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Where's the loyalty?

 

It was a five year plan so were well ahead of that schedule, therefore NA desrves more time.

 

But more importantly than that, do we want to get imersed ina managerial merry go round again.

 

I can only imagione the posts if he had jumped ship last season and taken a more lucrative job, the shouts of disloyalty would have been deafening.

 

Surely relegated or not he deserves our support, or are we fair weather fans, only sticking by someone during the good times.

 

I can only speak for myself but personally im a little proud to have stuck with us through thick and thin and if truth be told I had more of an enjoyable these past 4 or 5 seasons than I have in many years (30+), knowing we were up against it both on and off the pitch.

 

Like a lot of posters on here I thnk something is amiss, not rocket science when you coinsider the results, but it may simply be NA is still learning his trade and we don't have the players to survive, but either way im not sure that worthy of blame, rather I think we should be grateful we are where we are, there's plenty of other clubs who would bite our hand off to be in the PL.

 

So why not set an example and just show unequivocal support for NA and who knows that might, just night make the difference? The other option is join the rest and hire and fire with every bump in the road. I know which road I will be travelling this season.

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Where's the loyalty?

 

It was a five year plan so were well ahead of that schedule, therefore NA desrves more time.

 

But more importantly than that, do we want to get imersed ina managerial merry go round again.

 

I can only imagione the posts if he had jumped ship last season and taken a more lucrative job, the shouts of disloyalty would have been deafening.

 

Surely relegated or not he deserves our support, or are we fair weather fans, only sticking by someone during the good times.

 

I can only speak for myself but personally im a little proud to have stuck with us through thick and thin and if truth be told I had more of an enjoyable these past 4 or 5 seasons than I have in many years (30+), knowing we were up against it both on and off the pitch.

 

Like a lot of posters on here I thnk something is amiss, not rocket science when you coinsider the results, but it may simply be NA is still learning his trade and we don't have the players to survive, but either way im not sure that worthy of blame, rather I think we should be grateful we are where we are, there's plenty of other clubs who would bite our hand off to be in the PL.

 

So why not set an example and just show unequivocal support for NA and who knows that might, just night make the difference? The other option is join the rest and hire and fire with every bump in the road. I know which road I will be travelling this season.

 

This x infinity

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I cannot believe the hysterical reactions on this board of late.

This was a non event game.

We are in the Premier League and will get a big fat payout even if we are relegated.

We got promoted a year or two earlier than expected. My prediction of 17th was always more realistic last year.

We always have had a 'yoyo' strategy (which I told you of way back in June), in place and i fully expect NA to get us promoted back into the premer league at the end of next season.

What the fans need is a bit of patience and to encourage the team !

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Where's the loyalty?

 

It was a five year plan so were well ahead of that schedule, therefore NA desrves more time.

 

But more importantly than that, do we want to get imersed ina managerial merry go round again.

.

 

 

We are not "ahead of schedule". That is total rubbish.

 

And would that be the same "managerial merry go round" that saw us sack Pardew and appoint, err, Nigel Adkins?

 

There's no merry go round. Just having the right man for the job.

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I cannot believe the hysterical reactions on this board of late.

This was a non event game.

We are in the Premier League and will get a big fat payout even if we are relegated.

We got promoted a year or two earlier than expected. My prediction of 17th was always more realistic last year.

We always have had a 'yoyo' strategy (which I told you of way back in June), in place and i fully expect NA to get us promoted back into the premer league at the end of next season.

What the fans need is a bit of patience and to encourage the team !

 

I think you've missed the point completely. It's not the defeat - it's the manner of the defeat.

 

Nobody is probably that bothered that we lost. The problem is the first team didn't turn up, unfortunately neither did the second team.

 

We didn't give it a go - that's the problem.

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I cannot believe the hysterical reactions on this board of late.

This was a non event game.

We are in the Premier League and will get a big fat payout even if we are relegated.

We got promoted a year or two earlier than expected. My prediction of 17th was always more realistic last year.

We always have had a 'yoyo' strategy (which I told you of way back in June), in place and i fully expect NA to get us promoted back into the premer league at the end of next season.

What the fans need is a bit of patience and to encourage the team !

 

Is the Yo Yo strategy the new Hoddle

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Where's the loyalty?

 

It was a five year plan so were well ahead of that schedule, therefore NA desrves more time.

 

But more importantly than that, do we want to get imersed ina managerial merry go round again.

 

I can only imagione the posts if he had jumped ship last season and taken a more lucrative job, the shouts of disloyalty would have been deafening.

 

Surely relegated or not he deserves our support, or are we fair weather fans, only sticking by someone during the good times.

 

I can only speak for myself but personally im a little proud to have stuck with us through thick and thin and if truth be told I had more of an enjoyable these past 4 or 5 seasons than I have in many years (30+), knowing we were up against it both on and off the pitch.

 

Like a lot of posters on here I thnk something is amiss, not rocket science when you coinsider the results, but it may simply be NA is still learning his trade and we don't have the players to survive, but either way im not sure that worthy of blame, rather I think we should be grateful we are where we are, there's plenty of other clubs who would bite our hand off to be in the PL.

 

So why not set an example and just show unequivocal support for NA and who knows that might, just night make the difference? The other option is join the rest and hire and fire with every bump in the road. I know which road I will be travelling this season.

 

Superb post

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I like to try in cups but no club seems to anymore. Money money money. Strange really as if you just scrape survival a few times surely at some point you have to try and do a little more? Or maybe not, lots of money after all.

 

Thought they could do a little better but not that bothered given the fact the club didn't seem that bothered. Thought we'd lose anyway. Maybe the right decision as the first team losing would have been a bigger dent to confidence. All can be judged in May based on where it all got us. Patience is in shorter supply than a saints clean sheet though. Real shame, really off putting to be honest. Same with most clubs, no loyalty, no appreciation, utter obsession with money and taking things far, far too seriously. Always feel sorry for managers who don't get time to prove themselves, especially when you'd think they'd earned time. And the pre-season nonsense where fans talk of sensible expectation, being patient and not getting on a managers back. Never lasts more than 5 minutes. Really miss the old spirit of just supporting a struggling team by getting behind them win lose or draw but guess fans have been increasingly spoiled and the Internet aspect always brings out the worst bunch. Fun times. Sweet dreams all.

 

Fully agree.

I thought we had smarter fans than the other clubs, but sadly mistaken.

So Einsteins...who do you want to replace Adkins ?

Some joker above has just mentioned Eddie Howe, the same Eddie Howe who left Burnley in a worst position than when he joined and

whose ambition is a L1 club. Yep we missed a trick there, eh !

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I just cant see the point entering a cup competition let alone a chance to get to QF and NOT playing your best side. What a let down to all the fans who made the away trip. I would be furious if I went all the way to leeds. Shows disrespect for the fans, what a waste of maney and a total let down. I watched the game at eastleigh as i looked at the Saints team I knew it would be a **** game, no shot on or off taget will 70 odd mins.

 

Keep manager, new manager or no manager its a **** take by the club and a waste of of time for all. Why not pull out of the cup or the game!

 

There is something going on at the club and someone is trying to make a point I think

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Where's the loyalty?

 

It was a five year plan so were well ahead of that schedule, therefore NA desrves more time.

 

But more importantly than that, do we want to get imersed ina managerial merry go round again.

 

I can only imagione the posts if he had jumped ship last season and taken a more lucrative job, the shouts of disloyalty would have been deafening.

 

Surely relegated or not he deserves our support, or are we fair weather fans, only sticking by someone during the good times.

 

I can only speak for myself but personally im a little proud to have stuck with us through thick and thin and if truth be told I had more of an enjoyable these past 4 or 5 seasons than I have in many years (30+), knowing we were up against it both on and off the pitch.

 

Like a lot of posters on here I thnk something is amiss, not rocket science when you coinsider the results, but it may simply be NA is still learning his trade and we don't have the players to survive, but either way im not sure that worthy of blame, rather I think we should be grateful we are where we are, there's plenty of other clubs who would bite our hand off to be in the PL.

 

So why not set an example and just show unequivocal support for NA and who knows that might, just night make the difference? The other option is join the rest and hire and fire with every bump in the road. I know which road I will be travelling this season.

 

I'm with you on this, I do not want a return to the new manager every season routine.

 

NA was again let down by some experienced players, proving what many of the posters on here have been saying for some time - that some are not up tp it.

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Where's the loyalty?

 

It was a five year plan so were well ahead of that schedule, therefore NA desrves more time.

 

But more importantly than that, do we want to get imersed ina managerial merry go round again.

 

I can only imagione the posts if he had jumped ship last season and taken a more lucrative job, the shouts of disloyalty would have been deafening.

 

Surely relegated or not he deserves our support, or are we fair weather fans, only sticking by someone during the good times.

 

I can only speak for myself but personally im a little proud to have stuck with us through thick and thin and if truth be told I had more of an enjoyable these past 4 or 5 seasons than I have in many years (30+), knowing we were up against it both on and off the pitch.

 

Like a lot of posters on here I thnk something is amiss, not rocket science when you coinsider the results, but it may simply be NA is still learning his trade and we don't have the players to survive, but either way im not sure that worthy of blame, rather I think we should be grateful we are where we are, there's plenty of other clubs who would bite our hand off to be in the PL.

 

So why not set an example and just show unequivocal support for NA and who knows that might, just night make the difference? The other option is join the rest and hire and fire with every bump in the road. I know which road I will be travelling this season.

 

100% this. Can't believe the reaction to this result, embarrassing bedwetting.

 

Adkins has done incredibly, he deserves nothing more than to stay and there is no doubt in my mind he's the man for the job and we should be behind him 100%.

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Where's the loyalty?

 

It was a five year plan so were well ahead of that schedule, therefore NA desrves more time.

 

But more importantly than that, do we want to get imersed ina managerial merry go round again.

 

I can only imagione the posts if he had jumped ship last season and taken a more lucrative job, the shouts of disloyalty would have been deafening.

 

Surely relegated or not he deserves our support, or are we fair weather fans, only sticking by someone during the good times.

 

I can only speak for myself but personally im a little proud to have stuck with us through thick and thin and if truth be told I had more of an enjoyable these past 4 or 5 seasons than I have in many years (30+), knowing we were up against it both on and off the pitch.

 

Like a lot of posters on here I thnk something is amiss, not rocket science when you coinsider the results, but it may simply be NA is still learning his trade and we don't have the players to survive, but either way im not sure that worthy of blame, rather I think we should be grateful we are where we are, there's plenty of other clubs who would bite our hand off to be in the PL.

 

So why not set an example and just show unequivocal support for NA and who knows that might, just night make the difference? The other option is join the rest and hire and fire with every bump in the road. I know which road I will be travelling this season.

 

This.

 

Can't see why this loss has seemingly turned so many from pro-Nigel to anti-Nigel. Priority is the league.

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Strange selection of posts on here after our reserves lost a game against a first team from the division below - similar to us v Blackpool as couple of seasons ago in the FA Cuo.

When Holloway got Blackpool up, against the odds, they stuck with him in the Prem, in fact he's still there.

Why the need for the disruption of change ?

 

Totally agree ! Post of the week. Bed wetters, Wrist slitters and doom merchants take note !

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Like most things in life that are unpleasant, it's the shock that hurts more than the event itself.

 

If Adkins had announced yesterday lunchtime that he couldnt be arsed with the competition and would use this round to play fringe players, to keep the first team as fresh for the league fixtures as possible, then we would have expected a defeat, and probably agreed with the "league is more important" concept.

 

As it is, we tune in at kick off and think....hmmm....and are left feeling somewhat miffed by another three goal defeat.

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Fed up of this loyalty and ahead of schedule nonsense, you can only give so much loyalty before things go too far, this has now gone too far. If we still have 4 points by 10pm on Monday then i want Nigel out, he has no excuse after changing the entire team tonight.

 

I understand that some are fed up with the idea of loyalty, albeit if you think about that concept too much you may wish to consider your own self regard, but thats a discussion for another day.

 

Anyway your loyalty has to date stretched to a whole 810 minutes (9 league games) or 34 days, whooa steady there, don't over committ yourselves too much.

 

He gets us promoted twice, has set a fine example (in my opinion) as a modern manager and brought a sense of pride to the club, who others outside looking in, seem to recognise as setting a fine example in many areas, be it youth policy, facilities or business acumen to name but a few, and your prepared to give him a whole 9 games??

 

Loyalty works both ways, have you recently purchased your first Saints tickets now that were in the PL and this is not what you expected or were promised?. I understand your frustration but if you stick with the game you will find this apart from a few elite clubs, is par for the course.

 

Don't pack it now or swap to another club stick with us.

 

My third post so that's it for tonight:)

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This.

 

Can't see why this loss has seemingly turned so many from pro-Nigel to anti-Nigel. Priority is the league.

 

Its just the manner and odd decisons again tonight on top of the Man Utd substitution then doing the same against Fulham, dropping Lambert at West Ham, tonights bench was a joke - I understand the first team but where were the players to turn that game around if needed...and they were needed

I dont think Nigel should go but there is something undoubtedly wrong at the club at the moment too many wacky decsions for someone that proved how good he can be for 2 seasons.

What is the cause is what we should focus on not sacking Nigel that's where Lowe started going wrong.

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Totally agree ! Post of the week. Bed wetters, Wrist slitters and doom merchants take note !

 

But kingsland arsenal really showed character tonight in this competition and adkins interview said they really wanted to win this game so dont follow, a really good chance of getting some confidence.

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Why is it, that having actually been at the match, I just don't see it like other posters?

 

The critical thing is to avoid injuries to the established first team, so the selection was sound.

 

Several players did themselves no harm at all. Kelvin was better than any other keeper at the club. Reeves made a strong bid for the LB slot. Chappers worked hard. JWP was solid. Jos had a good game. Even Guly worked hard.

 

But there were missing links. De Ridder and Lee were very disappointing, and without them the attacking force was badly weakened. And we had no height or physical presence up front. With either Ricky or J Rod we could have won tonight.

 

Don't blame the manager. He challenged the players he chose to step up. Some did, but not enough.

 

The league matters. This didn't.

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Sums it up for me, don't know what people were expecting tonight when that team was announced. As mentioned above they beat a strong Everton team previously. Talking about refunds? Get a grip FFS, it's football.

 

Did you go mate? Well I did and I'm on the M1 still 3 hours from home and thoroughly hacked off with that performance. I really don't understand people like you when you say " get a grip FFS that's football" I paid good money tonight and took half a day off work so I at least expect to see my team put in a shift. No shots on target in the game says everything and we had no one of quality to bring off the bench. There were 600 of us up there tonight who have been thoroughly short changed so don't f**king tell me I need to get a grip.

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What if we win against West Brom and play well?

 

Then this night will be forgotten, although winning breeds confidence and a decent performance tonight would have put us in better shape for west brom. Lose at West Brom and I think its unfortunately curtains for Adkins.

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Why is it, that having actually been at the match, I just don't see it like other posters?

 

The critical thing is to avoid injuries to the established first team, so the selection was sound.

 

Several players did themselves no harm at all. Kelvin was better than any other keeper at the club. Reeves made a strong bid for the LB slot. Chappers worked hard. JWP was solid. Jos had a good game. Even Guly worked hard.

 

But there were missing links. De Ridder and Lee were very disappointing, and without them the attacking force was badly weakened. And we had no height or physical presence up front. With either Ricky or J Rod we could have won tonight.

 

Don't blame the manager. He challenged the players he chose to step up. Some did, but not enough.

 

The league matters. This didn't.

how was it that this doesnt matter but a few years ago...when it was all about getting the winning habbit...pardew went against the club and went out to win the cup (JPT) to get the club into the habbit of winning...possibly at the expense of a league placing (which would have been a playoff spot)

 

and the general thought was that winning was better at the time

 

 

we really need wins now..but that does not matter

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Just had an email from a pal who went up for the match. 'That was the worst performance by a Saints side that I have seen in nearly 25 years! One or two exceptions, we were DIRE. I'm cringing with embarrassment at how poor we were. I will NOT be going to WBrom on Monday!'

 

Oh dear.

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Just had an email from a pal who went up for the match. 'That was the worst performance by a Saints side that I have seen in nearly 25 years! One or two exceptions, we were DIRE. I'm cringing with embarrassment at how poor we were. I will NOT be going to WBrom on Monday!'

 

Oh dear.

 

It will be a 100% different team on Monday. Not sure about the perfromance...

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Did you go mate? Well I did and I'm on the M1 still 3 hours from home and thoroughly hacked off with that performance. I really don't understand people like you when you say " get a grip FFS that's football" I paid good money tonight and took half a day off work so I at least expect to see my team put in a shift. No shots on target in the game says everything and we had no one of quality to bring off the bench. There were 600 of us up there tonight who have been thoroughly short changed so don't f**king tell me I need to get a grip.

 

This is from someone who was there - armchair viewers should have a bit of respect.

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how was it that this doesnt matter but a few years ago...when it was all about getting the winning habbit...pardew went against the club and went out to win the cup (JPT) to get the club into the habbit of winning...possibly at the expense of a league placing (which would have been a playoff spot)

 

and the general thought was that winning was better at the time

 

 

we really need wins now..but that does not matter

 

I can respect your view, but how would you feel if Morgan or Ricky had played and been injured?

 

Yes the team tonight were on the defensive for most of the game, but they actually defended well. Yes they lost it in the last ten mins but until then could have snatched something.

 

If we'd put out the first team tonight and they'd lost, yes, I'd be depressed, but we didn't and I'm not.

 

And we've learned who is ready to step up an who isn't.

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Ha ha ha Leeds v Bradford it will be then!

 

Did you go mate? Well I did and I'm on the M1 still 3 hours from home and thoroughly hacked off with that performance. I really don't understand people like you when you say " get a grip FFS that's football" I paid good money tonight and took half a day off work so I at least expect to see my team put in a shift. No shots on target in the game says everything and we had no one of quality to bring off the bench. There were 600 of us up there tonight who have been thoroughly short changed so don't f**king tell me I need to get a grip.

 

Dry your eyes, what did you expect from a reserve side that never play together. Looking at the fixture dates before hand it was always clear we wouldn't put a strong team out. Credit to you for going to the match but the get a grip comment was aimed a people talking about refunds. It's football, and sometimes **** happens.

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Who cares, this team beat a stronger Everton side.

 

Everyone grow up and concentrate on the league.

 

absolute ****ing bull****.....tonight's performance would be unacceptable from any club.....I don't expect us to win every game, but I do expect us to run our ******** into the ground and give it everything we've got....this was simply not good enough

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