Wayne Thomas

[chivvy1664]

what injury does he have/ How longs he going to be out for. when fit Would you pick him ahead of Lancashire?

[rocknrollman no2]

Mate i would pick Stephen Hawkins ahead of Lancashire.

Its not his fault,hes just not ready for this league yet.

[davefoggy]

WT was awesome in the B'ham cup game, captain and MOTM

we can't afford to play him sadly

[Toomer]

I saw Wayne about a month ago at Staplewood he was on crutches and could not put any weight on his right foot, told me he would be out for a few months if not the season.

[Topcat]

Is his injury his age in that he is too old to play in our innovative setup?

 

Or is his appearance money too high for Lowe's wonderful approach to team selection?

[Give it to Ron]

I spoke to Wayne at the Brighton reserve game and he has a bad injury - he has had an opertaion to repair his achilles that ruptured I believe and had a few other micro fractures.

He told me that he was expected to be out for about 7 months.

Nothing to do with appearances and money this time.

[Alain Perrin]

Is his injury his age in that he is too old to play in our innovative setup?

 

Or is his appearance money too high for Lowe's wonderful approach to team selection?

 

Ah yes, in the non-Lowe world injuries don't happen and we wouldn't have sold Andrew Davis (who is also injured - remind me how many times he has played for Stoke since we sold him?).

 

That was a great bit of business.

[Weston Saint]

Ah yes, in the non-Lowe world injuries don't happen and we wouldn't have sold Andrew Davis (who is also injured - remind me how many times he has played for Stoke since we sold him?).

 

That was a great bit of business.

 

He came on for 2nd half in a reserve game in October, played the next reserve game in full and disappeared off the radar again, assume injured.

 

We did well selling him it seems. Sad for him as he had potential but he seems highly injury prone.

[chocco boxo]

We have signed some injury prone rubbish over the years.FACT.

We have sold some good players over the years.FACT.

[eelpie]

Wayne Thomas and Lee Holmes both successfully underwent minor operations this week.

(OS today)

[Saint_clark]

We have signed some injury prone rubbish over the years.FACT.

We have sold some good players over the years.FACT.

 

We have also signed some good players over the years. FACT.

We have also sold some injury prone rubbish over the years. FACT.

[Arizona]

I spoke to Wayne on Tuesday. He seemed upbeat about his chance and appeared to be walking fine. When asked about his recovery, his exactly words were, "hopefully in another couple of months".

 

First choice centre half IMO. He was excellent for most games under Pearson, even if he did have a couple of off days.

[chocco boxo]

We have also signed some good players over the years. FACT.

We have also sold some injury prone rubbish over the years. FACT.

 

We have signed some rubbish managers over the years who tend to sign crap and sell good players aided by a crap Chairmen!FACT

[LatvianTolix]

I spoke to Wayne on Tuesday. He seemed upbeat about his chance and appeared to be walking fine. When asked about his recovery, his exactly words were, "hopefully in another couple of months".

 

First choice centre half IMO. He was excellent for most games under Pearson, even if he did have a couple of off days.

 

I thought he was limping that day. :-)

[hughieslastminutegoal]

Ah yes, in the non-Lowe world injuries don't happen and we wouldn't have sold Andrew Davis (who is also injured - remind me how many times he has played for Stoke since we sold him?).

 

That was a great bit of business.

 

Andrew Davis was another player who was injured when we bought him, and so was Thomas? They were reported an minor at the time, but we do seem to be "unlucky" with injuries on signing which seem to be the start of a long run of more frequent and more serious injuries.

 

And just to prove we haven't lost the touch, we sign Gasmi, Pulis, Smith...

 

Holmes had previously been out a long time and so had Wotton..

 

You expect to suffer this from time to time, but we seem to specialise in it.

[Arizona]

I thought he was limping that day. :-)

 

Was he? I only saw him take a few steps when he walked up behind us.

 

Oh well. No crutches, so I guess that's a good thing.

[ottery st mary]

Ah yes, in the non-Lowe world injuries don't happen and we wouldn't have sold Andrew Davis (who is also injured - remind me how many times he has played for Stoke since we sold him?).

 

That was a great bit of business.

 

But according to your mates, the Lowey luvvies set, we pay Davies and Stoke pay Pulis. That is, until both are fit or has the LoWi agency moved the goal posts or do you change the story around to support your agenda in that office. Lowey love in make, your mind up.

[Chez]

our desire to get Thomas back in the side shows how far we have fallen. For me he is a very very average centre back, not that quick, not that great in the, a poor decision maker and not that great positionally. All in all a very poor signing for £1.2m but I'd still play him ahead of Lancashire as he at least offers some physical strength.

[Alain Perrin]

But according to your mates, the Lowey luvvies set, we pay Davies and Stoke pay Pulis. That is, until both are fit or has the LoWi agency moved the goal posts or do you change the story around to support your agenda in that office. Lowey love in make, your mind up.

 

Ouch, where did that sad obsessive rant come from? I can't find one post on here that suggests we are still paying Davies but I am happy for you to point it out to me.

 

We took Pulis on because we got a better deal (bigger transfer fee on Davies) from Stoke because we took Pulis off their books. Even discounting Pulis' wages this still made sense.

 

I forget though, in your Lowe obsessed world no one ever wants to leave and players play for free.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

 

we took pulis on because we got a better deal (bigger transfer fee on davies) from stoke because we took pulis off their books. Even discounting pulis' wages this still made sense.

 

 

Interesting statement , do you have any evidence to back it up ?

 

As we only received £1.2m (as reported) for Andrew Davies SCFC clearly didn't inflate the transfer fee very much did they .

[NickG]

WT was awesome in the B'ham cup game, captain and MOTM

we can't afford to play him sadly

 

yes, very expensive playing men with crutches!

[Arizona]

our desire to get Thomas back in the side shows how far we have fallen. For me he is a very very average centre back, not that quick, not that great in the, a poor decision maker and not that great positionally. All in all a very poor signing for £1.2m but I'd still play him ahead of Lancashire as he at least offers some physical strength.

 

I think Thomas, like Skacel and Davis, wasn't worth what we paid for him. But, like those two, that doesn't mean he isn't a decent enough player in this league.

 

I'd say he was good enough physically to do the job Killer once did in the Prem. Not as good, but with a player like Perry sweeping up next to him HCDAJFU.

[Alain Perrin]

Interesting statement , do you have any evidence to back it up ?

 

As we only received £1.2m (as reported) for Andrew Davies SCFC clearly didn't inflate the transfer fee very much did they .

 

 

Only hearsay from a Stoke supporting mate. Probably no truth in it but he has no Lowe axe to grind in either direction.

[Chez]

I think Thomas, like Skacel and Davis, wasn't worth what we paid for him. But, like those two, that doesn't mean he isn't a decent enough player in this league.

 

I'd say he was good enough physically to do the job Killer once did in the Prem. Not as good, but with a player like Perry sweeping up next to him HCDAJFU.

 

It is hard to put to one side the inflated transfer fee, not to mention the huge wages a million pound tranfer always brings. But even if I could I would still have my doubts about him. So many goals last season were as a result of mistakes by Thomas. The more I saw of him the worse he got. At Sheffield United he looked qualithym one stuf fin the air, kept BT relatively quiet and by the end strutted around like he owned Yorshire never mind Brammal Lane. But that quickly dissapeared and after a few months he looked out of his depth making errors right left and centre. He did well at right back and I'd have no problem him playing there.

[SuperMikey]

WT was rubbish last season, very prone to making errors. However, he really impressed me when I saw him play against Basingstoke in pre-season. He kept the defence together and supported the younger players in the side (Jeffrey Imudia especially) who lacked confidence but grew in confidence and got better as the game went on mainly thanks to his praise and control.

 

I'd play him alongside Pearce (or Perry if Pearce leaves permanently in January) when he's fit, because I don't think Killer will ever get back to the level of fitness where he could play week in, week out. As much as i'd like to see him back at the center of our defence, I just think that his time is up. Good news is though, that Wayne could be the man to step into his shoes. He's certainly experienced enough to be captain and he'd be first choice center back for me any day. Him alongside Pearce would work especially well imo.

[Bailey]

I'm not a massive fan of Thomas but we could definitely do with him at the minute.

 

I also think someone like Lancashire would benefit from playing alongside a more commanding and physical CB.

 

If our defensive problems fail to improve, then the sooner WT is back, the better!

[Arizona]

It is hard to put to one side the inflated transfer fee, not to mention the huge wages a million pound tranfer always brings. But even if I could I would still have my doubts about him. So many goals last season were as a result of mistakes by Thomas. The more I saw of him the worse he got. At Sheffield United he looked qualithym one stuf fin the air, kept BT relatively quiet and by the end strutted around like he owned Yorshire never mind Brammal Lane. But that quickly dissapeared and after a few months he looked out of his depth making errors right left and centre. He did well at right back and I'd have no problem him playing there.

 

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on that. By that logic, you would have no expectations what-so-ever of players from the accademy or free transfers.

 

Players like Rasiak, Skacel, John, Davis and Thomas have all proven themselves succesful to various extents and thus were offered lucrative contracts. You can't blame the players for accepting them.

 

I also think part of the problem with Thomas last season was that he had 3 different guys along side him every match (not to mention 2 different 'keepers over the season). Last year I think we played around 18-20 different players in defence. Thomas was always going to play better along side some than others.

[ottery st mary]

Ouch, where did that sad obsessive rant come from? I can't find one post on here that suggests we are still paying Davies but I am happy for you to point it out to me.

 

We took Pulis on because we got a better deal (bigger transfer fee on Davies) from Stoke because we took Pulis off their books. Even discounting Pulis' wages this still made sense.

 

I forget though, in your Lowe obsessed world no one ever wants to leave and players play for free.

 

As a Lowe luvvie ,I accept you have no clue what you are talking about.

You are Directed with your little group and it comes across so clearly on theirs and your posts..Team work on behalf of your paymaster...Your not a Saints fan.

 

Very much my strong opinion on you and your obsession for Lowey.

[L1Minus10]

Decent player. If fit and we fielded 2 out of Killer, Perry and him, we'd be fine...

[Chez]

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on that. By that logic, you would have no expectations what-so-ever of players from the accademy or free transfers.

 

Players like Rasiak, Skacel, John, Davis and Thomas have all proven themselves succesful to various extents and thus were offered lucrative contracts. You can't blame the players for accepting them.

 

I also think part of the problem with Thomas last season was that he had 3 different guys along side him every match (not to mention 2 different 'keepers over the season). Last year I think we played around 18-20 different players in defence. Thomas was always going to play better along side some than others.

 

I'm certainly more forgiving of academy players, and rightly so. Players like MLT, BT and now Surman all took time to find their feet.

 

I don't ever blame players for taking big wages. I blamed scouts and managers for signing **** players. There is not a Burnley fan in the country that didn't think we had massively overpaid. GB and scouts must take the blame.

 

I hope you are right about the number of partners effecting Thomas' game, boy do we need to improve at the back, but he must shoulder some of the blame for our defensie frailties last season. As soon as we signeed Davis (decent CB IMO) we looked much much better showing how poor Thomas was.

[StubbSaint]

what injury does he have/ How longs he going to be out for. when fit Would you pick him ahead of Lancashire?

i would pick my dustbin before lancashire hes crap

[Andy_Porter]

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on that. By that logic, you would have no expectations what-so-ever of players from the accademy or free transfers.

 

Players like Rasiak, Skacel, John, Davis and Thomas have all proven themselves succesful to various extents and thus were offered lucrative contracts. You can't blame the players for accepting them.

 

I also think part of the problem with Thomas last season was that he had 3 different guys along side him every match (not to mention 2 different 'keepers over the season). Last year I think we played around 18-20 different players in defence. Thomas was always going to play better along side some than others.

 

Can you remind me in which games Thomas was even half decent?

 

Davies came in and he showed he was twice as good as Thomas for the same sort of money. If we're pinning our hopes on Thomas getting fit then we're screwed.

[ALWAYS_SFC]

Can you remind me in which games Thomas was even half decent?

 

Davies came in and he showed he was twice as good as Thomas for the same sort of money. If we're pinning our hopes on Thomas getting fit then we're screwed.

 

TBH, i don`t think we have many hopes left to pin on anything.

 

All we can do is clutch at straws.