SNOWY Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 I'd imagine NA will be ok until the end of November. November is a massive month for us, if we cant pick up some momentum by the end of the month I think NA will be gone. I'd be suprised if Saints aren't starting to sound out possible candidates so they are prepared should they have to sack NA. This is probably where the story has come from. I hope NC will have learn't his lesson from the period we had between Pardew going and Adkins arriving and have someone lined up. What I really want is Adkins to turn it around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 He's been really complimentary of saints many times lately... Which worries me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Give Harry a break he had to put up with the ridiculous Ruprt Lowe and the rugby coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 If there is unrest at the club and HR is being sounded out, my question is who by. 75% of a poll on here and the Echo support keeping Adkins. The man deserves the season whatever the results to see if he can keep us up. He has given us two very successful seasons, we are where we want to be, in my opinion too early in the team's natural evolution. Two years from now we might have been considerably stronger. Redknapp isn't a genius, he has wasted enormous sums on bad players over his career. He has never gone anywhere and made the current team better without almost completely replacing the squad. Even then Spurs with enormous expense is the best he has been. At Portsmouth bankruptcy occurred as a result of massive waste. If we are going to change, it needs a manager similar to Di Matteo/Clark not Redknapp and his baggage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 It won't happen, especially if the 4-3-3 system has been implemented from the ground up at the club. It'll be a continental manager adept to the formation already, if Adkins does go that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Harry is a good manager, fans aware fikkle a few wins and they'll be loving him again. His last reign was under Lowe And we were a ship already listing badly taking in water. If Adkins is to go Harry is the best candidate for the job out there like it or not... And on our door step. Has the reputation to bring in the players to make us stronger and help us reach our goals! Crowds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Appointing Redknapp would be an almighty U-turn by Cortese as it would go against all of the club's so-called "principles" of promoting youth players, signing players with technical ability and many years in the game ahead of them, and of course conducting its business in private. I can't see it happening. Of course there would also be the issue of the manager's remit and control - Redknapp is an old-fashioned manager who likes to retain complete control of player recruitment and team selections, given what's happened here in the last couple of years, would he get that control? Personally, I doubt it. Oh, and he's a Judas twitchy-faced lying c**t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Appointing Redknapp would be an almighty U-turn by Cortese as it would go against all of the club's so-called "principles" of promoting youth players, signing players with technical ability and many years in the game ahead of them, and of course conducting its business in private. I can't see it happening. Of course there would also be the issue of the manager's remit and control - Redknapp is an old-fashioned manager who likes to retain complete control of player recruitment and team selections, given what's happened here in the last couple of years, would he get that control? Personally, I doubt it.Oh, and he's a Judas twitchy-faced lying c**t. But if you believe, as many do on here, that Adkins is fully in control of team selection, formations and transfers, then none of this will be a problem, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 For sure... I was watching him as a pundit on MOTD the other day and every single player who was doing well caused him to say 'we had a look at him', or 'I've fancied him for ages', or some such. The man is brilliant at taking the credit for things, even when not worthy. He was even banging on about Gareth Bale, who he left out of the team mystifyingly when he was with us. Or was that my memory. I've always disliked the man, not least for the shield the fawning sports journalists put up around him just because he gives them a few titbits, like throwing fishes to a group of seals. This all hides a lot of low-life activity, including dodgy betting deals and nudges and winks. Lots of winks. And for that reason, rather than the probability that he would get us a few results, I'd like him to continue looking out to sea, sticking pins in his Mark Hughes doll and waiting for the QPR cheque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 For sure... I was watching him as a pundit on MOTD the other day and every single player who was doing well caused him to say 'we had a look at him', or 'I've fancied him for ages', or some such. The man is brilliant at taking the credit for things, even when not worthy. He was even banging on about Gareth Bale, who he left out of the team mystifyingly when he was with us. Or was that my memory. I've always disliked the man, not least for the shield the fawning sports journalists put up around him just because he gives them a few titbits, like throwing fishes to a group of seals. This all hides a lot of low-life activity, including dodgy betting deals and nudges and winks. Lots of winks. And for that reason, rather than the probability that he would get us a few results, I'd like him to continue looking out to sea, sticking pins in his Mark Hughes doll and waiting for the QPR cheque. Bale would have been about 15/16 when Harry was here so I don't think he can be blamed for leaving him out of the team. That was Burley more than likely. Perhaps Harry has given up on the QPR job already, from what I saw of them last Sunday they've every chance of getting it together soon and Hughes won't necessarily be sacked any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersubpuckett Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 how about if he's brought in as a director of football to help nigel out he took spurs from bottom of prem to top 6 - you can't deny he knows his stuff regardless of his messy tenure at st marys last time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 But if you believe, as many do on here, that Adkins is fully in control of team selection, formations and transfers, then none of this will be a problem, surely? As it happens, I don't believe that to be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 how about if he's brought in as a director of football to help nigel out We effectively already have a director of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 If there is unrest at the club and HR is being sounded out, my question is who by. 75% of a poll on here and the Echo support keeping Adkins. The man deserves the season whatever the results to see if he can keep us up. He has given us two very successful seasons, we are where we want to be, in my opinion too early in the team's natural evolution. Two years from now we might have been considerably stronger. That's now. Football fans are, by their very nature, extremely fickle. The same poll conducted on here after the Fulham game showed around 95% support for NA. A win against Tottenham and that figure will likely be back up to 95%. A defeat, and a heavy one at that; well we'll probably be looking at a figure around 50% - 60% and falling. I've been in the "keep Adkins at all costs" brigade. But that's conditional; especially upon him showing signs of being able to snap the team out of its current malaise. Playing our only competent centre back completely out of position at left back, dropping our best striker, and various other selection and tactical nightmares are doing him no favours when trying to deal with the abject lopsided transfer summer he was provided. All that said, I'd be mystified as to why Rednapp would come in under the same circumstances; and would suggest he wouldn't, that there would have to be changes behind the scenes to accommodate him if it actually happened (I truly can't see it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 That's now. Football fans are, by their very nature, extremely fickle. The same poll conducted on here after the Fulham game showed around 95% support for NA. A win against Tottenham and that figure will likely be back up to 95%. A defeat, and a heavy one at that; well we'll probably be looking at a figure around 50% - 60% and falling. I've been in the "keep Adkins at all costs" brigade. But that's conditional; especially upon him showing signs of being able to snap the team out of its current malaise. Playing our only competent centre back completely out of position at left back, dropping our best striker, and various other selection and tactical nightmares are doing him no favours when trying to deal with the abject lopsided transfer summer he was provided. All that said, I'd be mystified as to why Rednapp would come in under the same circumstances; and would suggest he wouldn't, that there would have to be changes behind the scenes to accommodate him if it actually happened (I truly can't see it). very well put Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliegeorgesflymo Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 I would never support Saints whilst he was in charge, the guy is a complete **** and NC would become the biggest **** there ever was for doing it! However I don't think NC would do this, but Di Canio yes and at 33-1 cold be a good bet? Was Les Reed at Charlton when Di Canio was there? The problem with NA as I see it is that he has no Premiership nouse - Di Canio would be the same. Look at West Ham - say what you like about Allardyce - he knows what to do to survive and that's what we need. NA needs to get a defensive war horse in - must be a few around with Premiership experience - get them working on our back line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 As has been mentioned earlier, Kate Laven, the Telegraph journo responsible for this piece, used to live in Soton (Inner Avenue way) and primarily reported on cricket. I think she may not be a staffer so always looking for an article to get into print and be paid It may well be that she has picked up a little tittle tattle locally, converted this to a piece which has been accepted by the Sports Editor. Personally I would be amazed if Cortese was ingterested in Henry. Sure he has a reasonable standing in the game, is available and lives locally. However he is 'tainted' by the last court case (and previous accusations... see Tom Bowers book) Also he has no track recored of developing youngsters and will alienate a good number of fans thereby affecting the bottom line. As a financial 'expert' Cortese will have all this in mind. Two other points... are their kennels avasilable at St Mary's/Staplewood for Rosie the dog and how would Henry's appointment at St Mary's affect the Pompey News campaign to get him a knighthood?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Would it be fair to say that in 4,000 or so members there is a cross section of fans though? Probably. The main point though is that opinions will change if he comes in, says the right things and gets the results. Pompey fans hated him when he left but soon forgave him when he went back. Can you imagine fans sreaming for HR to leave if he comes in and wins 4 on the trot? No chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 (edited) As it happens, I don't believe that to be the case. I'd be interested to hear your view Steve. It seems we agree on that, but we are in the minority. Do you believe Adkins team selections are being interfered with from above? I find it very odd that on the one hand every is supporting the chairman and Reed and claiming everything that happens on the football side involves Adkins, yet in the next breath saying Redknapp wouldn't come here because he wont be able to work with them. If he is left to get on with football matters, which many are claiming Adkins is, then why will they be unable to work together? Edited 24 October, 2012 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Well Kate Lavan admits she knows nothing about football, but this has come from trusted source. Plus it was tweet not a paid for piece! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 I'd be interested to hear your view Steve. It seems we agree on that, but we are in the minority. Doesn't mean we are wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 'arry will be behind bars before he joins saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 I'd be interested to hear your view Steve. It seems we agree on that, but we are in the minority. Do you believe Adkins team selections are being interfered with from above? I find it very odd that on the one hand every is supporting the chairman and Reed and claiming everything that happens on the football side involves Adkins, yet in the next breath saying Redknapp wouldn't come here because he wont be able to work with them. If he is left to get on with football matters, which many are claiming Adkins is, then why will they be unable to work together? Transfers: Transfer Committee as explained by Reed Formation: club philosophy for 433 to be played at all levels within the club tro help player development and integration to the first team Coaching, players selection etc: Adkins and coaching team Thats how I see it anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Serial tax dodger and relegation specialist. He can Jog On. I would rather go down with Adkins playing attractive football than go down with Saggy and his wheeler dealing approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Serial tax dodger and relegation specialist. He can Jog On. I would rather go down with Adkins playing attractive football than go down with Saggy and his wheeler dealing approach. Relegation specialist? How do you work that out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed demon Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Fingers crossed this is just an early leak to see how the fanbase would react. Nicola: His reappointment in place of an honourable man like Nigel would make me sick to my very core. I would rather be relegated with our dignity preserved then have that vile scumbag back involved with us. Nicola: I've got a grand on us staying up so while he is a saggy faced c****, if you feel that will give us a better chance of surviving then do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Simon Peach undermining the club as usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Simon Peach undermining the club as usual Dont get too exicted, last week this bloke was a cluessless crap journalist with no idea what he was on about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 How any Saints fan could say they wouldn't mind him back because he's a decent manager is beyond me. I wouldn't care if he was as good as f*cking Mourinho. He's a twitchy, disloyal Skate c*nt and shouldn't be welcome in the city of Southampton let alone anywhere near our football club. Agreed and for that reason, I am out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Redknapp is a moron that I don't want anywhere near this club. I hate him for a s*** load of reasons. I will personally hand my season ticket back if he comes back, I won't set foot in St Marys whilst that c*** is associated with our club. Cheating with the skates to buy the FA Cup Relegating us Being the most blatant media whore in football The way he destroyed the confidence of our young players culminating in Mansfield away His willingness to accept praise when things go well and deflect blame when things go wrong The acceptance of a load of morons on this site that "you can't deny he's a top top manager" despite a pretty abysmal managerial record including almost bankrupting 3 clubs The ready made excuses he will have in place when he takes over I genuinely hate him. Oh, and by the way what a bunch of fickle bed wetters a load of you are eh? Nigel an Nicola between them have overseen back to back promotions and free flowing, attacking football not seen at Saints for years. Yeah we're shipping goals but man up and get behind our club eh? Retards saying Lallana should be dropped, we should sign Harry etc are the sort of disgusting "win at all costs" post Euro 96 morons that think because they won the league on Football Manager they know it all, you make me sick and ashamed to be Southampton. I've been to every game home and away this season and despite some frustration at the end of the game on Saturday the reaction of the fans has been decent, unfortunately boards like this expose the bed wetting wimps that need some sort of platform to promote their warped views. Man up and get behind the lads. Up the Saints! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 * looks forward to a few more pictures like this * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Simon Peach undermining the club as usual *reads tweet; sees it is positive* Brilliant journalist, great tweet, Simon Peach really knows his stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 *reads tweet; sees it is positive* Brilliant journalist, great tweet, Simon Peach really knows his stuff. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 * looks forward to a few more pictures like this * Isn't that the from coronation street in the back Tyrone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 * looks forward to a few more pictures like this * They'll be a few that do that, but not many. The fairweather fans will replace them if the results are coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Whats the number for making my pledge to the muppets trying to buy Pompey? Seriously I'd rather own 0.1% of that crap hole than have Harry back at St Mary's, if it's true I hope we loose every game and are relegated by the end of January anything to hasten his departure from the club I'd rather be back in League 1 with a team full of kids than support that scumbag. For those that think it's just emotive ranting I say that football needs to be about more than winning at all costs and I'd much rather be a fan of a decent, morally upstanding club than any associated with the brown paper bag man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Relegation specialist? How do you work that out? How many Saints managers do you know that have taken us down apart from McMenemy in 73 or 74 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Can't see it happening unless he has final say on transfers - which seems unlikely given the way things seem to be at the moment. The fans would soon come round. If the team is winning no one cares about anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Cant open as i am at work, what does it say??? *reads tweet; sees it is positive* Brilliant journalist, great tweet, Simon Peach really knows his stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Nicola: I've got a grand on us staying up so while he is a saggy faced c****, if you feel that will give us a better chance of surviving then do it. You prat! Wish I had a grand to toy with like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 @SimonPeach: I understand talk of Harry Redknapp returning to #SaintsFC is complete & utter nonsense.” Thank god!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Redknapp is a moron that I don't want anywhere near this club. I hate him for a s*** load of reasons. I will personally hand my season ticket back if he comes back, I won't set foot in St Marys whilst that c*** is associated with our club. Cheating with the skates to buy the FA Cup Relegating us Being the most blatant media whore in football The way he destroyed the confidence of our young players culminating in Mansfield away His willingness to accept praise when things go well and deflect blame when things go wrong The acceptance of a load of morons on this site that "you can't deny he's a top top manager" despite a pretty abysmal managerial record including almost bankrupting 3 clubs The ready made excuses he will have in place when he takes over I genuinely hate him. Oh, and by the way what a bunch of fickle bed wetters a load of you are eh? Nigel an Nicola between them have overseen back to back promotions and free flowing, attacking football not seen at Saints for years. Yeah we're shipping goals but man up and get behind our club eh? Retards saying Lallana should be dropped, we should sign Harry etc are the sort of disgusting "win at all costs" post Euro 96 morons that think because they won the league on Football Manager they know it all, you make me sick and ashamed to be Southampton. I've been to every game home and away this season and despite some frustration at the end of the game on Saturday the reaction of the fans has been decent, unfortunately boards like this expose the bed wetting wimps that need some sort of platform to promote their warped views. Man up and get behind the lads. Up the Saints! Well said and how most Saints fans I know feel. I am confident we won't go for Redknapp anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 How many Saints managers do you know that have taken us down apart from McMenemy in 73 or 74 So one relegation in a 30 year career makes him a relegation specialist does it?!! Adkins took S****horpe down is he a relegation specialist? What about Strachan with Coventry? Thank god we never went for him as manager! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 I'm confused on this thread. I thought most people would simply say that they would back whatever Cortese decides as He'a not got much wrong so far, our past is irrelevant because the club was reborn in 2009 and Redknapp will be a great choice because He's a proven manager and like Adkins will have full control of team matters so will be in his element at this club with the ambition and backing the chairman and club has to take us into the champions league. Surely those that have spouted all this on support of their leader should shut up, back the chairmans decision as he hasn't got much wrong so far has he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 I'm confused on this thread. I thought most people would simply say that they would back whatever Cortese decides as He'a not got much wrong so far, our past is irrelevant because the club was reborn in 2009 and Redknapp will be a great choice because He's a proven manager and like Adkins will have full control of team matters so will be in his element at this club with the ambition and backing the chairman and club has to take us into the champions league. Surely those that have spouted all this on support of their leader should shut up, back the chairmans decision as he hasn't got much wrong so far has he. Im not surprised you are confused you big old WUM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Redknapp's first week: 1. "I can only do a good job if the Chairman leaves me alone etc" 2. We will play 4-4-2 3. If you are younger than 25 train with the youth team 4. Oi Cortese, I want Kenwyne Jones Yes - I could really see HR buying into NC's Southampton Way vision....for that reason it would definitely not happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Sandra may have read to him the same book derry has read and play 5 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Sandra may have read to him the same book derry has read and play 5 2 3 Dan Seaborne will be delighted at the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Sandra may have read to him the same book derry has read and play 5 2 3 dangerous thing books, if you believe all you read in them the world will end in a few weeks and the Americans didn't land on the moon. Any nutjob can write a book and sell it if the contents are controversial enough. I'm sure plenty of people believe that there's a lot of truth in the garbage Dan Brown writes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Sandra may have read to him the same book derry has read and play 5 2 3 Its not about the formation - theres an old saying "defend in to out, attack out to in" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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