Saints 1-2 Spurs // Post-Match Views

[Thedelldays]

To be fair - he's right. You do go on and on and on. We already know your opinion. It doesn't get more right with constant repetition

 

This is a message board is it not

Mods are free to lock, delete, ban me

 

I ask always sfc. If e has an opinion as he rarely posts it.just quotes others called them a d I c k h e a d

[Saint_John]

Did we switch to 4-3-3 - felt like 4-4-2 with just a change in personnel. Lallana still seemed to be coming off the left and JR/RL still appeared to hold a central position. Agree though that Mayuka made a huge difference - even better if he could play centrally, pulling defenders to the left and right.

 

YES.

We changed from 4-4-2 to 4-2-3-1 when Mayuka came on.

JayR on the left wing and Mayuka on the right with Adam playing the 3rd attacking midfielder. Davis & Morgan were the holding midfielders. We looked like a side that could compete in the PL once we changed from 4-4-2 to 4-2-3-1.

[Barry the Badger]

First half it looked like a cup game between a League 1 and prem side. Bales header was bloody brilliant, unfortunately.

 

Second half spurs thought they had the job done and handed us the initiative. Once we got a bit of momentum we were a completely different team, Nigel needs to find a way to get them starting games with that swagger.

[Wes Tender]

Boruc did nothing wrong at all for the second goal - came straight out as he should and made himself as big as possible in an attempt to block the shot. In fact, if the shot hadn't been scuffed, he would probably have saved it.

Having seen the incident on Match of the Day, my conviction that he should have come out earlier and more quickly are justified in my mind. Also, having started to come forward, he clearly hesitated for a split second.

[kpturner]

Having seen the incident on Match of the Day, my conviction that he should have come out earlier and more quickly are justified in my mind. Also, having started to come forward, he clearly hesitated for a split second.

Well, a not entirely unexpected attempt to justify your assertion. Personally, I think it is ludicrously harsh assessment. I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

[Chez]

YES.

We changed from 4-4-2 to 4-2-3-1 when Mayuka came on.

JayR on the left wing and Mayuka on the right with Adam playing the 3rd attacking midfielder. Davis & Morgan were the holding midfielders. We looked like a side that could compete in the PL once we changed from 4-4-2 to 4-2-3-1.

 

 

I'm amazed there are a few on this thread that didn't notice this. One guy suggests we only played 4-3-3 for a few minutes! I mean if supporters are going to games and can't even identify a formation, how on earth can you trust their judgement on anything else?

 

We start 4-4-2 to try and protect the fullbacks, it doesn't work because we make mistakes (ball-watching and not getting tight) and then can't get control of the ball in midfield so he gambles on taking charge of the midfield by shuffling Lallana inside and Rodriguez outside and it works a treat.

 

I'd like to add that this puts to bed once and for all the theory that Cortese has any sway when it comes to formation. All week we've had people on here informing us that Adkins HAS BEEN INSTRUCTED to play 4-3-3 rather than has dictated to the rest of the club that they must play the 4-3-3 that he has chosen.

[skintsaint]

Having seen the incident on Match of the Day, my conviction that he should have come out earlier and more quickly are justified in my mind. Also, having started to come forward, he clearly hesitated for a split second.

 

as posted on another thread I feel that him rushing off his line caused him to rush his shot, much better than Davis for example who normally doesnt come off his line only to be beaten at his near post. The 2nd goals apparently comedy act was all due to Fonte slipping at the wrong time.

[SB]

SB's post match thoughts.

 

I'm one of jays biggest critics, however once he scored that goal he appeared to be a new player with new confidence, big positive.

Mayaka was quality, very useful think he is a 'super sub'

 

Danny fox had a very good game, was impressed .

 

Negatives :

 

Lambert looked like a league one tosser

 

Lallana very predictable

 

Borac was weak, we still don't have a first choice keeper.

[Wes Tender]

as posted on another thread I feel that him rushing off his line caused him to rush his shot, much better than Davis for example who normally doesnt come off his line only to be beaten at his near post. The 2nd goals apparently comedy act was all due to Fonte slipping at the wrong time.

 

I have to repeat, Davis is actually quite good at coming off his line when there is an opportunity for him to get to a ball into the box before the striker. He makes a quick decision and doesn't hesitate. I reckon he would easily have got to that ball first, so the clearance off the line wouldn't have been necessary. Boruc was slow to decide to come in the first place and then hesitated.

[Wes Tender]

Danny fox had a very good game, was impressed .

 

Danny Fox was appalling. He left acres of space for the Spurs wide men to exploit. Thank God he was substituted.

[derry]

There's plenty of Premier league tape out there showing how weak Clyne is on a ball slung to the far post so we can expect to see it more and more.

 

He offers a lot going forward and in certain defensive situations but he has to address this weakness - pronto.

 

I'm starting to wonder if we employ a ball-watching coach because we're very good at it.

 

I wish I'd thought of that, genius. Seriously Bill, I just don't think our coaching is that good, especially defensively, we need to get a top class man in to advise, Ron suggested Gary Neville or someone of his ilk.

 

As for Clyne and it also applies to Fox. They are always facing the wrong way so have no way of challenging the attacker. Both face inwards so that the attacker is attacking the ball over the top of them. Clyne needed to be facing outwards towards the dugout watching the ball coming in, in front of him, so that he was then in a position to attack the ball and possibly clatter Bale in the process. I saw nothing yesterday from Bale going in where he might get clattered. Under a determined challenge he wouldn't have had a free header. I thought Boruc was a bit ponderous and I much prefer Gazzaniga.

 

One thing I thought was crass, yesterday was at the start of injury time fighting for an equaliser and every second vital, Lallana, Schneiderlin and a couple of others surrounded the referee over a meaningless free kick to Tottenham and wasted at least 30 secs arguing. Referees don't change their minds, they need a sharp kick up the backside, it was our time they were wasting, I bet the Tottenham players were laughing at our lack of nous..

[Andy Durman]

Danny Fox was appalling. He left acres of space for the Spurs wide men to exploit. Thank God he was substituted.

 

Sorry Wes but i'm gonna pick on your post. You have to understand the way a back 4 plays these days to understand why Danny Fox is leaving acres of space.

 

When an attack comes down the right side the back 4 move across with the right back pushing more forward. In this way the defense remains compact. However if the game quickly changes to the left side then the left back must move quickly to the left with the remaining 3 also moving across to keep the defense compact.

 

The problem is we are not quick enough in the transition. Clyne is better because he's faster, but we get very quickly exposed down the left side.

 

Hope this makes sense. See how the left and right backs always tuck in and give space to the opponents right and left midfielders.

 

I think Danny Fox is getting exploited because of the system and the speed of the premier league teams.

 

I play left back and feel sorry for him. You really need to be fast.

Edited 29 October, 2012 by Andy Durman

[rooney]

Spurs were so fast coming at us in the first half we looked bewildered with their pace. J-Rod looked good and Lallana worked his socks off covering for Fox who left so much space on his man and could not get back. Just watch him jogging back on MOTD for the Spurs 2nd goal. We were so poor first half but so good seconed half especially when Mayuka came on. It seems NA is right--we need a little more confidence. Also Boruc to be more fan friendly. He was hesitant in coming out for Spurs second goal. Agree with most on here that we need Gazza back.

[derry]

Dare I mention Ryan Dickson?

 

Lallana has never liked playing with him. I think that has done for him here. That came from a family member not long after he arrived. He was never really given a chance.

[VectisSaint]

Danny Fox was appalling. He left acres of space for the Spurs wide men to exploit. Thank God he was substituted.

 

This! Ok my view is based on Sky match choice highlights, but Fox was caught out of position and ball watchinng at least 4 times. Two of tose occassions led to their goals. The problem is that his poor defensive positioning pulls the rest of the defence across to cover for him, Yoshida with Defoe for their first a case in point. I'm quite sure that if we could solve the Lb problem we would be fine. Clyne, Fonte and Yoshi are perfectly Ok Imho. Watching the highlights we really did not look as bad as it seemed reading the remarks on here yesterday and listening to Whispering Dave. With Ramirez, Lee and Cork to come in we cohld be ok. Do we still have 1 space in the squad for a free agent?

[Fitzhugh Fella]

Lallana has never liked playing with him. I think that has done for him here. That came from a family member not long after he arrived. He was never really given a chance.

 

Bit strange when we have a dearth of full-backs that one is denied a chance because one of his team mates "doesn't like playing with him". No wonder the club is in a little bit of defensive disarray. But the fact remain he is still on the books and available.

[derry]

It's not the system, it's the players being comfortable, The change worked because 433 was natural with three strikers and was even better with Guly, Schneiderlin and Lallana although Davis holding and Schneiderlin attacking was an improvement but really only because the introduction of Mayuka turned the system from a one legged duck into a swan. It's all about using the system that the players fit into naturally, just picking a system and putting in players to make up a pattern never works unless the players suit the system.

[derry]

Bit strange when we have a dearth of full-backs that one is denied a chance because one of his team mates "doesn't like playing with him". No wonder the club is in a little bit of defensive disarray. But the fact remain he is still on the books and available.

 

At that time he wanted to play with Harding and I presume that is what happened until Fox arrived. Lallana really needs to look at his defensive duties. He is a liability defensively in the Premier because he isn't disciplined enough to get back into a covering position before the ball is on it's way. Fox isn't the best defender so it needs both of them covering that area Spurs murdered us in yesterday.

[skintsaint]

I have to repeat, Davis is actually quite good at coming off his line when there is an opportunity for him to get to a ball into the box before the striker. He makes a quick decision and doesn't hesitate. I reckon he would easily have got to that ball first, so the clearance off the line wouldn't have been necessary. Boruc was slow to decide to come in the first place and then hesitated.

 

Have to disagree on that, Gervinho's goal the other week and the one against Blackpool near end of last season sums up Davis coming out ability for me (two that immediately spring to mind). Borucs great save in the first 5mins Davis would still be on the line.

[Julian H. Cope]

F*ck off you sheep c*nt.

 

I hid a poo in your Jag you fackin' Joseph.

[ALWAYS_SFC]

What are your opinions

 

As on and on on multiple threads you jut troll others

 

I post my opinion when i need to but you post yours on,seemingly every thread....

[Thedelldays]

I post my opinion when i need to but you post yours on,seemingly every thread....

 

An you seem to troll others on every thread. Guess that is ok though

[ALWAYS_SFC]

An you seem to troll others on every thread. Guess that is ok though

 

On every thread...don`t think so....but you....a constant whine...

 

I think you are just a glory hunter....only sing when we are winning sort...

[Thedelldays]

On every thread...don`t think so....but you....a constant whine...

 

There you go again

If you don't like it. Put me on ignore

 

Or just don't reply to me

 

I will go further to add, that what ever opinion anyone has on here does not make one blind bit of difference to the results. As long as you play by the rules on here. Not be aggressive, no abusive language or personal remarks. What does it matter....

 

Ok, how will it make a blind bit of difference if I suddenly think Adkins is doing a wonderful job and that he will DEFINITELY be a top top manager

 

Will that stop us being an embarrassment on the pitch? No

 

When I say embarrassment. I mean it.. Record number of goals let in at the quarter stage of a season for the last 20 years... And in that time, we have seen far fr worse teams do better than we are... Far worse squads do better than we are and far worse managers do better than Nigel currently is. And it isn't getting better. I would say, we are getting worse

Edited 29 October, 2012 by Thedelldays

[ALWAYS_SFC]

There you go again

If you don't like it. Put me on ignore

 

Or just don't reply to me

 

Very diffucult to ignore when your constant negative posting is everywhere...

Put you on ignore is pointless as your will be quoted by others...

[Thedelldays]

Very diffucult to ignore when your constant negative posting is everywhere...

Put you in ignore is pointless as your will be quoted by others...

 

If you put me on ignore. You will hardly see my posts

 

Go on. As it clearly annoys you enough to troll my posts

 

I wi get quoted by others but at least you will see far less of me

 

Go on, you know you want to

[Wes Tender]

Have to disagree on that, Gervinho's goal the other week and the one against Blackpool near end of last season sums up Davis coming out ability for me (two that immediately spring to mind). Borucs great save in the first 5mins Davis would still be on the line.

 

I can't remember the Blackpool goal, but remember the Gervinho one fairly clearly. My recollection of that, is that it is nothing like the Spurs' second goal, which was effectively a race to the ball between Defoe and Boruc. Boruc was slow off the mark and then hesitated for a split second, meaning that any advantage he might have had from decisiveness was lost. Davis often comes out for these 50/50 balls and is mostly first to smother the ball or clear it. When I am not at a home match with my ST and listening to away matches on Solent, Whispering Dave often comments on how good Davis is at it.

[Wes Tender]

This! Ok my view is based on Sky match choice highlights, but Fox was caught out of position and ball watchinng at least 4 times. Two of tose occassions led to their goals. The problem is that his poor defensive positioning pulls the rest of the defence across to cover for him, Yoshida with Defoe for their first a case in point. I'm quite sure that if we could solve the Lb problem we would be fine. Clyne, Fonte and Yoshi are perfectly Ok Imho. Watching the highlights we really did not look as bad as it seemed reading the remarks on here yesterday and listening to Whispering Dave. With Ramirez, Lee and Cork to come in we cohld be ok. Do we still have 1 space in the squad for a free agent?

 

I hope that Richardson regains fitness soon, as perhaps then we can use him on the right and switch Clyne to the left as a stopgap. It seemed to improve matters the last time we tried it at least.

 

 

I'm sure that rival managers if they've got any tactical nous, target that right wing as our achilles heel.

 

And when Fox goes up to take a corner kick on the right hand side, when he's the left back, what is that all about? Madness.

[Whitey Grandad]

I can't remember the Blackpool goal, but remember the Gervinho one fairly clearly. My recollection of that, is that it is nothing like the Spurs' second goal, which was effectively a race to the ball between Defoe and Boruc. Boruc was slow off the mark and then hesitated for a split second, meaning that any advantage he might have had from decisiveness was lost. Davis often comes out for these 50/50 balls and is mostly first to smother the ball or clear it. When I am not at a home match with my ST and listening to away matches on Solent, Whispering Dave often comments on how good Davis is at it.

Davis would have been beaten at his near post. Defoe was always going to get to that ball first.

[buctootim]

Im on holiday and didnt see or hear the game. That said i cant help thinking that if we had had a less difficult start with a few more points on the board most on here would have been quite pleased with a fighting comeback against a very good Spurs side and a narrow 2-1 loss.

[Lord Duckhunter]

The first goal was down to poor closing down and then down to Clyne ball watching and then getting caught back on his heels. Fox gets a lot of clog on here, yet Clyne has been directly responsible for a few goals this season and doesn't get half the stick Fox does. A Premier league full back should do more to stop that header, it was Bale not Andy Carroll or Ricky Lambert, he should have challanged a lot better, it was a soft goal.

 

Second one , again we didn't close people down. Boruc stood up strong but Defoe scuffed it by him. Last season Fonte would have stood up and cleared that, but his brain was scrambled. As Gary Neville said the other night, when things are rushing around you, you need to slow your thought process down. Jos had the same at Arsenal, they panic a touch and that leads to slips and slight miss hits.

 

Again, like West Ham I thought Davis and MS were good in the middle of the park, but lallana and Puncheon are not cutting it defensively. There was an instance when Mayuka chased back and won a tackle, this just does not happen with Punch an Lallana. I just can not see how we can continue to play Lallana & Puncheon as a wide midfielders and then expect our full backs to cope with Premiership pace down the flanks. 4-2-3-1 will work, but the 2 wide players in the 3 need to give the full backs some cover when we dont have the ball. Lallana and Puncheon just dont get back in position quickly enough. I would go with Lallana or GR in the hole behind SRL, with Mayuka, but the other flank then becomes a problem, which is maybe the reason Nigel plays JRod out there. For all the money we've spent on attacking players, we still have a lack of pace in wide positions.

[shurlock]

I'm amazed there are a few on this thread that didn't notice this. One guy suggests we only played 4-3-3 for a few minutes! I mean if supporters are going to games and can't even identify a formation, how on earth can you trust their judgement on anything else?

 

We start 4-4-2 to try and protect the fullbacks, it doesn't work because we make mistakes (ball-watching and not getting tight) and then can't get control of the ball in midfield so he gambles on taking charge of the midfield by shuffling Lallana inside and Rodriguez outside and it works a treat.

 

I'd like to add that this puts to bed once and for all the theory that Cortese has any sway when it comes to formation. All week we've had people on here informing us that Adkins HAS BEEN INSTRUCTED to play 4-3-3 rather than has dictated to the rest of the club that they must play the 4-3-3 that he has chosen.

 

No, not really. Am quite happy we play 4-3-3. But the formation's a red herring IMO. It had little to do with our change in fortunes. We created more pressure because we stretched them more with real pace and got more balls into the box. And we were very, very direct.

 

And Jrod still looks uncomfortable whenever he has to take a wide position.

Edited 29 October, 2012 by shurlock

[Wade Garrett]

Im on holiday and didnt see or hear the game. That said i cant help thinking that if we had had a less difficult start with a few more points on the board most on here would have been quite pleased with a fighting comeback against a very good Spurs side and a narrow 2-1 loss.

 

A knackered Spurs side who played in Slovenia on Thursday night. Let's not kid ourselves here.

[Wes Tender]

Davis would have been beaten at his near post. Defoe was always going to get to that ball first.

 

Davis would have beaten Defoe to it. The distance to it wasn't great and he would have been quick out of the blocks. Boruc nearly made it, but started out a bit late and then hesitated. There is no particular reason why Davis would therefore not have made it, imo. Besides, Defoe is only little and the sight of a big goallie charging towards him with intent would probably have unnerved him at least.

[The Kraken]

Davis would have beaten Defoe to it. The distance to it wasn't great and he would have been quick out of the blocks. Boruc nearly made it, but started out a bit late and then hesitated. There is no particular reason why Davis would therefore not have made it, imo. Besides, Defoe is only little and the sight of a big goallie charging towards him with intent would probably have unnerved him at least.

 

I think you need to watch it again. I just replayed it a few times and there's no way that any keeper would have got out to it. Boruc didn't hesitate; he came out and them set himself just before Defoe shot. Not much there that the keeper can be criticised for. Davis would have got nowhere near the ball if he'd have been in goal.

[kpturner]

I think you need to watch it again. I just replayed it a few times and there's no way that any keeper would have got out to it. Boruc didn't hesitate; he came out and them set himself just before Defoe shot. Not much there that the keeper can be criticised for. Davis would have got nowhere near the ball if he'd have been in goal.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, given the exchanges on the subject, I completely concur. Finding fault with Boruc for that goal is kinda strange. Whether or not Davis or Gazza would have done anything better or worse is pretty irrelevant.

[krissyboy31]

Was very disillusioned at half time not only did we look to be in a different league to Spurs, we looked to be on a different planet and quite honestly thought we were lucky not to be 4 or 5 down and expected a hat-full in the second. What a difference half time made, as if somebody had turned a switch on. We didn't deserve a point out of the game because of the way we were so absolutely outplayed in the first half but I felt much more positive at the end of the match and if we can play like that more often, we'll start picking some points up. Mayuka must start ahead of Puncheon though because he actually runs at people and gets them on the back foot, unlike Puncheon who goes round in circles and then loses the ball like a poorer version of Fabrice Fernandes.

[Chez]

I think Danny Fox is getting exploited because of the system and the speed of the premier league teams.

 

I play left back and feel sorry for him. You really need to be fast.

on occasions it's because of the system, certainly when its two vs one then it isn't his fault, but on many many other occasions he is as fault because he doesn't get tight enough. He does close down the winger, he hardly ever prevents the cross going in. He hardly ever tries to. The Defoe hitting the big screen chance is a case in point. He waltzes over to the wide man and make no effort whatsoever to stop the cross coming in.

 

He just knows he is slow so doesn't get tight because he afraid if being skinned by a quick winger. The trouble is he doesn't get tight when the winger has his back to goal either. He is lazy and casual as well as slow. Horrible combination for a fullback.

 

You are right, you really need to have pace to play there. If you don't have pace you have to get tight when you can. Reeves showed his how when he came on.

 

Sorry, but for all his (Fox) ability on the ball, and boy does he have a great first touch, he is just does not work hard enough and I said as much last season. Someone needs to give him a good kick up the arse. If he just pulled his finger out he could do a job for us, all be it a limited one.

Edited 29 October, 2012 by Chez

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

Hay I was one of those who thought we'd probably be humiliated again and that didn't really happen, so that must be 'something' right?

 

Wrong.

 

Show me a gallant loser and I'll show you a loser. It's not good enough to play well for 30 minutes when the game lasts for 90. Conceding 26 goals in just 9 games cannot be explained away with the tired old excuse that these are mere 'individual errors' that can be easily corrected - that stat shows you a team that is constitutionally incapable of defending its own goal.

 

I've just seem our manager on TV again restating how "confident" he still is about the future. Well I'll resist the temptation to tell him where to stick his confidence, and restrict myself to saying that I'm confident too. Confident that is that we are on course to end up with one the highest 'goals conceded' records the Premier League has ever seen.

 

That too is 'something' I suppose ....

[dubai_phil]

What an AWFUL trip.

 

1st half the crowd were resigned to another spanking, a couple of attempts to get behind the team but from everywhere seemed a resigned air and (let's face it) Boruc with his wobbles didn't help stop the groans

 

Some thoughts. 1st half we were abject, the only player seeming to find time and space to cross a ball in was Fox (Who I felt had an OK game). AL again kept getting caught out of position and ended up making lung bursting head back half the pace of Lennon runs to get back into position.

 

Thank God Defoe had an off day, he could have had 3 or 4 by half time.

 

Clyne - at least TRY and jump to put some pressure on. (Well done to Bale for not celebrating)

 

Hopefully we will never see Puncheon in a Saints shirt in the PL again.

 

Yes he runs around a lot, yes he is useful in his own half, but for some reason, once he passes the half way line his brain seems to slow down. Lost count of the number of times in recent games he held on to the ball too long or put in an abject pass or cross.

 

Once Mayuka came on we moved the ball so much more quickly.

 

JRod, yes we DO have a PL quality striker there. Still more to come but FINALLY in the 2nd half he looked the part.

 

Rickie. Yes his build up play was superb but he really does look slow - he seemed to take an age to set up for a shot - it was blocked, they came up field and scored.

 

We looked SO much better switching to 4-2-3-1 and at the end almost 4-1-1-4

 

Convinced that the problem is still the defence, Yoshida is a quality footballer, Fox had an OK game Saturday (just he ain't good enough to be 1st choice), Jose looks better alongside Yoshida, and Clyne showed us he is still young and learning the game.

 

Lallana HAS to play in the middle. His wanderings drop FB in the sh1t and he doesn't have the pace to get around his man, in the middle he is more invollved and his vision and passing.

 

Oh and we DO have a top Quality PL player in our team - Schneiderlein

 

Other than that, thank FOOK it warmed up after Saturday Night, and FMDP enjoyed the trip but was MEGA hacked off with the team & fans in the first half.

 

Oh and gonna be hard to see how Boruc will avoid at least a fine for his nonsense (BTW he ONLY hit the Steward with the dopey Afro hair)

[Julian H. Cope]

A knackered Spurs side who played in Slovenia on Thursday night. Let's not kid ourselves here.

 

Let's apply your logic to the game tonight. A knackered Saints side who played Premiership high flyers Spurs on Sunday. Joey.

[Thedelldays]

Let's apply your logic to the game tonight. A knackered Saints side who played Premiership high flyers Spurs on Sunday. Joey.

 

It's not logic is it. Travelling 250 miles r a game is a big different to going to Slovenia

[Julian H. Cope]

It's not logic is it. Travelling 250 miles r a game is a big different to going to Slovenia

 

Did they pedal there? You can't help yourself can you?

[Wade Garrett]

Let's apply your logic to the game tonight. A knackered Saints side who played Premiership high flyers Spurs on Sunday. Joey.

 

That's very true. The extra days rest plus no travelling, gives Leeds a distinct advantage. Just as it gave us an advantage on Sunday.

 

It's perfectly logical, my thick bro.

[Norm]

Posted on wrong thread, opps

[alpine_saint]

All the hard work from the second half undone last night by the squad selection.

[lordswoodsaints]

All the hard work from the second half undone last night by the squad selection.

 

Agree with this,regardless of it being a lesser cup Nigel had the opportunity to continue the momentum from the second half of the spurs game which could have instilled a bit of confidence carrying us into the WBA game.

[Norm]

On the other hand, was NA worried about one of the first team getting injured by 'dirty' Leeds?

 

Pal of mine who went, tells me that Leeds outclassed us and the lack of fight made him sick.

[Julian H. Cope]

That's very true. The extra days rest plus no travelling, gives Leeds a distinct advantage. Just as it gave us an advantage on Sunday.

 

It's perfectly logical, my thick bro.

 

I understand perfectly what you're trying to say. There was no advantage for us at all, Spurs are just better than us. Don't try & be a condescending c*nt like most others on here.

[Bearsy]

I understand perfectly what you're trying to say. There was no advantage for us at all, Spurs are just better than us. Don't try & be a condescending c*nt like most others on here.

 

Julian's just in a mood cos no-one's wished him happy birthday yet.

 

Happy Birthdays Julians!

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Edited 31 October, 2012 by Bearsy