Crazy Diamond Posted 5 November, 2012 Share Posted 5 November, 2012 Dunno about you lot but that makes me feel sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 November, 2012 Share Posted 5 November, 2012 dont really care.....nothing to do with saints...shyt happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 5 November, 2012 Share Posted 5 November, 2012 See they might be due to play each other in the FA Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint137 Posted 5 November, 2012 Share Posted 5 November, 2012 Will be carnage if they both win their replays. Although equally likely that the away end will be empty, many of the AFC lot have sworn they'll never watch Franchise. A good friend is a founding member of AFC. Normally quiet, mild-mannered, and generally chilled out but when it comes to Franchise it makes Rangers v Celtic or Galatasary v Fenerbache look like a hippy love-in. Has already said he won't go, will be the first AFC game he's missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 5 November, 2012 Share Posted 5 November, 2012 When there was a possibility of them meeting in the FA Cup a couple of years ago, I read that AFC Wimbledon might refuse to go the fixture. However they lost their cup replay and never had to make that decision. At the time AFC W were not in the league, so I wonder if they will be expected to show a more 'mature and responsible' side to it this time ? Again though, depending on replays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 Dunno about you lot but that makes me feel sick. A true representation of remember history, learn from the mistakes. That 'club' is an abomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 I can fully understand why AFC Wimbledon fans hate MK Dons. But I don't quite understand why MK Dons fans hate AFC Wimbledon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 I can fully understand why AFC Wimbledon fans hate MK Dons. But I don't quite understand why MK Dons fans hate AFC Wimbledon? Possible resentment at having to surrender any claim to Wimbledon's history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted 6 November, 2012 Share Posted 6 November, 2012 I can fully understand why AFC Wimbledon fans hate MK Dons. But I don't quite understand why MK Dons fans hate AFC Wimbledon? Because everyone hates their club, they need someone to hate. So much hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 13 November, 2012 Share Posted 13 November, 2012 I see Wimbledon won their replay last night. Just need MK Dons to do their bit now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 13 November, 2012 Share Posted 13 November, 2012 Wimbledon fans have always said they dont want to play MK, as they'd much rather not acknowledge their existance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 13 November, 2012 Share Posted 13 November, 2012 Wimbledon fans have always said they dont want to play MK, as they'd much rather not acknowledge their existance. They have said that they will fulfill the fixture 'in a professional manner' in a BBC article. How their fans will treat it an away tie, not sure. It's easier to boycott then a home game. It's not far from here, would be tempted to go and cheer them on personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 13 November, 2012 Share Posted 13 November, 2012 Why are those that now support or work for MK Dons "tw*ts"? Do you view Arsenal the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 13 November, 2012 Share Posted 13 November, 2012 I can fully understand why AFC Wimbledon fans hate MK Dons. But I don't quite understand why MK Dons fans hate AFC Wimbledon? Think it's called rivalry. Dunno though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 13 November, 2012 Share Posted 13 November, 2012 Why are those that now support or work for MK Dons "tw*ts"? Do you view Arsenal the same? Individually I'm sure they are probably not. But as an entity they are an utter abomination. If Milton Keynes was meant to have a league football club it should have grown organically from the Milton Keynes FC that were driven out of business by the franchise. Wimbledon died to bring league football to that town, thank heavens the rules have changed to stop it happening again. The people as ****s? Not in isolation, the entire club? Oh yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 13 November, 2012 Share Posted 13 November, 2012 They have said that they will fulfill the fixture 'in a professional manner' in a BBC article. How their fans will treat it an away tie, not sure. It's easier to boycott then a home game. It's not far from here, would be tempted to go and cheer them on personally. I was told that they intend to travel to the game, but stay outside, protesting in the car park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 13 November, 2012 Share Posted 13 November, 2012 Individually I'm sure they are probably not. But as an entity they are an utter abomination. If Milton Keynes was meant to have a league football club it should have grown organically from the Milton Keynes FC that were driven out of business by the franchise. Wimbledon died to bring league football to that town, thank heavens the rules have changed to stop it happening again. The people as ****s? Not in isolation, the entire club? Oh yes. Do you view Arsenal the same way? Would you have preferred Wimbledon FC were just liquidated? Which is probably what would have happened regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 13 November, 2012 Share Posted 13 November, 2012 Do you view Arsenal the same way? Would you have preferred Wimbledon FC were just liquidated? Which is probably what would have happened regardless. No, I do not, but Arsenal did not move conurbations, just the side of the river and as far as I am aware, didn't kill the existing club and another one where it moved to. Had Wimbledon FC had been liquidated it would have been the same difference, at least they wouldn't have been hurried on their way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 13 November, 2012 Share Posted 13 November, 2012 No, I do not, but Arsenal did not move conurbations, just the side of the river and as far as I am aware, didn't kill the existing club and another one where it moved to. Had Wimbledon FC had been liquidated it would have been the same difference, at least they wouldn't have been hurried on their way. Woolwich to Islington isn't just across the river. It would have meant a completely new set of supporters and was done for commercial reasons, same as MK Dons really. Are Woolwich Arsenal still going then? Wimbledon were dying pretty quickly, just a sharp move for them to see potential in Milton Keynes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 13 November, 2012 Share Posted 13 November, 2012 (edited) Woolwich to Islington isn't just across the river. It would have meant a completely new set of supporters and was done for commercial reasons, same as MK Dons really. Are Woolwich Arsenal still going then? Wimbledon were dying pretty quickly, just a sharp move for them to see potential in Milton Keynes. I've no doubt the move for Arsenal was controversial, but it is in no way the same as going from South West London to an entirely fabricated new town which already had a club. Did the existing Woolwich fans set up a new club? If yes then all credit to them and I wish them well. If they didn't then there obviously wasn't as big a deal in moving them a comparatively short distance at a time when football was still embryonic within the public mindset. - Something which was obviously not the case for the original Wimbledon. If Milton Keynes had deserved a league club then the town should have got behind their existing team that Pete Winkleman's farce killed off. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Keynes_City_F.C. I'm glad saints didn't relocate to a move profitable part of the country when we were on our knees. Looks like you would have been more then supportive! Edited 13 November, 2012 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 13 November, 2012 Share Posted 13 November, 2012 I've no doubt the move for Arsenal was controversial, but it is in no way the same as going from South West London to an entirely fabricated new town. I'm glad saints didn't relocate to a move profitable part of the country when we were on our knees. Looks like you would have been more then supportive! Where have I said I'd be supportive of such a move for Saints? I think you miss the point, but it really shouldn't be that confusing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 13 November, 2012 Share Posted 13 November, 2012 Where have I said I'd be supportive of such a move for Saints? I think you miss the point, but it really shouldn't be that confusing? Well, you described it as a smart move. If there was a town up country larger then Southampton that would have been able to provide a brighter future it would surely also be considered in the same light, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 13 November, 2012 Share Posted 13 November, 2012 Well, you described it as a smart move. If there was a town up country larger then Southampton that would have been able to provide a brighter future it would surely also be considered in the same light, no? Where have I said it was a smart move? Don't make stuff up because you're getting confused. If Saints had been in Wimbledon's position, I'd have been all for the creation of an 'AFC' back where the club was actually from well before the move to MK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 13 November, 2012 Share Posted 13 November, 2012 (edited) sharp move for them to see potential in Milton Keynes. Ok, sharp not smart, but lets not split hairs, still a very positive assessment. And surely it would be a sharp move to move Saints in identical circumstances, no? And as for the creation of an AFC, you wouldn't complain, be unhappy? Even if the new club did everything it could to claim the history of the prior entity.... the entity you supported and put so much into? The point is that the Wimbledon fans didn't get a say, their club was struggling and it was purchased by someone who wanted to uproot it, they were not given a chance to save it themselves, the rug was pulled from under them. (There is also no way of saying for certain that the club would have folded while in South West London, it only finally went into administration after the plans to move were finalised, after the fans admitted defeat and withdrew their support for the franchise it had become and only after it had tried to survive at Champiosnhip level for several months on away attendances alone.) It set a horrifying precident, one that can no longer be followed thankfully. Edited 13 November, 2012 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 13 November, 2012 Share Posted 13 November, 2012 3-1 MK Dons at the moment, looks like it's going to happen. C'mon AFCW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 13 November, 2012 Share Posted 13 November, 2012 AFC Wimbledon are no angels either lets not forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 13 November, 2012 Share Posted 13 November, 2012 AFC Wimbledon are no angels either lets not forget. Oh, absolutely not, but I wouldn't wish what happened to them on any club. Of all the games in the second round, this one must be televised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 2 December, 2012 Share Posted 2 December, 2012 Come on AFC Wimbledon, would love to see them smash MK dons today although I know it's unlikely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 December, 2012 Share Posted 2 December, 2012 colin..you have almost taken this rivalry personally I remember when the old wimbledon would bring about 300 fans to the dell....it was what...70 miles away..? they were always going down very very quickly... it was no surprise they went pop.. now, at MK Dons...the away end is full and thousands apparently refused to go today..I really wonder how many of the AFC fans actually went to plough lane or selhurst...they certainly never came to The Dell dear christ, we had 12000 fans at Selhurst that day..they would regularly have about 5k fans for a home game in the prem...there was no way they would survive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 2 December, 2012 Share Posted 2 December, 2012 colin..you have almost taken this rivalry personally Yes, as should every football fan worth their salt. The franchise are a warning from history and should never be accepted, i'm not so much pro Wimbledon more fiercely opposed to everything that entity stands for.. Shame to see them 1-0 down at half time though, that was a great strike though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 December, 2012 Share Posted 2 December, 2012 Yes, as should every football fan worth their salt. The franchise are a warning from history and should never be accepted. Shame to see them 1-0 down at half time, that was a great strike though. why should we....it happens..this was not the first and not the last. they have (or had) almost no fans...how on earth can a football club stay alive like that also, whilst they never had a ground, they spent £7m on john hartson..... we puke at pompey for spending like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 2 December, 2012 Share Posted 2 December, 2012 why should we....it happens..this was not the first and not the last. they have (or had) almost no fans...how on earth can a football club stay alive like that also, whilst they never had a ground, they spent £7m on john hartson..... we puke at pompey for spending like that I pray for your sake a day never comes when saints are in that kind of state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 2 December, 2012 Share Posted 2 December, 2012 Goal!! 1-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 2 December, 2012 Share Posted 2 December, 2012 Goal!! 1-1 No need for the pitch invasion, but you can understand the emotion in the celebration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 December, 2012 Share Posted 2 December, 2012 I pray for your sake a day never comes when saints are in that kind of state. stop being dramatic they were on the way down very very quickly they have just equalised....that is about 100x as many fans as they used to bring to any other game away from selhurst....I very much doubt many of them at all even watched the old wimbledon they had the early sky money to make a difference...they never had a ground..had no fans and bought players like john hartson for £7m+ they could have used the money to grow the club..but they never Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 2 December, 2012 Share Posted 2 December, 2012 (edited) stop being dramatic I think we will have to agree to disagree old boy. You ok? You've been really quite abrupt on here the last few days. Edited 2 December, 2012 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 2 December, 2012 Share Posted 2 December, 2012 why should we....it happens..this was not the first and not the last. they have (or had) almost no fans...how on earth can a football club stay alive like that also, whilst they never had a ground, they spent £7m on john hartson..... we puke at pompey for spending like that But afc are self sustaining now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 2 December, 2012 Share Posted 2 December, 2012 The only result that anyone should want is a replay. Total f ucking carnage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 December, 2012 Share Posted 2 December, 2012 I see puncheon is there then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 2 December, 2012 Share Posted 2 December, 2012 I see puncheon is there then Care in the community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 2 December, 2012 Share Posted 2 December, 2012 Do any of the old "crazy gang" take an interest in afc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 December, 2012 Share Posted 2 December, 2012 2-1 to MK Dons ex saint semibore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 2 December, 2012 Share Posted 2 December, 2012 What a flukey goal. Such a sucker punch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 2 December, 2012 Share Posted 2 December, 2012 What a flukey goal. Such a sucker punch. He meant it though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 2 December, 2012 Share Posted 2 December, 2012 Goal of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 2 December, 2012 Share Posted 2 December, 2012 If they'd gone pop all teams below would have benefitted equally. 2 of my fave games beating them up there in recent seasons. Hope we get them next round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 2 December, 2012 Share Posted 2 December, 2012 If they'd gone pop all teams below would have benefitted equally. This is the point that the ****** Winklemen doesn't seem to understand. He keeps saying that without the move to MK, Wimbledon would have gone bust. If that was the case then surely an extra team would have come up from the Conference to the FL the following season. Therefore they either stole Wimbledon, or if they didn't do that, stopped another team from playing in the FL. The simple truth of the matter was that if they wanted a team in MK, they should have poured money into the existing MK team or started another one from scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 2 December, 2012 Share Posted 2 December, 2012 Hate MK and all they stand for..where were the footballing gods??! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 2 December, 2012 Share Posted 2 December, 2012 He meant it though... Jon "bloody" Otsemobor. Never liked the guy! haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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