Matthew Le Tissier Posted 6 November, 2012 Posted 6 November, 2012 As everyone says, no manager can save our defence really, NA cost us 2 or 3 games taking off lambo etc but most games have been defence mistakes, only suggestion is hire Gary Neville for a week to work on our defence, stick with him, his best bet is to bring back Sharp for extra fire power in jan and bring in a LB and if poss a pacey CB, then were be fine. People may laugh but its a no brainer that we need a Defensive coach . A quality experienced defender that can get our shower of **** half organised. Someone like mark wright or Gareth Southgate could do a job to help us. It's not always about the manager, he needs a good team around him.
CB Fry Posted 6 November, 2012 Posted 6 November, 2012 Keep your knickers on sweetheart. You're stealing my act. You need to stick to grizzling about other people wuining your lickle fowum.
the stain Posted 6 November, 2012 Posted 6 November, 2012 You're stealing my act. You need to stick to grizzling about other people wuining your lickle fowum. Oh dear.
K,Billy's supersound Posted 6 November, 2012 Posted 6 November, 2012 adkins is staying press statement tomorrow, vote of confidence.
S-Clarke Posted 6 November, 2012 Posted 6 November, 2012 Instill more confidence in the players, try a new approach that doesn't leave us so open (especially away from home.) Instil in the midfielders the importance of tracking back and defending from the front, even if it means we score less. Make us generally more difficult to beat. I want the manager to show a bit more passion which may translate to the players (they are really lacking some urgency and putting their bodies on the line as Neville suggests.) At the moment we are going down with a whimper and I want to see us fight for our place rather the slow buildup play that we see at the moment. I refuse to accept that under every available manager we would have conceded the joint most amount of goals in the history of the Premier league. We are better than that. Southampton deserves better. I think we'd be a little insulting to his intelligence to assume he's not trying that. Last night we weren't particularly open in my eyes, it was a kind of back to basics 4-4-2 display (or 4-2-4 when attacking). Decent shape about us throghout the team, but what can Adkins do when the CB decides to turn his back and flick a little foot at the ball? I don't think you can coach that, that comes natural as anticipation. Yoshida should have come towards the player and really stopped him from shooting. That goes down as an individual error for me, again. 2nd goal, Fox gets done on the wrong side. Great pace by Odimwinge, but Fox was on the wrong side. Again, I don't think you can coach that. It's just mistakes made by players who just don't seem capable up against half decent forwards. Yoshida is actually starting to worry me, as he looks pretty rubbish.
S-Clarke Posted 6 November, 2012 Posted 6 November, 2012 adkins is staying press statement tomorrow, vote of confidence. Interesting, but you can't say we're not giving in a fair crack at this. He deserves it too, and personally I'd prefer to have him as manager during these next few weeks as opposed to a care-taker and then a new guy. Back to basics, get the points, reassess in December.
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 6 November, 2012 Posted 6 November, 2012 Yoshida doesn't look good enough that's for sure. I would take Jos all day long. He's just a little low on confidence at the moment that's all. Jos is a good centre half. Yoshida just has that look about him that nothing Comes natural and everything's an effort. That was proven when he dangled his leg out like he was doing gangman style
Crab Lungs Posted 6 November, 2012 Posted 6 November, 2012 Yoshida doesn't look good enough that's for sure. I would take Jos all day long. He's just a little low on confidence at the moment that's all. Jos is a good centre half. Yoshida just has that look about him that nothing Comes natural and everything's an effort. That was proven when he dangled his leg out like he was doing gangman style You think you're being witty, or clever, but you aren't.
S-Clarke Posted 6 November, 2012 Posted 6 November, 2012 Yoshida doesn't look good enough that's for sure. I would take Jos all day long. He's just a little low on confidence at the moment that's all. Jos is a good centre half. Yoshida just has that look about him that nothing Comes natural and everything's an effort. That was proven when he dangled his leg out like he was doing gangman style I did think Yoshida was supposed to be a decent footballing centre half, but he looks very last ditch in everything he does and very panicky. May be confidence, but apart from the Villa game, I've not been too impressed.
latter day saint Posted 6 November, 2012 Posted 6 November, 2012 Yoshida should have come towards the player and really stopped him from shooting. That goes down as an individual error for me, again wasn't it Morgan that just stood about 5 feet away & then turned his back to the shot ? it was after it passed him that Yoshida being unsighted stuck a leg out deflecting it away from Gazza
S-Clarke Posted 6 November, 2012 Posted 6 November, 2012 wasn't it Morgan that just stood about 5 feet away & then turned his back to the shot ? it was after it passed him that Yoshida being unsighted stuck a leg out deflecting it away from Gazza Morgan went on a stroll as well, for sure. He didn't close down anything all night. It was still a pretty ****ty attempt at a block by Yoshida though. I hate it when defenders just fling their leg a little at a shot, without any conviction what so ever, and then looked stunned in that it's lead to a deflected goal.
Dig Dig Posted 6 November, 2012 Posted 6 November, 2012 wasn't it Morgan that just stood about 5 feet away & then turned his back to the shot ? it was after it passed him that Yoshida being unsighted stuck a leg out deflecting it away from Gazza Yes Morgan was at fault like you say but if Yoshida had retreated any further he'd have been in goal with Gazzaniga. He should have come towards the ball as well
Lord Duckhunter Posted 6 November, 2012 Posted 6 November, 2012 It's funny how Yoshida is getting the blame for the first goal when clearly Morgan bottled it, didn't sprint out to close down the shot and ponced about like a big fairy turning his back. I guess he's exempt from criticism.
Saint Garrett Posted 6 November, 2012 Posted 6 November, 2012 I blame Lallana personally, then Morgan, then Yoshida. Should never have been able to get that shot off.
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 6 November, 2012 Posted 6 November, 2012 To be fair on him he stuck his leg out and that was instinct. Sometimes it just happens as he's only human after all. The player shouldn't even been allowed to get a shot on in the first place. In a ideal world yoshods should have left it for gazza However he didn't know where gazza was and if gazza was no where need it and he didn't stick his leg out to stop it people would be slating him for not trying to stop it. However I don't think he's all that based on all his performances to date. Not including his poor full back matches.
latter day saint Posted 6 November, 2012 Posted 6 November, 2012 I blame Lallana personally, then Morgan, then Yoshida. Should never have been able to get that shot off. more annoyed with Morgan than the other 2 who must take some of the blame for the goal but at least they were trying unlike that french surrender monkey ! Gary Neville was not impressed at all after the game
shurlock Posted 6 November, 2012 Posted 6 November, 2012 Morgan went on a stroll as well, for sure. He didn't close down anything all night. It was still a pretty ****ty attempt at a block by Yoshida though. I hate it when defenders just fling their leg a little at a shot, without any conviction what so ever, and then looked stunned in that it's lead to a deflected goal. Easy to say watching it on TV. We were right behind it. Nothing to do with conviction - the ball came in a flash and Yoshida reacted instinctively. There was no way he was controlling that.
SuperMikey Posted 6 November, 2012 Posted 6 November, 2012 more annoyed with Morgan than the other 2 who must take some of the blame for the goal but at least they were trying unlike that french surrender monkey ! Gary Neville was not impressed at all after the game *high pitched voice* "HE'S RUBBISH!"
Wes Tender Posted 6 November, 2012 Posted 6 November, 2012 Well, it's over 24 hours since our ignominious defeat against WBA and nothing has happened yet. Adkins' replacement must be travelling one heck of a distance not to have arrived here yet. Or could the rumours be just that; rumours, Chinese whispers with no foundation? It wouldn't be the first time.
sandwichsaint Posted 6 November, 2012 Posted 6 November, 2012 Forget Dalek's yo-yo theory. It's time to introduce our new ro-ro manager approach. Nothings too far out-of-the-box for our wacky, free-thinking, Southampton Way. Local press? Who needs them? Pay to park to shop in the club shop? Brian Potter at his best. Play four forwards away from home? We'll **** this League. Bigger than Everton? U better believe it bro. No need for costly and messy pay-off compensation, just relegate NA to water carrier, pitch-forker, and programme seller for the next 6 months. Bring in a name manager (cough! 'arry) to re-arrange the deckchairs, continue to under-achieve in the eyes of the fans and gently watch us subside back into the second division (that's the Championship for younger viewers). Hey presto! We start life in the second division with the more suitable and completely refreshed and wiser manager and Mr Bigbucks buggers off with more of our money and more Stains (that's an anagram) on his CV. What's not to like? The ruin of HR and the rebirth of NA, and lots more Saturday 3pm kick-offs ... forget the yo-yo strategy and get behind the ro-ro approach .... SFC, re-inventing football since 2010.
Jonnyboy Posted 7 November, 2012 Posted 7 November, 2012 Yoshi was letting Odemtjhingy get shots away too easily before that goal.
MAY-Z Posted 7 November, 2012 Posted 7 November, 2012 I have a question - what are the likes of terry venables, Howard wilkinson, Glenn hoddle etc doing now? We should look at hiring an ex- premiership manager who no longer wants a manager role to be a senior assistant to Adkins, if we want Adkins to stay. Someone who can give a bit of a fresh approach to both Adkins and the team In the AFL this coaching set up has been well implemented in the last couple of seasons with ex senior coaches taking on this role with first time senior coaches
Lord Duckhunter Posted 7 November, 2012 Posted 7 November, 2012 I have a question - what are the likes of terry venables, Howard wilkinson, Glenn hoddle etc doing now? We should look at hiring an ex- premiership manager who no longer wants a manager role to be a senior assistant to Adkins, if we want Adkins to stay. Someone who can give a bit of a fresh approach to both Adkins and the team In the AFL this coaching set up has been well implemented in the last couple of seasons with ex senior coaches taking on this role with first time senior coaches pulis has done this pretty well at stoke, he has John rudge and I think Gerry Francis and used to have Peter Reid. Personally,despite his skate connection I'd like to see Joe Jordan back at the club in some coaching role
Saint Scott Posted 7 November, 2012 Posted 7 November, 2012 pulis has done this pretty well at stoke, he has John rudge and I think Gerry Francis and used to have Peter Reid. Personally,despite his skate connection I'd like to see Joe Jordan back at the club in some coaching role This. However, the only way it would happen is in a package deal with Redknapp.
pimpin4rizeal Posted 7 November, 2012 Posted 7 November, 2012 Yoshida doesn't look good enough that's for sure. I would take Jos all day long. He's just a little low on confidence at the moment that's all. Jos is a good centre half. Yoshida just has that look about him that nothing Comes natural and everything's an effort. That was proven when he dangled his leg out like he was doing gangman style I think yoshida looks comfirtable on the ball and has got god passing. But still not,sure if he makes us any more as solid
Thedelldays Posted 7 November, 2012 Posted 7 November, 2012 Vialli is supposed to be targeted Supposed being the word
ericofarabia Posted 7 November, 2012 Posted 7 November, 2012 Vialli is supposed to be targeted Supposed being the word So now anybody who is Italian is going to be put up as our next manager saga begins.
Saintjersey Posted 7 November, 2012 Posted 7 November, 2012 Vialli is supposed to be targeted Supposed being the word When did he last managed? A decade ago?
Legod Third Coming Posted 7 November, 2012 Posted 7 November, 2012 I have a question - what are the likes of terry venables, Howard wilkinson, Glenn hoddle etc doing now? We should look at hiring an ex- premiership manager who no longer wants a manager role to be a senior assistant to Adkins, if we want Adkins to stay. Someone who can give a bit of a fresh approach to both Adkins and the team In the AFL this coaching set up has been well implemented in the last couple of seasons with ex senior coaches taking on this role with first time senior coaches This is a very ineresting appraoch - but don't we already have a sporting director? It's clear we have a strategy to play football the right way so we can't just ditch Adkins and hire any old manager. It would have to be a manager who understands this approach - like Pep! But actually, we would be better keeping Adkins and having someone he can genuinely talk to and learn from. It's no surprise the best managers in the world worked for the best managers in the world. Jose and Pep learned their trade from the great man.
St_Tel49 Posted 7 November, 2012 Posted 7 November, 2012 Agree. However, if we keep getting dicked then players confidence in the manager will be smashed to bits and will linger on next season. Yes - but the reason they are getting dicked is because the PLAYERS weren't doing their job. That was made more than clear in the post match analysis. Time to stop getting on Adkins back and perhaps put the blame where it really lies (but not during game!!)
Turkish Posted 7 November, 2012 Posted 7 November, 2012 When did he last managed? A decade ago? Wasn't it spectacular success at Watford? I expect we'll see plenty of Italians linked in the next month or so.
OldNick Posted 7 November, 2012 Posted 7 November, 2012 like some players that do well in the lower divisions and know their way around those leagues and then get to the top league and cannot cut the mustard, the same can be said of managers. NA has made some terrible decisions and that has cost us 5-6 points already.
Torres Posted 7 November, 2012 Posted 7 November, 2012 But actually, we would be better keeping Adkins and having someone he can genuinely talk to and learn from. It's no surprise the best managers in the world worked for the best managers in the world. Jose and Pep learned their trade from the great man. I think any approach for him is going to be met with stony silence, tbf.
CaneNero Posted 7 November, 2012 Posted 7 November, 2012 Will be manager for the game on Saturday. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/southampton/9658684/Nigel-Adkins-survives-day-of-crunch-talks-with-Southampton-chairman.html http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/nov/07/nigel-adkins-southampton-swansea?
Easty Posted 7 November, 2012 Posted 7 November, 2012 Vialli is supposed to be targeted Supposed being the word Heard the Moose talking about that at 5.30 this morning , was talking about Vialli and Paolo Di Canio Apparently NC went to school with De Canio
Turkish Posted 7 November, 2012 Posted 7 November, 2012 Heard the Moose talking about that at 5.30 this morning , was talking about Vialli and Paolo Di Canio Apparently NC went to school with De Canio I was told he knows Di Matteo well and actually wanted to bring him in in the summer before he got the Chelsea job. Feel free to believe or dismiss this, i am only saying what i was told.
doddisalegend Posted 7 November, 2012 Posted 7 November, 2012 Heard the Moose talking about that at 5.30 this morning , was talking about Vialli and Paolo Di Canio Apparently NC went to school with De Canio I bet Di Canio used to beat him up for his lunch money....
Thedelldays Posted 7 November, 2012 Posted 7 November, 2012 I was told he knows Di Matteo well and actually wanted to bring him in in the summer before he got the Chelsea job. Feel free to believe or dismiss this, i am only saying what i was told. he would probably be our manager now if they never fluked the CL
DT Posted 7 November, 2012 Posted 7 November, 2012 Vialli would be a terrible idea and di Canio is a fascist. Next.
Turkish Posted 7 November, 2012 Posted 7 November, 2012 he would probably be our manager now if they never fluked the CL that is what i am lead to believe. Chelsea wanted Guardiola and he wanted to take a year out so they gave it to Di Matteo based on his champions league win. If Guardiola had taken the job i'm fairly sure Di Matteo would be at Saints now.* *feel free to believe or dismiss this, i am only saying what i was told
kpturner Posted 7 November, 2012 Posted 7 November, 2012 *high pitched voice* "HE'S RUBBISH!" Pedant alert - he didn't say "He's rubbish" he said "That's rubbish" .....i.e. describing the act, not the general ability of the player.
ecuk268 Posted 7 November, 2012 Posted 7 November, 2012 Apparently NC went to school with De Canio Really? Di Canio grew up in Rome and NC was educated in Switzerland.
Turkish Posted 7 November, 2012 Posted 7 November, 2012 Really? Di Canio grew up in Rome and NC was educated in Switzerland. He meant Jedi school
Tokyo-Saint Posted 7 November, 2012 Posted 7 November, 2012 Cortese always had protection at school. Di Canio respected that, fascists love a firm hand.
DT Posted 7 November, 2012 Posted 7 November, 2012 Cortese always had protection at school. Di Canio respected that, fascists love a firm hand. Saints unveil their new back three
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