Nigel to continue as manager

[alpine_saint]

 

Even Alpine was sane enough to concede that this theory might be the product of a 'vivid imagination'

 

Erm, no, actualy.

 

A few on here believe NA has insisted that he do things his way for a bit. My "vivid imagination" referred more to my level of detail as to how the discussion went. I do believe some sort of understanding has been reached where NA goes it alone and takes responsibility for it.

[Turkish]

where does it say that?

 

He's going to do things differently. Ie not listen to the lunatic dwarf telling him who to play. It would be interesting to see if that applies to Guly and his 15 minutes minimum. We might find ourselves with a legal case for breach of contract if he doesn't feature.

[Thedelldays]

He's going to do things differently. Ie not listen to the lunatic dwarf telling him who to play. It would be interesting to see if that applies to Guly and his 15 minutes minimum. We might find ourselves with a legal case for breach of contract if he doesn't feature.

it could be that..or it could be doing different training and build up techniques...

 

I guess we shall see when the team/formation is published

[ericb]

Funny this idea that Adkins has been given full reign at the club is the polar opposite to what i've heard from people within it. From what i've heard he has a stay of execution of three weeks (effectively given his notice) and Cortese is actively searching for a replacement.

 

To be honest i totally trust those sources and think he's probably a dead man walking, but i still think it's a monumental fu.ck up on Cortese's part.

[shurlock]

it could be that..or it could be doing different training and build up techniques...

 

I guess we shall see when the team/formation is published

 

Or going away for a few days and having a change of scene as he says clearly in his interview.

[Thedelldays]

Or going away for a few days and having a change of scene as he says clearly in his interview.

just seen that...and it appears when watching it that it was that he clearly meant..

I assume that NC didnt want them to go...or something....

[Turkish]

it could be that..or it could be doing different training and build up techniques...

 

I guess we shall see when the team/formation is published

 

Maybe Cortese has signed off playing a different formation this week?

[The Kraken]

Funny this idea that Adkins has been given full reign at the club is the polar opposite to what i've heard from people within it. From what i've heard he has a stay of execution of three weeks (effectively given his notice) and Cortese is actively searching for a replacement.

 

To be honest i totally trust those sources and think he's probably a dead man walking, but i still think it's a monumental fu.ck up on Cortese's part.

 

In either case; if he has been given his notice there's entirely no reason why he shouldn't just do things his way. He has nothing to lose; if he's not going to save his job he may as well go out doing it his way.

[Thedelldays]

Maybe Cortese has signed off playing a different formation this week?

maybe he wont be putting the cones out this week....

[Turkish]

Funny this idea that Adkins has been given full reign at the club is the polar opposite to what i've heard from people within it. From what i've heard he has a stay of execution of three weeks (effectively given his notice) and Cortese is actively searching for a replacement.

 

To be honest i totally trust those sources and think he's probably a dead man walking, but i still think it's a monumental fu.ck up on Cortese's part.

 

Funny you should say that. I was told in September he'll be gone by the middle of December, whatever the results. Seems to all tie in.

[Turkish]

maybe he wont be putting the cones out this week....

 

Isn't Reed in charge of kit and equipment?

[Thedelldays]

Isn't Reed in charge of kit and equipment?

and cone alignment...

if the bibs are not clean........ffs

[Window Cleaner]

but i still think it's a monumental fu.ck up on Cortese's part.

 

 

what giving him another 3 weeks ? you are not wrong.

[Guan 2.0]

Or going away for a few days and having a change of scene as he says clearly in his interview.

 

Stop being sensible, and inferring facts from what has actually been said, and start acting like there is an implied message criticising the Southampton FC version of the Illuminati.

[shurlock]

just seen that...and it appears when watching it that it was that he clearly meant..

I assume that NC didnt want them to go...or something....

 

Paintball, karaoke, bingo and dvds of 'any given sunday' not the 'southampton way'

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

From the OS

 

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/adkins-implements-change-of-routine-474988.aspx

 

 

 

The bits in bold definitely reinforce my opinion that he's demanded to do things entirely his own way and told others to butt out. I actually feel pretty positive ahead of the Swansea game.

 

Same here. If we can get back to exactly what Adkins wants to do, and not being influenced, then perhaps we can start picking up our performance.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

He's going to do things differently. Ie not listen to the lunatic dwarf telling him who to play. It would be interesting to see if that applies to Guly and his 15 minutes minimum. We might find ourselves with a legal case for breach of contract if he doesn't feature.

 

Lunatic dwarf is a bit extreme (and libellous).

[derry]

Well, I wasn't going to go on Saturday (I have work) but feck it, I'm going to move that to Sunday and go and support Nigel.

 

Whatever you think about his tactics and selection, the bloke DESERVES your support while he is still there.

 

And who knows, he might yet do a Ferguson. I hope he does. He's earned the right to be successful.

 

Spot on and he's earned the right to see it through but only if he is manager without interference. Otherwise he should just walk.

[Charlie Wayman]

Well, having been across the channel for a week but herad the WBA result, really thought Adkins would be history by now. Reda all the guff from the press and was astounded to read Adders (own?) words that our goal is survival when at the start of this season Cortese had set a target of top six for this season...

 

So what's the problem and why the change of heart?

 

Saints under Adders just aren't good enough yet Cortese is persisting? It doesn't add up, so my guess is he can't get the Roberto's he really wants - de Matteo and Martinez are doing very well thank. I hear he is pals with both.

 

So where from here? Or is Cortese planning his exit strategy whilst the club is a going concern?

[Turkish]

Lunatic dwarf is a bit extreme (and libellous).

 

Yeah, i'm worried. I can see the Headlines of the Mirror now.

 

"Mongboard poster sued for labelling soccerball chairman lunatic dwarf"

 

:lol::lol:

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Nigel Adkins:-

 

 

I would say that for most of the fans, that is true. However, there appears to be quite a few on here who want Adkins sacked, regardless of the fact that they offer little in the way of intelligent suggestions as to the alternative candidates who are either able or willing to come here and take over and do a better job.

 

Perhaps the appearance is given that many wish Adkins gone because they are a minority, but a very vocal one. Maybe others who hold the contrary view don't post as often, because they are fed-up with being ridiculed and insulted whenever they dare to disagree with those who believe themselves to be always right, when often opinions by either side are based purely on rumour, or conjecture. You only have to look a few posts above this one to see the polarised views on the relationship between Adkins and Cortese, again all without foundation. It was the opinion of many of the doom and gloom brigade that Adkins would already have been sacked and it has not happened. Presumably these people are now disappointed that their prophecies or wishes have not come to fruition.

 

I still hold the opinion that Adkins deserves a chance to see whether he can turn things around and I believe that he can. But he shouldn't be undermined by supposed Saints fans clamouring for his head, especially if they don't have a credible replacement for him in mind.

 

The irony of this sentence is beautiful. You think that it is those that want Adkins to stay that get ridiculed? Yeah, nice one.

[The Kraken]

You could probably borrow Crouchie's lawyer if you get in any libel troubles.

 

Oh those were fun times.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Yeah, i'm worried. I can see the Headlines of the Mirror now.

 

"Mongboard poster sued for labelling soccerball chairman lunatic dwarf"

 

:lol::lol:

 

 

Unlikely, I know!

[Dig Dig]

Funny you should say that. I was told in September he'll be gone by the middle of December, whatever the results. Seems to all tie in.

 

Why would anyone devise a plan like that "whatever the results"?

 

Doesn't make any sense what so ever

[Turkish]

Why would anyone devise a plan like that "whatever the results"?

 

Doesn't make any sense what so ever

 

The Southampton Way!

[Dig Dig]

The Southampton Way!

 

"The Southampton Way" as told by Turkish

[shirleysfc]

Im glad Nigel has finally had the balls to tell Cortese to wind his neck in and butt out of team affairs. I'm glad to see that if he's going to go, he gets carried out on his shield with his sword in hand rather than going down with a wimper. It might also get used to Cortese being told where to go by a new manager who wont stand for it. Good news allround.

 

Lolz

[shirleysfc]

He's going to do things differently. Ie not listen to the lunatic dwarf telling him who to play. It would be interesting to see if that applies to Guly and his 15 minutes minimum. We might find ourselves with a legal case for breach of contract if he doesn't feature.

 

Seriously, this stuff is pure gold!!

 

I wonder which academy player will be playing Saturday? Unless this is one of the games none of the academy players feature as a punishment?

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Seriously, this stuff is pure gold!!

 

I wonder which academy player will be playing Saturday? Unless this is one of the games none of the academy players feature as a punishment?

 

What is your avatar by the way? Is it a falling leaf? No criticism here, just always wondered.

[The Kraken]

Seriously, this stuff is pure gold!!

 

I wonder which academy player will be playing Saturday? Unless this is one of the games none of the academy players feature as a punishment?

 

I've heard its Luke Shaw's turn. His 10 minute cameo against WBA was a warm up for the lad to get a full game.

[Wes Tender]

The irony of this sentence is beautiful. You think that it is those that want Adkins to stay that get ridiculed? Yeah, nice one.

 

Yes, I do. And as you have been one of the vocal minority who has shouted loudest that he should be sacked, I'm not going to take any lessons from you about irony.

[alpine_saint]

In either case; if he has been given his notice there's entirely no reason why he shouldn't just do things his way. He has nothing to lose; if he's not going to save his job he may as well go out doing it his way.

 

This. If he has been effectively given his notice, he's going to do it his way for his CV - "See ? I am up to management at this level - if I'm left to it"

 

I predict NA will be out of a job less than a month, going either to an underachieving Championship team or a struggling fellow PL team like QPR.

[shirleysfc]

What is your avatar by the way? Is it a falling leaf? No criticism here, just always wondered.

 

The art work from New Order's True Faith

[shurlock]

This. If he has been effectively given his notice, he's going to do it his way for his CV - "See ? I am up to management at this level - if I'm left to it"

 

I predict NA will be out of a job less than a month, going either to an underachieving Championship team or a struggling fellow PL team like QPR.

 

 

And you were adamant that he had agreed with NC that he was going to do it his own way - that's what today's presser was about. Changes of routine and all that....

 

Now he's going solo...

 

[alpine_saint]

And you were adamant that he had agreed with NC that he was going to do it his own way - that's what today's presser was about. Changes of routine and all that....

 

Now he's going solo...

 

 

Oh, FFS.

 

Cant you hold back from tripping over yourself for the f**king dig and pay attention to the discussion ?

 

I was expanding on the premise from ericb and The Kraken.

 

And I said all along that I was guessing

 

Jesus

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Yes, I do. And as you have been one of the vocal minority who has shouted loudest that he should be sacked, I'm not going to take any lessons from you about irony.

 

Well, that's up to you. However, if you believe that it is the people supporting Adkins that have been criticised and abused for their way of thinking then you have definitely been turning a blind eye to it. But hey, that's your prerogative I suppose.

 

Yes I have been vocal, but only because I saw very early on in the Summer that there was something wrong. I'm sorry that the rest of you were so myopic, I really am. We'll see what happens, and I really hope NA turns it around, I honestly do, but in my opinion there is something very wrong about the way we are doing things.

 

Either way that doesn't mean that you have to come on this thread and spout bull about abuse. If you want I am happy to post the masses of abuse I have received on threads based on me questioning NA, or NC, or whatever, to prove my point. And then you can do the same and we'll add them up?

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

The art work from New Order's True Faith

 

I used to think that today would never come...great tune. Video gave birth to the Tellytubbies I like to think...

[shirleysfc]

I used to think that today would never come...great tune. Video gave birth to the Tellytubbies I like to think...

 

One of the most iconic music videos ever made IMHO!

[Badger]

Funny this idea that Adkins has been given full reign at the club is the polar opposite to what i've heard from people within it. From what i've heard he has a stay of execution of three weeks (effectively given his notice) and Cortese is actively searching for a replacement.

 

To be honest i totally trust those sources and think he's probably a dead man walking, but i still think it's a monumental fu.ck up on Cortese's part.

 

Not as much of a fu.ck up as it would be to relieve NA of duties,and leave Wilkins in temporary charge for three weeks.

[shurlock]

In either case; if he has been given his notice there's entirely no reason why he shouldn't just do things his way. He has nothing to lose; if he's not going to save his job he may as well go out doing it his way.

 

Jonno Quick is returning on his white horse as we speak,

[alpine_saint]

Not as much of a fu.ck up as it would be to relieve NA of duties,and leave Wilkins in temporary charge for three weeks.

 

Is Wilkins still here ?

 

Oh sh*t. You just tipped me into the "Nigel, Stay !!" camp.

[The Kraken]

Jonno Quick is returning on his white horse as we speak,

 

Thanks for that. You're on form today.

[OldNick]

He's going to do things differently. Ie not listen to the lunatic dwarf telling him who to play. It would be interesting to see if that applies to Guly and his 15 minutes minimum. We might find ourselves with a legal case for breach of contract if he doesn't feature.

you are an interesting poster, but you are making it up as you go.

NA mentions that they are going away for a couple of days which is the change. You have a fantasy idea that NC picks the team etc, barmy on so many levels. In fact it is insulting to NA is a decent man of integrity i dont believe he would ever consider playing the fall guy.

[Saint 76er]

Well, having been across the channel for a week but herad the WBA result, really thought Adkins would be history by now. Reda all the guff from the press and was astounded to read Adders (own?) words that our goal is survival when at the start of this season Cortese had set a target of top six for this season...

 

So what's the problem and why the change of heart?

 

Saints under Adders just aren't good enough yet Cortese is persisting? It doesn't add up, so my guess is he can't get the Roberto's he really wants - de Matteo and Martinez are doing very well thank. I hear he is pals with both.

 

So where from here? Or is Cortese planning his exit strategy whilst the club is a going concern?

 

de Matteo unlikely to be available until next season at earliest. However, Martinez could be interesting IF the end of the road really is near for Nige.

 

Martinez has done a quality job at Swansea and Wigan and seemingly would fit the bill perfectly for what NC wants in a manager. If we had to make a change he may be the ideal candidate.

 

Would be worth paying whatever is needed and NC probably would be prepared to do so, however, Dave Whelan would take a lot of convincing to let him go as we all know.

 

Somehow DW fought off LFC to keep him, but Martinez won't be at Wigan for ever and a suitable replacement would presumably be a key issue. Like, shall we say, a young up and coming manager with a superb CV of success in the FL who many believe is ready for PL success in the right circumstances. Oh, and if that manager happened to be a former Wigan player then so much the better.

 

Perhaps we may end up with that rarest of things, a manager swop ...

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

de Matteo unlikely to be available until next season at earliest. However, Martinez could be interesting IF the end of the road really is near for Nige.

 

Martinez has done a quality job at Swansea and Wigan and seemingly would fit the bill perfectly for what NC wants in a manager. If we had to make a change he may be the ideal candidate.

 

Would be worth paying whatever is needed and NC probably would be prepared to do so, however, Dave Whelan would take a lot of convincing to let him go as we all know.

 

Somehow DW fought off LFC to keep him, but Martinez won't be at Wigan for ever and a suitable replacement would presumably be a key issue. Like, shall we say, a young up and coming manager with a superb CV of success in the FL who many believe is ready for PL success in the right circumstances. Oh, and if that manager happened to be a former Wigan player then so much the better.

 

Perhaps we may end up with that rarest of things, a manager swop ...

 

Forget that fact that he turned down managing Villa, a FAR bigger team that we are.

[The Kraken]

Forget that fact that he turned down managing Villa, a FAR bigger team that we are.

 

Calling MLG. Calling MLG.

Report to this thread please.

[SaintRobbie]

I'm in a real quandary now. Having started to advocate that perhaps Nige isnt up to the job and we should genuinely think of punting on Harry Redknapp to save our season and Premiership status, I find this decision comforting.

 

NA is outstanding, no doubts. Perhaps as others have posted a quick year in the Premiership and relegation with NA and a stronger team may be acceptable after all. Don't get me wrong. This game is all about WINNING, and at the moment NA is a loser. But, there is something comforting and optimistic about him staying. Perhaps enough is enough. We've all become frustrated with NAs lack of success, but he's staying and putting him and his team under more pressure is not going to help.

 

So, can I suggest ALOT of singing for Nigel at the next game. He's a Saint and he's staying.

 

ITS TIME FOR US ALL TO SUPPORT HIM.

 

We've won too many games this past 2 years to remember that most seasons in the PL were about staying up - lets get back to what we do best. Support our team and sing our hearts out. NA is staying. So is my support for him.

 

Adkins - do it mate. Get this defence sorted and let's 4-4-2 ourselves with Lambert upfront to victory.

 

COYR

[trousers]

Seeing that Daily Mail articles are in favour today....

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2230493/Gordon-Strachan-wanted-Southampton.html

 

Scotland's hopes of landing Gordon Strachan as their new manager are under threat from gathering interest in the former Celtic boss by struggling Southampton.

The Saints are rooted to the bottom of the Premier League table with manager Nigel Adkins treading on very thin ice heading into Saturday's visit of Swansea to St Mary's.

Strachan, who managed the south coast club from 2001 to 2004, is being courted for a return to St Mary's by Saints chairman Nicola Cortese, according to The Sun.