Harry Redknapp to be named manager within 3 weeks

[Window Cleaner]

I'd wager that the bookies are pleased that Harry is still out of work, makes him favourite for most jobs going and stupid punters give them money because of it. I mean 8/1 at Ipswich, Arry wouldn't be seen dead in Ipswich. I see he's 7/4 for the Saints job as well, mind you Uwe Rosler is 40/1, surely no one actually loses money on these daft punts.

Edited 24 October, 2012 by Window Cleaner

[This Charming Man]

Oh the sweet irony - you're all agenda ridden mugs says the bloke singing songs about Cortese. Priceless.

 

Completely missing the sarcasm in someone's post. Priceless.

[trousers]

Completely missing the sarcasm in someone's post. Priceless.

 

Completely missing someone pretending to miss the sarcasm in someone's post. Priceless.

 

[Doctoroncall]

Oh the sweet irony - you're all agenda ridden mugs says the bloke singing songs about Cortese. Priceless.

 

More like parody than irony?

[Depressed of Shirley]

Have Bournemouth and West Ham gone into admin shortly after he left? I dont recall this, remind me. As for us, it wasn't Redknapps fault we went into admin, he spent £90k when we got relegated and his only major permenant signing in the PL was Quasie.

 

As for Pompey, are you really putting that at his door and not the fake owners, arms dealers, money launderers and so on? Oh no, its all Redknapss fault, lets ignore the fact that most of the signings he made were sold at a huge profit.

 

I've got it, your Corporate Ho aren't you?

[Dalek2003]

What a load of tosh !

 

The fans need to back Adkins. A few wins and all will be sweet starting against Spurs !

[Dalek2003]

I'd rather be relegated with Nigel than have that budgie back

 

 

 

The choice some people made in 2004, when they were against the re-appointment of Hoddle. Hope people thought it was worth it.

 

Personally I am backing NA at the moment, but if NA should resign before he is pushed i believe we should back Lucifer himself, if he can keep us up ! LOL

[Spudders]

What a load of tosh !

 

The fans need to back Adkins. A few wins and all will be sweet starting against Spurs !

 

WHAAAAAAAAT? This is the one time you could make legitimate comments about getting Hoddle back rather than redknapp and people would agree with you, yet you are just posting about backing Adkins. Dalek you make my head feel like exploding! This is a massive surprise. I guess Hoddle would not want to be part of a yo yo plan, is that it?

 

 

Edit, ahhhh that's better, in the time it took me to post this, you've posted again and made reference to him, phew that's better I was worried for minute!

Edited 24 October, 2012 by Spudders

[Guan 2.0]

Have Bournemouth and West Ham gone into admin shortly after he left? I dont recall this, remind me. As for us, it wasn't Redknapps fault we went into admin, he spent £90k when we got relegated and his only major permenant signing in the PL was Quasie.

 

As for Pompey, are you really putting that at his door and not the fake owners, arms dealers, money launderers and so on? Oh no, its all Redknapss fault, lets ignore the fact that most of the signings he made were sold at a huge profit.

 

The man who reads between the lies to see the truth spouts the biggest lie of all. Anybody with half a brain knows this to be a lie http://www.thesaintshub.com/marcelotejera.html about a very dodgy transfer , and anybody with the memory or will to remember will know that Redknapp was persuing over the summer Clinton Morrison (£500,000) who said in the press he would only move to a london club near his home, and Robbie Blake (300,000) who wanted a move in the north or midlands. Because of his laziness in looking for targets (which summed up his time here), we ended up with fuller via Mckay, and Tajera via Mcmenemy junior. Except that didn't happen, because you told us so and we're all mugs.

 

I don't quite know what you get out of spamming the threads with your attempt at revisionist nonsense.

[Turkish]

The man who reads between the lies to see the truth spouts the biggest lie of all. Anybody with half a brain knows this to be a lie http://www.thesaintshub.com/marcelotejera.html about a very dodgy transfer , and anybody with the memory or will to remember will know that Redknapp was persuing over the summer Clinton Morrison (£500,000) who said in the press he would only move to a london club near his home, and Robbie Blake (300,000) who wanted a move in the north or midlands. Because of his laziness in looking for targets (which summed up his time here), we ended up with fuller via Mckay, and Tajera via Mcmenemy junior. Except that didn't happen, because you told us so and we're all mugs.

 

I don't quite know what you get out of spamming the threads with your attempt at revisionist nonsense.

 

Oh sh*t sorry, i forget about a £100k loan fee for a player that never played for us!!

 

The point was, was Redknapp the reason we went into administration, like the poster i replied to was implying.

[egg]

Not this old chestnut. I do'nt know how he cons people into believing it. Harry's transfers deals have lined his own pockets true but they have never benefiited any club he has worked for. Indeed all of them or 'their owners' have gone into administration shortly after he left except Spurs - and one reason for sacking him was a concern about those dealings. He has nothing to offer this club except certain relegation - leaving us stranded in the Champioshipm with over-paid overvalued players AGAIN.

 

My point is that his signings improved Spurs on the pitch.

 

As for overpaid players, If we go down we'll be stranded with overpaid players. Indeed, we're stuck with overpaid players now. Dickson couldn't be moved on as his wages prevented even a loan deal. I suspect wages are the reason Butterfield, Barnard, Forte etc are still on our books.

 

I want to make that I don't want HR near our club, but if we're gonna make a change then there's a convincing case for him.

[egg]

Oh sh*t sorry, i forget about a £100k loan fee for a player that never played for us!!

 

The point was, was Redknapp the reason we went into administration, like the poster i replied to was implying.

 

If he was the reason we went down then indirectly I suppose he is.

[Tractor_Saint]

Let's take a minute to reminisce...

 

 

No one really knows until the deals done, signed and delivered...

[Turkish]

If he was the reason we went down then indirectly I suppose he is.

 

Not really. As i said above, if we'd have averaged his points per game over the whole season wed have stayed up. The damage was already done by not improving the team and appointing Sturrock and then Wigley. Funny how people blame Redknapp when it suits them and blame Rupert when it suits them.

[egg]

Not really. As i said above, if we'd have averaged his points per game over the whole season wed have stayed up. The damage was already done by not improving the team and appointing Sturrock and then Wigley. Funny how people blame Redknapp when it suits them and blame Rupert when it suits them.

 

Cross purposes. We would have avoided admin if we stayed up. We didn't. If HR was the cause of our relegation then indirectly the admin was down to him.

 

I agree that the rot had set in before HR arrived.

[teacher]

As much as I hate Redknapp for 1) taking us down and 2) walking out on us to return back to his "spiritual home", I can't help but think that his return would be a positive. Look at the job he did with Spurs, also it wasn't too long ago he was being publicly backed for the England job. The guy is no fool, but I do think he will only be looking for the next best thing and leave us up **** creek again.

[Window Cleaner]

As much as I hate Redknapp for 1) taking us down and 2) walking out on us to return back to his "spiritual home", I can't help but think that his return would be a positive. Look at the job he did with Spurs, also it wasn't too long ago he was being publicly backed for the England job. The guy is no fool, but I do think he will only be looking for the next best thing and leave us up **** creek again.

 

 

Doubt that, he's 65 already and may be looking for one last decent job. Can't see him taking any job that he doesn't really fancy.

Still think he's waiting for the England job,Hodgson won't last long.

Edited 24 October, 2012 by Window Cleaner

[Turkish]

Cross purposes. We would have avoided admin if we stayed up. We didn't. If HR was the cause of our relegation then indirectly the admin was down to him.

 

I agree that the rot had set in before HR arrived.

 

If you're going to look at it like that you could say if Strachan hadn't left wed never have appointed Sturrock which lead to our revolving door management policy, which lead to relegation, which lead to admin, it's Strachans fault we went into admin. Nothing to do with Wilde and co spunking £7m we didn't have up the wall.

[lydlinch saints]

Bring back Harry and quick its the only option we are running out time, we are becoming a laughing stock , like harding and hammond Atkins is not good enough for prem

[Horley CTFC Saint]

Bring back Harry and quick its the only option we are running out time, we are becoming a laughing stock , like harding and hammond Atkins is not good enough for prem

 

I remain to be convinced by such tosh - nothing against Harry myself he's a little bit fly but would probably do a good job for us but Adkins is one of our more exciting signings - I fail to see how he can be judged on eight Premier League games. If the board had done that with Lawrie Mac all those years ago we would probably never have won the FA Cup, made the final of the League Cup and finished 2nd in the old First Division

[Saint_clark]

As I got infraction points for posting an obvious joke on the main board I sincerely

hope that also happens to the original poster.

 

In fact thinking about it I think we should all report the original post and bring it to the attention

of the admins as it is just an obvious attempt to wind people up, not start a reasonable debate.

 

It's a quote from a journalist, your thread was "Just this second heard Adkins has gone....home until monday" or some rubbish.

 

As for Redknapp - I will not go to any Saints games while he is manager. I will still watch on TV, listen on radio etc. but I couldn't physically support a team of his.

[ibizasaint]

I hope NA stays, he deserves a chance to turn it round.... cant believe people actually want HR or Hollowhead to replace him as they are both prize twads.

[kraftwerk26]

If we get Redknapp I will never watch us again

[VectisSaint]

Bring back Harry and quick its the only option we are running out time, we are becoming a laughing stock , like harding and hammond Atkins is not good enough for prem

Of all the unemployed managers out there (except Hoddle) why would anyone think that bringing back Arry is a good idea. I guess some people have short memories. This would be the same Arry who got us relegated before, who had no idea how to turn a losing team into a winning one. This would be the same Arry who was a complete wizard at sorting out the defence, bringing in those great defenders Olivier Bernard, Andreas Jakobssen and Calum Davenport. Too many people believe what they read in the tabloids that Arry is a great manager, he isn't. He is also unemployed for a good reason, because he cannot develop a team and only succeeds by buying in players in the transfer window. Even his partial success at Spuds only highlighted that he did not know how to organise a defence, Spuds succeeded because they were great at goingforward - sound familiar?

 

I don't believe for one nanosecond that NC would even contemplate having saggy chops around, they are an even worse fit than Lowe and Arry, as different as Chalk and ****. Redknapp would be just about the worst possible option in our current predicament (OK, Burley would be worse, and possibly Portvliet, oh and Wigley) but you get my drift

[Wade Garrett]

The original quote from the journo, saying 3 weeks, looks very suspect to me. If NC wants him back, why would he wait?

 

I reckon it's rubbish.

[Chez]

I bet this thread is a tough one to avoid for all those POL undercover agents.

[scotty]

I bet this thread is a tough one to avoid for all those POL undercover agents.

 

I had to go down there today, St James hospital in milton road. Christ, that town is depressing.

[Saints Warrior]

We need a backup plan to get Skatenapp out if he does return. I for one dont want to see him anywhere near Southampton let alone in our ground. He got us relegated so why have him back to relegate us again.

 

He couldnt even get the England job while being `the fans fav option`.

 

Just like Maggie Maggie Maggie out out out it will be Harry Harry Harry out out out, or Skate out out out.

[dan17]

This will not happen. Amazing that people are even discussing it really.

[SaintJackoInHurworth]

This will not happen. Amazing that people are even discussing it really.

 

Spot on! This is just complete media nonsense. It goes a bit like this:

 

* Hmm, 'arry is without a job - who could he go to?

* Hmm, Southampton have spent loads of money and are near the bottom - they could sack their manager.

* Hmm, 'arry seemed to do very well at Spurs and we thought he was going to be England manager - surely he will get a job in the Premier League.

* Hmm, 'arry lives in Bournemouth and doesn't want to move from there. Working in Southampton would be very convenient for him.

* Hmm, 'arry used to be manager at Southampton - perhaps they will sack Nigel Adkins so that he can go there.

* Aha! (Journalist's brain whirrs slowly) Maybe 'arry could get a job at Southampton!! Wow! Of course... that's it!

* Now, when would this happen...? Hmm... (brain continues to whirr slowly..)

* Perhaps if Saints fail to beat QPR that will be that for Adkins...

* Hey, look at that...! The next match after QPR is against former Saints manager Alan Pardew's Newcastle - that would be a great game for us to talk about! Imagine the column inches...

* (Brain slowly whirrs some more)... yes! It's gotta happen! Redknapp to be revealed as Saints' manager in a home match against Newcastle in about three weeks' time.

* Wow! I'm a genius I think! They might give me a pay rise if I have guessed this one right!

 

Cue: article in press...!

 

Incidentally, FWIW, as many have pointed out apart from his spell at Spurs, 'arry has been a dreadful manager at many teams. He has been particularly poor at working with younger players - hence at Spurs he decided he would let someone else do the coaching for him and then just take all the credit. I think getting rid of Adkins would be counter-productive and would create the same sort of uncertainty we experienced in our relegation season.

 

Incidentally in that relegation season, 'arry's record was worse than all the previous managers we had employed that season and he at the end of the season he sacked Jim Smith to make him a scape-goat for his own failings. He then appointed Kevin Bond who was even worse and we made an atrocious start to life in the Championship.

 

Some of you will point to 'arry's success at Spurs and the development of younger players that has taken place there, but I refer you to my earlier identification of how Redknapp has achieved this success... he has got someone else to achieve it (namely Joe Jordan) and then taken the credit for himself. With this in mind, if for some crazy reason we decide to sack Adkins then my personal preference for successor would be Joe Jordan and not any of the other names that people have mentioned.

 

If we are to change anything in the club's coaching staff, I would personally be pleased if we could keep Adkins and bring Jordan to work alongside him - that would be an amazing partnership!

[Scudamore]

I bet this thread is a tough one to avoid for all those POL undercover agents.

 

Like flies round sh:t. Whether it's Redknapp or this thread that represents the sh:t in that analogy I shall let you decide.

[Saint Fan CaM]

'Arry as Director of Football?

[barney_b64]

Let's take a minute to reminisce...

 

 

No one really knows until the deals done, signed and delivered...

 

Let's just thank god we didn't get Phil Brown as manager! We'd probably be playing Pompey in league 1!

[buctootim]

Spot on! This is just complete media nonsense. It goes a bit like this:

 

* Hmm, 'arry is without a job - who could he go to?

* Hmm, Southampton have spent loads of money and are near the bottom - they could sack their manager.

* Hmm, 'arry seemed to do very well at Spurs and we thought he was going to be England manager - surely he will get a job in the Premier League.

* Hmm, 'arry lives in Bournemouth and doesn't want to move from there. Working in Southampton would be very convenient for him.

* Hmm, 'arry used to be manager at Southampton - perhaps they will sack Nigel Adkins so that he can go there.

* Aha! (Journalist's brain whirrs slowly) Maybe 'arry could get a job at Southampton!! Wow! Of course... that's it!

* Now, when would this happen...? Hmm... (brain continues to whirr slowly..)

* Perhaps if Saints fail to beat QPR that will be that for Adkins...

* Hey, look at that...! The next match after QPR is against former Saints manager Alan Pardew's Newcastle - that would be a great game for us to talk about! Imagine the column inches...

* (Brain slowly whirrs some more)... yes! It's gotta happen! Redknapp to be revealed as Saints' manager in a home match against Newcastle in about three weeks' time.

* Wow! I'm a genius I think! They might give me a pay rise if I have guessed this one right!

 

Cue: article in press...!

 

!

 

You've missed the point somewhat. Most national journos are far from thick. The are very clever at getting attention for their publication / station because that leads to sales and advertising - and guess what... you're giving it lots of attention.

[Saint Without a Halo]

Redcrap? no thank you!

[Legod Third Coming]

If this is true. Which I doubt. I won't set foot in the stadium again.

[thorpie the sinner]

Bloody hell, for our next home game we could have 11000 lol!!!!

[scotty]

What a load of tosh !

 

The fans need to back Adkins. A few wins and all will be sweet starting against Spurs !

 

 

Who are you, and what have you done with Dalek?

[brmbrm]

So no to Redknapp, but yes to a fascist?

 

 

No Saints fan should want Di Canio anywhere near the club, he is a vile man.

 

Agree.

[NickG]

HR is no mug as a manager, but I honestly believe he is overrated due to his popularity with the media and within the game.

 

I remember Lowe commenting that he was approached by HR after he left WHU, Lowe made some comment that WHU had one of the 4 highest wage bills in the premiership and HR only just escaped relegation.

 

The saving spurs story is a bit of a myth.

 

The three seasons before HR

05/06 5th 65 points

06/07 5th 60 points

7/08 11th 46 points

 

Then arrived Arry.

 

The squad that had finshed 11th had just had these players added to it;

 

Modric £17m

Santos £9m

Gomes £8m

Bentley £15m

Pavluchenko £14m

Corluka £9m

 

 

Arry also added in the January window

 

Defoe £15m

Palacios £12m

Chimbonda £2.5m

Cudicini free

Keane £12m

 

Arry, with his management skills, and an addition of a mere £105m worth of talent, took a team from 11th (46 points) to 8th (51 points).

 

The next season he only spent £30m on Crouch(£10m) Bassong (£8m) Kaboul (£8m) plus few others, season after £20m on Sandro (£6m) Van Der Vaat(£8m) Piernaar (£3m) Gallas free. Before slowing down with Parker £6m.

 

This management, and spending, took spurs from

04/05 9th (52)

05/05 5th (65)

06/07 5th (60)

07/08 11th (46)

 

to

 

08/09 8th (51)

09/10 4th (70)

10/11 5th (62)

11/12 4th (69)

 

Yes improvement, yes decent experienced manager, but not manager who dragged Spurs from nowhere like some suggest..and was at huge cost.

[Mr X]

HR is no mug as a manager, but I honestly believe he is overrated due to his popularity with the media and within the game.

 

I remember Lowe commenting that he was approached by HR after he left WHU, Lowe made some comment that WHU had one of the 4 highest wage bills in the premiership and HR only just escaped relegation.

 

The saving spurs story is a bit of a myth.

 

The three seasons before HR

05/06 5th 65 points

06/07 5th 60 points

7/08 11th 46 points

 

Then arrived Arry.

 

The squad that had finshed 11th had just had these players added to it;

 

Modric £17m

Santos £9m

Gomes £8m

Bentley £15m

Pavluchenko £14m

Corluka £9m

 

 

Arry also added in the January window

 

Defoe £15m

Palacios £12m

Chimbonda £2.5m

Cudicini free

Keane £12m

 

Arry, with his management skills, and an addition of a mere £105m worth of talent, took a team from 11th (46 points) to 8th (51 points).

 

The next season he only spent £30m on Crouch(£10m) Bassong (£8m) Kaboul (£8m) plus few others, season after £20m on Sandro (£6m) Van Der Vaat(£8m) Piernaar (£3m) Gallas free. Before slowing down with Parker £6m.

 

This management, and spending, took spurs from

04/05 9th (52)

05/05 5th (65)

06/07 5th (60)

07/08 11th (46)

 

to

 

08/09 8th (51)

09/10 4th (70)

10/11 5th (62)

11/12 4th (69)

 

Yes improvement, yes decent experienced manager, but not manager who dragged Spurs from nowhere like some suggest..and was at huge cost.

. Finally the real facts on paper Harry isn't some wonder manager he's only any good when he's had serious money to spend and even then it's not like he's ever took a club from relegation to the top five. Also when he decides to walk out on a club he leaves them with truly crippling wage bills like putting David James on 90k a week.

 

There's zero chance that he'd want to come back after publicly declaring he didnt want to be here the last time! and he would just walk out on us the first opportunity he got to go to a top six club so what's the point it would be a huge step back.

[Thedelldays]

if it was that easy..I am amazed they have not won the league recently

 

how will money spent equate to adkins and saints being 7th biggest spenders in europe....added to the likes of lambert, lallana and morgan.....???

 

should we be further up the table....if it boils down to money spent...?

[The Kraken]

if it was that easy..I am amazed they have not won the league recently

 

how will money spent equate to adkins and saints being 7th biggest spenders in europe....added to the likes of lambert, lallana and morgan.....???

 

should we be further up the table....if it boils down to money spent...?

 

Quite frankly, yes; of course we should.

[Mr X]

if it was that easy..I am amazed they have not won the league recently

 

how will money spent equate to adkins and saints being 7th biggest spenders in europe....added to the likes of lambert, lallana and morgan.....???

 

should we be further up the table....if it boils down to money spent...?

 

there is a correlation between money spent and league position but its not as black and white as that however whichever way you look at it Adkins has been given the largest transfer kitty in the clubs history and has spent it absolutely bizarrely (little premiership experience and in totally the wrong areas when we should have built up from the back four) in Adkins defence I don't believe these our solely his signings Cortese is pulling more strings behind the stage than anyone can imagine

[Thedelldays]

Quite frankly, yes; of course we should.

I know that..but to dismiss one manager saying he should be 4th and is average..yet ours in amazing despite the team being rather crap....

 

if you hadnt had guessed, my faith in nigel is (sadly) gone with regards to his ability to keep us up....

[Wade Garrett]

HR is no mug as a manager, but I honestly believe he is overrated due to his popularity with the media and within the game.

 

I remember Lowe commenting that he was approached by HR after he left WHU, Lowe made some comment that WHU had one of the 4 highest wage bills in the premiership and HR only just escaped relegation.

 

The saving spurs story is a bit of a myth.

 

The three seasons before HR

05/06 5th 65 points

06/07 5th 60 points

7/08 11th 46 points

 

Then arrived Arry.

 

The squad that had finshed 11th had just had these players added to it;

 

Modric £17m

Santos £9m

Gomes £8m

Bentley £15m

Pavluchenko £14m

Corluka £9m

 

 

Arry also added in the January window

 

Defoe £15m

Palacios £12m

Chimbonda £2.5m

Cudicini free

Keane £12m

 

Arry, with his management skills, and an addition of a mere £105m worth of talent, took a team from 11th (46 points) to 8th (51 points).

 

The next season he only spent £30m on Crouch(£10m) Bassong (£8m) Kaboul (£8m) plus few others, season after £20m on Sandro (£6m) Van Der Vaat(£8m) Piernaar (£3m) Gallas free. Before slowing down with Parker £6m.

 

This management, and spending, took spurs from

04/05 9th (52)

05/05 5th (65)

06/07 5th (60)

07/08 11th (46)

 

to

 

08/09 8th (51)

09/10 4th (70)

10/11 5th (62)

11/12 4th (69)

 

Yes improvement, yes decent experienced manager, but not manager who dragged Spurs from nowhere like some suggest..and was at huge cost.

 

Not saying I want Redknapp here, but the point you're trying to make here is a load of crap. A lot of the cost was offset by player sales which you fail to mention. Redknapp was working under a chairman every bit as ruthless and savvy as Cortese in Daniel Levy. The fact is, Redknapp took a failing team, who were in a poor position at the time and going nowhere, and turned them around.

[Mr X]

I know that..but to dismiss one manager saying he should be 4th and is average..yet ours in amazing despite the team being rather crap....

 

if you hadnt had guessed, my faith in nigel is (sadly) gone with regards to his ability to keep us up....

. I believe nige has the skills to keep us up problem is it would need him to stop being a yes man, ditch the ridiculous formations and taking of the best peforming players at crucial times! Also without that quality left back in jan we are a goner

[Thedelldays]

. I believe nige has the skills to keep us up problem is it would need him to stop being a yes man, ditch the ridiculous formations and taking of the best peforming players at crucial times! Also without that quality left back in jan we are a goner

that is my point..you have no idea if all this 433 malarky is not driven by nigel himself..?

[stevegrant]

I know that..but to dismiss one manager saying he should be 4th and is average..yet ours in amazing despite the team being rather crap....

 

if you hadnt had guessed, my faith in nigel is (sadly) gone with regards to his ability to keep us up....

Spending a load of money to improve what was already a very strong squad is a rather different proposition to spending a load of money to improve a squad that was, in all reality, nowhere near the level required to survive at this level.

[SaintRichmond]

Bring back Harry and quick its the only option we are running out time, we are becoming a laughing stock , like harding and hammond Atkins is not good enough for prem

 

 

Agreed ..... but ADKINS is