Roger Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Boruc Clyne Fonte yoshida fox Morgan cork Lallana Ramirez mayuka Lambert- (jay rod not far behind) Subs: Kelvin, Richardson, jay rod, Davis, hooiveld, lee. Have to say can almost see why away jay rod would be effective with Ramirez through balls and playing on break so rickie has to really get himself very fit and play better than yesterday. But rickie deserves another game or two to see how he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Are you actually Rickie Lambert posting under a pseudonym? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 the formation that played the last 30mins suits us much better. Liked Mayuka on the right, had the pace to trouble the full back. AL was much better also in the middle rather than stuck on the left, he just hasn't got the pace to play on the wing. Haven't seen enough of Ramirez to see if he can play out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Well, as far as I'm concerned, Boruc doesn't get the nod over Davis or Gazzaniga from what I've seen of him. And he can slot into the reserves with Fox too. The pundits showed the huge expanse of turf towards the left corner that we left undefended on several occasions and it was blatently obvious that Fox ought to spend more time there, after all, left back is his position. Left back in the changing rooms is what I'd prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Fox annoyed me with crossing from deep most of the time, which is bread and butter at this level for centre backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 29 October, 2012 Author Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Well, as far as I'm concerned, Boruc doesn't get the nod over Davis or Gazzaniga from what I've seen of him. And he can slot into the reserves with Fox too. The pundits showed the huge expanse of turf towards the left corner that we left undefended on several occasions and it was blatently obvious that Fox ought to spend more time there, after all, left back is his position. Left back in the changing rooms is what I'd prefer. Only thing is Pete it wasn't fox fault for either goal it was lallanas man both times. I think looking at borucs pedigree he will be good but also think mayuka had to play cos only one with pace and Ramirez makes our team go up a level. Jay rod was good too away from home he will be good in counter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Thought Reeves did well when he came on. Would like to see more of Shaw too. Either way, get Fox off the pitch. I think Gazza should be our No1 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Randell Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Boruc Clyne Fonte yoshida fox Morgan cork Lallana Ramirez mayuka Lambert- (jay rod not far behind) Subs: Kelvin, Richardson, jay rod, Davis, hooiveld, lee. Have to say can almost see why away jay rod would be effective with Ramirez through balls and playing on break so rickie has to really get himself very fit and play better than yesterday. But rickie deserves another game or two to see how he does. Really like the look of that team. Cant wait till Ramirez and to a lesser extent Cork are back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Boruc Clyne Fonte yoshida fox Morgan cork Lallana Ramirez mayuka Lambert- (jay rod not far behind) Subs: Kelvin, Richardson, jay rod, Davis, hooiveld, lee. Have to say can almost see why away jay rod would be effective with Ramirez through balls and playing on break so rickie has to really get himself very fit and play better than yesterday. But rickie deserves another game or two to see how he does. We would (again) get hammered with that team. Far too gung ho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Harsh on Davis, and especially seeing as though he's a player who has the most prem experience in our side and people have been moaning about the lack of it. I like him, he does a very good job, and doesn't often give the ball away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maysie Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 We would (again) get hammered with that team. Far too gung ho Go on then - what's our best team/formation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Gazzaniga, Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida, Reeves; Ramirez, Schneiderlin, Lallana; Mayuka, Lambert, Rodriguez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Gazza Clyne - Fonte - Yoshi - Fox ------Davis---Morgan------ Mayuka--Ramirez----Lallana --------Rodriguez--------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Only thing is Pete it wasn't fox fault for either goal it was lallanas man both times. I think looking at borucs pedigree he will be good but also think mayuka had to play cos only one with pace and Ramirez makes our team go up a level. Jay rod was good too away from home he will be good in counter. Granted that Lallana should be offering cover for Fox when he wanders forward, as Puncheon should offer cover for Clyne. But ultimately Fox is the right back and there is no way that that amount of space should have been left open for Spurs' quick wide men to exploit. It was bordering on criminal negligence. I agree with the remainder of your team apart from Boruc and Fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Gazza Clyne - Fonte - Yoshi - Fox ------Davis---Morgan------ Mayuka--Ramirez----Lallana --------Rodriguez--------- Pretty much has to be that (shame as I like Lambert upfront but he seems to be lacking a little confidence to just hit things on the first touch at the moment). No other options at LB yet also mean Fox has to play (sadly), chucking Shaw in or giving Reeves 90 mins against someone decent would be harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 29 October, 2012 Author Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Pretty much has to be that (shame as I like Lambert upfront but he seems to be lacking a little confidence to just hit things on the first touch at the moment). No other options at LB yet also mean Fox has to play (sadly), chucking Shaw in or giving Reeves 90 mins against someone decent would be harsh. I think lambert needs a couple more games first though as he's scored 4 in 7 when started but he needs to step up his fitness levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born In The 80s Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 ------------------Gazzaniga -------------- Richardson----Fonte----Yoshida----Clyne ---------------------Cork------------------ ------------Davis--------Morgan---------- Ramirez---------------------------Lallana ------------------Lambert----------------- Clyne to me has looked far more comfortable this season on the left as opposed to the right. Richardson is a better option than Danny Fox. In goal, i'm still in shock that Gazzaniga was dropped for Boruc. Guy sat behind me yesterday seemed to think that Adkins has been told that Boruc had to play as we're spending a hell of a lot on his wages. Have no idea how true that is but it is a very strange one. Gazzaniga looked commanding, confident and assured in his run of games. Boruc, in all honesty, has looked anything but. Offensively, ideally you'd have Ramirez playing more centrally but our defensive frailty makes it pretty hard for us to give any player in the side a 'free role' IMO. I think Mayuka will prove to be a very handy option for us though. Looks to have pace and is very direct (the total opposite to Jason Puncheon). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Struggle to see what Boruc has done to demonstrate that he is worthy of being our number 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 29 October, 2012 Author Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Mayuka has to play. Only one with pace and then teams can't play high line. Ramirez threading balls to him or j rod is promising but also rickie and Ramirez play well together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreemantleSaint Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Gazzaniga Richardson Fonte Yoshida Clyne Schneiderlin Davis Puncheon Ramirez Lallana Lambert Subs: Davis, Hooiveld, Shaw, Ward-Prowse, Chaplow, Mayuka, Rodriguez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Gazzaniga Richardson Fonte Yoshida Clyne Schneiderlin Davis Puncheon Ramirez Lallana Lambert Subs: Davis, Hooiveld, Shaw, Ward-Prowse, Chaplow, Mayuka, Rodriguez I think you have to play Mayuka, he's on a different level than Puncheon. He showed yesterday he can also play that role as well, which I did have doubts about. I'm be reluctant to shift Clyne as well, I'm a believer in playing players in their natural positions when you're struggling. You don't want to over complicate things by moving things around. Fox is as good as we have at LB until January, so we have to get on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 29 October, 2012 Author Share Posted 29 October, 2012 I think you have to play Mayuka, he's on a different level than Puncheon. He showed yesterday he can also play that role as well, which I did have doubts about. I'm be reluctant to shift Clyne as well, I'm a believer in playing players in their natural positions when you're struggling. You don't want to over complicate things by moving things around. Fox is as good as we have at LB until January, so we have to get on with it. Agree wasn't fox fault for either goal yesterday and he will have to do til jan. then we need a centre back and left back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbojones10 Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 boruc Clyne Yoshida Jos Reeves Morgan JWP Mayuka Lallana Ramierez Lambert Subs; Davis, Fonte, Puncheon, Jay Rod, Cork, Lee, Steve Davis Harsh on steve davis but we need two defensive cm's to cover that defense of ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 boruc Clyne Yoshida Jos Reeves Morgan JWP Mayuka Lallana Ramierez Lambert Subs; Davis, Fonte, Puncheon, Jay Rod, Cork, Lee, Steve Davis Harsh on steve davis but we need two defensive cm's to cover that defense of ours. JWP isn't particularly defensive. And although I like JWP, he's not better than Davis or Cork !? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbojones10 Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 JWP isn't particularly defensive. And although I like JWP, he's not better than Davis or Cork !? I think hes more defensive then Davis, Cork will take a while to get used to the pace of this league and i think he might be a little lightweight. Whoever gets the nod to play with Morgan has to be playing in a more defensive role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Corks a little lightweight but JWP isn't ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Gazza Clyne - Fonte - Yoshida - Shaw Schneiderlin Mayuka - Ramirez - Lallana - Fox Lambert Subs: K.Davis, Hooiveld, Cork, Puncheon, S.Davis, Ramirez, Rodriguez and Lee. Our left side has been desperately exposed all season but Fox's main contribution is crossing and set pieces so I have selected him and Shaw to solidify defensively as well as maintain a threat down that flank ! Lambert could be replaced by Jrod, Shaw by Reeves or a new LB come January ! I know that many won't agree with this but it offers balance on both sides and hopefully would help to bolster our defensive frailties ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Harsh on Davis, and especially seeing as though he's a player who has the most prem experience in our side and people have been moaning about the lack of it. I like him, he does a very good job, and doesn't often give the ball away. I've liked Davis too, but yesterday he was poor. He did give the ball away a lot, and to be honest, he and Schneiderlin really haven't hit it off and formed a good partnership. Huddlestone and Sandro were far superior as a pairing than Schneiderlin and Davis, and I think Cork will be back in place of Davis when he is fit. My best team would be the following: Gazzaniga Clyne Fonte Yoshida Reeves Schneiderlin Lallana Cork Ramirez Lambert Lee Subs: Davis, Fox, Hooiveld, Davis, Rodriguez, Mayuka, Puncheon Rationale: Haven't seen anything from Boruc that warrants his selection over Gazzaniga. There seem to be some on here scapegoating Boruc - that's not my agenda at all. I was just more impressed with Gazzaniga. Boruc's kicking was woeful yesterday (he can hardly reach half-way) and he looked less than comfortable coming for that early cross. Reeves for Fox is less about Reeves, than about Fox being a massive weak link. Granted, Fox definitely gives us a threat from set-pieces, but for every goal he may create from a set piece, he costs us 3 or 4 with his poor positioning and lack of pace. Schneiderlin and Cork is our best midfield duo and with Lallana playing as part of a midfield three, that really gives us some composure in the middle which was seriously lacking until Lallana moved more central. Ramirez plays, simple. Lambert plays too...but someone in the coaching staff has to drum it into him that he cannot be the one delivering crosses all game long. He needs to be on the end of them. And Tadanari Lee gives us pace, work rate and an attacking threat up top. On the bench, Mayuka stretched the game for us yesterday but apart from one dribble and cross to Lambert, and one excellent piece of tracking back and defending, his contribution was pretty minimal. I just think he offers us more impact from the bench than he would starting but frankly, I can't say that with any certainty until he actually starts a game. Fox, as I've said, is a threat from set pieces and provides full back cover from the bench. Hooiveld is there because we have no one else besides Seaborne, and we really dont want to go there. Davis gets a spot ahead of JWP because of his experience - there's really not much to choose between them though. Rodriguez has been getting beter and actually looked ok wide left towards the end of the game yesterday but I'm still not convinced he's anything other than a traditional centre forward, and at the moment, Lambert is still my preference. And Puncheon gets the last spot on the bench purely because I think he's technically better than Guly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Davis Richardson Fonte Hooiveld Fox Chaplow Cork Schneiderlin Lallana Lambert Sharp In all seriousness, there's a lot to be said for continuity even if it isn't the best individuals. Takes so long to get players synced together and a decent team spirit, yet fans seem to demand countless new signings every window. Sometimes you see improvement, but far more likely is an expensive QPR shaped mess. Yes it's a higher standard, but we don't look as confident or spirited as last season. We've lost something and it's not about the opposition. IMO, shipping out people like Sharp and Hammond then letting Puncheon in the team is never going to do much for team spirit, commitment and hard work. Our fortunes have nothing to do with changes in personnel. It's called lack of confidence stemming from losing all the time. And that line-up is a recipe for both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Some very interesting lineups on this thread. Would have thought our best 11 would be pretty unanimous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 This thread highlights one of our major problems this season. We, the fans, don't know our best XI, and I don't think Nigel does either. 4-4-2, 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1, there's not been a great deal of consistency. Granted, injuries and the like have played their part, but in comparison to last season, it's anyone's guess as to what our best XI is currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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