Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 After rumours that he is on circa £60k a week, and people criticising players like Lambert for being disinterested, has Ramirez's 'bumper' pay packet had an affect on the side? Personally I think Gaston is quality, and once fully fit will really show what a top quality player and prospect (we have to remember he is still only 21) we have, but has he been worth potentially disrupting the harmony in the squad. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 I dont but into that....a club would never ever move on...im sure over the last few years...say cork for example came in on more money than hammond....no problem there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 I dont. If you want to bring in good players they cost more. Ramirez is one of the top young players in Europe and a full international for a top footballing nation. If Rickie Lambert is upset Ramirez is on more then ask him to bring his international caps along to his pay review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 It's more like half that from what I have heard. Seems like reliable info. So no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 Maybe, maybe not, maybe its had the opposite effect - maybe its actually driven the others to work harder as they all want to prove they deserve £60K. Mongboard-in-let-sleeping-dogs-lie shocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 if he was **** then the players might ask WTF? But he quite clearly is decent. Where do you get that £60k a week figure from? I seem to recall the initial Italian story said £38k a week, but maybe gross and net comes into play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 38k after tax supposedly, although who knows what tax rates footballers use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 Met Gaston yesterday, seemed a pleasant guy. Can't be easy for the lad, 21 all on his own and seemingly living out of hotels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 Met Gaston yesterday, seemed a pleasant guy. Can't be easy for the lad, 21 all on his own and seemingly living out of hotels. Can't Jay Rod go and ask him out to play, what with him sort of being Spanish . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 A lot of new faces in the team quite a few without English as their first language I could see that having knocking effect on the team. For some of the old hands seeing a few of your old team mates getting moved on while others are reduced to hanging out on the edges of the squad could result in changes to the close knit squad the team seemed to be before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 I doubt his pay package has had an effect. But I would suggest he hasnt - so far - been worth the money and even if we relegate there is no way we'll see half of what we paid for him back. Some of our players need to start firing on all cylinders - and he's one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 he is not on 60k. around about 40k which is standard rate for a quality player at mid/lower table teams. i recall adkins describing him as a "world class"talent when we signed him so on that basis the other players should be grateful we got a player of that quality on a comparatively low wage. just think joe cole is on £600 per hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 I doubt his pay package has had an effect. But I would suggest he hasnt - so far - been worth the money and even if we relegate there is no way we'll see half of what we paid for him back. Some of our players need to start firing on all cylinders - and he's one of them. He's played under 3 games for us - was MOTM in one, scored in another and was returning from a lengthy layoff in the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 ... had an effect. to affect - verb to have an effect - noun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 7 November, 2012 Author Share Posted 7 November, 2012 he is not on 60k. around about 40k which is standard rate for a quality player at mid/lower table teams. i recall adkins describing him as a "world class"talent when we signed him so on that basis the other players should be grateful we got a player of that quality on a comparatively low wage. just think joe cole is on £600 per hour. How do you know he is not on £60k? He was meant to be on £38k a week after tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 7 November, 2012 Author Share Posted 7 November, 2012 (edited) ... had an effect. to affect - verb to have an effect - noun Brilliant input from yourself there. Tell me, what is the verb for ****? Edited 7 November, 2012 by Dibden Purlieu Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlin Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 If you believe there is a clause in Lambert's contract which says he will always be the highest paid player at the club, then Ramirez's wedge would not be the cause of Lambo's demeanour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangermouth Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 No. Every player who talks about the club says he's good and they aren't likely to be on the same wage as Rooney (who they probably also think is good), even thought they'd like the paypacket. He was not so good partly on Monday because WBA double or triple-tagged him and as MS and the short, not very-good bloke from Northern Ireland didn't show for him very much he essentially got crowded out while looking for the (non-existant) pass. The forwards also didn't do much as everyone either ball-watched or ran away from the ball like they were 8 or 9 year olds. To effect (vb) - to bring into effect or make happen: To affect (vb) to alter, change or modify in some fashion. Now almost obsolete due to the preponderence of the wholly-inappropriate 'impact' (because all people can do is copy off wot they saw even if they don't know what it was, but everybody's doing it, right?). Over to whoever for the next lesson ... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 I dont. If you want to bring in good players they cost more. Ramirez is one of the top young players in Europe and a full international for a top footballing nation. If Rickie Lambert is upset Ramirez is on more then ask him to bring his international caps along to his pay review. He should probably a second nationality as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 Can't Jay Rod go and ask him out to play, what with him sort of being Spanish . Fonte speaks Spanish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 I dont. If you want to bring in good players they cost more. Ramirez is one of the top young players in Europe and a full international for a top footballing nation. If Rickie Lambert is upset Ramirez is on more then ask him to bring his international caps along to his pay review. Totally agree, but maybe on a personal level his nose is out of joint ? Should spur hom to do better really ? Perhaps he just has gone too far and this isnt his level ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 To answer the OP succinctly. Not a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 I dont. If you want to bring in good players they cost more. Ramirez is one of the top young players in Europe and a full international for a top footballing nation. If Rickie Lambert is upset Ramirez is on more then ask him to bring his international caps along to his pay review. On the other hand maybe Rickie could just bring a DVD of his 92 saints goals in a 165 apperances and say "what the f uck have international caps got to do with it my goals have got you two promotions in three seasons".............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 Can't Jay Rod go and ask him out to play, what with him sort of being Spanish . Maybe, I would have thought someone would have been there with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 After rumours that he is on circa £60k a week, and people criticising players like Lambert for being disinterested, has Ramirez's 'bumper' pay packet had an affect on the side? Personally I think Gaston is quality, and once fully fit will really show what a top quality player and prospect (we have to remember he is still only 21) we have, but has he been worth potentially disrupting the harmony in the squad. Thoughts? Have Man U stopped [laying well because they signed Van Persie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 He's played under 3 games for us - was MOTM in one, scored in another and was returning from a lengthy layoff in the other. Fair point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 (edited) ... Edited 7 November, 2012 by Wade Garrett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 I don't think Lambert's present state of mind has anything to do with any of the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 After rumours that he is on circa £60k a week, and people criticising players like Lambert for being disinterested, has Ramirez's 'bumper' pay packet had an affect on the side? Personally I think Gaston is quality, and once fully fit will really show what a top quality player and prospect (we have to remember he is still only 21) we have, but has he been worth potentially disrupting the harmony in the squad. Thoughts? No. The players will be more than happy to have a world class player in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumush Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 The guy is a quality 21 year old international. We stole him for £14m, and will double our money when we sell him. He was fantastic against Villa but then was injured in training. WBA was his first game for 5 weeks. Give the guy a chance FFS !!! I doubt his pay package has had an effect. But I would suggest he hasnt - so far - been worth the money and even if we relegate there is no way we'll see half of what we paid for him back. Some of our players need to start firing on all cylinders - and he's one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 Did Lamberts high wages upset the other players when we were in league 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 The guy is a quality 21 year old international. We stole him for £14m, and will double our money when we sell him.He was fantastic against Villa but then was injured in training. WBA was his first game for 5 weeks. Give the guy a chance FFS !!! Really? I think that might be a little optimistic..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 I don't think Lambert's present state of mind has anything to do with any of the players. What's it to do with Wade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 He is on around 30-35k per week, comes from a decent source. At a similar level to the rest of our top players, Lambert is close to that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 Brilliant input from yourself there. Tell me, what is the verb for ****? to learn? to educate? to clarify? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 7 November, 2012 Share Posted 7 November, 2012 What's it to do with Wade? Do you really want me to swallow the bait? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 8 November, 2012 Share Posted 8 November, 2012 It's more like half that from what I have heard. Seems like reliable info. So no. Which is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Haven't see any evidence of this, his goal was celebrated by the whole team yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Haven't see any evidence of this, his goal was celebrated by the whole team yesterday. Lallana was very postive about him after the game, you cans ee all the players love having his class in the team - gives us a better chance of staying up and therefore the rest of the players a better chance of carrying on earning Prem money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Lallana was very postive about him after the game, you cans ee all the players love having his class in the team - gives us a better chance of staying up and therefore the rest of the players a better chance of carrying on earning Prem money! He's probably a bloody good wing man in 90 degrees as well. Nothing to see here IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 26 November, 2012 Author Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Haven't see any evidence of this, his goal was celebrated by the whole team yesterday. Somebody has been goin back through my threads...if you PM me your address I am happy to send through a signed photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Lol another beauty!! DPS apply now http://www.e4.com/toolacademy/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 26 November, 2012 Author Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Lol another beauty!! DPS apply now http://www.e4.com/toolacademy/ I'll apply there when you apply here: https://www.bnp.org.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 I'll apply there when you apply here: https://www.bnp.org.uk/ Good one!! Anyone that doesnt rate Guly is a racist!? Thats about 98% of saints fans then!! Quit while youre behind Helen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 26 November, 2012 Author Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Good one!! Anyone that doesnt rate Guly is a racist!? Thats about 98% of saints fans then!! Quit while youre behind Helen I did ask you the other day who this Helen Finnegan was, yet I didn't get a response...who is she? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Lol! Some serious poor judgement being evidenced through these resurrected threads. Very important in determining whose opinions are worth a read going forward... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Ramirez reminds me of Ekelund (in his prime) and remember MLT enjoyed playing alongside him more than anyone else. When Gaston scored yesterday all the players looked really pleased for him - if there is any dressing room disharmony then it wasn't apparent yesterday. He is real class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 26 November, 2012 Author Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Lol! Some serious poor judgement being evidenced through these resurrected threads. Very important in determining whose opinions are worth a read going forward... This wasn't an opinion, it was a question...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 Can we move all future DPS/Helen threads directly to the muppet show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 26 November, 2012 Share Posted 26 November, 2012 I think we can close this thread now. If you look at Gastons reactions when we score, when teammates miss chances it is genuin teamspirit reactions. I specially loved his cheers on the bench against QPR when we scored the third. He looks a really genuin bloke. Very unlike many other southamerican players in my opinion..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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