lordswoodsaints Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 For those that think a change of manager or a returning manager can't freshen the place up or turn things around need only to look down the road at Bournemouth Since Eddie Howe returned he has a record of P5 W4 D1.....not a bad start is it? Compared to Paul groves P20 W3 D11 L6
westmidlandsaint Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 Yeah but depends which ex manager we're bringing back its not like we haven't got a few probably only a few that are capable (not that I would want any of these apart from probably strachan saggychops at a push) Strachan Redknapp Hoddle Jones Pearson Not sure I'd want any of the other ex managers
dubai_phil Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 Damn, we so should have got Eddie Howe in as manager when we had the chance... :rolleyes
Doctoroncall Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 Makes perfect sense. Let's do it. Yep, I think Eddie would jump at the chance.
Wade Garrett Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 For those that think a change of manager or a returning manager can't freshen the place up or turn things around need only to look down the road at Bournemouth Since Eddie Howe returned he has a record of P5 W4 D1.....not a bad start is it? Compared to Paul groves P20 W3 D11 L6 Yours is a great example of the effect different managers can have on the same group of players.
dronskisaint Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 For every Eddie Howe there's an equal and opposite reaction - fails as often as it works.
Chez Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 haven't bournemouth got a squad that by rights should be near the top of the league? Have we? Not sure a change of manager always has the right effect as we saw the last time we went down.
Wes Tender Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 I would only look towards Bournemouth to reflect on how far we have come, since only a short while ago we were at the same level or even below them. There is nothing about them that I envy.
Saint in Paradise Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 Bournemouth has better beaches than Southampton
eurosaint Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 Example : Since Mourinho Chelsea have had : Avram Grant Scolari Wilkins (caretaker) Hiddink Ancelotti Vilas Boas Di Matteo (present) Mostly kneejerk appointments and guys with big reputations and salaries ! Basically nobody has improved the situation since Jose (I do realise that Di Matteo presided over the jammy CL win !) and the merry go round will continue unless they win a couple of trophies each year ! IMO there is no evidence that regular change is better than stability and it is (for sure!) a helluva lot more costly !
Saint Fan CaM Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 haven't bournemouth got a squad that by rights should be near the top of the league? Have we? Not sure a change of manager always has the right effect as we saw the last time we went down. Absolutely spot bang on the money. Nothing more to say - close the thread.
speed demon Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 No we should not get a new manager in because that is the worst thing we could do. We should keep the good bond that NA has with all the players because team spirit and all that are far more important when we get relegated. The fact that some of our best players will go and we will start over again gets forgotten, as long as we don't rock the boat we'll be alright. Right?
stevegrant Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 They should be in the top 2 with the squad they've got at their disposal and Howe's return and the subsequent upturn in performances and results only shows what an utterly appalling job Lee Bradbury and Paul Groves did last season and this.
Mowgli Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 The OP is going to regret posting this in 12 months tme.
Whitey Grandad Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 So, could it be that with our squad we should be top of the table?
Whitey Grandad Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 The OP is going to regret posting this in 12 months tme. We could be playing them next season.
Saint Mikey Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 Example : Since Mourinho Chelsea have had : Avram Grant Scolari Wilkins (caretaker) Hiddink Ancelotti Vilas Boas Di Matteo (present) Mostly kneejerk appointments and guys with big reputations and salaries ! Basically nobody has improved the situation since Jose (I do realise that Di Matteo presided over the jammy CL win !) and the merry go round will continue unless they win a couple of trophies each year ! IMO there is no evidence that regular change is better than stability and it is (for sure!) a helluva lot more costly ! Ancelotti won the League and FA Cup double! I concur with the other posters, B'mouth should be challenging at the top with their wage bill. Apparently they are covering Barney's contract fully - £14k a week. That's a heck of a lot of cash for any Lge 1 club, nevermind one that has gates of 5/6k.
The9 Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 For those that think a change of manager or a returning manager can't freshen the place up or turn things around need only to look down the road at Bournemouth Since Eddie Howe returned he has a record of P5 W4 D1.....not a bad start is it? Compared to Paul groves P20 W3 D11 L6 Er, we already did that 3 years ago, do keep up. If you like I can dig out Redknapp's record with Saints, or Stuart Gray's, or Dodd and Gorman's, or even Wotte's for that matter. That's a hell of a selective memory you have. To take it outside Saints managers, how about Terry Cooper's awesome turnaround when Mick McCarthy got the boot at Wolves last season ?
melmacian_saint Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 Eddie and Steve were career-long Bournemouth players who are in charge of a squad that has clearly been underachieving this season but includes several players that got promotion under them and they themselves enjoy a status at the (considerably smaller) club that means that players react differently. It's the typical situation in football where people only work in certain places and conditions. Eddie did not get on as well at Burnley as clearly never looked comfortable. I think neither of our relatively successful ex-managers would fit the current situation.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 Surely the only inspiration we need from Boscombe is to keep hold of the Manager that got us promotion. Had Boscombe done this and Howe hadn't gone to Burnley, they would be in a better position than they are now.
eurosaint Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 Er, we already did that 3 years ago, do keep up. If you like I can dig out Redknapp's record with Saints, or Stuart Gray's, or Dodd and Gorman's, or even Wotte's for that matter. That's a hell of a selective memory you have. To take it outside Saints managers, how about Terry Cooper's awesome turnaround when Mick McCarthy got the boot at Wolves last season ? Not like you The9 - Terry Connor !!
St_Tel49 Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 For those that think a change of manager or a returning manager can't freshen the place up or turn things around need only to look down the road at Bournemouth Since Eddie Howe returned he has a record of P5 W4 D1.....not a bad start is it? Compared to Paul groves P20 W3 D11 L6 I do so love profound conclusions being drawn from a statistical sample of 1.
Whitey Grandad Posted 8 November, 2012 Posted 8 November, 2012 I do so love profound conclusions being drawn from a statistical sample of 1. Isn't it two? They have changed and have improved. We haven't changed....
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