Noodles34 Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Next Permanent Manager Outright Glenn Hoddle Odds 33/1 Stake 10.00 Potential Returns 340.00 I dont neccessarily want to see the back of NA, however i just feel that if it is done, the Hoddle should be the man to take over, and so i have put my money where my mouth is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Next Permanent Manager Outright Glenn Hoddle Odds 33/1 Stake 10.00 Potential Returns 340.00 I dont neccessarily want to see the back of NA, however i just feel that if it is done, the Hoddle should be the man to take over, and so i have put my money where my mouth is. Have you been converted by the Lord Davros?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Wow. I want to keep Adkins but accept there are a few managers, like David Moyes, who would be an upgrade. Hoddle doesn't even come close to being on that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/southampton-specials/next-permanent-manager Guardiola is only 66/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 One person stands out a mile..........Klinsman,on many levels,bold enough to make changes,invests in a youth set up........ On 26 July 2004, he returned to Germany as the new coach of the national team, succeeding former teammate and strike partner Rudi Völler. Klinsmann subsequently embarked on an aggressive program to revamp the management of the team. Bringing fellow German striker Oliver Bierhoff on board helped diffuse public relations duties of the previous combined post away from the actual coaching aspect of the position. Furthermore, he created a youth movement to breathe life into an aging squad on the heels of a disastrous showing at Euro 2004. In the run up to the 2006 World Cup, Klinsmann attracted criticism from German fans and the media following poor results, such as the 4–1 loss to Italy. A particular subject of criticism was that Klinsmann commuted to Germany from the United States, which was the target of a campaign by the "Bild" tabloid. It should be noted that Klinsmann had previously eliminated some privileges Bild traditionally had with the national team, such as receiving the team lineup the day before a match, and 24/7 exclusive access to the team. His largely offensive tactics have irritated some, who complain that he ignores defensive football. He announced a squad of young players for the 2006 World Cup, basing his selection policy on performance, not reputation. Klinsmann as manager of Germany in 2005 During the 2005 Confederations Cup, he regularly rotated his goalkeepers regardless of their performances, which drew the ire of Bayern Munich's Oliver Kahn. On 7 April 2006, Klinsmann finally decided to relegate Kahn to the bench and designated Arsenal's Jens Lehmann as his first choice goalkeeper. This choice followed Lehmann's performances in the 2006 Champions League in which his Arsenal team bowed out in the final against Barcelona. In the 2006 World Cup, the performances of Klinsmann's team silenced his critics. The team recorded three straight wins against Costa Rica, Poland and Ecuador in the first round, earning Germany first place in Group A. The first game of the knock out stage was a 2–0 victory over Sweden, and in the quarter-finals, Klinsmann's team defeated Argentina, winning 4–2 on penalties. The teams drew 1–1 after 120 minutes after an equalising goal from Miroslav Klose in the 80th minute.[20] In the semi-final on 4 July, Germany lost a close match with Italy 2–0 after goals in the final minutes of extra time from Fabio Grosso and Alessandro Del Piero.[21] After the match, Klinsmann praised the performance of his young team. They beat Portugal 3–1 in the third place play-off, where he played Kahn instead of Jens Lehmann.[22] The victory triggered a massive Berlin parade the following day where Klinsmann and the team were honoured by the public. Afterward, Franz Beckenbauer, previously a strident critic of Klinsmann's, declared his desire to see Klinsmann continue as coach. There was also widespread public support for Klinsmann due to his team's spirit and attacking style of play. The team's strong performance is thought by some to have renewed national pride and restored Germany's reputation as a top footballing nation. Due to his success coaching the national team, Klinsmann was awarded the Bundesverdienstkreuz. He was even referred to as "Kaiser", a term meaning "emperor" in German, usually reserved for German footballing greats, e.g. Franz Beckenbauer. Despite the highly acclaimed performance at the World Cup and the praise earned, Klinsmann declined to renew his contract, informing the DFB of his decision on 11 July 2006. The decision was officially announced by the DFB on 12 July 2006. Klinsmann's assistant Joachim Löw was appointed as the new head trainer at the same press conference.[23][24] Klinsmann said "My big wish is to go back to my family, to go back to leading a normal life with them ... After two years of putting in a lot of energy, I feel I lack the power and the strength to continue in the same way."[25] [edit]Bayern Munich In July 2008 Klinsmann took over as coach of Bayern Munich, succeeding Ottmar Hitzfeld.[26] Klinsmann helped design a new player development and performance center for Bayern and then launched into molding the team for the Bundesliga and UEFA Champions League campaigns. Under his guidance, Bayern reached the quarter final of the Champions League, losing to eventual champion FC Barcelona. Bayern’s record during the 2008/2009 UEFA Champions League was 6 wins, 3 draws, and 1 loss (to Barcelona). In the Bundesliga, Bayern was only 3 points off first place, with 5 matches to play, when Klinsmann was replaced as head coach due to a difference of opinion with the club’s Board of Directors. Bayern’s record under Klinsmann during the 2008/2009 Bundesliga season was 16 wins, 6 draws, and 7 losses.[27] [edit]United States Klinsmann as manager of the United States On 29 July 2011, Klinsmann was named head coach of the United States men's national soccer team making him the 35th coach in the history of the program.[28] On 29 February 2012, the U.S. national team recorded a historic 1–0 victory in a friendly match away against Italy. It was the first win against the four-time FIFA World Cup champion, stopping the 10-match winless streak against Italy dating back to 1934. The US also broke Italy's 20 game winning streak against all opponents at the Stadio Luigi Ferraris in Genoa.[29] On 15 August 2012, Klinsmann coached the United States to a historic win against long time rivals Mexico 1–0 in the Estadio Azteca, giving the USA their first victory over Mexico in the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Hoodle doesn't want management at the moment - He is enjoying his acadmey too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Next Permanent Manager Outright Glenn Hoddle Odds 33/1 Stake 10.00 Potential Returns 340.00 I dont neccessarily want to see the back of NA, however i just feel that if it is done, the Hoddle should be the man to take over, and so i have put my money where my mouth is. For the life of me I cannot work out why people keep on about Hoddle - he did a good job at The Dell years ago...was totally crap at Spurs and Wolves and had to set up his own academy because no-one else will employ him!! How many jobs have been available since Hoddle was booted out of Wolves? If he is that brilliant why has no-one touched him with a barge poll??? Can one of his supporters answer those questions as am baffled why you think he could replace Adkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 My money would be on Di Canio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simondo Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 bed wetters the lot of you - why not Kris Kamara then..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Hoodle doesn't want management at the moment - He is enjoying his acadmey too much Should we read anything into his personal preference:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 My money would be on Di Canio Very funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 My money would be on Di Canio Just doesn't make any sense though Jan (Just had some mates say the same thing) .... You would just be swapping one high potential manager with another. If Cortese does do anything surely the only reasoning wouldto be bring in someone with "top flight" experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 I wouldnt want him, dont particularly want Adkins to go, but I think there are a few whispers going around about him. We dont need a new manager we need a new defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Dalek to the main board please, Dalek to the main board. As crazy as it may sound there is only one man who I could see rising to our challenge if Adkins goes. Needs to be able to work with a controversial driven chairman, work to bring through youth in a set system into an attacking side and be able to tighten up the defence. #Braces himself# His name is Ian Holloway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 I would have thought Les Reed was a better bet if you wanted to go with the academy line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 23 October, 2012 Author Share Posted 23 October, 2012 dalek to the main board please, dalek to the main board. As crazy as it may sound there is only one man who i could see rising to our challenge if adkins goes. Needs to be able to work with a controversial driven chairman, work to bring through youth in a set system into an attacking side and be able to tighten up the defence. #braces himself# his name is ian holloway. are you having a laugh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 I wouldn't want Hoddle back until he sorts his barnet out. Looked terrible on Sky Sports the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 My money would be on Di Canio GIve it to me. I'll spend it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 I wouldnt want him, dont particularly want Adkins to go, but I think there are a few whispers going around about him. We dont need a new manager we need a new defence. With you on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Claudio Ranieri. FACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Next Permanent Manager Outright Glenn Hoddle Odds 33/1 Stake 10.00 Potential Returns 340.00 I dont neccessarily want to see the back of NA, however i just feel that if it is done, the Hoddle should be the man to take over, and so i have put my money where my mouth is. As the post is only for a Coach (as per Reed ) ...... who would want the job ?? We would end up with the New bloke in axactly the same position as the last Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 are you having a laugh? No. He has done a superb job at Blackpool with limited resources, created a team which is defensively organised and capable of tearing teams a new one going forward. Defensively at premier league level my point may fall a little but when you have a wage-cap of 10k a week in the top flight and take survival to the last day you are doing well. He has had to work with Karl Oyston, an exceptionally difficult chairman who I read as being a slightly similar character to Nicola Cortese (but with a little more dubious legality in the background.... allegedly) and has done an outstanding job managing his own boss. He has earned a chance at a bigger club..... and although we have had our differences (premier league, you're having a laugh.... he took that far too seriously) I see him as the only person out there who could fit into our current structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 23 October, 2012 Author Share Posted 23 October, 2012 not sure England have ever looked better (in recent times) than under Hoddle, could be said the same about us (exception of WGS) and of course he did some crap jobs elsewhere, but i feel that he would do the job here. Lets face it, Lowe should never have bottled it first time round, and we wouldnt have had that c Redknapp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Claudio Ranieri. FACT As I have said a few times on here, that I reckon Cortese has already lined someone up ...... that's a fair shouy IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 23 October, 2012 Author Share Posted 23 October, 2012 No. He has done a superb job at Blackpool with limited resources, created a team which is defensively organised and capable of tearing teams a new one going forward. Defensively at premier league level my point may fall a little but when you have a wage-cap of 10k a week in the top flight and take survival to the last day you are doing well. He has had to work with Karl Oyston, an exceptionally difficult chairman who I read as being a slightly similar character to Nicola Cortese (but with a little more dubious legality in the background.... allegedly) and has done an outstanding job managing his own boss. He has earned a chance at a bigger club..... and although we have had our differences (premier league, you're having a laugh.... he took that far too seriously) I see him as the only person out there who could fit into our current structure. whoooosh, that one went over your head son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 (edited) whoooosh, that one went over your head son. Ok, with you now. Just reacting to my own expectations of a negative reaction because the guy can come over as a bit of a **** at times. I do believe he would be an excellent appointment. Edited 23 October, 2012 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 The OP has just wasted a tenner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 There is a guy down the road called Appleton who is apparently on everybody's radar at the moment ! Used to managing a top (massive?) club ! Worth a punt, eh ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 23 October, 2012 Author Share Posted 23 October, 2012 The OP has just wasted a tenner. dont worry mate, i am fcking loaded anyway, once my SRL bet pays out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed demon Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Thats exactly the sort of person it will be IMO. I've always felt that when we are up NC will want a manager with pedigree/history or known throughout Europe, CR fits that bill. I've also feel that NA knows this. I'd go as far as to say that even if we were 10th, I don't think NA will be here long term, nothing I've seen has given me reason to change that view. It won't be Bagpuss, Hoddle, Di Canio, Holloway, it will be someone like Ranieri IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Thats exactly the sort of person it will be IMO. I've always felt that when we are up NC will want a manager with pedigree/history or known throughout Europe, CR fits that bill. I've also feel that NA knows this. I'd go as far as to say that even if we were 10th, I don't think NA will be here long term, nothing I've seen has given me reason to change that view. It won't be Bagpuss, Hoddle, Di Canio, Holloway, it will be someone like Ranieri IMO. Ranieri is doing a fine old job at Monaco, no doubt he is handsomely rewarded for his efforts by their Russian owner as well. Can't see him turning that in to sign on for Saints TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 There is a guy down the road called Appleton who is apparently on everybody's radar at the moment ! Used to managing a top (massive?) club ! Worth a punt, eh ? He would never leave the "best supporters in the world"tm especially now when they are on the verge of something fantastic!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 dont worry mate, i am fcking loaded anyway, once my SRL bet pays out! Should have put more down then, 340 sheets is peanuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 dalek to the main board please, dalek to the main board. As crazy as it may sound there is only one man who i could see rising to our challenge if adkins goes. Needs to be able to work with a controversial driven chairman, work to bring through youth in a set system into an attacking side and be able to tighten up the defence. #braces himself# his name is ian holloway. gtfo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncoboy Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 gtfo Crusty the clown for me, Isn't ken Hoddle dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Klinsmann as manager of the United States On 29 July 2011, Klinsmann was named head coach of the United States men's national soccer team making him the 35th coach in the history of the program.[28] On 29 February 2012, the U.S. national team recorded a historic 1–0 victory in a friendly match away against Italy. It was the first win against the four-time FIFA World Cup champion, stopping the 10-match winless streak against Italy dating back to 1934. The US also broke Italy's 20 game winning streak against all opponents at the Stadio Luigi Ferraris in Genoa.[29] On 15 August 2012, Klinsmann coached the United States to a historic win against long time rivals Mexico 1–0 in the Estadio Azteca, giving the USA their first victory over Mexico in the stadium. And who stuggled to beat Antigua & Barbuda. Mind you they did have the mighty Dexter Blackstock: http://www.goal.com/en-ca/match/72575/antigua-barbuda-vs-usa/report Basically, no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 And who stuggled to beat Antigua & Barbuda. Mind you they did have the mighty Dexter Blackstock: http://www.goal.com/en-ca/match/72575/antigua-barbuda-vs-usa/report Basically, no thanks. but also beat italy...so yes please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 but also beat italy...so yes please So did England, doesn't mean we want Roy Hodgson at the helm..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 So did England, doesn't mean we want Roy Hodgson at the helm..... I would love that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 GIve it to me. I'll spend it for you. But his daughter goes to Southampton Uni so that makes it almost a done deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 My choices...should it happen... Ranieri Benitez (I wish) Holloway Poyet Di Canio Coyle Arry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 But his daughter goes to Southampton Uni so that makes it almost a done deal. It's certainly one of the questions at the top of Corteses interview list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 So did England, doesn't mean we want Roy Hodgson at the helm..... Only a Saints fan would consider that Roy Hodgson is not a good enough manager for this club. Bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 My choices...should it happen... Ranieri Benitez (I wish) Holloway Poyet Di Canio Coyle Arry Ranieri or Bentiez would be brilliant. Laurent Blanc or Slavan Bilic would be good if we are going foreign. All 4 are a bit optimistic but lets see if Cortese walks the walk. If we are going current British based then i cant see past Redknapp. With my saints fan head on i say no way. With my common sense head on i say he's the best man for the job short term. He'll establish us in the premier league, bring in some decent players and for a short term fix then he is the only choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Ranieri or Bentiez would be brilliant. Laurent Blanc or Slavan Bilic would be good if we are going foreign. All 4 are a bit optimistic but lets see if Cortese walks the walk. If we are going current British based then i cant see past Redknapp. With my saints fan head on i say no way. With my common sense head on i say he's the best man for the job short term. He'll establish us in the premier league, bring in some decent players and for a short term fix then he is the only choice. I would not say no to arry....as there would be no way he would let what happened last time happen again and in no way would have another relegation on his CV as he will probably be the next england manager.......if he came, he would make sure we stayed up and did ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokingFun Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 My choices...should it happen... Ranieri Benitez (I wish) Holloway Poyet Di Canio Coyle Arry OK, I understand why you might want Ranieri, Benitez or even Redknapp but what have the others done to earn any credibility that puts them above what we already have? I'm interested to understand why you think any of the others might be an improvement on a man that has achieved at least as much as them and has made said achievements with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 OK, I understand why you might want Ranieri, Benitez or even Redknapp but what have the others done to earn any credibility that puts them above what we already have? I'm interested to understand why you think any of the others might be an improvement on a man that has achieved at least as much as them and has made said achievements with us. as what we have is going to take us down right now......we did well last time taking an up and coming...if you get me....but as it stands, we are going down without a fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 I would not say no to arry....as there would be no way he would let what happened last time happen again and in no way would have another relegation on his CV as he will probably be the next england manager.......if he came, he would make sure we stayed up and did ok Quite. Seriously and im being serious for a minute, we have tried to change too much too early. The players won promotion playing a certain way, they are used to playing that way and we dont have the players to play 4-3-3 at the moment. We've thrown in a manager and a team with hardly any top flight experience, torn up what they are good at and been successful and told them "this is how its going to be from now on" adapt to the premier league, adapt to the new way of playing and be quick about it. Change should have been gradual, we should have established ourselves as a premier league club first, then worried about making sure we stay there and progress by doing it "the Southampton way". If Adkins is the fall guy then it's a huge shame and if he goes i want an experienced man brought in like i mentioned above, be allowed to do things his way, get us established for a couple of seasons, then and only then is even all this copying Barcelona and so on even viable and thinkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 Quite. Seriously and im being serious for a minute, we have tried to change too much too early. The players won promotion playing a certain way, they are used to playing that way and we dont have the players to play 4-3-3 at the moment. We've thrown in a manager and a team with hardly any top flight experience, torn up what they are good at and been successful and told them "this is how its going to be from now on" Change should have been gradual, we should have established ourselves as a premier league club first, then worried about making sure we stay there and progress by doing it "the Southampton way". If Adkins is the fall guy then it's a huge shame and if he goes i want an experienced man brought in like i mentioned above, be allowed to do things his way, get us established for a couple of seasons, then and only then is even all this copying Barcelona and so on even viable and thinkable. trouble is....many will go nuts if arry came back....literally...and would make it known at SMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 October, 2012 Share Posted 23 October, 2012 trouble is....many will go nuts if arry came back....literally...and would make it known at SMS Couldn't blame them to be honest. As i said, as a Saints fan, no way. Thinking rationally, he is the only man for the job based in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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