in that....I include the goalie, too.

Edited 4 December, 2012 by david in sweden

[pingwing]

I don't particularly rate Guzan, and it seems odd after Given retired from international football.

 

Given or Friedel, either would improve the team in the short term. I'm just leaning towards Friedel though because he was immense for Spurs at the start of the season.

 

Yeah its very odd, Guzan in no way should be first choice ahead of Given, especially when Given has retired internationally for the first choice spot.

 

I'd take Friedel in a heart beat, the man is a machine in his early 40's and has at least 18 good footballing months ahead of him. Paul Robinson on a free would also be a blinder, he's got plenty of time at the top of his game, then Given who has had a few injuries recently (which makes me worry) but still is a class act. Cudicini 4th choice if that order of keepers doesn't come off.

[tajjuk]

Both our present CB's are in that same generation. Fonte will be 29 at Christmas, and Hooiveld is already 29 (will be 30 in April 2013).

 

Nothing "wrong " with that but with an average age of 23+ in the present side, we need some real experience at the back ......and in that....I include the goalie, too.

 

 

Bought when they were a bit younger though, I mean Fonte was 26 when we bought him and defenders usually peak later than strikers, isn't Michael Owen only 32?

 

I would also question a guy who went to Qatar, screams 'football mercenary' to me and might not be the right sort of character to have around a relegation battle, sounds much more like a QPR type signing to me.

 

Would much prefer us investing in an Ince or Phillips etc who have potential, than a free 31 year old who will probably only get worse.

 

Experience though at the back I agree with (along with quality) and in particular goalie, one of Given, Robinson or Freidel surely have to be looked at.

[Badger]

Yeah its very odd, Guzan in no way should be first choice ahead of Given, especially when Given has retired internationally for the first choice spot.

 

I'd take Friedel in a heart beat, the man is a machine in his early 40's and has at least 18 good footballing months ahead of him. Paul Robinson on a free would also be a blinder, he's got plenty of time at the top of his game, then Given who has had a few injuries recently (which makes me worry) but still is a class act. Cudicini 4th choice if that order of keepers doesn't come off.

 

Not a bad shortlist there is it. Hope one of them comes off.

 

A couple of years ago I'd have put Cudicini higher up that list.

[Turkish]

Yeah its very odd, Guzan in no way should be first choice ahead of Given, especially when Given has retired internationally for the first choice spot.

 

I'd take Friedel in a heart beat, the man is a machine in his early 40's and has at least 18 good footballing months ahead of him. Paul Robinson on a free would also be a blinder, he's got plenty of time at the top of his game, then Given who has had a few injuries recently (which makes me worry) but still is a class act. Cudicini 4th choice if that order of keepers doesn't come off.

 

fridel would be a great signing. Still a quality keeper and the experience we need.

[Wade Garrett]

.......another good question !

 

He has scored a few goals but perhaps not as many as some people might have hoped /wished for. IMO he will stay at Forest for the rest of the season ..and then make a decision about his future.

He is well suited to Champiobship level and will continue to score goals, but I just don't see him as a Prem.regular.

 

The Lambert question is a real challenge. Whenever he eventually goes, lots of fans will be upset/angry/disappointed, but he admitted himself (in interview) that the pace of the Prem. is far greater than many (in the team) had anticipated. Except for the very best players, the average shelf life of the ordinary striker is 3-5 years. Ricky has already done that and more...

We, who recall the legend that was Ron Davies will never forget his first few seasons in the Div.1 (Prem.) in the late 1960's. He got a lot of "attention " from tough defenders and not a lot of protection from referees. He never regained his fantastic form in the later years, and everyone was wishing him back to his best.... but it never happened.

 

We have (almost certainly) seen the best of Ricky, and although I 'd love to see him go on a year or two more, in reality he has one more big " pay-day" and would be able to go out at the top.

 

It's a tough call....I seem to think that RL's finding it tough now, but Jay Rod was bought as his eventual replacement...and shouldn't be held back too long if he's to develop as he should.

 

One of those tough footballing decisions. Should RL go or stay?. In the end : You're dam*ed if you do.. .and dam*ed if you don't .

 

Lambert will probably last longer than the average striker because his game is not centred around pace. He is working ever so hard at the moment, and is covering a lot of ground, particularly in wide areas. I would prefer him to concentrate his game more in and around the penalty area.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

fridel would be a great signing. Still a quality keeper and the experience we need.

 

I wonder how long he can play at the top level? I reckon he could keep going until he's about 45.

[skintsaint]

Notice Roy Carroll in goal for Olympiakos tonight playing well...hows he been getting on over there and could he plug a gap for us?...or would he even come?

[Dr Who?]

If we get rid of lambert in January we will be giving up our premier league position. This is why it is total tosh, and he will not leave, or be allowed to leave!

[Bensfcno1]

Darren Bent and any 2xCB's so Yoshida doesn't even make the bench!

[david in sweden]

Lambert will probably last longer than the average striker because his game is not centred around pace.

He is working ever so hard at the moment, and is covering a lot of ground, particularly in wide areas. I would prefer him to concentrate his game more in and around the penalty area.

 

I don't think pace is the key question, but I watched him in both the Newcastle and Norwich games and he did seem to be struggling a bit.

I don't disagree with your other comment but he doesn't lack attention from opposing defenders and there isn't anyone else for them to bother about as Puncheon seems to plays out wide so much.

[for_heaven's_Saint]

Darren Bent

 

Not particularly realistic.

[skintsaint]

How about Distin from Everton, contract runs out this summer.....and Everton looking at getting Lescott back from City. Could be surplus...

[Nigel=God-Poyet=Sod]

I'll throw this name out there: Dmytro Chygrynskiy. Who? Centre back playing in his second spell for Shakhtar who doesn't make their first team but was bought by Barcelona from Shakhtar a couple of years ago before being sold back. Think it was a pretty healthy sum, possibly around £20M, but has gone off the radar a bit. 26 years old, could be a good little signing for us.