Dig Dig Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 What Redknapp did last time is totally irrelevant to what he might do now. It was 7 years ago, he didn't want to be here from day one and he inherited a team which was in huge decline and beset by injuries to key players in Svenson and Oakley. I thought he'd keep us up but it's worth remembering the rot had already set in, I think we'd only won twice when he arrived and we looked a team destined for the drop. Since then he's turned Pompey who were relegation fodder when he went back into an FA Cup winning team and spurs form the bottom 3 into the champions league for the first even. As I've said a couple of times on this thread, with my Saints fan head on I don't want him anywhere near us, but thinking rationally I can't think of anyone better to establish us as a Premeir league club. True but why would he want to be here now? It's only a few months ago he was in charge of a team which finished 4th and was touted as next England manager. Plus ( and I know it's not entirely his fault) the only way he managed to turn Portsmouth around was to attract players on huge huge wages who went on the eventually cripple the club. It wasn't down to his amazing managerial prowess. Redknapp is just a poor fit for us all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 What whispers have you heard about Redknapp, Turkish? As much as I like Adkins, I can't help but think Redknapp would be a good move for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 What Redknapp did last time is totally irrelevant to what he might do now. I have to disagree. The best guide to future behaviour is past behaviour. And if he didn't want to be here from day one, who held the gun to his head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Turkish Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 True but why would he want to be here now? It's only a few months ago he was in charge of a team which finished 4th and was touted as next England manager. Plus ( and I know it's not entirely his fault) the only way he managed to turn Portsmouth around was to attract players on huge huge wages who went on the eventually cripple the club. It wasn't down to his amazing managerial prowess. Redknapp is just a poor fit for us all round. He'll want to be here because Southampton is a triffic club with great supporters and he's got unfinished business at a proper football club. He's got a huge deal of respect for Nicola and Les and what they are doing here. last time it was right club wrong time, now with the backing the club he's got he can build a team to take it to where it belongs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 I have to disagree. The best guide to future behaviour is past behaviour. And if he didn't want to be here from day one, who held the gun to his head? Yeah so if it's a guide he's taken Bournemouth to their highest ever finish, West Ham into Europe and their second highest finish, Pompey from the championship to the premier league and FA Cup winners and spurs from the bottom 3 to th champions league places. Using your guide and having succeded at 4 out of 5 clubs I would say that makes him a great choice, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 He'll want to be here because Southampton is a triffic club with great supporters and he's got unfinished business at a proper football club. He's got a huge deal of respect for Nicola and Les and what they are doing here. last time it was right club wrong time, now with the backing the club he's got he can build a team to take it to where it belongs. It will definitely be his last job in football, couldn't ask for a better place to finish, a proper family club with triffic fans who were good to him last time he was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 One million percent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 It will definitely be his last job in football, couldn't ask for a better place to finish, a proper family club with triffic fans who were good to him last time he was here. He's got unfinished business; last time the club was down to the bare bones with injuries and, with the players at the club when he arrived, they were going down anyway, no doubt. F'sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 He's got unfinished business; last time the club was down to the bare bones with injuries and, with the players at the club when he arrived, they were going down anyway, no doubt. F'sure. He's probably spoken to the chairman Nicola Cortese who deals with all the transfers and that kind of thing and his looking forward to working with some triffic players we have here like Adam Lalalana and the Uriquayen lad. Transfer money is available in Jan but he probably is unaware of any targets as Nicola will deal with all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K,Billy's supersound Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 redknapp will 100% not be our next manager if adkins is to lose his job end of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 He's probably spoken to the chairman Nicola Cortese who deals with all the transfers and that kind of thing and his looking forward to working with some triffic players we have here like Adam Lalalana and the Uriquayen lad. Transfer money is available in Jan but he probably is unaware of any targets as Nicola will deal with all that. At the end of the day though it was Sandra that swung it for him, she told him what a great opportunity it was and how he'd be mad to turn it down, it's a great job and a chance to finish his career with a triffic club. And he's not worried about the reaction of the fans, what are they going to do shoot him? It's not a war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 He's probably spoken to the chairman Nicola Cortese who deals with all the transfers and that kind of thing and his looking forward to working with some triffic players we have here like Adam Lalalana and the Uriquayen lad. Transfer money is available in Jan but he probably is unaware of any targets as Nicola will deal with all that. He's not a wheeler dealer though. Fack off. Not sure what's worse about that video; 'Arry's petulance or the commentaors "oooooh nooooo!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 At the end of the day though it was Sandra that swung it for him, she told him what a great opportunity it was and how he'd be mad to turn it down, it's a great job and a chance to finish his career with a triffic club. And he's not worried about the reaction of the fans, what are they going to do shoot him? It's not a war. Sandra doesn't want him to be travelling around the country at this age now and as soon as he spoke to Joe and Kevin and heard that they were keen, it wasn't a tough decision to make. He's been a football man all his life so why shouldn't he take a job at a proper club if it's offered to him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 He's not a wheeler dealer though. Fack off. Not sure what's worse about that video; 'Arry's petulance or the commentaors "oooooh nooooo!" Deffo the oooooooh nooooooooo. Classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 He'll want to be here because Southampton is a triffic club with great supporters and he's got unfinished business at a proper football club. He's got a huge deal of respect for Nicola and Les and what they are doing here. last time it was right club wrong time, now with the backing the club he's got he can build a team to take it to where it belongs. One million percent yeh, f'sure... ...wheeler-dealer, no I ain't a wheeler-dealer...f^ck off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 yeh, f'sure... ...wheeler-dealer, no I ain't a wheeler-dealer...f^ck off... Remember how hard he tried to get rid of Bale early on, now's he's touting him as one of, if not the, best player in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Remember how hard he tried to get rid of Bale early on, now's he's touting him as one of, if not the, best player in the world. He discovered Bale. He turned him into the player he is. He told us this himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redder freak Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Mark Hughes - perhaps we could do a swap with QPR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 He discovered Bale. He turned him into the player he is. He told us this himself. And discovered Walcott don't forget. In fact 'arry tipped Walcott for stardom whilst he was still a foetus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 He discovered Bale. He turned him into the player he is. He told us this himself. On many an occasion. Didn't get much playing time under 'Arry whilst here though if I recall correctly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/southampton-specials/next-permanent-manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Seriously, take the emotion out of it. Forget he was ever manager at Saints and imagine the situation with him, us and Pompey had been him, Ipwich and Norwich or Blackburn and Burnley. Imagine He had an identical record but managing those clubs instead of us and them. Can anyone honestly say there is a current manager, realistic and available that is better suited or able to establish us as premier league club again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Seriously, take the emotion out of it. Forget he was ever manager at Saints and imagine the situation with him, us and Pompey had been him, Ipwich and Norwich or Blackburn and Burnley. Imagine He had an identical record but managing those clubs instead of us and them. Can anyone honestly say there is a current manager, realistic and available that is better suited or able to establish us as premier league club again? Turkish we, as a club, were in a very similar situation last time he came to the one we are in now. Good attacking players but poor defenders. And he was absolutely hopeless. How is Harry going to suddenly get us defending better? How is he going to instill confidence in players when he has a track record of slagging them off in order to protect his own reputation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Can anyone honestly say there is a current manager, realistic and available that is better suited or able to establish us as premier league club again? Can anyone on this thread honestly say they are not taking the p!ss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 What Redknapp did last time is totally irrelevant to what he might do now. It was 7 years ago, he didn't want to be here from day one and he inherited a team which was in huge decline and beset by injuries to key players in Svenson and Oakley. I thought he'd keep us up but it's worth remembering the rot had already set in, I think we'd only won twice when he arrived and we looked a team destined for the drop. Since then he's turned Pompey who were relegation fodder when he went back into an FA Cup winning team and spurs form the bottom 3 into the champions league for the first even. As I've said a couple of times on this thread, with my Saints fan head on I don't want him anywhere near us, but thinking rationally I can't think of anyone better to establish us as a Premeir league club. Arguably the rot has already set in with this squad though but I do tend to agree with the overall point that you make. I am not sure even 'Arry would have the brassneck to come back again though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Turkish we, as a club, were in a very similar situation last time he came to the one we are in now. Good attacking players but poor defenders. And he was absolutely hopeless. How is Harry going to suddenly get us defending better? How is he going to instill confidence in players when he has a track record of slagging them off in order to protect his own reputation? When he went back to Portsmouth they looked certain to go down, they were in the relegation zone, only won 2 out of 15 and he kept them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Can anyone on this thread honestly say they are not taking the p!ss? Yep, i can. Name one who is better. Realistic and available, remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Yep, i can. Name one who is better. Realistic and available, remember. He won't be coming back. His face didn't fit first time and it don't fit now. Remember that Fratton performance? Remember the wink? Remember the whinging and whining about how useless the players were and compare and contrast with Adkins positivity. I'm not naming anyone. We've got a Manager. Adkins deserves a bit more respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Yep, i can. Name one who is better. Realistic and available, remember. Benitez. But i don't think we should be getting rid of Adkins. I think he's taking the blame when the responsibility lies with others in the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 He won't be coming back. His face didn't fit first time and it don't fit now. Remember that Fratton performance? Remember the wink? Remember the whinging and whining about how useless the players were and compare and contrast with Adkins positivity. I'm not naming anyone. We've got a Manager. Adkins deserves a bit more respect. I asked you to take the emotion out of it and name a manger who is available and realistic better suited and able to keep us up and establish us as a premier league club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 True but why would he want to be here now? It's only a few months ago he was in charge of a team which finished 4th and was touted as next England manager. Plus ( and I know it's not entirely his fault) the only way he managed to turn Portsmouth around was to attract players on huge huge wages who went on the eventually cripple the club. It wasn't down to his amazing managerial prowess. Redknapp is just a poor fit for us all round. Agreed his dog also has a foriegn bank account ( it is alleged)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Benitez Potentially maybe. Realistic? Who knows, he's managed clubs far bigger than Saints so the jury is out on if he'd want to come here. he doesn't have a track record of taking clubs from the bottom 3 into the top half of the table either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 I asked you to take the emotion out of it and name a manger who is available and realistic better suited and able to keep us up and establish us as a premier league club. He is not realistic. He hated working within the constraints set out by Rupert Lowe, imagine how he would cope under Cortese. Yes he would have more money but he would be asked to keep the tactical organisation of the first team matching the other levels of the club and work under a DOF. He wouldn't have it. And thank heavens for that. I would rather support a Saints team in the Championship that a Premiership club managed by that reprehensible individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Benitez. But i don't think we should be getting rid of Adkins. I think he's taking the blame when the responsibility lies with others in the club You added that after I replied and I agree with your comments 100% but Reed and Cortese won't be the fall guys, even though Reed certainly should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 He is not realistic. He hated working within the constraints set out by Rupert Lowe, imagine how he would cope under Cortese. Yes he would have more money but he would be asked to keep the tactical organisation of the first team matching the other levels of the club and work under a DOF. He wouldn't have it. And thank heavens for that. I would rather support a Saints team in the Championship that a Premiership club managed by that reprehensible individual. Again, you are thinking with your emotions Colin, not who is the best man for the job. Do are you suggesting he couldn't work under Cortese because he won't have full control of team affairs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Again, you are thinking with your emotions Colin, not who is the best man for the job. Only in the last line. My point prior is perfectly valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Again, you are thinking with your emotions Colin, not who is the best man for the job. Do are you suggesting he couldn't work under Cortese because he won't have full control of team affairs? But he isn't the best since he wouldn't accept the conditions of the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 you suggesting he couldn't work under Cortese because he won't have full control of team affairs? He has resigned from jobs before due to people trying to take his freedom and responsibility away. (The first time he left the Skates, West Ham) He will not work as a first team coach under Cortese and Reed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Only in the last line. My point prior is perfectly valid. Why do you think he'd struggle to work under Cortese? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 But he isn't the best since he wouldn't accept the conditions of the job. So we go for another yes man grateful to be here and will do as he's told and be the scape goat if and when it goes wrong? May as well stick with Adkins then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 So we go for another yes man grateful to be here and will do as he's told and be the scape goat if and when it goes wrong? Using your requirement of realistic, that is who we will look for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Using your requirement of realistic, that is who we will look for. Might we well keep Adkins then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 So we go for another yes man grateful to be here and will do as he's told and be the scape goat if and when it goes wrong? May as well stick with Adkins then. So do you reckon we will change the policy? I can't see it personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Personally I think it will be an Italian manager that replaces NA and if we lose on Sunday then I fear that will be that for NA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 I asked you to take the emotion out of it and name a manger who is available and realistic better suited and able to keep us up and establish us as a premier league club. Who do you think you are Bamber Gascoigne? Look there's no vacancy and no place for B@llocks Chops in the Saints set up. No emotion, just seems obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Well, it seems Hoddle could be coming back after a long absence. He could save the club as he would have done in 2004 but for the vocal minority. I would like to state now that I am still backing Adkins, but if Hoddle did come back and rescue the club I will have the mother of all bragging rights ! Ten years of them !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Might we well keep Adkins then. We should keep Adkins. He's a very good manager. What would we do with another manager if we were still the same after another 8 games? Keep the revolving door moving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 So do you reckon we will change the policy? I can't see it personally No, I don't think we will and unless we do i cant see an established proven manager like Redknapp or Bentiez coming here. If all we are going to do is sack Adkins and bring in another rookie it's be a totally pointless excercise. Personally I'd get rid of Reed, bring in an experienced manager as well and let him build a team that is going to keep us up first and them establish us as a premier league side. Then start worrying about 'the Southampton way' when we aren't trying to do it with players and a manager all in their first season in the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Who do you think you are Bamber Gascoigne? Look there's no vacancy and no place for B@llocks Chops in the Saints set up. No emotion, just seems obvious. So why are you read and posting on a thread about who is going to be the new Saints manager? Seems a bit odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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