rumours of Adkins being Sacked

[fish fingers]

Has anyone checked Wikipedia? Surely that will confirm.

[The Kraken]

I bet you can't find two posts from the same poster to back up that ascertainmode>

 

I bet you I can't be bothered to try, either.

[The9]

I still maintain there is not much between us and the teams ACTUALLY in the bottom half of the league!

 

I think the point is that we will find out in the next 8 matches. By Dec 29th when we play Arsenal for the second time we'll have played everyone except Chelsea.

[sotonist]

Really what about the people that made the signings? Adkins has been stitched by a power hungry loon that's in charge of the club, sad people can't see beyond the Cortese as savior thing since it's becoming more and more apparent what an arse he is.

 

Adkins hasn't made it obvious that he was dissatisfied with any signings. He even expressed excitement about them. If he's not in charge, he's complicit in the scheme that doesn't work.

 

Either the scheme has to go or he does. Anybody got a few spare tens of millions to hand to convince the scheme to go away? no, thought not.

[Colinjb]

Has anyone checked Wikipedia? Surely that will confirm.

 

Well teams managed says:

 

Southampton 2010-2012

 

Oh my.....

[Fitzhugh Fella]

I know the club doesn´t reply on rumours etc - but for once a denial on Twitter saying this is just bull would be an OK move from the club now.

 

 

I agree - this speculation cannot be a good thing and it has become too loud to ignore.

If NC does not intend to sack NA perhaps it is a good time to make a statement so we can all then start concentrating on beating Swansea.

[Colinjb]

I agree - this speculation cannot be a good thing and it has become too loud to ignore.

If NC does not intend to sack NA perhaps it is a good time to make a statement so we can all then start concentrating on beating Swansea.

 

I concur. Not for our benefit but for that of the players. If they believe the manager is about to go how will they be able to give him their best?

 

Hopefully an internal club statement of confidence has already been provided.

[Verbal Kint]

Genuine question - where has NC done this? Or is it implied IF Nigel is sacked?

 

His complete silence for the last few weeks whilst Adkins has had to field constant questions on his future and look increasingly pressured in the process speaks volumes

[sotonist]

Well teams managed says:

 

Southampton 2010-2012

 

Oh my.....

Hang on, let me check my mayan calendar.

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Because I knew I was right at the time.

 

I find it more frustrating than you obviously.

[trousers]

I bet you I can't be bothered to try, either.

 

Had an inkling that would be the convenient answer....

[notnowcato]

His complete silence for the last few weeks whilst Adkins has had to field constant questions on his future and look increasingly pressured in the process speaks volumes

 

I don't remember NC taking all the praise when we were promoted, so I'm of the opinion that this current behaviour is at least consistent.

[Colinjb]

I don't remember NC taking all the praise when we were promoted, so I'm of the opinion that this current behaviour is at least consistent.

 

Indeed, but don't let that get in the way of a good rant.

[hypochondriac]

It'd just be one more cliched steretype of a non-descript club with pathetic fans to be honest. Moan all summer after promotion, moan about signings, moan about losing to better sides, lie about your expectations, get on players backs immediately, show zero loyalty to anyone that helped get the club up, see keeper and defensive changes make the mess worse, but demand more change, write off everything before christmas then sack a good young manager.

 

Be sure to keep up the predictable drivel by giving the new manager a week to sign the 11 new players you want, then moan about taking too long to gel, not signing them quick enough, not using the players from before you now think weren't so bad and wondering why no-one getting paid lots actually seems to give two fcks about your club. If he does perform and keep the club up, be sure to get on your high horse about loyalty when the manager leaves for a better job or players demand transfers.

 

Such a shame those promotions have produced so many depressingly ungrateful and relentlessly predictable 'supporters'. I'd say enjoy the season but win, lose or draw, you won't.

 

Yet another patronising superior rant from Adrian. Are you sure the lower half of the Premiership is exactly the same as the top of the npc?

[Colinjb]

Yet another patronising superior rant from Adrian.

 

He has a point though. There are posters on here who would moan regardless of what was happening!

[notnowcato]

Are you sure the lower half of the Premiership is exactly the same as the top of the npc?

 

haha- maybe you could ask West Ham fans

[Big Bad Bob]

Yet another patronising superior rant from Adrian.

 

Patronising and superior it may be but it's right.

 

Truth hurts

[Turkish]

You've contradicted yourself.

 

How is it b*llocks when you've confirmed that he has a direct advisor? He has clearly taken measures to remedy the situation, yet as with all business, he will take time to get things right.

 

I dont really get what you mean Colin? How have i contradicted myself? You said the club was learning and this is the excuse, not me. And as you and i both said, he has an advisor. This advisor is a man whose glowing CV includes 0 games of top flight playing experience, being sacked by the FA, voted the worst manager in history at Charlton and assist manager at the mighty Bishops Stortford. That is the man advising our CEO on football decision. I dont buy your "club is learning" excuse because we have a trusted advisor helping the CEO.

[Verbal Kint]

It'd just be one more cliched steretype of a non-descript club with pathetic fans to be honest. Moan all summer after promotion, moan about signings, moan about losing to better sides, lie about your expectations, get on players backs immediately, show zero loyalty to anyone that helped get the club up, see keeper and defensive changes make the mess worse, but demand more change, write off everything before christmas then sack a good young manager.

 

Be sure to keep up the predictable drivel by giving the new manager a week to sign the 11 new players you want, then moan about taking too long to gel, not signing them quick enough, not using the players from before you now think weren't so bad and wondering why no-one getting paid lots actually seems to give two fcks about your club. If he does perform and keep the club up, be sure to get on your high horse about loyalty when the manager leaves for a better job or players demand transfers.

 

Such a shame those promotions have produced so many depressingly ungrateful and relentlessly predictable 'supporters'. I'd say enjoy the season but win, lose or draw, you won't.

 

Spot on Adrian, and thankfully supporters at the games feel similarly to you. The support for the team and Adkins last night was FANTASTIC. It's just the internet mongs that don't get it

[Torres]

It'd just be one more cliched steretype of a non-descript club with pathetic fans to be honest. Moan all summer after promotion, moan about signings, moan about losing to better sides, lie about your expectations, get on players backs immediately, show zero loyalty to anyone that helped get the club up, see keeper and defensive changes make the mess worse, but demand more change, write off everything before christmas then sack a good young manager.

 

Be sure to keep up the predictable drivel by giving the new manager a week to sign the 11 new players you want, then moan about taking too long to gel, not signing them quick enough, not using the players from before you now think weren't so bad and wondering why no-one getting paid lots actually seems to give two fcks about your club. If he does perform and keep the club up, be sure to get on your high horse about loyalty when the manager leaves for a better job or players demand transfers.

 

Such a shame those promotions have produced so many depressingly ungrateful and relentlessly predictable 'supporters'. I'd say enjoy the season but win, lose or draw, you won't.

 

[Midfield_General]

Good. I'd rather go down with him in charge, and give him another year. If he doesn't look as if he will bring us back up, that is the time to sack him. We're trying to build a long term successful club here ...not just a vehicle for some temporary mercenary. That means trusting and supporting someone, even if they have a poor spell.

 

Some of you lot need to have a word with yourselves. Well done to the fans singing his name last night btw.

 

Absolutely, 100% this.

[hasper57saint]

Don't know if anyone else has posted this because I haven't been arsed to check BU, if this is true then EVERY Saints Player should hang their heads in shame. Last night showed that the players are NOT listening to any advice. Turning your back on a football is a criminal offence in my book. Who was the last person you heard of to die from being hit by a football? When you are 15 yards ahead of an opposing forward how does he catch up and score? Not NA's fault at all. It's the bloody players.

Rant over.

[shurlock]

I dont really get what you mean Colin? How have i contradicted myself? You said the club was learning and this is the excuse, not me. And as you and i both said, he has an advisor. This advisor is a man whose glowing CV includes 0 games of top flight playing experience, being sacked by the FA, voted the worst manager in history at Charlton and assist manager at the mighty Bishops Stortford. That is the man advising our CEO on football decision. I dont buy your "club is learning" excuse because we have a trusted advisor helping the CEO.

 

You forget the two back-to-back promotions if you assume rightly or wrongly Reed's running the show. That far outweighs a painful start to what was always going to be difficult season. Even if we go down, we'll still be in a stronger position than if we had kicked around in the NPC for two years.

[Colinjb]

I dont really get what you mean Colin? How have i contradicted myself? You said the club was learning and this is the excuse, not me. And as you and i both said, he has an advisor. This advisor is a man whose glowing CV includes 0 games of top flight playing experience, being sacked by the FA, voted the worst manager in history at Charlton and assist manager at the mighty Bishops Stortford. That is the man advising our CEO on football decision. I dont buy your "club is learning" excuse because we have a trusted advisor helping the CEO.

 

You have claimed that an excuse that the CEO is learning his trade in the job as being rubbish. He has appointed an advisor to help him therefore the point is moot, yes?

 

Then you undermine that by showing how poor a choice he may be for that role.

 

Nicola Cortese's poor choice of advisor could well be part of his learning. It is obvious he is not getting everything right, therefore he still has much to learn. And his need to grow into the role is hindering us in some ways in the short term. It is without question a factor and far from your original eloquent suggestion of 'boll*cks.'

[Turkish]

You forget the two back-to-back promotions if you assume rightly or wrongly Reed's running the show. That far outweighs a painful start to what was always going to be difficult season. Even if we go down, we'll still be in a stronger position than if we had kicked around in the NPC for two years.

 

We've already been over my view on Reeds role in the promotions. I'm not doing it again.

[the stain]

Good. I'd rather go down with him in charge, and give him another year. If he doesn't look as if he will bring us back up, that is the time to sack him. We're trying to build a long term successful club here ...not just a vehicle for some temporary mercenary. That means trusting and supporting someone, even if they have a poor spell.

 

Some of you lot need to have a word with yourselves. Well done to the fans singing his name last night btw.

 

It'd just be one more cliched steretype of a non-descript club with pathetic fans to be honest. Moan all summer after promotion, moan about signings, moan about losing to better sides, lie about your expectations, get on players backs immediately, show zero loyalty to anyone that helped get the club up, see keeper and defensive changes make the mess worse, but demand more change, write off everything before christmas then sack a good young manager.

 

Be sure to keep up the predictable drivel by giving the new manager a week to sign the 11 new players you want, then moan about taking too long to gel, not signing them quick enough, not using the players from before you now think weren't so bad and wondering why no-one getting paid lots actually seems to give two fcks about your club. If he does perform and keep the club up, be sure to get on your high horse about loyalty when the manager leaves for a better job or players demand transfers.

 

Such a shame those promotions have produced so many depressingly ungrateful and relentlessly predictable 'supporters'. I'd say enjoy the season but win, lose or draw, you won't.

 

Two excellent posts.

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

Don't know if anyone else has posted this because I haven't been arsed to check BU, if this is true then EVERY Saints Player should hang their heads in shame. Last night showed that the players are NOT listening to any advice. Turning your back on a football is a criminal offence in my book. Who was the last person you heard of to die from being hit by a football? When you are 15 yards ahead of an opposing forward how does he catch up and score? Not NA's fault at all. It's the bloody players.

Rant over.

 

Nigel, you need to tell Nicola not us. HTH.

[Hatch]

Has anyone checked Wikipedia? Surely that will confirm.

 

I've just checked Google street view and I can't see his car in the car park. Worrying indeed.

[Turkish]

You have claimed that an excuse that the CEO is learning his trade in the job as being rubbish. He has appointed an advisor to help him therefore the point is moot, yes?

 

Then you undermine that by showing how poor a choice he may be for that role.

 

Nicola Cortese's poor choice of advisor could well be part of his learning. It is obvious he is not getting everything right, therefore he still has much to learn. And his need to grow into the role is hindering us in some ways in the short term. It is without question a factor and far from your original eloquent suggestion of 'boll*cks.'

 

Nope, still not sure how i've contradicted myself. I didn't hear people saying Delia Smith was still learning when Norwich were relegated. AS CEO NC should have near enough FA to do with football matters, this should be left to the people he has employed to take care of these issues. He should be in the background doing the things CEO's do, so why is our crap performance this season got anything to do with the CEO learning the job? This should be taken care off by people employed to take care of these things. Unless you're telling me that at 59 years old Corteses advisior is "still learning"!!

[shurlock]

We've already been over my view on Reeds role in the promotions. I'm not doing it again.

 

If we assume rightly or wrongly, it wasn't Reed, then Cortese has been instrumental in the promotions. Either way, and regardless how you want to divvy up responsibility, the club can't be considered a failure. Dare I say it, most of my mates who support similar-sized clubs eg Leicester look at us with envy.

[pap]

Two excellent posts.

 

Or alternatively, two judgemental ones.

[david in sweden]

Nixon was just asked if there are any truth in the rumours and he said "i expect this to happen"

 

I'm sure most posters have already come down on one side or another....but that question.....seems a bit oddly phrased;

 

I have no trouble with the English language ..being born in the So'ton and having taught English for almost 30 years, but..I've often seen " media reports " that answer one question with another question..

 

Do you think he means.......?

(A)....I expect there to be rumours ...(about the situation)....or......(B) ...I expect (NA) to get the sack... (as per the rumours)

 

....not totally clear ......depending on which way you interpret the answer.

[OldNick]

we are back to the RL days on here. Fans blaming the CEO for football decisions, prepared to believe he is picking the team and criticising every business decision. Iam sure the majority of large companies have CEO's who upset people connected to the company and snipe away. NC is IMO trying to put into place ML vision, so far he has done it,

[Colinjb]

Nope, still not sure how i've contradicted myself. I didn't hear people saying Delia Smith was still learning when Norwich were relegated. AS CEO NC should have near enough FA to do with football matters, this should be left to the people he has employed to take care of these issues. He should be in the background doing the things CEO's do, so why is our crap performance this season got anything to do with the CEO learning the job? This should be taken care off by people employed to take care of these things. Unless you're telling me that at 59 years old Corteses advisior is "still learning"!!

 

No, i'm agreeing with you that Les Reed is the wrong man for the job.

 

Therefore Cortese made a wrong call appointing him. Showing that he still has something to learn when it comes to running a football club. And utterly proving that his inexperience is an issue.

 

You undermined your own point.

 

And believing that a CEO of a football club should have nothing to do with football matters, you would hope they had a least a basic understanding!

[alpine_saint]

I find it more frustrating than you obviously.

 

Yeah, me too.

[hypochondriac]

haha- maybe you could ask West Ham fans

 

Or reading and saints fans?

[notnowcato]

Nope, still not sure how i've contradicted myself. I didn't hear people saying Delia Smith was still learning when Norwich were relegated. AS CEO NC should have near enough FA to do with football matters, this should be left to the people he has employed to take care of these issues. He should be in the background doing the things CEO's do, so why is our crap performance this season got anything to do with the CEO learning the job? This should be taken care off by people employed to take care of these things. Unless you're telling me that at 59 years old Corteses advisior is "still learning"!!

 

Can you quantify what you mean by "football matters" and prove Cortese's meddling where he shouldn't?

[notnowcato]

Or reading and saints fans?

 

Or Norwich and Swansea fans?

[ottery st mary]

we are back to the RL days on here. Fans blaming the CEO for football decisions, prepared to believe he is picking the team and criticising every business decision. Iam sure the majority of large companies have CEO's who upset people connected to the company and snipe away. NC is IMO trying to put into place ML vision, so far he has done it,

 

 

When Rupert walked into the Saints dressing room with his tracksuit on

 

Carrying his clipboard and Number I on his shirt with the letters GOD theron:rolleyes:

 

I knew he could become a proper footballing CEO.

[100%Red&White]

I can't remember exactly when Les Reed was appointed but whoever has been 'picking' the team for the past 2 or 3 years has mostly got it right. This season it's gone t!ts-up and I think it's little doubt the reason for this is thast the defensive shortcomings weren't dealt with in the summer. Yet I can clearly recall Adkins publically stating we needed a left back and (1 or 2) centre backs. He was aware of problems ahead, I'd say that's why he mase sure it was on record, so if his concerns weren't followed up by the person responsible for securing transfers that that's were most of the blame should fall.

[doddisalegend]

And who said he wouldn't learn from his experience this season?! We owe him some loyalty if we expect it from anyone else. The players or any other manager in the future.

 

mmmm quite a few of our players from the prevoius couple of seasons got no loyalty from the club....

[Leicestersaint]

Good. I'd rather go down with him in charge, and give him another year. If he doesn't look as if he will bring us back up, that is the time to sack him. We're trying to build a long term successful club here ...not just a vehicle for some temporary mercenary. That means trusting and supporting someone, even if they have a poor spell.

 

Some of you lot need to have a word with yourselves. Well done to the fans singing his name last night btw.

 

I really do agree with this view.

[alpine_saint]

I can't remember exactly when Les Reed was appointed but whoever has been 'picking' the team for the past 2 or 3 years has mostly got it right. This season it's gone t!ts-up and I think it's little doubt the reason for this is thast the defensive shortcomings weren't dealt with in the summer. Yet I can clearly recall Adkins publically stating we needed a left back and (1 or 2) centre backs. He was aware of problems ahead, I'd say that's why he mase sure it was on record, so if his concerns weren't followed up by the person responsible for securing transfers that that's were most of the blame should fall.

 

And not forgetting his strange comments after the Coventry game. Seems he was already losing control of team issues and we werent listening properly.

 

Nevertheless, he has decided to work like this for the past 5 months, so a large share of the blame is still his.

[bjk]

What really p isses me off is that we never hear anything from Cortese,he never speaks to the fans.Fernandes at QPR publically shows his support for Hughes and you just know they'll get their first win against us.

[Tom]

I dont think NC will accept the fact of being 7th highest spenders in Europe to let us go down with the "possibility" of us coming up again next season.

[Chez]

His complete silence for the last few weeks whilst Adkins has had to field constant questions on his future and look increasingly pressured in the process speaks volumes

 

To be fair he never says anything.

[ottery st mary]

Under NA..... I did say we would finish 8-10..I think..

 

Due to circumstances beyond our control...

 

Revised opinion..Under NA..we will finish 12-15th:D

 

COYS

 

You late starters..get a move on and beat Swansea 4-1 this Saturday..

 

NA..right selection this week..Give me a ring:smug:

[Turkish]

No, i'm agreeing with you that Les Reed is the wrong man for the job.

 

Therefore Cortese made a wrong call appointing him. Showing that he still has something to learn when it comes to running a football club. And utterly proving that his inexperience is an issue.

 

You undermined your own point.

 

And believing that a CEO of a football club should have nothing to do with football matters, you would hope they had a least a basic understanding!

 

He made the appointment in April 2010, he's had over 2 years to correctt he mistake. He isn't learning very quickly is he!!!

 

When i say nothing to do with football matter, i mean very little. Hes a banker, so you'd hope he would leave most of the football decisons to people who (supposedly) know what they are doing. I'm sure Andy Crosby didn't tell Cortese what bank to get the loan from!

[saintoaks]

Looks like the mail have caught wind of somthing ?

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2228682/Nigel-Adkins-Southampton-talks-future.html

[Golden Balls]

What really p isses me off is that we never hear anything from Cortese,he never speaks to the fans.Fernandes at QPR publically shows his support for Hughes and you just know they'll get their first win against us.

 

After Lowe, I'd much rather Cortese kept quiet like he does. Everything he says will get twisted anyway.