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Happy to be reading a positive thread, Adkins deserves AT LEAST this season and the beginning of next to turn this around. Back to back promotions FFS.

 

Sacking managers too early is moronic and what's sad is that almost everyone has caught the 'knee-jerk' disease.

 

That's the "I need everything RIGHT NOW in app form on my new iphone 5" generation for ya.

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Just what this forum needed - yet another woolly headed thread promoting the idea that the power of positive thinking and "keeping the faith" can somehow magically transform a failing team into a successful one. What next I wonder - perhaps if we all tattoo 'Guly is Great' on our foreheads and give Nigel Adkins a twenty year contract we'll beat Spurs 5-0 tomorrow?

 

I'm not at all interested anymore how relentlessly positive the manager always is, and tales of how well this week's training has gone inspire me not. The only thing that matters in football is what happens on the pitch - all the rest is just more bullsh1t on the pile.

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Just what this forum needed - yet another woolly headed thread promoting the idea that the power of positive thinking and "keeping the faith" can somehow magically transform a failing team into a successful one. What next I wonder - perhaps if we all tattoo 'Guly is Great' on our foreheads and give Nigel Adkins a twenty year contract we'll beat Spurs 5-0 tomorrow?

 

I'm not at all interested anymore how relentlessly positive the manager always is, and tales of how well this week's training has gone inspire me not. The only thing that matters in football is what happens on the pitch - all the rest is just more bullsh1t on the pile.

 

Careful, you'll be accused of being a bedwetter, or part of the 'iphone 5 generation' who obviously has no recollection of our history.

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Just what this forum needed - yet another woolly headed thread promoting the idea that the power of positive thinking and "keeping the faith" can somehow magically transform a failing team into a successful one. What next I wonder - perhaps if we all tattoo 'Guly is Great' on our foreheads and give Nigel Adkins a twenty year contract we'll beat Spurs 5-0 tomorrow?

 

I'm not at all interested anymore how relentlessly positive the manager always is, and tales of how well this week's training has gone inspire me not. The only thing that matters in football is what happens on the pitch - all the rest is just more bullsh1t on the pile.

 

Zzzzz. Not at all nterested? Don't post then.

 

The OP did not say this

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If no one else could do better, what do you think the problem is?

 

Surely it is really obvious to everyone what the issue is? Our defending is simply not good enough. We only got out of the Championship because our often poor defending last season was masked by our ability to score lots of goals. That ability is still there even with the big boys. We have shown that by scoring twice each against Man U and Man C. But you can't get away with the level of defense we have in this league. So for what it's worth I reckon Nigel Adkins should remain manager as he has got us where we are and clearly gets the 'how to play good football and score' thing but for goodness sake get someone in who understands top class defending. We just need to survive this season and build again.

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Surely it is really obvious to everyone what the issue is? Our defending is simply not good enough. We only got out of the Championship because our often poor defending last season was masked by our ability to score lots of goals. That ability is still there even with the big boys. We have shown that by scoring twice each against Man U and Man C. But you can't get away with the level of defense we have in this league. So for what it's worth I reckon Nigel Adkins should remain manager as he has got us where we are and clearly gets the 'how to play good football and score' thing but for goodness sake get someone in who understands top class defending. We just need to survive this season and build again.

 

NO , NO , NO !

 

Have you not been paying attention - our problems have nothing to do with dismal defending, a bodged summer transfer window and some truly bizarre selection/substitution decisions. It's to do with a insufficient degree of positivity and enthusiasm on here. Years of experience has shown us that nearly everything that goes wrong at this club is the fans fault ......

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NO , NO , NO !

 

Have you not been paying attention - our problems have nothing to do with dismal defending, a bodged summer transfer window and some truly bizarre selection/substitution decisions. It's to do with a insufficient degree of positivity and enthusiasm on here. Years of experience has shown us that nearly everything that goes wrong at this club is the fans fault ......

 

As has been shown by your negativity over the last 5 years it is obviously your fault but you are refusing to accept it thats like Pompey refusing to accept they are responsible for 150 mill debts that they are not going to pay.

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I don't think there is a massive Nigel out group saying that "he might get the sack" isn't the same as saying you "want him to get the sack". Most saints fans are supportive of Nigel but I think a lot realise the nature of modern football is such that 4 points from 24 is the sort of form that gets managers sacked. I'm sure 99% of us want Nigel to turn it round and stay as our manager but all the positive thoughts in the world don't change the fact that Nigels fate isn't down to the fans it's down to the chairman.

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Just what this forum needed - yet another woolly headed thread promoting the idea that the power of positive thinking and "keeping the faith" can somehow magically transform a failing team into a successful one. What next I wonder - perhaps if we all tattoo 'Guly is Great' on our foreheads and give Nigel Adkins a twenty year contract we'll beat Spurs 5-0 tomorrow?

 

I'm not at all interested anymore how relentlessly positive the manager always is, and tales of how well this week's training has gone inspire me not. The only thing that matters in football is what happens on the pitch - all the rest is just more bullsh1t on the pile.

 

So don't read the post.

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NO , NO , NO !

 

Have you not been paying attention - our problems have nothing to do with dismal defending, a bodged summer transfer window and some truly bizarre selection/substitution decisions. It's to do with a insufficient degree of positivity and enthusiasm on here. Years of experience has shown us that nearly everything that goes wrong at this club is the fans fault ......

 

Ha ha thanks for the tip. As you can see I am a very new poster. Why can't people see that sarcasm is quite acceptable in British society. Long live Basil Fawlty! 2-2 tomorrow? I would prefer 1-0. Oh for a clean sheet. That's for Saints not me personally.....

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NO , NO , NO !

 

Have you not been paying attention - our problems have nothing to do with dismal defending, a bodged summer transfer window and some truly bizarre selection/substitution decisions. It's to do with a insufficient degree of positivity and enthusiasm on here. Years of experience has shown us that nearly everything that goes wrong at this club is the fans fault ......

 

It's nothing more complicated than confidence. We've proved against the Manchester teams that we can hold our own against the best I this league. Schoolboy errors are costing us time and time again. It's not an easy thing to get over because it is more physiological than physical. You need an international break, a few good days on the training ground and a few lucky reassign your next game. It an turn around quite quickly. Changing the manger may have he short term benefit but then you have the longer term problems of rebuilding o their preferred style of play. That can take 2 or3 years.

 

In answer to the original op, vocal backing will inevitably have a positive impact on the pitch.

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NO , NO , NO !

 

Have you not been paying attention - our problems have nothing to do with dismal defending, a bodged summer transfer window and some truly bizarre selection/substitution decisions. It's to do with a insufficient degree of positivity and enthusiasm on here. Years of experience has shown us that nearly everything that goes wrong at this club is the fans fault ......

 

NO , NO , NO !

 

Have you not been paying attention this form of sarcastic posting where you state something that you claim is the percieved wisdom of the masses less intelligent than you, where the reality is no one is saying that at all, is sooo last summer. Turkish and his fans have done it to death. Please find a more original style of posting.

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Happy to be reading a positive thread, Adkins deserves AT LEAST this season and the beginning of next to turn this around. Back to back promotions FFS.

 

Sacking managers too early is moronic and what's sad is that almost everyone has caught the 'knee-jerk' disease.

 

wrong!! Adkins deserves to be the manager for as long as he's doing his job properly. When he isn't doing his job properly, he doesn't deserve to have the job. Simple

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I don't think there is a massive Nigel out group saying that "he might get the sack" isn't the same as saying you "want him to get the sack". Most saints fans are supportive of Nigel but I think a lot realise the nature of modern football is such that 4 points from 24 is the sort of form that gets managers sacked. I'm sure 99% of us want Nigel to turn it round and stay as our manager but all the positive thoughts in the world don't change the fact that Nigels fate isn't down to the fans it's down to the chairman.

 

^^ This. Football is a results business, and a managers sole responsibility is to win football matches/get results. Adkins isn't doing that. Managers have been sacked for better starts to the season than we've had

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^^ This. Football is a results business, and a managers sole responsibility is to win football matches/get results. Adkins isn't doing that. Managers have been sacked for better starts to the season than we've had

 

Because managers have been sacked for worse starts than ours does not make them right. Give the guy a fair chance. 8 games in we should not even be talking about sacking a manager. He obviously has been good for us so give him some help. Maybe bring in someone with some top quality defensive coaching abilities whatever the cost. It would be a lot cheaper to coach what we have with a very expensive person who knows what he is doing than changing everything when we all know the problem is at the back. Would Man U have ever been so successful if they had sacked Fergie when their results were so bad all those years ago? Who knows. But I am not of the 'sack the manager as soon as things look a bit ropey' brigade. You build top clubs with continuity and thinking long term. We have tried quick fixes before. When were we most successful? When we had managers who we stuck with until clear something had to change. We are nowhere even remotely near that point yet. Even if we went back down. Of course I reserve the right to be completely wrong!

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Di Matteo - found wanting at WBA when promoted and sacked promptly, subsequently went on to win Champions League and now top of table. Clearly couldnt make the step up eh!

 

It's a reasonable point, but not an entirely accurate one. There is a difference between improving a sub-standard team (WBA) and applying one's knowledge to a squad of hugely expensive top players. I have no doubt whatsoever that Adkins would do an excellent job at one of the top four sides with the budgets available there. His job here is somewhat different and in some respects much more difficult I would argue.

 

It is highly debatable whether there is another Manager available that could do a better job with the players at Adkins disposal right now, therefore the best we as supporters can do is give our utmost support to whichever Manager leads the team out each game.

 

Having said that, we all know that results count and football as a business involves money. The Chairman will no doubt be pondering the balance between risking Adkins and his team getting it right soon, or pulling the plug and giving someone else the chance, to ensure the pot of gold is secured for this season which in turn will allow the club to grow more in accordance with Markus' wishes.

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Thing is, if we go down...We're gonna want someone with promotion experience to get us back up...That's Nigel. Keep him. He's barely put afoot wrong since he's been here.

 

You really are living up to your user name because this post is another classic, in a thread that already has more than its fair share.

 

So if you were in charge then instead of suspending and prosecuting the Captain of the Costa Concordia for gross incompetence, you'd give him another ship on the grounds that running the last one around and killing some of his passengers was a valuable learning experience?

 

Do you work for the civil service by any chance?

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Good point mate, it's clearly all my fault that highly paid professional footballers can't learn to defend their goal.

 

Chapel End Charlie: A global force for evil in a ever changing world.

 

So what you're saying is that if someone were to take out a contract on you, Saints will start winning loads of games? I think that sounds eminently reasonable.

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You really are living up to your user name because this post is another classic, in a thread that already has more than its fair share.

 

So if you were in charge then instead of suspending and prosecuting the Captain of the Costa Concordia for gross incompetence, you'd give him another ship on the grounds that running the last one around and killing some of his passengers was a valuable learning experience?

 

Do you work for the civil service by any chance?

Instant classic didn't say that relegation from the premier league was ground to let him steer us to promotion again. It's the promotion experience that is relevant.

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Just what this forum needed - yet another woolly headed thread promoting the idea that the power of positive thinking and "keeping the faith" can somehow magically transform a failing team into a successful one. What next I wonder - perhaps if we all tattoo 'Guly is Great' on our foreheads and give Nigel Adkins a twenty year contract we'll beat Spurs 5-0 tomorrow?

 

I'm not at all interested anymore how relentlessly positive the manager always is, and tales of how well this week's training has gone inspire me not. The only thing that matters in football is what happens on the pitch - all the rest is just more bullsh1t on the pile.

 

Yep.

 

For every allegedly "doom and gloom" thread on this site in recent times, there has been an even more inane "happy clappy" postivity thread like this one, that spectacularly fails to address the shortcomings of the team and management, and thinks cheering and singing and not questioning even a tiny aspect of the decision making and player performance will somehow transform us into Champions League material

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Yep.

 

For every allegedly "doom and gloom" thread on this site in recent times, there has been an even more inane "happy clappy" postivity thread like this one, that spectacularly fails to address the shortcomings of the team and management, and thinks cheering and singing and not questioning even a tiny aspect of the decision making and player performance will somehow transform us into Champions League material

 

Oh dear oh dear, another one who puts words in the mouth of the OP that were not there. BTW chapel end is "not interested at all" in this thread but seems to shown otherwise

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Oh dear oh dear, another one who puts words in the mouth of the OP that were not there. BTW chapel end is "not interested at all" in this thread but seems to shown otherwise

 

Are you intellectually challenged ?

 

When I wrote 'another woolly headed thread' the word 'another' was a clue that I was commenting on a recent multi-thread trend that this forum has become subject to, rather than replying to this one particular example of that phenomena only. Now the concept that someone can be capable of expressing a general point on here, rather than restricting themselves to addressing a narrow one, is obviously far too complex a idea for you to get your little head around, but it is nevertheless true.

 

Now something I'm genuinely 'not interested at all' in doing is wasting my time by arguing with simpletons. So I suggest you go away and play elsewhere if you want to avoid making a even bigger fool of yourself.

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It is clear that the vast majority of fans still want Adkins, myself included, so can one of the opening songs today be about him/our support for him?

 

Only when we were 3-1 up against Villa has this been done (highlighting most fans' fickleness), doing it early on against Spurs shows irrespective of the result at that point, we are behind him.

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Are you intellectually challenged ?

 

When I wrote 'another woolly headed thread' the word 'another' was a clue that I was commenting on a recent multi-thread trend that this forum has become subject to, rather than replying to this one particular example of that phenomena only. Now the concept that someone can be capable of expressing a general point on here, rather than restricting themselves to addressing a narrow one, is obviously far too complex a idea for you to get your little head around, but it is nevertheless true.

 

Now something I'm genuinely 'not interested at all' in doing is wasting my time by arguing with simpletons. So I suggest you go away and play elsewhere if you want to avoid making a even bigger fool of yourself.

 

Again, you have done the job of looking like a fool all by yourself, but you have managed to throw in some moronic insults along the way. Classy.

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Ummm...

 

As a argument this doesn't make all that much sense, but don't let that stop you!

It doesn't make all that much sense to put a promotion winning manager in charge of winning promotion?

 

I'm not sure what your definition of sense is. That's not to say i'd endorse the plan. Best case scenario we'd be looking at potentially sacking him before the transfer window closed if we did go up. I'm peronally unsure he'd be able to pull it off again without a team that was full of beans and riding their momentum anyway.

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It doesn't make all that much sense to put a promotion winning manager in charge of winning promotion?

 

I'm not sure what your definition of sense is. That's not to say i'd endorse the plan. Best case scenario we'd be looking at potentially sacking him before the transfer window closed if we did go up. I'm peronally unsure he'd be able to pull it off again without a team that was full of beans and riding their momentum anyway.

 

Might not one reasonable definition of 'sense' be that those who fail should be made to answer for it, rather than be rewarded?

 

If you follow through with the logic of this daft 'Keep Adkins Regardless' argument, then if we were to retain him next season in the Championship because of his previously successful record in that division, then we would also presumably have to sack him once he got us re-promoted because of him (in this as yet theoretical scenario) being a proven failure in the Premier League. Blackburn and Bolton attempted what we might call the Tammy Wynette 'Stand by your Man' policy this season - unsuccessfully.

 

In reality I'm pretty sure his job here won't survive relegation, and I seriously doubt the Chairman sees this great club becoming a 'yo-yo' outfit as an acceptable outcome. We don't require a manager who can get us promoted - we require a manager who can get us promoted and keep us there. The second part of that sentence being the really difficult part unfortunately.

 

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PS - the Buckinghamshire irritant should know that there is no more pathetic sight on here than someone how loves to dole out criticism of other peoples views, but then cries like a spoiled child when they receive some (well deserved) return fire. If you really want to continue this then spare others the tedium of reading your brand of nonsense and continue via the PM system - where I'll be more than happy to deal with you.

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PS - the Buckinghamshire irritant should know that there is no more pathetic sight on here than someone how loves to dole out criticism of other peoples views, but then cries like a spoiled child when they receive some (well deserved) return fire. If you really want to continue this then spare others the tedium of reading your brand of nonsense and continue via the PM system - where I'll be more than happy to deal with you.

 

happy to do so if you can let me know when you grow up and stop with your childish insults. Thanks

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