SNSUN Posted 28 October, 2012 Share Posted 28 October, 2012 Mayuka made a good impact today when he came on, and has looked good when I've seen his cameos for us. What are you opinions on him? Should he be starting? Is he better as an impact sub? Are we still bedding him in to the British game? He's only 21 but from what I saw of the highlights today, I'd like to see him get a few full games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 28 October, 2012 Share Posted 28 October, 2012 Has to play from the start. We really are in desperate need of some pace in the side. I'd have de Ridder on the bench for the same reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 28 October, 2012 Share Posted 28 October, 2012 Has to play from the start. We really are in desperate need of some pace in the side. I'd have de Ridder on the bench for the same reason. You were doing so well until your last sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 28 October, 2012 Share Posted 28 October, 2012 One or two seem to have an opinion on him here...... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?40838-West-Brom-v-Saints-build-up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Drop puncheon for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 After having watched him in the African cup of nations last year he's a class above Puncheon when on his game. I think he could turn out to be a key player for us as soon as he can get in the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 I like him alot, another one who has been affected by Injuries so far this season, but if we can get him on the pitch now we have a chance to make things happen. Although I can see why NA wants him as a sub, he can definitely effect a tiring team in a game - none of our other subs at the mo really can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 He's amazing on Fifa13. Start him I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 How I wish we could have the pace seen from Dempsey, Lennon, Bale and Defoe yesterday. It was frightening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 I like him alot, another one who has been affected by Injuries so far this season, but if we can get him on the pitch now we have a chance to make things happen. Although I can see why NA wants him as a sub, he can definitely effect a tiring team in a game - none of our other subs at the mo really can. Sadly, with our sh*thouse defence, we're usually behind and chasing the game when Mayuka makes an appearance. Get him on from the start and see what happens (can't be any worse than our current predicament). And I don't know why we're relying on Puncheon, who didn't play for us last season and instead played a bit part role for relegated team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 And I don't know why we're relying on Puncheon, who didn't play for us last season and instead played a bit part role for relegated team. Last year he played a bit part team for a newly promoted team in the PL (who did not get relegated) and then played 9 times for us in the 2nd half of the season. I think you seem to have missed a season. But I agree Mayuka is far better than Punch who is too inconsistent in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Drop puncheon for him. Would almost be tempted to drop Puncheon for De Ridder. Both useless but De Ridder is faster... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Does mayuka play in an entirely different position to punch... As every time he comes on. He plays on the right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Punch plays on the right....Mayuka plays on the right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Last year he played a bit part team for a newly promoted team in the PL (who did not get relegated) and then played 9 times for us in the 2nd half of the season. I think you seem to have missed a season. But I agree Mayuka is far better than Punch who is too inconsistent in my view. That's what moving abroad for some time does In any case; Puncheon at top level doesn't do it for me. And Mayuka isn't even a right winger, but does a much better job there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 He makes the 433 work with three strikers. A far better player than Puncheon and his anticipation for covering his full back was also good. He should have been in from the moment he signed. He doesn't need to bed in. As for the bench I think DeRidder should always be one of the 7 because of his pace. If we need to change games he would be more use than introducing another square passer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 He makes the 433 work with three strikers. A far better player than Puncheon and his anticipation for covering his full back was also good. He should have been in from the moment he signed. He doesn't need to bed in. As for the bench I think DeRidder should always be one of the 7 because of his pace. If we need to change games he would be more use than introducing another square passer. Totally agree. Mayuka should start and De Ridder should be on the bench as the "impact" sub. No disrespect to Guly but as an "impact" player he really does not actually satisfy the criteria in the games he has come on in this season. That being the case then others should be given the opportunity to make that impact - either starting or on the bench- Mayuka and SDR being the case in point. It seems entirely logical and reasonable to me. Its not just the starting 11 that are under scrutiny- you have to ask what was the "impact" of the subs too, and this season from Guly in particular and barring that ridiculous dropping of Lambert at City, its been nothing. I was pleased with Reeves impact to be fair - well done lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Totally agree. Mayuka should start and De Ridder should be on the bench as the "impact" sub. No disrespect to Guly but as an "impact" player he really does not actually satisfy the criteria in the games he has come on in this season. That being the case then others should be given the opportunity to make that impact - either starting or on the bench- Mayuka and SDR being the case in point. It seems entirely logical and reasonable to me. Its not just the starting 11 that are under scrutiny- you have to ask what was the "impact" of the subs too, and this season from Guly in particular and barring that ridiculous dropping of Lambert at City, its been nothing. I was pleased with Reeves impact to be fair - well done lad. I think Reeves is a revelation. I believe he is 20, he has a high tempo, I think he is worth a go. He looked good in midfield but I was really impressed with his tempo, tackling, and movement, he is an excellent passer with either foot. He put in a first class cross for a goal on the far post v MU U21s after being put in on the overlap by SDR. SDR had a part in all three of our goals in that game. (Obviously not enough for Adkins who was at the game) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambol2K9 Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 I can't believe some would have de ridder on the bench. He has pace but his end product is woeful, don't rate him at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Was very impressed by Mayuka yesterday. Has to start against West Brom. Puncheon was sh!te yesterday and against West Ham. Maybe a bit of competition will give him a kick up the ar5e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Mayuka made a good impact today when he came on, and has looked good when I've seen his cameos for us. What are you opinions on him? Should he be starting? Is he better as an impact sub? Are we still bedding him in to the British game? He's only 21 but from what I saw of the highlights today, I'd like to see him get a few full games. Showed enough today to warrant a starting place - even though Rodriguez scored his first Prem goal yesterday, Mayuka might have leapt over him with his inspirational workrate and creativity yesterday. Would love to see him start alongside Rodriguez at Leeds to get some games. Of course then it's about who you drop. I have an opinion there, but most of you have already read it and I can't be bothered arguing it again. Suffice to say there are plenty of available striker spots and he could get a run at right wing or through the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 I think Reeves is a revelation. I believe he is 20, he has a high tempo, I think he is worth a go. He looked good in midfield but I was really impressed with his tempo, tackling, and movement, he is an excellent passer with either foot. He put in a first class cross for a goal on the far post v MU U21s after being put in on the overlap by SDR. SDR had a part in all three of our goals in that game. (Obviously not enough for Adkins who was at the game) Having taken the pee out of Reeves for most of last season for being lightweight and hitting the same cut-through sliced pass in every situation, I thought he was excellent up at Stevenage when he came on in centre midfield, really used the ball well and did everything with tempo and accuracy - using sidefoots. He's not had much of a break and he's going to struggle a little with the physicality of the Prem, but he does have something to offer - anywhere down the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Having taken the pee out of Reeves for most of last season for being lightweight and hitting the same cut-through sliced pass in every situation, I thought he was excellent up at Stevenage when he came on in centre midfield, really used the ball well and did everything with tempo and accuracy - using sidefoots. He's not had much of a break and he's going to struggle a little with the physicality of the Prem, but he does have something to offer - anywhere down the left. He's very agile and pretty pacy too. Work on his defensive game and put him in the gym and he may well become a very good left back! I really rate Ben, think he will be a good player for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Let's put it this way. If he was in at ManUre or Chelski or whoever he would be getting a regular game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 I can't believe some would have de ridder on the bench. He has pace but his end product is woeful, don't rate him at all. it's a known fact at SFC that the less you play the better you get until you actually play and everyone remembers exactly why you weren't playing. Right now our best players are Cork,Ramirez and Shaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 I think Reeves is a revelation. I believe he is 20, he has a high tempo, I think he is worth a go. He looked good in midfield but I was really impressed with his tempo, tackling, and movement, he is an excellent passer with either foot. I've seen him several time snow and each time I feel exactly the same. Great little footballer. Not a left back, but the fact he has dropped in there and done a great job shows what he is made of. He's in the Paul Scholes mould, plays with his head up and has a great eye for a pass. If he turns out to be even half as good he'll be some player. That said I'm not sure I'd pick him ahead of JWP, Morgan and Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 it's a known fact at SFC that the less you play the better you get until you actually play and everyone remembers exactly why you weren't playing. Right now our best players are Cork,Ramirez and Shaw. Pretty sure Ramirez will be our best player until at least Jan 1st whether he's in the team or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Agree with the view that Mayuka should START. I know Adkins likes to hold back one impact player, but I honestly am getting tired of having to come back from one or two goals down before Mayuka comes on. What's wrong with playing your best team from the start?! I wouldn't be averse to having De Ridder as the impact player. And Guly, well, he just just go out on loan today. He is far too slow for the Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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