Team for Tottenham, your thoughts?

[Turkish]

And you would know that how ?. And unless you are Jose Mourinho or some master tactician do not state FACT to me

 

It is 100% FACT if we played with wing backs and 3 centre halves against Bale and Lennon we would get spanked. I'm not a master tactican, I'm just not completely clueless.

 

Bale and Lennon would be in behind the full backs all the time, your genius idea of 3 centre backs sweeping would just leave huge holes the middle for Defoe to use his pace to exploit.

 

Your logic was brilliant by the way on how to defend against winger. they'Re going to get space wide anyway so let's play wing backs push on and give them even more space. I guess you aren't Mourinho either. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't give

One of the worlds best left midfielders even more space to play in because hes going to have some anyway.

Edited 26 October, 2012 by Turkish

[Ed Rooney]

It is 100% FACT if we played with Wong backs and 3 centre halves against Bale and Lennon we would get spanked. I'm not a master tactican, I'm just not completely clueless.

 

Your logic was brilliant by the way, they'Re going to get space wide anyway so let's play wing backs push on and give them even more space. I guess you aren't Mourinho either.

 

Not 100% FACT as not proved, you do not know we would get spanked and Bale and Lennon will get lots of room anyway, due to the way Tottenham play and that was not my logic for the formation dip ****. We need to give teams something to think about, and not always play with fear about what the other players and teams can do. No I am not Mourinho but you have no idea at what standard of football I have played and under what coaches I have played, so completely clueless....You are way off the mark

[Turkish]

Not 100% FACT as not proved, you do not know we would get spanked and Bale and Lennon will get lots of room anyway, due to the way Tottenham play and that was not my logic for the formation dip ****. We need to give teams something to think about, and not always play with fear about what the other players and teams can do. No I am not Mourinho but you have no idea at what standard of football I have played and under what coaches I have played, so completely clueless....You are way off the mark

 

Why have you resorted to name calling?

 

There is playing with our fear and being stupid. Giving a player alike Bale as much space as possible to play in is the latter rather than the former. We can give Spurs plenty to think about without practially givng Bale an invitation to take the p*ss. Apart from that why do you think a tough game against a top team in the ideal time to experiment with 3 centre halves something we havent played in years? I take it you didn't learn very much at whatever level of football you played at under whatever coaches it might have been.

Edited 26 October, 2012 by Turkish

[Ed Rooney]

Why have you resorted to name calling?

 

There is playing with our fear and being stupid. Giving a player alike Bale as much space as possible to play in is the latter rather than the former. We can give Spurs plenty to think about without practially givng Bale an invitation to take the p*ss. Apart from that why do you think a tough game against a top team in the ideal time to experiment with 3 centre halves something we havent played in years? I take it you didn't learn very much at whatever level of football you played at under whatever coaches it might have been.

 

I believe you started that with the completely clueless remark !

 

Football is all about opinions and please do not insult mine, I learned enough...put it that way. I think we just carry on as we are and get destroyed by teams that do not have quality wingers and get absolutely hammered by teams that do.

 

Its not like anyone uses 3-5-2 to utilise attacking threats, I mean Italy have never used it to stop teams with strong central midfield and wide men. Formations and anything tactical within football is relative. You play formations to your strengths, our full backs cannot defend and do get forward so having 3 central defenders and a very deep holding midfield player is better coverage than we currently have when our full backs get caught forward.

 

I have my thoughts, you have your thoughts. There is no right or wrong unless results prove so... Currently results prove that something is wrong and needs changing. I agree that maybe against a top team isnt the time.. But when is ?

[Chez]

Boruc

 

Clyne

Fonte

Jos

Fox

 

JWP

Morgan

Davis

 

Puncheon

Lallana

 

Lambert

[kpturner]

Boruc

Clyne Fonte Yashida Fox

Schneiderlin

Chaplow Davis Llanna

Mayuka

Lambert

 

Chaplow to mark Bale head on.

Jay too much of a gamble in this big match.

Mayuka with pace, hungry, around Lambert, we need to win.

This would be my starting line up.

Options to bring on, Punch, Rodrigues, Guly.

Wish Billy Sharp was an option, think we made big mistake there.

 

Your thoughts please?[/QUOtE]I don't recognise some of those names

[Turkish]

I'll tell you why your opinion is wrong. It's becaus if we set up 3-5-2 it would take Spurs about 20 seconds to realise that a diagonal ball in between the full back and the centre half would give Bale a one on one run against a centre half he can beat easily for pace. The defender would track sideway 30 yards and leave a huge gap between him and the central centre half which would be filled by Defoe, Dempsey or Sigruadeson who will be now outnumbering or at Least match our back 5 and defensive CM 3 on 3.

 

Also of you want to play 3 central defenders you need a least one vocal dominant one to organise he other two. Without it you inversely get one sucked in towards the bal or dropping two deep and playing everyone onside. We don't have a dominant centre half.

 

3-5-2 works when your pressing high against a team who don't have pace outwide. Something Spurs have in ubundanxe. So that's why you are wrong. If you want to discuss further I'm happy to do it over a pint and don't forget to bring your UEFA coaching badges. I'll bring mine.

[Turkish]

I'll tell you why your opinion is wrong. It's becaus if we set up 3-5-2 it would take Spurs about 20 seconds to realise that a diagonal ball in between the full back and the centre half would give Bale a one on one run behind the full back, into space against a centre half he can beat easily for pacethat is coming at him from a side on angle. The defender would track sideway 30 yards and leave a huge gap between him and the central centre half which would be filled by Defoe, Dempsey or Sigruadeson who will be now outnumbering or at Least match our back 5 and defensive CM 3 on 3. No way will fox or whomever is playing left back be able to track back in time to be effective against a break on the opposite side of the pitch.

 

Also of you want to play 3 central defenders you need a least one vocal dominant one to organise he other two. Without it you inversely get one sucked in towards the bal or dropping two deep and playing everyone onside. We don't have a dominant centre half.

 

3-5-2 works when your pressing high against a team who don't have pace outwide. Something Spurs have in ubundanxe. So that's why you are wrong. If you want to discuss further I'm happy to do it over a pint and don't forget to bring your UEFA coaching badges. I'll bring mine.

Edited 26 October, 2012 by Turkish

[Jonnyboy]

Yeah b1tch!!!

[Ed Rooney]

I'll tell you why your opinion is wrong. It's becaus if we set up 3-5-2 it would take Spurs about 20 seconds to realise that a diagonal ball in between the full back and the centre half would give Bale a one on one run against a centre half he can beat easily for pace. The defender would track sideway 30 yards and leave a huge gap between him and the central centre half which would be filled by Defoe, Dempsey or Sigruadeson who will be now outnumbering or at Least match our back 5 and defensive CM 3 on 3.

 

Also of you want to play 3 central defenders you need a least one vocal dominant one to organise he other two. Without it you inversely get one sucked in towards the bal or dropping two deep and playing everyone onside. We don't have a dominant centre half.

 

3-5-2 works when your pressing high against a team who don't have pace outwide. Something Spurs have in ubundanxe. So that's why you are wrong. If you want to discuss further I'm happy to do it over a pint and don't forget to bring your UEFA coaching badges. I'll bring mine.

 

Sorry you must be right because you said so, I tend to meet people for a drink who actually have experience of playing the game and not just quote something they have read from a textbook or google. Get you with your UEFA coaching badges. One thing you have not said by using your vast wisdom and experience is what you would do, or does that involve thinking without typing in 3 5 2 on google

[Turkish]

Sorry you must be right because you said so, I tend to meet people for a drink who actually have experience of playing the game and not just quote something they have read from a textbook or google. Get you with your UEFA coaching badges. One thing you have not said by using your vast wisdom and experience is what you would do, or does that involve thinking without typing in 3 5 2 on google

 

Yeah course I did that.

 

If it was me I'd go 4-4-2. I'm not a fan of it as I think it's a bit dated but Spurs biggest threat comes from the flanks so I'd shut those off by doubling up on Bale and Lennon wide. This would mean AL would have a defensively responsibility as hed need to support Fox. Id play a relatively deep defensive shape reducing the space behind the defence foe their pace to get in behind. I'd have MS playing in the defensive midfield role picking up Dempsey and/or Sigurdsons runs and Davis being busy trying to close down the ball out to the wings at source, making Spurs play a short passing game rather than being able to get diagonal balls in behind the full backs, which they will try.

 

Going forward I'd go with RL and JR. I'm not convinced by Spurs defence and think that like us they don't have a dominant centre half of RL can get some joy from quality balls played into the back post where he can attack it. The onus would then be on AL and JP to get forward to support as well as JR to be mobile, busy and create space for RL as well as make runs to pick the ball from him.

 

We need to be a bit more aggressive and direct against Spurs and get the ball forward quickly, I don't mean long ball but not tippy tippy stuff as they have very good forward players who could take us apart, but if we can get at them and get it forward quickly we can put them under pressure and given them something to think about.

 

It may not be the key to winning but it's a lot more realistic than just giving Bale more space to play in because he'll have loads anyway.

 

Oh didn't mention I'd played the game or what level at did I.......

Edited 26 October, 2012 by Turkish

[Ed Rooney]

Yeah course I did that.

 

If it was me I'd go 4-4-2. I'm not a fan of it as I think it's a bit dated but Spurs biggest threat comes from the flanks so I'd shut those off by doubling up on Bale and Lennon wide. This would mean AL would have a defensively responsibility as hed need to support Fox. I'd have MS playing in the defensive midfield role picking up Dempsey and/or Sigurdsons runs and Davis being busy trying to close down the ball out to the wings at source, making Spurs play a short passing game rather than being able to get diagonal balls in behind the full backs, which they will try.

 

Going forward I'd go with RL and JR. I'm not convinced by Spurs defence and think that like us they don't have a dominant centre half of RL can get some joy from quality balls played into the back post where he can attack it. The onus would then be on AL and JP to get forward to support as well as JR to be mobile, busy and create space for RL as well as make runs to pick the ball from him.

 

We need to be a bit more aggressive and direct against Spurs and get the ball forward quickly, I don't mean long ball but not tippy tippy stuff as they have very good forward players who could take us apart, but if we can get at them and get it forward quickly we can put them under pressure and given them something to think about.

 

It may not be the key to winning but it's a lot more realistic than just giving Bale more space to play in because he'll have loads anyway.

 

Oh didn't mention I'd played the game or what level at did I.......

 

No, you mentioned it just about as much as I mentioned UEFA coaching badges, I am kinda bored now and your 4 4 2 opinion is your opinion and you are entitled to it, it has emphasis on AL and JP defensive capabilities which I personally do not think they have. Just to clarify I do not believe Bale would get anymore space by saints playing the way I would like to see saints to set up with than he would get by saints playing how they have been playing. If you have interpreted comments I have stated to mean bale is gonna get space so I think we should give him more then there has been a breakdown there.

 

Each to their own which is why football is such a worldwide game and managers can tactically beat others as they do have different ideas on what may work and what may not.

[Turkish]

Which is why we double up on their wide men. We don't have players or equal ability to mark and track them.

 

Anyway. If you were manager of Saints and I was manger of spurs and I'd saw you lined up 3-5-2 against me I'd resign if we failed to win comfortably.

[Thedelldays]

Wigan are the only team to play 352 really

 

Man city do now and then, but they are rubbish at it

[Ed Rooney]

Which is why we double up on their wide men. We don't have players or equal ability to mark and track them.

 

Anyway. If you were manager of Saints and I was manger of spurs and I'd saw you lined up 3-5-2 against me I'd resign if we failed to win comfortably.

 

Would you take your ball with ya

[Turkish]

Would you take your ball with ya

 

Such a shame. And wasn't it you that brought up who you'd play with and been coached under. Want to share it and justify your instance on it with reasons and explanations other than giving bale more space to play in because he have some anyway? In sure you can quickly google 'reasons to play 3-5-2'

Edited 26 October, 2012 by Turkish

[david in sweden]

If we have history on our side then we'll get all three points.

Spurs have had a terrible record at SMS, including a double defeat in 2002-3 and that incredible (4-0 win) FA Cup 3rd round tie, (which went down as one of Anders Svensson's best games (and goals for that matter. Times change and now we are struggling but only after playing 6 of the top 10 sides this season, and none of those top sides got there JUST by beating us.

However, we will turn the corner sometime and this is the ideal game to do so - for several reasons.

 

Team wise . I'd play Boruc. The back line (and midfield) practically picks itself, but if Luke Shaw is going to get a start we've nothing else to lose - so why not?.

If other results go against us, we could be bottom by Saturday evening.

 

Rickie should start (but we still have to consider giving Rodriguez a run of games - or he'll never take off).

 

Lastly.... if Tadanari Lee is back fit, I'd like to see him (and /or) Mayuka get more than a 20 minute run-out. I think Tottenham, who have speedy wingers themselves, may also be vulnerable to the same tactic.

Edited 27 October, 2012 by david in sweden

[david in sweden]

Yeah course I did that.

 

Oh didn't mention I'd played the game or what level at did I.......

 

 

No We didn't know Turkish - have you mentioned that before ?

 

Unfortunately - even some ex-professional footballers retire and leave their brains in the boot room, and there is a long list of former internationals who were absolutely hopeless when it came to managing a team.

[PhilippineSaint]

No We didn't know Turkish - have you mentioned that before ?

 

Unfortunately - even some ex-professional footballers retire and leave their brains in the boot room, and there is a long list of former internationals who were absolutely hopeless when it came to managing a team.

 

I managed an Alloa Athletic Subutteo team once and they won nothing then as well. Does that qualify me to manage a Premiership league team ?

[Turkish]

No We didn't know Turkish - have you mentioned that before ?

 

Unfortunately - even some ex-professional footballers retire and leave their brains in the boot room, and there is a long list of former internationals who were absolutely hopeless when it came to managing a team.

 

So what?

[Ed Rooney]

Such a shame. And wasn't it you that brought up who you'd play with and been coached under. Want to share it and justify your instance on it with reasons and explanations other than giving bale more space to play in because he have some anyway? In sure you can quickly google 'reasons to play 3-5-2'

 

God you just keep on don't you, didn't I say I didn't think bale will get any more space than he will playing the way we have been playing. Give it up Turkish you think your way is better and I think my way could work. You called me clueless, I stated you have no idea about me or if I have played an what level, didn't state I had, more of a you can't call people you do not know clueless just because they have a different idea than you statement. if you want names and by having them will make any difference and will mean you are not so blinkered and think your right with everything then let me know

[ottery st mary]

Boruc

 

Clyne Fonte Yoshida Fox or Shaw or Reeves (injuries?)

 

Morgan Davis

 

Puncheon Lallana

 

 

Ramirez (Jrod...if Gaston not fit)

Lambert

 

 

Subs from...depending on fitness etc in team..

 

Gazza, Josh, JWP, (Reeves, Fox, Shaw) Chappers, Mayuka, Lee, JRod/Ramirez....Forgot Guly...

 

If fit would like to see..Ramirez and Shaw ( Shaw pace needed) playing......Mayuka and Lee getting on.

 

Saints 3-1:D

 

COYS:)

 

Surprise in store......Mayuka may start?

Edited 27 October, 2012 by ottery st mary

[saint_disco123]

some are you are mad to play that **** keeper boruc!

 

it should be

 

Gazza

cylne-jose-maya-shaw

puncheon-davis-morgan-lallana

mayuka-lambert

 

good strong team with debuts for shaw and mayuka who have points to prove!

 

COYRS

[S-Clarke]

some are you are mad to play that **** keeper boruc!

 

it should be

 

Gazza

cylne-jose-maya-shaw

puncheon-davis-morgan-lallana

mayuka-lambert

 

good strong team with debuts for shaw and mayuka who have points to prove!

 

COYRS

 

I too believe Gazza should, and will start. But why have you come to the opinion that Boruc is ****? Based on a 90 min game?

 

Have a look at his career and you will quickly realise than he's anything but ****.

[Itchen_block4]

-----------------Boruc

Clyne-----Fonte-----Yoshida-----Fox

---------Morgan-----JWP

---------------Lallana

Puncheon-------------------Mayuka

--------------Rodriguez

 

Gazzaniga, Hooiveld, Shaw, Reeves, Davis, Lambert, De Ridder

 

I like what I've seen of Gazzaniga, but we've made our statement about Boruc and I don't think it would be proper to change back. Boruic is clearly a very good keeper who needs match fitness.

 

JWP in for Davis as I just think we need some fresh legs.

 

I've left Lambert on the bench as Rodriguez offers more pace and movement. Gallas is ancient and Walker is quite forward-happy, so I think we could exploit that. Playing without Lambert is something we need to get used to, to give us another string to our bow. I'm not suggesting in the slightest that we should freeze him out, but we need to explore our options. Lambert isn't superman and isn't going to be fit/appropriate for every game.

[Roger]

-----------------Boruc

Clyne-----Fonte-----Yoshida-----Fox

---------Morgan-----JWP

---------------Lallana

Puncheon-------------------Mayuka

--------------Rodriguez

 

Gazzaniga, Hooiveld, Shaw, Reeves, Davis, Lambert, De Ridder

 

I like what I've seen of Gazzaniga, but we've made our statement about Boruc and I don't think it would be proper to change back. Boruic is clearly a very good keeper who needs match fitness.

 

JWP in for Davis as I just think we need some fresh legs.

 

I've left Lambert on the bench as Rodriguez offers more pace and movement. Gallas is ancient and Walker is quite forward-happy, so I think we could exploit that. Playing without Lambert is something we need to get used to, to give us another string to our bow. I'm not suggesting in the slightest that we should freeze him out, but we need to explore our options. Lambert isn't superman and isn't going to be fit/appropriate for every game.

 

Don't get it at all.

[Thedelldays]

leave lambert on the bench.....holy fuking christ

why do we need to get used to playing without lambert ffs

[Turkish]

God you just keep on don't you, didn't I say I didn't think bale will get any more space than he will playing the way we have been playing. Give it up Turkish you think your way is better and I think my way could work. You called me clueless, I stated you have no idea about me or if I have played an what level, didn't state I had, more of a you can't call people you do not know clueless just because they have a different idea than you statement. if you want names and by having them will make any difference and will mean you are not so blinkered and think your right with everything then let me know

 

Fair enough, I think we play against Spurs by reducing the space and delivery to their main threat. You think we play them by giving their main threat more space, especially space to run into, where he's crucified far better full backs than Clyne. I gurantee you one thing, Adkins won't strait 3-5-2 tomorrow and I doubt anyone else will this season when playing Spurs, I can't begin to imagine why that would be, it works in Italy don't it?

[Itchen_block4]

leave lambert on the bench.....holy fuking christ

why do we need to get used to playing without lambert ffs

 

Because Lambert is just one man. If Lambert got injured, where would we be then? Lambert still isn't the fittest player either and we need an option to stay in a game if we have to take him off.

[Thedelldays]

Because Lambert is just one man. If Lambert got injured, where would we be then? Lambert still isn't the fittest player either and we need an option to stay in a game if we have to take him off.

that is no reason to drop your best player, most goal threat and talisman when you desperately need points...I dont remember Le Tiss being dropped with any success...and lambert is as close to a saviour as we have right now...

[L1Minus10]

Boruc

=======

Clyne

Fonte

Yoshida

Shaw

=======

Chaplow

Schneiderlin

Davis

=======

Puncheon

Lambert

Lallana

 

Subs: Gazzaniga, Hooiveld, Fox, Ward-Prowse, de Ridder, Rodriguez, Mayuka

[Ed Rooney]

Fair enough, I think we play against Spurs by reducing the space and delivery to their main threat. You think we play them by giving their main threat more space, especially space to run into, where he's crucified far better full backs than Clyne. I gurantee you one thing, Adkins won't strait 3-5-2 tomorrow and I doubt anyone else will this season when playing Spurs, I can't begin to imagine why that would be, it works in Italy don't it?

 

You are correct NA will not play this formation, others may but we definitely will not. I must have mis understood this post as it seemed people were giving their thoughts as to what team they would play against spurs. 3 5 2 can be played to nullify the threat from the opposing teams wingers if played right. You do not think so, but I do.

[Turkish]

Because Lambert is just one man. If Lambert got injured, where would we be then? Lambert still isn't the fittest player either and we need an option to stay in a game if we have to take him off.

 

So we don't play Lambert because if he was injured we wouldn't be able to play him. Brilliant logic.

[Turkish]

You are correct NA will not play this formation, others may but we definitely will not. I must have mis understood this post as it seemed people were giving their thoughts as to what team they would play against spurs. 3 5 2 can be played to nullify the threat from the opposing teams wingers if played right. You do not think so, but I do.

 

So it seems like no other premier league manager agrees with you that 3-5-2 is the way to beat Spurs then.

[Ed Rooney]

So it seems like no other premier league manager agrees with you that 3-5-2 is the way to beat Spurs then.

 

Has the season finished then ? Have you interviewed all managers domestic and foreign about how they would play against spurs ?

[Turkish]

Has the season finished then ? Have you interviewed all managers domestic and foreign about how they would play against spurs ?

 

I will have a bet wih you that no one will beat spurs this season playing 3-5-2 when Bale and Lennon start. £50 to charity. Okay?

[Wade Garrett]

Trouble with doubling up on players is that it leaves time and space for others. I don't think doubling up on Bale will achieve much anyway.

 

I played the game at a decent standard but have no interest in coaching. I do not have any UEFA badges, but I did have the silver England Panini sticker badge in the World Cup '82 book.

[Turkish]

Trouble with doubling up on players is that it leaves time and space for others. I don't think doubling up on Bale will achieve much anyway.

 

I played the game at a decent standard but have no interest in coaching. I do not have any UEFA badges, but I did have the silver England Panini sticker badge in the World Cup '82 book.

 

The on in the Mexico 86 book was the most sought after. Worth 5 on sawpsies

[70's Mike]

Interesting discussion on Sky with Le Tiss, regarding playing 4-3-3 if it does not suit players. Also pick your best 11 and then select formation not fit players to 4-3-3

[Bearsy]

So it seems like no other premier league manager agrees with you that 3-5-2 is the way to beat Spurs then.

 

Martinez is your man homes! He tried it in January. They lost 3-1. Bale scored twice.

 

Tottenham (4-4-1-1): Friedel; Walker (Sandro 75), Kaboul, King, Assou-Ekotto; Kranjcar, Parker, Modric, Bale; Van der Vaart (Livermore 31); Adebayor (Lancaster 78). Subs: Cudicini (g) Dawson, Rose, Pienaar.

Goals: Bale 29, 64, Modric 34

 

Wigan Athletic (3-5-2): Al Habsi; Boyce, Caldwell, Figueroa; Stam, McCarthy, Watson (Crusat 87), Gomez (McArthur 70), Beausejour; Di Santo (Sammon 74), Moses. Subs: Pollitt (g), Gohouri, Jones, Rodallega. Booked: Crusat.

Goals: McArthur 80

[Wade Garrett]

The on in the Mexico 86 book was the most sought after. Worth 5 on sawpsies

 

The most sought after swapsie was David McCreery, Northern Ireland, World Cup '82. Got it to finish the book, and gave someone all of my swaps (must have been at last 50).

 

I must add again, I have no UEFA coaching badges.

[Turkish]

Martinez is your man homes! He tried it in January. They lost 3-1. Bale scored twice.

 

Tottenham (4-4-1-1): Friedel; Walker (Sandro 75), Kaboul, King, Assou-Ekotto; Kranjcar, Parker, Modric, Bale; Van der Vaart (Livermore 31); Adebayor (Lancaster 78). Subs: Cudicini (g) Dawson, Rose, Pienaar.

Goals: Bale 29, 64, Modric 34

 

Wigan Athletic (3-5-2): Al Habsi; Boyce, Caldwell, Figueroa; Stam, McCarthy, Watson (Crusat 87), Gomez (McArthur 70), Beausejour; Di Santo (Sammon 74), Moses. Subs: Pollitt (g), Gohouri, Jones, Rodallega. Booked: Crusat.

Goals: McArthur 80

 

I rest my case

[lordswoodsaints]

Bale will rip us a new one regardless who starts.....but I am expecting some more bizarre decisions by whoever picks the team.

[pezza]

.............................Boruc..........................

Richardson.......Fonte.....Yoshida........Fox

Clyne.................................................

Cork..................................................

Guly......................Lallana..................

Mayuka.................Lambert................

 

 

 

Like this

[pezza]

We've conceded 24 goals after 8 games, 3 on average per game with 4 defenders. Are you seriously suggesting we could play with 3 against Spurs?

Puncheon definately plays for me.

Gazzaniga

 

Clyne

Fonte

Yoshida

Fox (it pains to say that really. But we have no other fit fullbacks)

 

Schneiderlin

Davis

Ward Prowse

 

Lallana

Lambert

Puncheon

 

But it will be this

[pezza]

.................boruc...................

.........fonte..yoshida..jos......

Clyne..........morgan............shaw

............davis......lallana..........

.............mayuka....lambert.....

 

 

Sorry meant like this not that other gash i mentioned

[Turkish]

Sorry meant like this not that other gash i mentioned

 

That one is worse.

[Wes Tender]

Bale will rip us a new one regardless who starts.....but I am expecting some more bizarre decisions by whoever picks the team.

 

Maybe Bale has had some sleepless nights if his daughter has kept him awake this past week.

[derry]

Lambert is a big man in football terms, we need to keep him match fit. The more he plays the fitter he gets. If we keep leaving him out he won't be sharper just less fit. All the training in the world doesn't give match fitness. He should play all the league matches unless there is an injury problem. If we get a vital penalty in injury time I want Lambert taking it, not some rabbit in the headlights tapping it to the goalkeeper.

[Itchen_block4]

that is no reason to drop your best player, most goal threat and talisman when you desperately need points...I dont remember Le Tiss being dropped with any success...and lambert is as close to a saviour as we have right now...

 

Lambert is no Le Tiss. He can play a bit and break the net, but on the whole he's a bit of a carthorse. I don't think Lambert is as good as some people seem to think and I believe that becoming too dependant on him will hold the club back. Remember that the couple of seasons after Le Tiss retired, Saints got to an FA Cup final and made their best positions for years. Seeing past a talismanic player isn't easy, but for the progression of the club, it has to be done. Rodriguez is quicker than Lambert annd has better movement. He's more likely to get behind the defence too.