Kaiser Soze Posted 28 October, 2012 Share Posted 28 October, 2012 How long will NC give him? Personally I'll be amazed if he is here this time next week. Not saying I want NA out, quite the opposite actually, but just can't see Cortese putting up with getting beat every week too much longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 28 October, 2012 Share Posted 28 October, 2012 In the car on the way down Norwich was the deciding game at the end of the month. A couple of performances like the second half today (across 90 mins though) then the bar is set on Reading at home, loose that and he's gone though. Don't see how abandoning Adkins right now will help things, especially getting a 4-4-2 hoof merchant to "save" the club will leave us looking like Villa (who should be in the champ next year) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 28 October, 2012 Share Posted 28 October, 2012 If NC is going to relieve Nigel of his duties, he will have to have somebody else ready to take over. The last thing we want is a caretaker manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLY Posted 28 October, 2012 Share Posted 28 October, 2012 How long will NC give him? Personally I'll be amazed if he is here this time next week. Not saying I want NA out, quite the opposite actually, but just can't see Cortese putting up with getting beat every week too much longer. sooner the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 28 October, 2012 Share Posted 28 October, 2012 In the car on the way down Norwich was the deciding game at the end of the month. A couple of performances like the second half today (across 90 mins though) then the bar is set on Reading at home, loose that and he's gone though. Don't see how abandoning Adkins right now will help things, especially getting a 4-4-2 hoof merchant to "save" the club will leave us looking like Villa (who should be in the champ next year) Drunk, or driving and posting at the same time? Can anyone translate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1976.4.38 Posted 28 October, 2012 Share Posted 28 October, 2012 nine games and we should get rid,some of you lot are unreal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk Posted 28 October, 2012 Share Posted 28 October, 2012 How long will NC give him? Personally I'll be amazed if he is here this time next week. Not saying I want NA out, quite the opposite actually, but just can't see Cortese putting up with getting beat every week too much longer. The thing is nobody knows just what NC is really like.Is he really the ruthless man everyone seems to think or is he more calm and more tolerant than People give him credit for.Guess we'll find out soon,personally i sadly think NA will be gone soon,its a shame because he deserves to succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 28 October, 2012 Share Posted 28 October, 2012 Drunk, or driving and posting at the same time? Can anyone translate? Wasn't driving this week. On the way down thought he as another 4-5 games with how its looking, on the way back he should be safe till december (Reading and Norwich at home are the must wins that define his position) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 28 October, 2012 Share Posted 28 October, 2012 Wasn't driving this week. On the way down thought he as another 4-5 games with how its looking, on the way back he should be safe till december (Reading and Norwich at home are the must wins that define his position) Cheers, I understand now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 28 October, 2012 Share Posted 28 October, 2012 I think he's about to be sacked. Gutted for him. Just a reminder Cortese... in football you only sack a manager when you have a better replacement ready to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 28 October, 2012 Share Posted 28 October, 2012 he seems confident he will get time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollysaints1 Posted 28 October, 2012 Share Posted 28 October, 2012 i'd say he's in a better position than he was last week. im more confident he'll last through this week than i was about last week. In all honesty i wanted him gone last week, however naive of me that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 28 October, 2012 Share Posted 28 October, 2012 No one can think of a replacement beyond crooked 'Arry and the fat Spanish waiter. Stick with him there are still worse teams than us in this league. I would take so much pleasure if we see out this storm and in 10 Yeats time Adkins is still in charge and we are a force in the premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chi saint Posted 28 October, 2012 Share Posted 28 October, 2012 Did we not have a '5 year plan'? If so then NA has exceeded that by getting into the PL a year early, ergo he should be allowed at least a full season, and were we relegated there is an arguement that he should be allowed to get us promoted the following season. More importantly were not relegated, were not close to being relegated and have all to play for, so why adopt a knee jerk reaction and start the old managerial merry go round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 28 October, 2012 Share Posted 28 October, 2012 I think Adkins deserves to succeed just not at this club,I think his time at the club has run its course and we need a fresh approach,his positive clap trap is starting to get on my tits if I'm honest because its not working. Time to go,time to start afresh with a new manager,some might think its harsh because of what he's achieved but you can't survive by living on past glories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 28 October, 2012 Share Posted 28 October, 2012 No one can think of a replacement beyond crooked 'Arry and the fat Spanish waiter. Stick with him there are still worse teams than us in this league. I would take so much pleasure if we see out this storm and in 10 Yeats time Adkins is still in charge and we are a force in the premiership. And we haven't played any of them yet - 6 of the top 7 though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 28 October, 2012 Share Posted 28 October, 2012 I can't beleive this subject hasn't come up before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 28 October, 2012 Share Posted 28 October, 2012 And we haven't played any of them yet - 6 of the top 7 though The latest stat to use to justify our awful form. They're all up there because they've played us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 NC should seriously look at NA's position by the end of next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 No one can think of a replacement beyond crooked 'Arry and the fat Spanish waiter. Stick with him there are still worse teams than us in this league. I would take so much pleasure if we see out this storm and in 10 Yeats time Adkins is still in charge and we are a force in the premiership. I see what you did there - I see what your Words Worth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLY Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 nine games and we should get rid,some of you lot are unreal No just realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Another PL game, just to see if there is a more permanent reaction to yesterdays fightback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Just on the radio. Talking about Adkins and say he seems unable to take to the prem. no where near street wise enough and appears not to be learning Saying he will take us down and be remembered like boothroyd and Iain dowie I kid you not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Just on the radio. Talking about Adkins and say he seems unable to take to the prem. no where near street wise enough and appears not to be learning Saying he will take us down and be remembered like boothroyd and Iain dowie I kid you not What station was that on?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Did we not have a '5 year plan'? If so then NA has exceeded that by getting into the PL a year early, ergo he should be allowed at least a full season Seriously, how many more are going to come out with this rubbish? We did not get promoted a year early. Cortese expected us to be promoted last season. Not "hoped", expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Seriously, how many more are going to come out with this rubbish? We did not get promoted a year early. Cortese expected us to be promoted last season. Not "hoped", expected. In which case the five year plan must include a yoyo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 In which case the five year plan must include a yoyo. A thirty million pound+ yo yo ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 We need to get rid of Les Reed before dumping Nigel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 How long will NC give him? Personally I'll be amazed if he is here this time next week. Not saying I want NA out, quite the opposite actually, but just can't see Cortese putting up with getting beat every week too much longer. Yes - but doesn't Cortese and his team of scouts and player purchasing board not share equal responsibility for where we are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Oh good. Yet another thread saying exactly the same as several others; another poster who lacks the imagination to realise that his post could easily have been added to one of those other threads. The conclusion must be that he has a desperate desire to draw attention to himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 (edited) Just on the radio. Talking about Adkins and say he seems unable to take to the prem. no where near street wise enough and appears not to be learning Saying he will take us down and be remembered like boothroyd and Iain dowieI kid you not Radio Skate??!! 1 - It's October 2- We're not way adrift 3- We should have learned what happens when we go the multi-manager route 4- NA appears to have the dressing room support...how badly would it affect morale if the 'together as one' ethos that has brought us through successive promotions is disrupted? 5-We are not playing badly...still adjusting in my opinion to new players, new pace of game - we're not alone in that but we're better than most others in this position. Not shooting the messenger - just pointing out that it's about opinions and knee jerk responses rarely being the right ones. I think a specialist defensive coach could be a good addition - to talk replacement at this stage of settling in to the new league would be plain daft. Edited 29 October, 2012 by dronskisaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 3- We should have learned what happens when we go the multi-manager route Between 1994 and 2004 we essentially went through a manager a year, yet still sustained top flight status, often with very healthy mid table finishes. This forum is going to implode if we do stick with Nige and still go down. ...but...but..but...this cannot be....we stuck by him...he should have turned into Alex Ferguson..... although, of course, the Lawrie Mac story will get wheeled out.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Between 1994 and 2004 we essentially went through a manager a year, yet still sustained top flight status, often with very healthy mid table finishes. This forum is going to implode if we do stick with Nige and still go down. ...but...but..but...this cannot be....we stuck by him...he should have turned into Alex Ferguson..... although, of course, the Lawrie Mac story will get wheeled out.... Yep, the whole discussion is laughable. No point with sticking with a manager for "stability" reasons if he aint up to the job... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 CB Fry has laid down the ground rules of the debate on this subject. Nobody is allowed to cite historical examples to prove their point, except him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 CB Fry has laid down the ground rules of the debate on this subject. Nobody is allowed to cite historical examples to prove their point, except him. Not like you to be pathetically wrong. Oh, actually, it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Radio Skate??!! 1 - It's October 2- We're not way adrift 3- We should have learned what happens when we go the multi-manager route 4- NA appears to have the dressing room support...how badly would it affect morale if the 'together as one' ethos that has brought us through successive promotions is disrupted? 5-We are not playing badly...still adjusting in my opinion to new players, new pace of game - we're not alone in that but we're better than most others in this position. Not shooting the messenger - just pointing out that it's about opinions and knee jerk responses rarely being the right ones. I think a specialist defensive coach could be a good addition - to talk replacement at this stage of settling in to the new league would be plain daft. On the other hand the last time our chairman sacked a manager it worked out very well...so based on his own experince he might not feel it's such a bad move.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 And we haven't played any of them yet - 6 of the top 7 though Well none of them apart from Villa and Wigan, and maybe Wet Sham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 The latest stat to use to justify our awful form. They're all up there because they've played us! We are not playing sufficiently well, true, but to suggest that Man C, Arsenal, Man U et al are only where they are because they beat us is laughable at best. Presumably they didn't require any further points to reach such lofty positions? Either that or there's a level of sarcasm to your post which is lost in cyberspace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Not like you to be pathetically wrong. Oh, actually, it is. CB Fry: Who cares about the forty thousandth retread of the Alex Ferguson routine? It's been wheeled out on webforums for every single manager we've ever had. Forty thousand times that SAF has been cited as an example and even then it hadn't penetrated your skull that he had what for him was a rather crap third season coming 11th and that the fans were calling for him to be dismissed. But not like you to be pathetically wrong, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Middlesbourgh fans were calling for Bryan Robsons head after he for them promoted. He wasn't the new Alex Ferguson. There's one historical example where it didn't work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Dave Jones got Wolves promoted. He wasn't the new Alex Ferguson either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Roy Keane got Sunderland promoted. If anyone was the new Alex Ferguson it was him, right? How did that work out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Adyn boothroyd got Watford promoted. He wasn't the new Alex Ferguson either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Our problem was never sacking managers, it was who we were appointing. Sometimes a manager may even be a good one but you have to sack them just to get the 'new manager bounce' needed to stay up. Fresh ideas and all that. I'd stick with Adkins for the moment though, hopefully Mayuka from the start in the next game might make the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Turkish are you retired or unemployed? Just wondering, because you seem to spend most of your 3 score years and 10 posting on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 Forty thousand times that SAF has been cited as an example and even then it hadn't penetrated your skull that he had what for him was a rather crap third season coming 11th and that the fans were calling for him to be dismissed. But not like you to be pathetically wrong, eh? What are you talking about now? Oh yes, the usual Wes Tender trick of making stuff up. I am completely aware of the Alex Ferguson story, better than most on here. Where have I ever said he didn't struggle during his time there? Do tell. Wes Tender. Pathetically wrong, as ever, as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed demon Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 I think in the Dons head, NA has already gone. I wouldn't be surprised if we beat reading and then he gets sacked. Once NC has made his mind up thats it IMO and I think he probably has. Whether he goes tomorrow, next week or next month is another matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 How many times have people said "I can't see Nigel lasting beyond x game" so far this season? And all this Alex Ferguson comparison talk in boring as hell. He doesn't even need to be as a good as Ferguson but he is better than a lot of the clowns people on here are claiming he is no better than. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 I think in the Dons head, NA has already gone. I wouldn't be surprised if we beat reading and then he gets sacked. Once NC has made his mind up thats it IMO and I think he probably has. Whether he goes tomorrow, next week or next month is another matter. Based on what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 October, 2012 Share Posted 29 October, 2012 How many times have people said "I can't see Nigel lasting beyond x game" so far this season? And all this Alex Ferguson comparison talk in boring as hell. He doesn't even need to be as a good as Ferguson but he is better than a lot of the clowns people on here are claiming he is no better than. Of he takes us down. He won't be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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