Window Cleaner Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 If true, do we credit NC for our 2 promotions? If NA is responsible for team selection and tactics, then he is showing up to be pretty average. If he's having all the decisions made for him, then he should stand up for himself and the team (unless he's just a yes man here for the contract). For me, he comes out of it poorly either way. Exactly what I thought. Perhaps Barca getting knobbed by Micky Mouse Celtic has convinced someone that perhaps the Barca way isn't the only way.
alpine_saint Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 Exactly what I thought. Perhaps Barca getting knobbed by Micky Mouse Celtic has convinced someone that perhaps the Barca way isn't the only way.
Window Cleaner Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 it's ********. This seaosn alone he didn't come on for Everton or Villa. some might say that was a punishment for drunk driving, although with the way we're playing ATM playing 90 minutes every week is more of a punishment.
shirleysfc Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 it's ********. This seaosn alone he didn't come on for Everton or Villa. Of course it's balls!! Turkish doesn't actually believe it, he's just wumming!!
shurlock Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 Of course it's balls!! Turkish doesn't actually believe it, he's just wumming!! Well, not anymore at least.
SB Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 I was very surprised to see a piece of paper on the floor after the press conference, I presume it fell from Adkins pocket as it reads as followed: Nigel I want the formation to be 4-3-1-2 on Saturday and Gaston will play in the hole. Signed Nicola. I take it you're joking. Also like **** would NA speak to journalist behind closed doors, thanks NC for the last two promotions as it clearly wasn't NA?
tajjuk Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 Exactly what I thought. Perhaps Barca getting knobbed by Micky Mouse Celtic has convinced someone that perhaps the Barca way isn't the only way. I'm not sure having 16% possession and letting the opponents have 25 shots is a good model to follow either with out defence. - http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/274125/report Looking at those match stats makes me think maybe football manger has been realistic all these years after all!
Window Cleaner Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 I was very surprised to see a piece of paper on the floor after the press conference, I presume it fell from Adkins pocket as it reads as followed: Nigel I want the formation to be 4-3-1-2 on Saturday and Gaston will play in the hole. Signed Nicola. Must be a forgery, the instructions are coded. Something like GHDE56KLPD°°°S3FV21++. Depends what sort of Enigma machine Nigel has.
Window Cleaner Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 I'm not sure having 16% possession and letting the opponents have 25 shots is a good model to follow either with out defence. - http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/274125/report Looking at those match stats makes me think maybe football manger has been realistic all these years after all! Worked for Chelsea and now it's worked for Celtic. Cassius Clay called it rope a dope
Turkish Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 it's ********. This seaosn alone he didn't come on for Everton or Villa. That was when he was being made to pay for his drink driving as Nige said he would be.. All other times he's stated or come on with exactly or at least 15 minutes to go.
Saint Garrett Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 Maybe because he offers somerthing to the team rather than us being contractually obliged to bring him on ?!
Turkish Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 Maybe because he offers somerthing to the team rather than us being contractually obliged to bring him on ?! Whats he done in the last year or in any of his guaranteed 15 minutes this season to suggest he is the man to change the game?
Saint Garrett Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 He gives us a more physical presence in the side, he works his arse off, and was involved heavily in the best part of our season last year. Plus Nigel and the players who have been around a while know what they're going to get for him. You look at the bench and it's not like we have anyone that particularly stands out. Also has played pretty well everytime he's played this season. Instead of moaning about the players why don't you give them a chance, rather than writing them off and making up the fact that he's got it in his contract that he's got to play...?
scotty Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 I was very surprised to see a piece of paper on the floor after the press conference, I presume it fell from Adkins pocket as it reads as followed: Nigel I want the formation to be 4-3-1-2 on Saturday and Gaston will play in the hole. Signed Nicola. I take it you're joking. Nothing gets past SB. Nothing.
Turkish Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 He gives us a more physical presence in the side, he works his arse off, and was involved heavily in the best part of our season last year. Plus Nigel and the players who have been around a while know what they're going to get for him. You look at the bench and it's not like we have anyone that particularly stands out. Also has played pretty well everytime he's played this season. Instead of moaning about the players why don't you give them a chance, rather than writing them off and making up the fact that he's got it in his contract that he's got to play...? Just as well we've got no choice then!
shirleysfc Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 That was when he was being made to pay for his drink driving as Nige said he would be.. All other times he's stated or come on with exactly or at least 15 minutes to go. Ah yes, the two games he missed because of his drink driving. What about the game he played in between them?
SB Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 Nothing gets past SB. Nothing. After calming down I just realise what a tool I look. Heat of the moment.
Turkish Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 Ah yes, the two games he missed because of his drink driving. What about the game he played in between them? I presume you are referring to the capital one cup game when he was punished by being made to play in a reserve and youth team.
Stu Man Do Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 We'll see wont we. It seems like Nige has told Cortese to keep his nose out. As i said, if that extends to contract issues or not we'll see. We might be hit with legal action for breach of contract if it means Guly doesn't get his 15 minutes minimum. Quick question ... When will the writ be coming through for the 90 minutes Guly sat on the bench away to Everton? ;D
shirleysfc Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 I presume you are referring to the capital one cup game when he was punished by being made to play in a reserve and youth team. Lol. What about Spurs and West Brom when he came on after 75mins?
JackFrost Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 Throw in a kid an ruin him in the worst defence in premier league history Sounds like a good idea We already have, and out of our 3 keepers he has performed the best thus far.
Turkish Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 Lol. What about Spurs and West Brom when he came on after 75mins? I told you. That is his minimum contracted amount of time he is guarenteed to get when available.
Turkish Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 Quick question ... When will the writ be coming through for the 90 minutes Guly sat on the bench away to Everton? ;D That was the last game of his punishment following his drink driving conviction in September. He was dropped for arsenal, not given his 15 minutes against Villa and Everton and forced to play with the reserves against Wednesday. It was all part of Nige and Cortese making him pay as they threatened he would for his conviction.
shirleysfc Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 I told you. That is his minimum contracted amount of time he is guarenteed to get when available. Yeah, I get he gets a minimum of 15 mins. What happens when he's come on after 75 mins? Does injury time count?
Turkish Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 Yeah, I get he gets a minimum of 15 mins. What happens when he's come on after 75 mins? Does injury time count? Of course.
shirleysfc Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 That was the last game of his punishment following his drink driving conviction in September. He was dropped for arsenal, not given his 15 minutes against Villa and Everton and forced to play with the reserves against Wednesday. It was all part of Nige and Cortese making him pay as they threatened he would for his conviction. So now we know about Guly's 15 mins and the one academy player per match rule (unless they've been naughty), what other contract clauses are there? I know Dean Hammond got fined every time he passed the ball forwards, but what esle?
shirleysfc Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 Of course. It's a big risky on Nige/NC/Reed bringing him on after 78 mins and hoping for 3 mins injury time isn't?
shurlock Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 So now we know about Guly's 15 mins and the one academy player per match rule (unless they've been naughty), what other contract clauses are there? I know Dean Hammond got fined every time he passed the ball forwards, but what esle? I hear that Adkins gets part of his wages docked every time the crowd sings 'one nigel adkins' - makes cortese's blood boil with jealousy.
Lets B Avenue Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 So now we know about Guly's 15 mins and the one academy player per match rule (unless they've been naughty), what other contract clauses are there? I know Dean Hammond got fined every time he passed the ball forwards, but what esle? Lallana gets fined for every freekick and corner he puts on a Saints head. As he's an Everton fan, he got Tim Howard to agree to pay for letting Gaston score.
Turkish Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 I hear that Adkins gets part of his wages docked every time the crowd sings 'one nigel adkins' - makes cortese's blood boil with jealousy. Cortese wanted to change Lamberts shirt to something other than number 7 as he hated the reference to him 'wearing the shirt of Matt Le Tiss' True story.
shirleysfc Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 (edited) .... Edited 8 November, 2012 by shirleysfc
Window Cleaner Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 It's a big risky on Nige/NC/Reed bringing him on after 78 mins and hoping for 3 mins injury time isn't? Not really, injury time can be manipulated by substitions and players rolling about on the turf just because they've had a bit of contact. A substitution adds on 30 seconds extra time. 6 subs is 3 minutes.
Norm Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 After calming down I just realise what a tool I look. Heat of the moment. I really shouldn't worry SB, 99.9% of posters on here (including me) have felt the same at one time or another. Some more than once, mind you!
Lord Duckhunter Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 Is this NC telling Nige who and how to play new to this season, or was he doing it through our 2 promotions in 2 years? Perhaps some of the ITK posters could let me know?
shirleysfc Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 Is this NC telling Nige who and how to play new to this season, or was he doing it through our 2 promotions in 2 years? Perhaps some of the ITK posters could let me know? He tried it a few times last season to see if anyone would notice.
CanadaSaint Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 Throw in a kid an ruin him in the worst defence in premier league history Sounds like a good idea I initially had the same concern but not any more. In fact I'd go so far as to say that Gazzaniga is handling the pressure of life at the bottom - and behind a creaky defence - better than either of the other two; his in-game demeanour seems impressively level. The water bottle incident doesn't exactly suggest that Boruc, for all his experience, has the necessary bottle ('scuse the pun) for the challenge.
hasper57saint Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 Tim flowers only became the keeper he was by being kept busy by our crap defence' date=' he was also very young at the time, didn't seem to harm him too much[/quote'] How 'young' was Joe Hart when he first got inyo Man City's team?
Turkish Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 Is this NC telling Nige who and how to play new to this season, or was he doing it through our 2 promotions in 2 years? Perhaps some of the ITK posters could let me know? No. He had Confidence in him last season. We were doing well, winning, he was playing Guly. It all went wrong the night of the Reading game.......
scotty Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 After calming down I just realise what a tool I look. Heat of the moment. It was a bit tetchy of me to point it out, tbh. Sorry.
scotty Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 No. He had Confidence in him last season. We were doing well, winning, he was playing Guly. It all went wrong the night of the Reading game....... The Reading game was a definite turning point. It seemed to knock the stuffing out of us, possibly because the expectations were so high.
Turkish Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 The Reading game was a definite turning point. It seemed to knock the stuffing out of us, possibly because the expectations were so high. It's also what broke Adkins and Corteses relationship down.......
Doctoroncall Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 It's also what broke Adkins and Corteses relationship down....... As in losing the game, the way the game was played or something else?
Turkish Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 As in losing the game, the way the game was played or something else? Losing the game.
shurlock Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 As in losing the game, the way the game was played or something else? Strange place to be 'searching for the voice of reason'
LostBoys Posted 9 November, 2012 Posted 9 November, 2012 Boruc is crap and as some Celtic fans put it "a Clown". Gazza is good, made some good saves to keep us in the game if only we had a good defence half of the goals he has conceded probably wouldn't of been goals. Boruc, well i don't think i've seen him save anything, he's put the defence under more pressure in more than 1 occasion and some of the goals he's conceded has been his fault. Time with Boruc could mean more goals conceded while time with Gazza would give him the experience he needs. I do not think this is true. Celtic rated him very highly but there were rumours of Stolichnaya- itis while he had injury problems.
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