Griffo Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 Deserve a chance until the end of the season? You ****ing sure? As lovely as that is, the premier league is a business. A business that I couldn't care less about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 A business that I couldn't care less about. but the club does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 Still supporting Adkins and hope he gets at least to Jan to try and turn it round. If he does go definitely don't want Redknapp anywhere near saints. Would love Saints to be able to attract the likes of Bielsa but think it is farfetched that he'd be interested in Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 Cracking post fella, really informative and actually reminded me of why I visit football forums when I get a chance. Was at Athletic Club's ground last week, brilliant location slap bang in the middle of town and looks like a proper dive from the outside (couldn't go inside as the tours/ shop etc were shut due to their 4hr lunch break). Athletic Club are a huge club though, basically a national side (Basque) so would need a hell of an offer to get him here, also with the cultural differences, time to adapt formations/ players and the unwillingness of fans in this country to go anything other than 442 it would be tough to convince him. Thanks I need to ge my arse into gear and purchase full membership so I can post more as my pay-pal was playing up last time, agree with regards to Athletic being a big club but I think the relationship is not good with the president as he threatened to walk out around July time if I remember rightly. Other guys to consider would be Jorge Sampoli - http://backpagefootball.com/jorge-sampaoli-footballing-progressive/44122/ He took Universidad de Chile to the South American equivalent of the Europa cup and some how only conceded 2 goals in the comp and had the leading scorer in the comp. That victory is probably the biggest win in chilean club football from what I understand as my Chilean mate was going nuts about them. The guy is a preparation machine. Other one who has gone off the radar could be Frank Rijkaard whose currently head coach for Saudi Arabia. Rumours are that he is being lined up for AC Milan if they sack their guy, but he would be excellent given his pedigree with Ajax/Barca and has worked under our structure successfully. He has the right mentality for English football, has a massive name so can attract players and lives/breathes 4-3-3. AC Milan Link:http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1201042/frank-rijkaard-'being-lined-up-for-ac-milan-job'?cc=3888 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 IMO we missed a trick with Sean Dyche going to Burnley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenSaint Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 Cracking post fella, really informative and actually reminded me of why I visit football forums when I get a chance. Was at Athletic Club's ground last week, brilliant location slap bang in the middle of town and looks like a proper dive from the outside (couldn't go inside as the tours/ shop etc were shut due to their 4hr lunch break). Athletic Club are a huge club though, basically a national side (Basque) so would need a hell of an offer to get him here, also with the cultural differences, time to adapt formations/ players and the unwillingness of fans in this country to go anything other than 442 it would be tough to convince him. Yes would be a great catch to get him as manager but if anyone still thinks the 442 formation still works in the premier/europe they need their heads checking. That type of formation is very much like what Brazil often use and i could see us using this type of formation with some success. If we were to use that formation i would prefer Cork/Jwp or even Hammond in that CM role not Davis, he has not convinced me at all as that role would mean he would have to do alot of running and closing down that is not Davis at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 They've got reports outside Staplewood talking live, the press coverage is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 IMO we missed a trick with Sean Dyche going to Burnley. A manager that has only had a good brief spell as a manager in the Championship and hasn't achieved as much as Adkins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 A manager that has only had a good brief spell as a manager in the Championship and hasn't achieved as much as Adkins... Its not about achievement, its about motivating a squad of professionals. Dyche is KING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 A manager that has only had a good brief spell as a manager in the Championship and hasn't achieved as much as Adkins... He was joking (i hope) of course, humour is lost on you young Matthew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/southampton/9658684/Southampton-on-verge-of-sacking-Nigel-Adkins-if-a-suitable-replacement-is-available-quickly.html Sounds like Cortese is being realistic about finding a replacement before saying goodbye to Nige. Considering that NC keeps his counsel very much to himself where has this journo got his information from?? Absolutely this. Both the telegraph and mail articles just look like uninformed statements of the bleeding obvious. They add nothing whatsoever to what we already know, which is that NA is a prem manager at a club thats struggling badly and bottom of the table, and that there are very few realistic replacements available. Speculative "reporting", with no sources and very probably no basis. Nigel could well get sacked, I hope not, but he might. The newspaper speculation is just that; speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 A business that I couldn't care less about. Bad business decisions can spell the end for a club. It was business that nearly destroyed this club and could have left us without a club to support, moan about and argue over. It was business that salvaged it and brought it back to where it is today. As much as I hate the balance of football being in favour of business, it is what it is and we have to care about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/southampton/9658684/Southampton-on-verge-of-sacking-Nigel-Adkins-if-a-suitable-replacement-is-available-quickly.html Sounds like Cortese is being realistic about finding a replacement before saying goodbye to Nige. As realistic as that article sounds, there isn't one quote in it and we know NC isn't doing interviews on this subject, so it can be put in the same fairytale category as the more sensational 'bring back Harry' articles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 So after six pages this has been found out as false rumours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 As realistic as that article sounds, there isn't one quote in it and we know NC isn't doing interviews on this subject, so it can be put in the same fairytale category as the more sensational 'bring back Harry' articles. Isn't that journo a Saints fan? I'm sure there's one at the telegraph who did an in-depth article on us a while back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 My oppo from Wolves has just text me saying that the footballing jungle drums are saying that NC is actively looking for a replacement for NA. He's not often wrong and has excellent connections at our club due to certain "liaisons"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 My oppo from Wolves has just text me saying that the footballing jungle drums are saying that NC is actively looking for a replacement for NA. He's not often wrong and has excellent connections at our club due to certain "liaisons"! Is he the one that upset a lot on here by saying Matt Jarvis wouldn't join us as he didn't want to be relegated again?!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammon cheeks Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 After the end of this month' date=' we have played all the top sides except Chelsea, no one who has experienced saints in the top flight before expected us to be in anything other than a relegation fight, problem is it looks like it will be down to the 15000 hardcore to lead the fight as the JCL start to moan[/quote'] As a 48 year old saints fan i have experienced many a game in the top flight! we are in a relegation fight but was Adkins not talking about Europe before the season started ? We have been found out big time and to spend 30 million on players is something we never had the luxury of last time we were in the top flight. I hope he does turn it round but cant see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 Is he the one that upset a lot on here by saying Matt Jarvis wouldn't join us as he didn't want to be relegated again?!!! Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 Your clueless. Changing the manager will do absolutely nothing but upset everything we have built up over the last 2-3 years. We'll be back to square one; new formations, new style. Players will have to get used to all that. Sacking the manager is the worst way to solve our current situation. Its beyond me why people think sacking a manager is the answer. Personally I think its the only option simpletons can think of. Excuse me for being a 'Simpleton' but the players have singularly failed to get used the present 'style' and 'formation' so a new one will not confuse them any more. You make an excellent case for the prosecution in that we have no successful system now so changing things will not have an adverse effect on that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 The chairman at blackpool has said he has received cv's from managers that are currently employed by other clubs (obviously through their agents) so perhaps Nigel is feathering his nest for the inevitable.......personally if I was the chairman of blackpool I wouldn't even entertain such approaches as the managers in question obviously can't be trusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 Francis benali's views Really hopes we stick with NA Good manager best man for job Chopping and changing won't help or give better chance of staying up Rumours of stuff behind scenes just rumour Every ex pro, pundits, presenter, other club fams on phonw in, all say should keep him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 The chairman at blackpool has said he has received cv's from managers that are currently employed by other clubs (obviously through their agents) so perhaps Nigel is feathering his nest for the inevitable.......personally if I was the chairman of blackpool I wouldn't even entertain such approaches as the managers in question obviously can't be trusted. Have you never applied for a job when you've been already employed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 My oppo from Wolves has just text me saying that the footballing jungle drums are saying that NC is actively looking for a replacement for NA. He's not often wrong and has excellent connections at our club due to certain "liaisons"![/QUOTE] Which player is he ****ging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 Have you never applied for a job when you've been already employed? Would be a bit hard to keep secret as I work for myself........but good luck to Nigel if he has,it's time for him to move on and I wish him well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 My oppo from Wolves has just text me saying that the footballing jungle drums are saying that NC is actively looking for a replacement for NA. He's not often wrong and has excellent connections at our club due to certain "liaisons"![/QUOTE] Which player is he ****ging Fonte's missus gets around, doesn't she? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/southampton/9658684/Southampton-on-verge-of-sacking-Nigel-Adkins-if-a-suitable-replacement-is-available-quickly.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 Fonte's missus gets around, doesn't she? Obviously better positional sense than her fella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 My oppo from Wolves has just text me saying that the footballing jungle drums are saying that NC is actively looking for a replacement for NA. He's not often wrong and has excellent connections at our club due to certain "liaisons"! take your word for it....be interesting to know what decent managers would do the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 obviously better positional sense than her fella Outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 Good. I'd rather go down with him in charge, and give him another year. If he doesn't look as if he will bring us back up, that is the time to sack him. We're trying to build a long term successful club here ...not just a vehicle for some temporary mercenary. That means trusting and supporting someone, even if they have a poor spell. Some of you lot need to have a word with yourselves. Well done to the fans singing his name last night btw. Couldn't agree more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch01 Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 And not forgetting his strange comments after the Coventry game. Seems he was already losing control of team issues and we werent listening properly. Nevertheless, he has decided to work like this for the past 5 months, so a large share of the blame is still his. I honestly think the Coventry comments were nothing more than Nigel being more than a little overcome by the emotion of the day, expressing how much the football club had come to mean to him and that it would be a sad day when he eventually left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 take your word for it....be interesting to know what decent managers would do the job That might be the problem if the rumours about the transfer setup are to be believed. You can imagine him trying to sell the job to Benitez. "you will be manager Rafa, but me and this old failed Charlton manager will be choosing which players to buy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 It'd just be one more cliched steretype of a non-descript club with pathetic fans to be honest. Moan all summer after promotion, moan about signings, moan about losing to better sides, lie about your expectations, get on players backs immediately, show zero loyalty to anyone that helped get the club up, see keeper and defensive changes make the mess worse, but demand more change, write off everything before christmas then sack a good young manager. Be sure to keep up the predictable drivel by giving the new manager a week to sign the 11 new players you want, then moan about taking too long to gel, not signing them quick enough, not using the players from before you now think weren't so bad and wondering why no-one getting paid lots actually seems to give two fcks about your club. If he does perform and keep the club up, be sure to get on your high horse about loyalty when the manager leaves for a better job or players demand transfers. Such a shame those promotions have produced so many depressingly ungrateful and relentlessly predictable 'supporters'. I'd say enjoy the season but win, lose or draw, you won't. Well put - I agree completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 As a 48 year old saints fan i have experienced many a game in the top flight! we are in a relegation fight but was Adkins not talking about Europe before the season started ? We have been found out big time and to spend 30 million on players is something we never had the luxury of last time we were in the top flight. I hope he does turn it round but cant see it. but how many really believe in the b/s about Europe, and to be fair half of that money was on 1 player who has been out for the last few weeks.4th from bottom was the target and is still achievable. But 3 wins in November are essential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 Have you never applied for a job when you've been already employed? This wouldn't surprise me at all. Like i said before there's only so much Nigel will take from the chairman and will decide he does t want to be a part of the chairmans management team and does not want be the man to front the chairmans team and player selections and have his reputation suffer for the poor decisions he is being told to make. Either way Adkins won't be around for much longer which is a shame as if he was left to do his job I think he could have give it a good crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 That might be the problem if the rumours about the transfer setup are to be believed. You can imagine him trying to sell the job to Benitez. "you will be manager Rafa, but me and this old failed Charlton manager will be choosing which players to buy". these transfer committees are pretty common these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 Is he the one that upset a lot on here by saying Matt Jarvis wouldn't join us as he didn't want to be relegated again?!!! ok but Jarvis is a known bellend . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(not THE) Kevin Moore Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 Well put - I agree completely As do I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redder freak Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 Mark Hughes and Nigel Adkins are going to do a job swap. You heard it here first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 The holier than thou crowd that would attempt to impugn anyone with a critical opinion do themselves no favours. I like Nigel, but have been extremely disappointed in the manner of our defeats and general disjointedness of the team. Last night looked like a "back to basics" approach to me. I can understand that with the amount of individual errors that the team have committed, such an approach might seem sensible; but even last night, players under no pressure were making bad passes. As many others have said, the confidence looks shot. I'm more optimistic than most. I'd hoped that we'd pull clear of the relegation zone and establish a top half finish by the end of the season. Those expectations might seem mental in hindsight; but a big part of that was an assumption that Nigel Adkins would be able to apply his methods in this league successfully. So far, what is the evidence that he has? Sorry chaps; Nigel's Premiership record is appalling. I acknowledge the fine job he has done with back-to-back promotions, but at the same time, it is so difficult to ignore our league position and lack of progress on all fronts. Can't win. Can't keep a clean sheet. You can blame individual errors all you want; but you could also argue that it's the job of the manager to weed that stuff out. As others have pointed out; we've shipped players because they were supposedly not up to Premiership level. At what stage is it ok to suggest that a change of management might be required? Ken Tone would prefer to get relegated with Adkins in charge. Does he get a full season in the Championship again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 It'd just be one more cliched steretype of a non-descript club with pathetic fans to be honest. Moan all summer after promotion, moan about signings, moan about losing to better sides, lie about your expectations, get on players backs immediately, show zero loyalty to anyone that helped get the club up, see keeper and defensive changes make the mess worse, but demand more change, write off everything before christmas then sack a good young manager. Be sure to keep up the predictable drivel by giving the new manager a week to sign the 11 new players you want, then moan about taking too long to gel, not signing them quick enough, not using the players from before you now think weren't so bad and wondering why no-one getting paid lots actually seems to give two fcks about your club. If he does perform and keep the club up, be sure to get on your high horse about loyalty when the manager leaves for a better job or players demand transfers. Such a shame those promotions have produced so many depressingly ungrateful and relentlessly predictable 'supporters'. I'd say enjoy the season but win, lose or draw, you won't. I agree. Any rival fan passing by this board must be p*ssing themselves with laughter over how pathetic we are. And most evaluations in here have to be black/white superlatives - Fox is the worst defender ever, Davis is useless, Adkins is clueless, Lallana can't defend etc. Not really conducive for any kind of dialogue, but then again maybe that's not the ambition... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 He needs to be sacked (and has been) for a while because his gung ho entertain the fans systems are destroying the players. Only an idiot would align Lambert,Rodriguez,Lallana and Ramirez away from home. Just sack him soonest if you please Mr C and let us get on with becoming a real PL side and not a bunch of fancy nancies. We should be doing what West Ham are doing. Who cares if their fans boo them, theyt'll be in the PL next season and we won't if NA is allowed to carry on with his suicidal systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 Mark Hughes and Nigel Adkins are going to do a job swap. You heard it here first. Please no!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 I think we should show Nigel a bit of loyalty and support - we will turn the corner soon and i will be interested to hear what some of you are saying then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 I think we should show Nigel a bit of loyalty and support - we will turn the corner soon and i will be interested to hear what some of you are saying then! not from me, he's had his chance and has screwed it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 Mark Hughes and Nigel Adkins are going to do a job swap. You heard it here first. what on earth would QPR want Adkins for, do they want to be in the NPC next season, exploring new horizons or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 what on earth would QPR want Adkins for, do they want to be in the NPC next season, exploring new horizons or something? Fulham probably don't; QPR would probably be more worried by this idea though... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 I agree. Any rival fan passing by this board must be p*ssing themselves with laughter over how pathetic we are. And most evaluations in here have to be black/white superlatives - Fox is the worst defender ever, Davis is useless, Adkins is clueless, Lallana can't defend etc. Not really conducive for any kind of dialogue, but then again maybe that's not the ambition... Hear hear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 Mark Hughes and Nigel Adkins are going to do a job swap. You heard it here first. Christ on a bike. This forum ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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