sammysaint Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 4 points from WBA and Swans is now the min needed, we havent had any luck this season lets hope we get some 2moro, and swansea i feel we will win, there not gonna handle Lambo Fonte and Gaston from corners, there quality on the floor but there defending on set plays is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 We will go down. We're simply too poor to stay up. But on paper we have a squad at least as good as most bottom/mid-table sides. This is not inevitable. A change of approach is needed. Whether that is a change of manager, I don't know. But I refuse to believe Wigan have a better overall squad than us. What they have is an ability to see out winning positions and not to concede the most amateurish goals that a League One side would be embarrassed to concede... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 But on paper we have a squad at least as good as most bottom/mid-table sides. On paper... Do we rate our defence by football manager statistics or by how many letters/syllables in their name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 The problem I have with threads like this is that no matter how much the subject gets tossed around, there is absolutely only one thing that we can do about it and that is provide the team with 110% support and make lots of noise at games. There is no point whatsoever in continually *****ing about where we are - of course we need to win at WBA...we need to win as many games as possible FFS! Cortese, Reed and Adkins are not going to change course because someone starts a new thread on here! The simple fact is this - we came up too quickly and the defence was not improved enough as a result. End of. Unless there's a minor miracle in January and we buy 3-4 new defenders, we are going down because the players are not good enough to compete at this level. Nothing to do with Adkins which is why he will still be here at Xmas sending his pressy list to Saint Nic. Even then it might be too late to recover unless we snatch 3 wins before January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 We need to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 The problem I have with threads like this is that no matter how much the subject gets tossed around, there is absolutely only one thing that we can do about it and that is provide the team with 110% support and make lots of noise at games. There is no point whatsoever in continually *****ing about where we are - of course we need to win at WBA...we need to win as many games as possible FFS! Cortese, Reed and Adkins are not going to change course because someone starts a new thread on here! If that's how you view it, I'm not sure if message boards are the thing for you. That's entirely what they're designed for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 If that's how you view it, I'm not sure if message boards are the thing for you. That's entirely what they're designed for. What, to keep on repeating the same old thing, over and over and over? I guess if that's all you've got going on in your life then sure, rock on bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 What, to keep on repeating the same old thing, over and over and over? I guess if that's all you've got going on in your life then sure, rock on bud. Maybe you could write us a list of topics that are acceptable then. That would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 Right, so what you're saying is that we should tackle more. Groundbreaking stuff, whiteygrandad. Well that's two of us who understand what's needed. Now how about telling the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 Maybe you could write us a list of topics that are acceptable then. That would be nice. Why? I don't need to explain my POV - it's pretty easy to comprehend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 Ultimately we all knew from the word go that a point per game will be whats required to give us a good chance of survival and 3 or 4 more than that to really guaruntee it. The table at the moment is in keeping with that and I think as long as we set our sights on averaging a point per game we'll be ok. Its in our hands overall. The tables actually been very kind to us up until now - and right now the gap is more reflective of how far off realistically achieving survival we are at the moment, which perhaps makes things more depressing. Agreed the problem is we are averaging less than 0.5 of a point a game and 9 games out of 38 have already gone! so we now need 34 points from 29 games or around 1.2 points a game (20% up on the target already) still doable, however a bit like a cricket side batting and struggling a quarter way into a limited over innings we need to get our returns up with a few boundaries to ensure we can be back in the game before the target runs away from us and the matches peter out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 We will go down. We're simply too poor to stay up. Short, succinct, spot-on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 Usual rubbish, "no experienced manager will come within a mile". Just you wait until Adkins is sacked every experienced and even more inexperienced managers will crawl out of their holes boasting that they could do it, when in reality most of them would do no better. And how can Cortese and Reed wind their necks in? When was the last time we heard either of them say anything of note in public? I think their necks are already wound in tight as a ducks arse. Prehaps I should have been more specific no decent experienced manager that could do any better will want to come here. Can you imagine Rafa Benitez working with les Reed and taking his advice? It's laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 (edited) Short, succinct, spot-on. * puts fingers in ears and screams * 'No No no!! We've been unlucky, we've had a tough start, we've had injuries. If we win three games in a row we'll be fine. We've matched Fulham and were mugged by Wigan. There are loads of reasons why we are five points adrift and not being good enough isn't one of them. This is how mong boards work Alps , you've been on here long enough you should know by now. Edited 4 November, 2012 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 * puts fingers in ears and screams * 'No No no!! We've been unlucky, we've had a tough start, we've had injuries. If we win three games in a row we'll be fine. We've matched Fulham and were mugged by Wigan. There are loads of reasons why we are five points adrift and. It being good enough isn't one of them. This is how mong boards work Alps , you've been on here long enough. lets be honest...if we saw another team down there...play like we do, we would pretty much say that 1 relegation space has been taken....we are comical and the continuation to be so open is laughable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 This moment has been coming for weeks. That gap looks huge. Not surprised at some of the ridiculous dismissive and complacent comments on here, especially the "if we win 3 in a row...." comment. Very sad... So just to clarify, you don't like the prem, would rather saints weren't in the prem, but are also going to b!tch and moan about us being in the relegation zone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 lets be honest...if we saw another team down there...play like we do, we would pretty much say that 1 relegation space has been taken....we are comical and the continuation to be so open is laughable Exactly Jamie. who was it who said if we win three games in a row we'd fine? He is clearly mental and obviously forgotten we've only one won all season as have most of the bottom 6 and that we have conceded at 3 goals in every away game in the league this season. It was hilarious how people were slating Villa and norwich last week yet they are 5 points clear of us with a goal difference worth a point as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 Exactly Jamie. who was it who said if we win three games in a row we'd fine? He is clearly mental and obviously forgotten we've only one won all season as have most of the bottom 6 and that we have conceded at 3 goals in every away game in the league this season. It was hilarious how people were slating Villa and norwich last week yet they are 5 points clear of us with a goal difference worth a point as well. Tsk. The bottom half of the Premier League is no better than the top half of the Championship FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 Exactly Jamie. who was it who said if we win three games in a row we'd fine? He is clearly mental and obviously forgotten we've only one won all season as have most of the bottom 6 and that we have conceded at 3 goals in every away game in the league this season. It was hilarious how people were slating Villa and norwich last week yet they are 5 points clear of us with a goal difference worth a point as well. as CB FRY said somewhere..the sort of poster that was telling me (and you) that we will finish mid table, the prem is average, we are bigger than Everton and villa and definitely finish above stoke....then went on to, we will be fine, in adkins we trust (after the poor first few games)...are NOW saying, that what did we expect...we cant expect anything in the prem etc.. we are awful...we have played well in flashes...we have won 2 halves of football all season...and the defending is a joke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 So just to clarify, you don't like the prem, would rather saints weren't in the prem, but are also going to b!tch and moan about us being in the relegation zone? I'm with Alps on this. I dont like the premier league. There is only any point being in it of youre competitive and we aren't. We've spent £30m to have a side which is still one of the worst in the division and had the embarasing talk of Europe preseason. How utterly naive and stupid does that seem now? Not to some o us of course who said this at the time but were told we were wrong and with a good academy and manager which were already here we'd be fine. How is it workig out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 Ffs, I'm not saying we have done well, but a season is not decided over 9 games. Yes, we need to get DRASTICALLY better. Massively, massively better. But it's not as if it has never happened before. QPR and Wigan looked certs for the drop last year, yet both stayed up. WBA were written off when bottom at Xmas, and no one have us a hope the great escape year (funny how short all you with the p!ss stained pampers memories are). As I said, we need to buck our ideas up massively, but our season is now coming to the important part. As has been mentioned in other threads, come tues we will have played all the top 9 sides, leaving us with a run of fixtures against teams around us - realistically, it is these games which will decide our fate come may. If we carry on being as poor and pickings up as few points against these sides we should definitely worry. Though let's not forget we do still have January to improve. Yes, it would have been better if that was done in July, but it wasn't. It is hard to strengthen in Jan, but it can be done. QPR strenghtened massively in jan, and I would argue they probably would have gone down if it wasn't for that. Lets also not forget the impact of a certain mr. Sharp who was signed in....January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 as CB FRY said somewhere..the sort of poster that was telling me (and you) that we will finish mid table, the prem is average, we are bigger than Everton and villa and definitely finish above stoke....then went on to, we will be fine, in adkins we trust (after the poor first few games)...are NOW saying, that what did we expect...we cant expect anything in the prem etc.. we are awful...we have played well in flashes...we have won 2 halves of football all season...and the defending is a joke... I'll tell you what though. I'm glad we haven't got any premier league experience in the club. Just imagine how much worse we'd be doing if we had a few experienced players who have played at this level before and know what it's all about. We'd be really in trouble if we had them, thank god we didn't need any premier league experienced players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 Ffs, I'm not saying we have done well, but a season is not decided over 9 games. Yes, we need to get DRASTICALLY better. Massively, massively better. But it's not as if it has never happened before. QPR and Wigan looked certs for the drop last year, yet both stayed up. WBA were written off when bottom at Xmas, and no one have us a hope the great escape year (funny how short all you with the p!ss stained pampers memories are). As I said, we need to buck our ideas up massively, but our season is now coming to the important part. As has been mentioned in other threads, come tues we will have played all the top 9 sides, leaving us with a run of fixtures against teams around us - realistically, it is these games which will decide our fate come may. If we carry on being as poor and pickings up as few points against these sides we should definitely worry. Though let's not forget we do still have January to improve. Yes, it would have been better if that was done in July, but it wasn't. It is hard to strengthen in Jan, but it can be done. QPR strenghtened massively in jan, and I would argue they probably would have gone down if it wasn't for that. Lets also not forget the impact of a certain mr. Sharp who was signed in....January. I think its better we just agree that we're already down and that the prem is sh*t anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 I think its better we just agree that we're already down and that the prem is sh*t anyway. Yes, that's about the measure of it on this place. No cause for optimism at all, we are ****, Adkins is ****, we won't improve, everyone else has better teams and better managers, we'll be down at easter. We might as well close the forum until end of season as I keep being told all the above it 100% correct so what else is there to discuss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 I think its better we just agree that we're already down and that the prem is sh*t anyway. I used to have a cartoon which said "I feel so much better now that I've given up hope". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 Ffs, I'm not saying we have done well, but a season is not decided over 9 games. Yes, we need to get DRASTICALLY better. Massively, massively better. But it's not as if it has never happened before. QPR and Wigan looked certs for the drop last year, yet both stayed up. WBA were written off when bottom at Xmas, and no one have us a hope the great escape year (funny how short all you with the p!ss stained pampers memories are). As I said, we need to buck our ideas up massively, but our season is now coming to the important part. As has been mentioned in other threads, come tues we will have played all the top 9 sides, leaving us with a run of fixtures against teams around us - realistically, it is these games which will decide our fate come may. If we carry on being as poor and pickings up as few points against these sides we should definitely worry. Though let's not forget we do still have January to improve. Yes, it would have been better if that was done in July, but it wasn't. It is hard to strengthen in Jan, but it can be done. QPR strenghtened massively in jan, and I would argue they probably would have gone down if it wasn't for that. Lets also not forget the impact of a certain mr. Sharp who was signed in....January. Didn't people say at the start of the season that we should be judged after 10 games? Well here we are witha tough away game tomorrow night, bottom of the league, a record high goals conceded at this stage of the season and with a team and manager lacking experience and quality. it's easy to say that we are going to get better, but I don't see any signs of it or who at the club has got the magic wand that is going to turn championship level players into premier league ones. It does make me laugh how poor and limited everyone says Vlla, Norwich, QPR and Reading are, yet they are all above us in the league and the blind belief that we are suddenly going to improve and string a run of wins together out of no where which the teams currently above us are Apparantly not capable of doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 Its going to take more than a change of manager to keep us. Unless Reed and Cortese wind their necks in no experienced manager will come within a mile of the club. January might be too lste to save us the way things are panning out. We might as well judt laugh at ourselves. For a start how utterly stupid and embarassing does all the talk of European football sound now? About the same as your constant and repetitive moans! If we are such a shambolic team, why don’t you go and bore … support another team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 For what it's worth. After todays result of QPR and Reading we are BOTTOM! However, neither of those two teams above us have won a match yet.I have every confidence that tomorrow night will see a positive turn-around for us.We are Saints. What's happening at the moment is nothing new.We're just in a different league where cheating,Ref-baiting,tantrums and deceit are the norm.Believe me,I've seen it all in my 55 years as a Saint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 About the same as your constant and repetitive moans! If we are such a shambolic team, why don’t you go and bore … support another team? What a mongy reply. If you dnt like it go and support another team. Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 About the same as your constant and repetitive moans! If we are such a shambolic team, why don’t you go and bore … support another team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 Great post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 Yes, that's about the measure of it on this place. No cause for optimism at all, we are ****, Adkins is ****, we won't improve, everyone else has better teams and better managers, we'll be down at easter. We might as well close the forum until end of season as I keep being told all the above it 100% correct so what else is there to discuss? If we were to close down the forum, it would seriously deprive two particular groups of their daily fix. Firstly there are those whose condition is best summed up by the phrase "they're not happy unless they're unhappy." When they predict a dire outcome for the season before more than a quarter of it is past, it is the internet equivalent of premature ejaculation. The second group comprises those who start up threads on internet forums covering subjects already being discussed on existing threads, in order to draw attention to themselves. If the forum was to cease to exist, these two groups would probably need counselling, as they would be deprived of their therapy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 Dont get shirty, Turkish. This is a message board ans everyone is entitled to their opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vince Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 Obviously we've got to get some points on the board for it to matter, but Villa's next 3 games are ManUre (H), City (A), Arsenal (H) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 You think the answer is to start getting booked and sent off when we're losing? does not seem to do the top teams to bad, to me being near the the top of the fair play league shows we are not competing for 50/50 balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 This link shows the fair play table after 6 games. According to you, the table should be the reverse of the actual league table, as those getting cards are the teams that compete and try hard. The table, and common sense, indicate that you are wrong. http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/fair-play.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 I think it's a win or change the manager time tomorrow. I hate to see NA go, but unless the team has a more determined and professional performance its time for a manager who can attract players, instil confidence and discipline, start off with firm demarcation lines between chairman and manager and keep us up before pushing us on to European status next season. Bad history or not, he has a chance to prove himself and make amends. He's local and arguably the finest English manager. He knows this league backwards and is highly respected by pundits, players and has a wrong to right. I pray NA pulls of a win tomorrow. But if not, let's not delay longer than necessary, let's make the change now. It will (sadly for NA and managerial consistency) be time to see Harry Redknapp back, but this time with an ambitious football club chairman rather than a plc chairman. This time without an England rugby coach in his face. This time with a mission to restore his reputation and maintain a Southern club in the top flight. Stranger things have happened in football.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 This link shows the fair play table after 6 games. According to you, the table should be the reverse of the actual league table, as those getting cards are the teams that compete and try hard. The table, and common sense, indicate that you are wrong. http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/fair-play.html Perhaps the big plan is to qualify for Europe through the fair play league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 If we were to close down the forum, it would seriously deprive two particular groups of their daily fix. Firstly there are those whose condition is best summed up by the phrase "they're not happy unless they're unhappy." When they predict a dire outcome for the season before more than a quarter of it is past, it is the internet equivalent of premature ejaculation. The second group comprises those who start up threads on internet forums covering subjects already being discussed on existing threads, in order to draw attention to themselves. If the forum was to cease to exist, these two groups would probably need counselling, as they would be deprived of their therapy. There is another group. The 'I go on a forum, but haven't really grasped the concept that someone can have a different opinion than mine'. If this forum ceased to exist, you might have to have your disagreements face to face, rather than behind a keyboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 that is what worries me' date=' we are near the top of the fair play league, no passion or anger when we are getting out played[/quote'] Not surprising we are nearly top of the fair play league, we don't actually bother attempting to tackle anyone! With the odd exception of Morgan perhaps. A lot of the time our players are somewhere in the region of 3/4 yards away from where they should be, sometimes more (Fox?). A bit of passion wouldn't go amiss, but a bit more organisation and positional sense would be handy as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 If we were to close down the forum, it would seriously deprive two particular groups of their daily fix. Firstly there are those whose condition is best summed up by the phrase "they're not happy unless they're unhappy." When they predict a dire outcome for the season before more than a quarter of it is past, it is the internet equivalent of premature ejaculation. The second group comprises those who start up threads on internet forums covering subjects already being discussed on existing threads, in order to draw attention to themselves. If the forum was to cease to exist, these two groups would probably need counselling, as they would be deprived of their therapy. How's our champions league push going Les? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 Not surprising we are nearly top of the fair play league, we don't actually bother attempting to tackle anyone! With the odd exception of Morgan perhaps. A lot of the time our players are somewhere in the region of 3/4 yards away from where they should be, sometimes more (Fox?). A bit of passion wouldn't go amiss, but a bit more organisation and positional sense would be handy as well. Yep, what we're seeing from Norwich and even Reading had a go at QPR today. Tomorrow will tell us whether Nigel has lost the dressing room and training ground. Never mind 433, 'Southampton Way' empty corporate guff, we are 100% where we deserve to be and that is bottom. Let's see if there is some heart, fight, leadership, organisation, workrate and pride because we haven't seen any so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 How's our champions league push going Les? With Ramirez returning I think we're still in with a good shout. Arsenal finished third last season and look how they started! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 4 November, 2012 Share Posted 4 November, 2012 There is another group. The 'I go on a forum, but haven't really grasped the concept that someone can have a different opinion than mine'. If this forum ceased to exist, you might have to have your disagreements face to face, rather than behind a keyboard. This made me nod my head in agreement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 5 November, 2012 Share Posted 5 November, 2012 I'm with Alps on this. I dont like the premier league. There is only any point being in it of youre competitive and we aren't. We've spent £30m to have a side which is still one of the worst in the division and had the embarasing talk of Europe preseason. How utterly naive and stupid does that seem now? Not to some o us of course who said this at the time but were told we were wrong and with a good academy and manager which were already here we'd be fine. How is it workig out? So you dislike the prem, but will still moaning about how we are doomed to get relegated? Which begs a few questions: A) why are you on here? B) why bother continuing to follow saints this season if you know how it's going to end? C) what numbers are going to come up on the next euro millions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 November, 2012 Share Posted 5 November, 2012 So you dislike the prem, but will still moaning about how we are doomed to get relegated? Which begs a few questions: A) why are you on here? B) why bother continuing to follow saints this season if you know how it's going to end? C) what numbers are going to come up on the next euro millions? What a moron. Why follow Saints? Because i do and because i have done for the last 27 years since my first game. Unlike some of the clowns on here who believe that people are looking round for a club to support so why cant that be Saints? I feel that the club chose me and i'll support it through thick and thin as i always have done, putting my money where my mouth is season after season, even if i dont like the league we are in, the owners, the way they we got about business, the way fans are treated, how crap we are and in some cases in the past most of the players. Good to see you've got nothing better to do than slag off other fans and forum members 30 minutes before one of our most important matches of the season though. It's clear where some peoples priorities lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 5 November, 2012 Share Posted 5 November, 2012 What a moron. Why follow Saints? Because i do and because i have done for the last 27 years since my first game. Unlike some of the clowns on here who believe that people are looking round for a club to support so why cant that be Saints? I feel that the club chose me and i'll support it through thick and thin as i always have done, putting my money where my mouth is season after season, even if i dont like the league we are in, the owners, the way they we got about business, the way fans are treated, how crap we are and in some cases in the past most of the players. Good to see you've got nothing better to do than slag off other fans and forum members 30 minutes before one of our most important matches of the season though. It's clear where some peoples priorities lie. What was that first sentence? Pretty sure that's using an insult? You would be slagging people off there mr Turkish would you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 November, 2012 Share Posted 5 November, 2012 What was that first sentence? Pretty sure that's using an insult? You would be slagging people off there mr Turkish would you? Yep and well deserved. Anyway, i'm watching the game so i'll let you cary on with worrying about why other fans are supporting Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 5 November, 2012 Share Posted 5 November, 2012 How foolish of me, I must have missed the memo announcing you as the arbitrator of what is appropriate or not. You just carry on moaning about the players, board, fans, manager, everything about the club - and then be indignant at anyone with the cheek to question your support? And then go round calling others morons. If you can't link the two, its clearly you who are the moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 5 November, 2012 Share Posted 5 November, 2012 My best hopes now are that we are still in the fight come January, and not points adrift, but something has to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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