Ricky Redstripe Posted 31 October, 2012 Posted 31 October, 2012 And cue all the people getting on the Guly out bandwagon yet again.
dubai_phil Posted 31 October, 2012 Posted 31 October, 2012 SDR, Fox, Puncheon, Chaplow. Then, IF he keeps playing on the left Lallana.
dubai_phil Posted 31 October, 2012 Posted 31 October, 2012 Oh, and Jos is doing an astonishingly good impression of Saganowski, even IF he doesn't intend to so him too.
Restark19 Posted 31 October, 2012 Posted 31 October, 2012 well looking at the current depth of our squad and the inability to bring in players I wouldn't sack any players. Despite our current form being absolutely sh!te we can't afford to go around cancelling contracts. If you mean selling players in January then I'd definitely let Fox go and bring in a new LB and even though I'm not a Guly hater I'd probably sell him as he's never going to be popular with the fans and I believe he said he wanted to return to Brazil anyway
alpine_saint Posted 31 October, 2012 Posted 31 October, 2012 Complete new defence. Most of last nights 16 should be looking for new clubs too.
Restark19 Posted 31 October, 2012 Posted 31 October, 2012 Complete new defence. I'd keep Clyne as first choice RB personally
Ziggy Posted 31 October, 2012 Posted 31 October, 2012 SDR, Fox, Puncheon, Chaplow. Then, IF he keeps playing on the left Lallana. Lallana? Yes he'd be on my list of under performing players who aren't Premier quality. (Right or left side).
St Chalet Posted 31 October, 2012 Posted 31 October, 2012 I'd keep Clyne as first choice RB personally Yoshida has looked ok at CB as well. Although Clyne's wing aerially has been a source of goals - Van Persie, Jelavic and Bale spring to mind. i honestly think our problem is our system (we defend too narrow and invite teams on to us) and a weak defensive left back.
scotty Posted 31 October, 2012 Posted 31 October, 2012 I'd keep Clyne as first choice RB personally +1. Fonte wouldn't be on my get-rid list either.
Restark19 Posted 31 October, 2012 Posted 31 October, 2012 Fonte wouldn't be on my get-rid list either. Agreed, (often) has his dodgy moments but I'd definitely keep him at the club
supersonic Posted 31 October, 2012 Posted 31 October, 2012 Lallana? Yes he'd be on my list of under performing players who aren't Premier quality. (Right or left side). Yeah and Lambert hasn't scored for 2 games, get him out too
Restark19 Posted 31 October, 2012 Posted 31 October, 2012 Lallana? Yes he'd be on my list of under performing players who aren't Premier quality. (Right or left side). Despite him being joint top English player in the assist tables this season/joint 3rd overall as well as having most assists for us? Right. I'd say despite not being at his best he's still one of our best players
Chez Posted 31 October, 2012 Posted 31 October, 2012 none of them. I didn't go last night, but in all the other games I have not seen any failing to put the effort in.
doddisalegend Posted 31 October, 2012 Posted 31 October, 2012 Players need time FFS most of these players have managed back to back promotions last season...where is the loyalty?. We need to give them at least 10 games and I'd give them until christmas before making changes. Also before anyone suggests getting rid of a player they need to have sensible suggestion for a replacement lined up....... It's not even the players fault there are people telling them how, and where, to play behind the scences like that Crosby guy..........
dubai_phil Posted 31 October, 2012 Posted 31 October, 2012 Lallana? Yes he'd be on my list of under performing players who aren't Premier quality. (Right or left side). Ah yes but you didn't ask why I said that.... IF he stays on the left then at PL level he does not have the pace to cut inside as much as he did in the nPc. PL defenders have worked him out. As such he slows down our attacks down the left and Fox who has made a run from deep ends up looking a tosser. However on the RIGHT and through the centre he has made goals and looks the part. AL is a great player BUT at the moment he has to sort this issue out
The Kraken Posted 31 October, 2012 Posted 31 October, 2012 Yoshida is our best defender atm What a tremendous accolade. I think you could also rephrase it as "Yoshida is the least sh*t of our defenders atm".
sfc4prem Posted 31 October, 2012 Posted 31 October, 2012 What a tremendous accolade. I think you could also rephrase it as "Yoshida is the least sh*t of our defenders atm". Yeah, but he is pretty good. Puts in some quality challenges and generally reads the game well.
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 31 October, 2012 Posted 31 October, 2012 In fact Alpine Saint and his ilk are the reason why this forum has become known as 'Spazweb" by members of other superior saints forums.
Dangermouth Posted 1 November, 2012 Posted 1 November, 2012 SDR, Jos, Fox, Guly, Chaplow, Butterfield, Puncheon (if he keeps fannying about and doesn't track back and tackle/take up the correct positions), Davies, Lee, Seabourne, Lallana if he keeps slowing things down and/or can't pass right and doesn't track back, SRL if he doesn't perform (heresy, but thar ya go),. At least 10, anyway. Barnard, Hammond, Forte and Sharp too (even though they're on loan). Let's face it, most of them didn't get long-term contracts last season because the club thought they were PL quality (unless people at the club really don't have a clue) so it's plain they were hedging their bets in case we didn't go up.
Colbury Posted 1 November, 2012 Posted 1 November, 2012 I'd rather sack all of our helmet fans. However I'm not sure how long the club could sustain attendances of 50.
Window Cleaner Posted 1 November, 2012 Posted 1 November, 2012 Which PLAYERS would you sack ??? you can't sack players, you can wait until their contracts expire or you can sell them or loan them out. One of the unfortunate aspects of fixed term contracts I'm afraid.
Verbal Kint Posted 1 November, 2012 Posted 1 November, 2012 Yeah, but he is pretty good. Puts in some quality challenges and generally reads the game well. Awful at Arsenal, very average at Everton, abysmal against Fulham and his first half against Spurs was pretty terrible as well. Him and Fonte both improved second half when we played higher up the pitch, but if he wasn't a summer signing people wouldn't be so lenient with him. I've seen very little to suggest he's better than Fonte, and considering we needed centre halves substantially better than what we had, i think at the moment he looks a pretty poor signing. Hopefully he will significantly improve as the season progresses. I find it odd that just a few days before he signed, NA was asked about him and he said quite defiantly that we wouldn't be signing him. His signing stinks of a last minute panic buy having failed to acquire our preferred targets. Well done Les
Saint Fan CaM Posted 1 November, 2012 Posted 1 November, 2012 Which PLAYERS would you sack ??? From the guy who is praying that we get relegated, it's perhaps not surprising you've started this thread. So what players would you sack then Miltonroader07? What players would you sack from the P*mpley squad?
saint_sinner Posted 1 November, 2012 Posted 1 November, 2012 I would ask those who travelled to Leeds on Tuesday
Bucks Saint Posted 1 November, 2012 Posted 1 November, 2012 Oh, and Jos is doing an astonishingly good impression of Saganowski, even IF he doesn't intend to so him too. At least that means Jos will come back from loan and go on to score on the final day to keep us up then
david in sweden Posted 1 November, 2012 Posted 1 November, 2012 I'd keep Clyne as first choice RB personally AGREED........and also Yoshida...but unfortunately .....the rest don't have my confidence.
david in sweden Posted 1 November, 2012 Posted 1 November, 2012 Yeah and Lambert hasn't scored for 2 games, get him out too Yes I know it's your humour......and actually its 3 games......and a sub appearnace, but that's no reason to sack him - is it ? He'll come again. 10 years ago James Beattie went 9 games before scoring his first .but ended up with 23 goals and was the leading Englsih-born scorer in the Prem. (Thierry Henry won the Golden Boot).
scotty Posted 1 November, 2012 Posted 1 November, 2012 I'd rather sack all of our helmet fans. However I'm not sure how long the club could sustain attendances of 50.
Hatch Posted 1 November, 2012 Posted 1 November, 2012 you can't sack players, you can wait until their contracts expire or you can sell them or loan them out. One of the unfortunate aspects of fixed term contracts I'm afraid. I'm sure you can sack them. Gross misconduct for example.
Window Cleaner Posted 1 November, 2012 Posted 1 November, 2012 I'm sure you can sack them. Gross misconduct for example. What like Seaborne you mean, did we "sack" him, did we flip. Otherwise highly likely but you can't sack them for being overpaid or useless, same as the civil service really. If we could sack Dickson I'm sure we'd have done that by now but as long as he keeps his nose clean and turns up for training where and when required there's nothing you can do about it. Under normal circumstance if you want to get rid of a player before the expiration of his contract and you can't sell him you just have to bite the bullet and pay him all he is owed under the terms of his contract.
John B Posted 1 November, 2012 Posted 1 November, 2012 What like Seaborne you mean, did we "sack" him, did we flip. Otherwise highly likely but you can't sack them for being overpaid or useless, same as the civil service really. If we could sack Dickson I'm sure we'd have done that by now but as long as he keeps his nose clean and turns up for training where and when required there's nothing you can do about it. Under normal circumstance if you want to get rid of a player before the expiration of his contract and you can't sell him you just have to bite the bullet and pay him all he is owed under the terms of his contract. There do seem to be a number a large number players with contracts who are not good enough for the PL So I dont think the club expected to be in the PL so quickly
Window Cleaner Posted 1 November, 2012 Posted 1 November, 2012 (edited) There do seem to be a number a large number players with contracts who are not good enough for the PL So I dont think the club expected to be in the PL so quickly I expect the club expected to be able to move them on more easily. Trouble is we are said to be right bastards on loan deals, Dickson expressed himself on this last summer. He ain't going to play and we ain't going to let him walk free or subsidise his pay at Brentford or Yeovil wherever it was. Thus he's resigned to watching the game from the stands for a season and going through the motions in training, no doubt with the development group. Don't think he even plays in their matches either. NB it was Crawley Town, he could have gone there but as he would have had to take a pay-cut he wanted Saints to pay up some of the last year of his contract. Apparently Saints refused and now he's in limbo. Edited 1 November, 2012 by Window Cleaner
david in sweden Posted 1 November, 2012 Posted 1 November, 2012 Under normal circumstance if you want to get rid of a player before the expiration of his contract and you can't sell him you just have to bite the bullet and pay him all he is owed under the terms of his contract. ala..... Anthony Pulis and Tommy Forecast.....
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