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Well, until the move to St. Mary's, pretty much every season we nearly did go down. We were perennial relegation candidates at the Dell.

 

Probably easier to believe in the whole BBC bias against us though, I suppose.

 

Have you never noticed it takes them about 10mins to update the score when its our goal, and 30 seconds when its the opposition ?

 

You believe what you want, but the BBC has never had time for us. I still get angry when I think of the radio commentary of the 1979 League Cup Final. At 10 years old, it was the first time I had an inkling that the world isnt fair.

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Have you never noticed it takes them about 10mins to update the score when its our goal, and 30 seconds when its the opposition?

 

You believe what you want, but the BBC has never had time for us. I still get angry when I think of the radio commentary of the 1979 League Cup Final. At 10 years old, it was the first time I had an inkling that the world isnt fair.

 

Um, no. I haven't noticed this :uhoh:

 

To be honest I'm a little concerned with what I've kickstarted here, so I'm going to leave you to your anger and your conspiracy theories.

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In the home end as a Baggie supporting client is taking me.............................He has just told me that we have not won their since 1984!!..............................................Draw would not be terrible, but a win would be perfect. I really want us to turn it round, but am not confident. 2-2.

Must sit on my hands & keep my gob shut! Likely!!!!!!!!!!!!

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But we played differently in the CCC. How exposed these guys are in the PL is criminal, they just have no protection. I had a look at some highlights today, and the ease of which the oppositions front 3 run directly at our back 4 is frightening and it happens game after game.

 

When Nige was on about a ''change of tactics'' in pre-season, I assumed it was a more defensive themed tactic which continued to offer goal threat - but it seems to be the complete opposite, which is crazy. I too, don't believe our CB's would be as bad if they were given a bit of cover and protection, and I think we'd have more points. We'd probably have scored less goals, but I'd be pretty confident in saying that we'd have more points than we do.

 

Ok - They're not world beaters, they're pretty average defenders, and if you're average and are exposed to players like Bale and Cazorla then you are screwed. They need help from the rest of the team. Time for the club to swallow some pride on this failed tactical setup in my opinion.

 

Try it again when we're established and have players that can actually play it.

 

To be honest whatever formations we played in the Championship, this was our Achilles heel last season too. People kept harping on about how Morgan sat deep but on the occasions I saw us, he had almost as much license to get forward as the other midfielders. This meant we were susceptible to being caught on the break and the defence being left exposed. This was exaggerated by the fullbacks providing our width which often left only the two CBs left at the back.

 

I didn't feel this season would have started quite so badly as it has, I thought we might spring a surprise or two early on, but the one thing I believe I was right in, is that we needed someone like Tiote or Frimpong to offer bite in front of the back four. I think that this lack has made our defence look even worse than they are. I also think those individual errors have created a lack of confidence and inherent nervousness which is turning each game into a self fulfilling proficy.

 

We need a good defensive performance / clean sheet almost as much as a win.

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Hope our Sky curse doesnt ruin us again. We must still have one of the worst records in the UK for Sky appearances? There was some stat going round last season, and cant really have been improved this season so far!

 

Got a feeling Gazza will start if the club are annoyed with Boruc for telling the boo boys to shut up. Hope all's good with Boruc as reckon he'll be great once settled, but like Gazza too, who hopefully wont turn out like Bart as second choice for eternity.

 

If Ramirez and Lambert start, we'll win (hopefully)!

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And the wide midfielders are not helping by not defending properly. That's what comes with thinking players can play 'off the cuff' like Lallana.

 

derry, that's not my point. If the defenders didn't keep getting tight to the centre-backs the midfielders wouldn't have to defend a massive area of the pitch. Thing is, it happens all the time, so I reckon that's how they're drilled to play.

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-------------Davis--------------

 

 

Clyne Fonte Yoshida Fox

 

 

 

Davis Morgan Lallana

 

 

Ramirez

 

 

Lambert JRod

 

 

Boruc wont play imo due to ongoing investigation into his conduct.

 

Cork is not match fit and no other quality options so Lallana in more orthodoxed CM role.

 

Ramirez to play in the hole and be main source of creativity. Hopefully using JRod's decent pace to good effect.

 

Should it go t1ts up (likely) then drop JRod into deeper role and have him and Ramirez rotating sides.

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This will be an entertaining open game. We will score, the return of Ramirez will see to that and I would expect Lambert to start up front.

 

Now, can we avoid leaking in our usual manner?

 

2-2.

 

My team:

 

--------------- Lambert --------------

 

Lallana -------- Ramirez ------- Mayuka

 

 

------- Davis ------ Schneiderlin ------

 

Fox ----- Yoshida ---- Fonte ---- Clyne

 

---------------- Boruc ---------------

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Be interesting to see what happens in goal.

 

Saints said they were taking the Boruc incident very seriously, rumours of Gazza going out on loan and not been in the squad for a few weeks, and Davis not being good enough..

Boruc incident was cleared up last week by SFC on Monday, stated categorically that there was no case for Boruc to answer.

Gazza loan was a made up rumour which seemed to eminate on this board

IMHO Boruc will play and Davis will be on the bench, and thus someone will probably start another rumour about Gazza.

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Boruc incident was cleared up last week by SFC on Monday, stated categorically that there was no case for Boruc to answer.

Gazza loan was a made up rumour which seemed to eminate on this board

IMHO Boruc will play and Davis will be on the bench, and thus someone will probably start another rumour about Gazza.

 

So why did Nige refuse to answer any questions about him, in the press conference. He stated more than once that "an internal inquiry was ongoing."

 

Pity the press didnt come round to your place to hear the facts. :rolleyes:

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Have you never noticed it takes them about 10mins to update the score when its our goal, and 30 seconds when its the opposition ?

 

You believe what you want, but the BBC has never had time for us. I still get angry when I think of the radio commentary of the 1979 League Cup Final. At 10 years old, it was the first time I had an inkling that the world isnt fair.

 

Actually, I have this theory that the BBC deliberately influences the course of matches through negative comments and under-reporting of our goals. It could go some way to explaining our poor start to the season.

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Actually, I have this theory that the BBC deliberately influences the course of matches through negative comments and under-reporting of our goals. It could go some way to explaining our poor start to the season.

 

Mock all you want, but even Lawrenson's recent "There's no way hes going to Southampton" sneer about Gaston goes a long way to show his (after all, we were originally talking about him) and Auntie's attitude toward us.

 

I mean, Jesus, I've seen it, he even interrupted the presenter to slap that one down before the presenter had even finished his sentence, so sure was he of the outcome.

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derry, that's not my point. If the defenders didn't keep getting tight to the centre-backs the midfielders wouldn't have to defend a massive area of the pitch. Thing is, it happens all the time, so I reckon that's how their drilled to play.

 

It's the attacking full back or midfielder drifting wide that our midfielders have to pick up. One of the problems is that the back four doesn't rotate properly and move across as a unit. If it did it would push the full back tight, but would give depth to the defence. On the other side a midfielder should drop back covering outside/in front of the other full back whilst the central midfielders cover in front of the central defenders.

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Mock all you want, but even Lawrenson's recent "There's no way hes going to Southampton" sneer about Gaston goes a long way to show his (after all, we were originally talking about him) and Auntie's attitude toward us.

 

I mean, Jesus, I've seen it, he even interrupted the presenter to slap that one down before the presenter had even finished his sentence, so sure was he of the outcome.

 

Why would Lawernson or the Beeb give a **** about Saints? Perhaps he was just giving an honest opinion, after all, signing a player of Ramirez' reputation was a bit of coup, so it was a reasonable opinion to hold.

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I am sure you dont understand.

 

She is standing up for us in the national media, and against that perennial Saints-hater, Mark Lawrenson. I also have no indication that she is a tedious head-in-the-sand happy clapper like those on this site, since to the best of my knowledge she doesnt post. She also is quite cute, has nice norks, and the sort of thighs that will squeeze every last sperm out of your body.

 

I vaguely know her because she lives in my village and do know quite a few of her friends. Never heard her mention football before so to be honest I doubt she has a clue. Although probably no less of a clue than a lot of people on here to be fair.

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Mock all you want, but even Lawrenson's recent "There's no way hes going to Southampton" sneer about Gaston goes a long way to show his (after all, we were originally talking about him) and Auntie's attitude toward us.

 

I mean, Jesus, I've seen it, he even interrupted the presenter to slap that one down before the presenter had even finished his sentence, so sure was he of the outcome.

 

I think this is more to do with Lawrenson being a boring, clueless ****.

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The fact that Saints came out and said that after studying the video evidence there was no case to answer last week seems to have been missed by some.

 

On Friday Adkins said it was being dealt with and he would not be commenting further on it. Nothing about it being concluded.

 

Do enlighten us if something has changed since then.

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Just my prediction you Moong Bean. FFS what is it with no mark fans abusing other on here these days?

 

Maybe if some "fans" didn't continually come out with absolute horse ****e, the abuse wouldn't be necessary.

 

I can only conclude that your brain has frozen over in Ukraine. Maybe you should stick to watching old hacks like Andriy Dyshlenkovych horse carting around a frozen pitch.

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It's the attacking full back or midfielder drifting wide that our midfielders have to pick up. One of the problems is that the back four doesn't rotate properly and move across as a unit. If it did it would push the full back tight, but would give depth to the defence. On the other side a midfielder should drop back covering outside/in front of the other full back whilst the central midfielders cover in front of the central defenders.

 

I think you might have to go through this with with a few salt and pepper pots!

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Maybe if some "fans" didn't continually come out with absolute horse ****e, the abuse wouldn't be necessary.

 

I can only conclude that your brain has frozen over in Ukraine. Maybe you should stick to watching old hacks like Andriy Dyshlenkovych horse carting around a frozen pitch.

 

More insults....like the t@sser you are! What is wrong with what I said? Only expressing an opinion which is what this board is for. When I look at the man in the glass I am content. Wonder what you see, you muggy moong bean?

 

And btw its Seaborne not Seabourne...not so much the super fan now you ***t.

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More insults....like the t@sser you are! What is wrong with what I said? Only expressing an opinion which is what this board is for. When I look at the man in the glass I am content. Wonder what you see, you muggy moong bean?

 

And btw its Seaborne not Seabourne...not so much the super fan now you ***t.

 

I remember the halcyon days of this forum when you could abuse someone without recieving such aggressiveness back. Shame on you.

 

I actually think that in certain situations, Chappers may provide the bite that we need. What do you think?

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