fanimal Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Goal 1; 'is this game not a contact sport anymore?' - taking the p*ss now; Goal 2; 'well, comical...' Unfair as had Jose not slipped he would have booted the ball clear like Gallas did all second half. At least no controversial game deciding official mistakes to debate in our game; the only thing the ref got right was booking their left back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Why do some people take things some personally when pundits don't praise us? He's probably right, our defending was comical on a few occasions in that first half. No ref' mistakes changed the game, we lost it because of an abject 60 mins or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 I thought that, for once, they were fairly reasonable. Both goals were preventable, so they should be analysed as such, and we put Spurs under a lot of pressure in the last half an hour or so, and they highlighted that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 I think it's naive to think that the goals we let in weren't easily defendable tbh. Someone should have been on Bale for the first goal and the second goal was just our defence asleep. We can take a lot from the game but we have to move on and stop complaining when someone analyses us fairly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 For most of the first half Spurs players were allowed to pick the ball up deep in their own half and run unchallenged to our goal area. He is right with the "contact sport" remark, cos we weren`t making any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 29 October, 2012 Author Share Posted 29 October, 2012 I am not taking it personally, or actually complaining about the analysis, which was fair (although I would have liked to have seen the header chance JRod had), I just felt the comment about Jose was unjust as he clearly slipped. Nor did i say the ref made a game changing decision, just that he was poor generally. But as we all know, when you are at the bottom, slips, own goals, deflections, niggly refs, all these things go against you. And I like the fact they highlight the space we leave when playing too narrow. Yoshida cannot tackle or score from 3 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 I thought that, for once, they were fairly reasonable. Both goals were preventable, so they should be analysed as such, and we put Spurs under a lot of pressure in the last half an hour or so, and they highlighted that as well. Very much agree with this, they did the first half of this is the problems and how it was preventable in the first half, then covered the second half of well this is why htey are a lot better, just need to do that over 90 mins. Not really a kick in the teeth like a after Arsenal of they are just going down playing like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 I am not taking it personally, or actually complaining about the analysis, which was fair (although I would have liked to have seen the header chance JRod had), I just felt the comment about Jose was unjust as he clearly slipped. Nor did i say the ref made a game changing decision, just that he was poor generally. But as we all know, when you are at the bottom, slips, own goals, deflections, niggly refs, all these things go against you. And I like the fact they highlight the space we leave when playing too narrow. Yoshida cannot tackle or score from 3 yards. So you're not complaining about the analysis, other than the analysis you're complaining about in your first post?, ie Alan Hansen questioning if the game was a non contact sport (where at the same time as saying this, he showed Spurs players running with the ball and our players not wanting to go near them?), oh and the bit where he referred to us letting in a goal as comical (where at the same time he showed Spurs players given too much space, our keeper doing a comedy save and Fonte slipping over? ok, I see what you are saying....actually no I don't? I thought Hansen was pretty complementary about us really, especially our second half performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 For most of the first half Spurs players were allowed to pick the ball up deep in their own half and run unchallenged to our goal area. He is right with the "contact sport" remark, cos we weren`t making any. Which was particularly strange considering the number of free kicks the ref was giving them. It was as if we just had to breathe on them for Mason to blow his ****ing whistle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Which was particularly strange considering the number of free kicks the ref was giving them. It was as if we just had to breathe on them for Mason to blow his ****ing whistle That's exactly what many around me were saying, only not as politely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Wish we had Clattenburg as ref...would of been a few yellows at the Spurs players at least The one comical one was Walker just diving under a bit of Lallana pressure...no contact when he fell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 He was spot on with that, the one thing that did annoy me was the comment "Spurs came flying out of the blocks yet again". Well they didn't, we were on top for the first 10 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPTCount Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Hanson needs to go, he stopped playing more than 20 years ago and offers no real insight to the modern game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 I have no time for hansen, but our defending in the first half was comical bordering on the ridiculous on occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 The thing I've started picking up on with our defending is how infrequently we're defending facing the right way, and how often we get caught shorthanded - watching other matches over the weekend the majority of sides have at least 4 behind the ball, and that becomes 8 or 9 outfielders if the ball isn't moved quickly by the attacking team. We never seem to have more than 6 or 7 back there in positions to influence play, and we ALWAYS seem to be chasing back down the pitch and out of control. This is obviously heightened when the opposition breaks quickly down the wings (we've had that problem since League One), and the starting positions of BOTH our full backs being somewhere around half way every time we turn over possession. I'd expect one of them to be forward, but we seem to get both of them caught up the pitch. Lallana was required to do a ton of tracking back again yesterday, which remains one of his weaknesses. The one thing the second half proved is that attack is still our best form of defence. Nice to see Mayuka show what he can do as well, pinned Bale back, made some defensive tackles (well, at least one) and created loads. The goal won't hurt Rodriguez either, his confidence clearly improved after the goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 I can't believe that anyone watches Match of the Day and actually takes in the 'Analysis' of the so-called experts. They have been poor for years, showing no insight into football. All Hansen does is sit there and call defending bad or good. Nothing whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Thought he was spot on, no real pressing first half, too easy for spurs to waltz through and the second goal was quite comical but more unfourtunate because Fonte slipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Thought he was spot on, no real pressing first half, too easy for spurs to waltz through and the second goal was quite comical but more unfourtunate because Fonte slipped. This seems to be a recurring problem for our defenders, Clyne's continually falling on his arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 It looked like, on tv, that Jose jumped over the initial shot and then slipped running back to the goal. Could/should he not have cleared it first time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 It looked like, on tv, that Jose jumped over the initial shot and then slipped running back to the goal. Could/should he not have cleared it first time? To me on tv and from my view at the Chapel/Itchen corner (so right in front) the ball passed just behind him first, it was when he tried to change his direction that he slipped and lost that precious fraction. Unlucky in an otherwise fine game by both him and Yoshida who I think get their game together much better than Hooiveld and Jose did anytime until now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 We have the worst defence in the league and then some. FACT. Call it what you like if it makes you feel better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 This seems to be a recurring problem for our defenders, Clyne's continually falling on his arse. They need to change their ****ing boots then, technology is so advanced now that constant slipping in modern boots is unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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