EBS1980 Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Is this just the normal weekly one? Seems an old time and day for it if it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Adkins changed it as he wanted to focus on the football side of things today according to a report on twitter. It makes sense as our squad should be learning how to stop the ball going in our net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Apparently has changed things around in the squad so taking them away somewhere until Swansea game.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Boruc investigation complete and he's back in contention.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Boruc investigation complete and he's back in contention.... No need to drop Gazza he done nothing wrong monday and pulled off a few good saves, for me this guy looks the real deal i would keep him in until he ****s up only fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 No need to drop Gazza he done nothing wrong monday and pulled off a few good saves, for me this guy looks the real deal i would keep him in until he ****s up only fair. Throw in a kid an ruin him in the worst defence in premier league history Sounds like a good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 He's our best keeper by a mile. You have no idea until you see boruc for a run of games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSteve Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 You have no idea until you see boruc for a run of games Boruc must be given games - Gazza is not ready Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Boruc must be given games - Gazza is not ready Really? What has he done to suggest he's not ready? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenSaint Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Boruc investigation complete and he's back in contention.... Boruc is crap and as some Celtic fans put it "a Clown". Gazza is good, made some good saves to keep us in the game if only we had a good defence half of the goals he has conceded probably wouldn't of been goals. Boruc, well i don't think i've seen him save anything, he's put the defence under more pressure in more than 1 occasion and some of the goals he's conceded has been his fault. Time with Boruc could mean more goals conceded while time with Gazza would give him the experience he needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Really? What has he done to suggest he's not ready? Probably the best keeper in the squad. BUT right now the problem is the defence in front of him. What we really need in goal is someone with experience who MIGHT be able to organise and help the defence in terms of holding the line etc. From what I've seen of Gazza he seems a bit quiet still. Can't level that charge at Boruc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Interesting that all the goals Kelvin let in were his fault yet all the goals Boruc and Gazza let in seem to be the defences fault. I haven't seem much from Gazza apart from his kicking to suggest he is miles better than Kelvin. I haven't seem Boruc play but solent were less than complimentry about him in the games he played. I think Nigel just needs to pick one keeper and stick with him all this chopping and changing can't be helping the back four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Apparently has changed things around in the squad so taking them away somewhere until Swansea game.... Perhaps they've all gone off to see Skyfall. Or in our case, Skyfail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 I rate Gazzaniga as a decent goalkeeper. Boruc has done nothing in the two games so far that could label him as a good keeper. Very poor at WH and looked pretty static v Spurs. He has to earn his place and Gazzaniga has done nothing to deserve dropping as Boruc has done nothing to suggest that he deserves to be picked ahead of Gazzaniga. Our selection of goalkeepers is bizarre, Davis is obviously behind Gazzaniga and Boruc but is always substitute, (I know about his influence etc) that is nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Payers have been called in for a meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Throw in a kid an ruin him in the worst defence in premier league history Sounds like a good idea Ruin him? How so? Give a young lad a golden opportunity to excel when playing at the very top of the game is another way of putting it, but probably won't sit well with you. And this would be the worst defencive record in Premiership history after 10 games, certainly, with arguably the worst early fixture list against top teams in Premiership history too. But as the season is only a quarter in, I think that some perspective is in order here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Payers have been called in for a meeting. I'm seeing it that Adkins has asked for and been given complete free licence for 2 or 3 games to do things entirely his own way and he'll be judged on that. If he's still found wanting, he's out. If we see an upturn he'll have proved his point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Ruin him? How so? Give a young lad a golden opportunity to excel when playing at the very top of the game is another way of putting it, but probably won't sit well with you. And this would be the worst defencive record in Premiership history after 10 games, certainly, with arguably the worst early fixture list against top teams in Premiership history too. But as the season is only a quarter in, I think that some perspective is in order here. I see the fixture list excuse is in full flow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 I'm seeing it that Adkins has asked for and been given complete free licence for 2 or 3 games to do things entirely his own way and he'll be judged on that. If he's still found wanting, he's out. If we see an upturn he'll have proved his point. Absolutely what I was thinking. Hope this is the Cortese deal - NC butts out of team selection/obeying 'must play if fit' orders/contractual obligations/ formation edicts - and NA is judged on results. Might only be 1 game though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 (edited) I'm seeing it that Adkins has asked for and been given complete free licence for 2 or 3 games to do things entirely his own way and he'll be judged on that. If he's still found wanting, he's out. If we see an upturn he'll have proved his point. Yep, just said more or less the same on the "continuing" thread. His big challenege now is to raise the spirits of the players, of course. Edited 8 November, 2012 by alpine_saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 I'm seeing it that Adkins has asked for and been given complete free licence for 2 or 3 games to do things entirely his own way and he'll be judged on that. If he's still found wanting, he's out. If we see an upturn he'll have proved his point. Hopefully it does work then NA has it his way from here on in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Adkins having no control over team style and formation is just a ridiculous conspiracy theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Adkins having no control over team style and formation is just a ridiculous conspiracy theory. Yep, our debacle is all his own work. It's about bad management and bad coaching. Then, again with Wilkins involved in it anywhere what can you expect really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Yep, our debacle is all his own work. It's about bad management and bad coaching. Then, again with Wilkins involved in it anywhere what can you expect really. Plus not getting in any really decent players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlin Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Adkins having no control over team style and formation is just a ridiculous conspiracy theory. Er..no it's not. After the West Ham game he spoke to a journo mate of mine and another hack. He collared them in a quiet corridor, away from the rest of the press and clearly had things he wanted to get off his chest (but very much off the record). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Plus not getting in any really decent players Ah no,that's down to the transfer commitee I'm afraid. Who is to blame is the idiot who wanted JRod at all costs last summer, there was plenty of time to get him in January. I do not doubt that was someone who thinks he is in with the England set up. We did not need JRod,Mayuka and Lambert when we had Sharp and Lee in reserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_saints Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Throw in a kid an ruin him in the worst defence in premier league history Sounds like a good idea we really do not need to change keepers again, it's unsettling the whole defense.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Er..no it's not. After the West Ham game he spoke to a journo mate of mine and another hack. He collared them in a quiet corridor, away from the rest of the press and clearly had things he wanted to get off his chest (but very much off the record). do you know what he said? if so care to share this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 I see the fixture list excuse is in full flow You see it as being an excuse and I'll see it as being a reason. You have not explained how Gazzaniga will be ruined yet. As the experts say, if a player is good enough, then the age is immaterial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty's Caddy Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Tim flowers only became the keeper he was by being kept busy by our crap defence, he was also very young at the time, didn't seem to harm him too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madruss Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 I see the fixture list excuse is in full flow So you presumably expected us (as a newly promoted side) to beat man u, man city, Everton, spurs, West brom, arsenal this season did you? Regardless of when the fixtures happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Er..no it's not. After the West Ham game he spoke to a journo mate of mine and another hack. He collared them in a quiet corridor, away from the rest of the press and clearly had things he wanted to get off his chest (but very much off the record). Either tell us what was said or shut up. No need for b*llocks like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Either tell us what was said or shut up. No need for b*llocks like this. What a ridiculous response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 I'm seeing it that Adkins has asked for and been given complete free licence for 2 or 3 games to do things entirely his own way and he'll be judged on that. If he's still found wanting, he's out. If we see an upturn he'll have proved his point. Will Cortese like being shown up like that though? I cant see it ending well either way. If Adkins gets it right it'll make Nic Nak look a plum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Will Cortese like being shown up like that though? I cant see it ending well either way. If Adkins gets it right it'll make Nic Nak look a plum. Not necessarily, it'll just show that although Cortese can mastermind promotion from League 1 to the Premiership, he is not a Premiership manager... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 I see the fixture list excuse is in full flow i agree with Les on this one. It's time for perspective. With over a quarter the season gone and us projecting to achieve a MASSIVE 15 points and a record high number of goals condeded now is the time for perspective. I mean, its not like any of the other teams near the bottom have EVER beaten any of the teams near the top. They just write those games off, just Wigan did last season when their last 6 games which they need to win to stay up included Newcastle, Man United and Arsenal, all teams who finished in the top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Either tell us what was said or shut up. No need for b*llocks like this. Without breaking confidences, he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Will Cortese like being shown up like that though? I cant see it ending well either way. If Adkins gets it right it'll make Nic Nak look a plum. We've been told that Nik Nak is still learning the trade; hopefully this is part of his learning curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Will Cortese like being shown up like that though? I cant see it ending well either way. If Adkins gets it right it'll make Nic Nak look a plum. So Guly wont be coming on or starting then? Shame - I had my stopwatch ready and everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 I was very surprised to see a piece of paper on the floor after the press conference, I presume it fell from Adkins pocket as it reads as followed: Nigel I want the formation to be 4-3-1-2 on Saturday and Gaston will play in the hole. Signed Nicola. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 So Guly wont be coming on or starting then? Shame - I had my stopwatch ready and everything. We'll see wont we. It seems like Nige has told Cortese to keep his nose out. As i said, if that extends to contract issues or not we'll see. We might be hit with legal action for breach of contract if it means Guly doesn't get his 15 minutes minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 We'll see wont we. It seems like Nige has told Cortese to keep his nose out. As i said, if that extends to contract issues or not we'll see. We might be hit with legal action for breach of contract if it means Guly doesn't get his 15 minutes minimum. it does not seem like that at all.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 We'll see wont we. It seems like Nige has told Cortese to keep his nose out. As i said, if that extends to contract issues or not we'll see. We might be hit with legal action for breach of contract if it means Guly doesn't get his 15 minutes minimum. You ****in' love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 So Guly wont be coming on or starting then? Shame - I had my stopwatch ready and everything. The Guly thing, even if true is not Cortese, it's a contractual obligation. 2 different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Tim flowers only became the keeper he was by being kept busy by our crap defence' date=' he was also very young at the time, didn't seem to harm him too much[/quote'] From memory actually he was taken out of the firing line when we signed John Burridge. By the time Burridge had moved on Flowers had learned a bit from JB and returned to the team a much better keeper. Not saying the same should happen to Gazzaniga as every situation is different and only those closest to the players will know what the best thing is for his long term development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 The Guly thing, even if true is not Cortese, it's a contractual obligation. 2 different things. Except, of course, when he doesn't start... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Er..no it's not. After the West Ham game he spoke to a journo mate of mine and another hack. He collared them in a quiet corridor, away from the rest of the press and clearly had things he wanted to get off his chest (but very much off the record). If true, do we credit NC for our 2 promotions? If NA is responsible for team selection and tactics, then he is showing up to be pretty average. If he's having all the decisions made for him, then he should stand up for himself and the team (unless he's just a yes man here for the contract). For me, he comes out of it poorly either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Except, of course, when he doesn't start... Or doesn't come off the bench or doesn't come on at the 75 mins mark... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 Or doesn't come off the bench or doesn't come on at the 75 mins mark... That's lawyers for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 The Guly thing, even if true is not Cortese, it's a contractual obligation. 2 different things. it's ********. This seaosn alone he didn't come on for Everton or Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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