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I hope that he's playing against us, as I don't rate him. Neither does my glory hunter Spurs fan brother-in-law.

 

Obviously he would act as a back-up to the far superior defenders we already have. In fact, they're doing such a good job I don't know why we're being linked with a poor CB that has played Premier League football for one of the best sides in the countries in recent years and has represented England.

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I hope that he's playing against us, as I don't rate him. Neither does my glory hunter Spurs fan brother-in-law.

 

Good lord.

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By who?

 

That same journo. His DM on Twitter:

 

"Pretty high from what I've heard. He wants a new challenge and Saints is certainly that. Top player and would sort a big problem out."

 

Also, according to him, some BIG news to come out at some point during the week and not good news either. He cant let it out yet but will tell me at somepoint when it does. He does however go on to say it's not all bad news down here though.

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Obviously he would act as a back-up to the far superior defenders we already have. In fact, they're doing such a good job I don't know why we're being linked with a poor CB that has played Premier League football for one of the best sides in the countries in recent years and has represented England.

 

Recently injury prone and lacking the extra yard of pace as a result. He might well be better than our current lot, but that is not to say that we couldn't do better than him, is it? He's hardly made their starting line-up this season, so not currently deemed good enough for Spurs.

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That same journo. His DM on Twitter:

 

"Pretty high from what I've heard. He wants a new challenge and Saints is certainly that. Top player and would sort a big problem out."

 

Also, according to him, some BIG news to come out at some point during the week and not good news either. He cant let it out yet but will tell me at somepoint when it does. He does however go on to say it's not all bad news down here though.

 

Bad news?? has it got anything to do with a missing spoon?

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That same journo. His DM on Twitter:

 

"Pretty high from what I've heard. He wants a new challenge and Saints is certainly that. Top player and would sort a big problem out."

 

Also, according to him, some BIG news to come out at some point during the week and not good news either. He cant let it out yet but will tell me at somepoint when it does. He does however go on to say it's not all bad news down here though.

 

That can surely only mean one thing.

 

So, who is the new guy then?

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Bad news?? has it got anything to do with a missing spoon?

 

I'm not taking what he says as gospel as he is hardly an Alan Nixon, has a man on the inside, type of journo with pretty solid news but will be interesting to see what he has heard.

 

With regards to Dawson, would be a top top signing but like many others, I just feel the lure of wages from someone like QPR will be more attractive than us but we'll see come January.

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Can't help feeling if we are hovering around the relegation zone come january we won't look as appealing as we did in the summer to a lot of potential signings...

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I hope that he's playing against us, as I don't rate him. Neither does my glory hunter Spurs fan brother-in-law.

 

Are you having a laugh? What as fans, do we want exactly? Pique? Ramos?

 

I mean, come on. Dawson for us would be a bloody big coup, and he would be an enormous upgrade on anything we have.

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Are you having a laugh? What as fans, do we want exactly? Pique? Ramos?

 

I mean, come on. Dawson for us would be a bloody big coup, and he would be an enormous upgrade on anything we have.

 

So the fact that he's been injury prone recently and consequently short of a yard of pace is a total irrelevance then? As stated, he's not currently in the Spurs first choice, so no need to get sarky suggesting that I think that only somebody of Pique's or Ramos' quality would do.

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So the fact that he's been injury prone recently and consequently short of a yard of pace is a total irrelevance then? As stated, he's not currently in the Spurs first choice, so no need to get sarky suggesting that I think that only somebody of Pique's or Ramos' quality would do.

 

Who would you prefer over him then?

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So the fact that he's been injury prone recently and consequently short of a yard of pace is a total irrelevance then? As stated, he's not currently in the Spurs first choice, so no need to get sarky suggesting that I think that only somebody of Pique's or Ramos' quality would do.

 

He is actually Spurs captain. Shows how high AVB rates him! Just not fully fit at the moment. Would easily get in ahead of Caulker or Gallas when ready.

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Recently injury prone and lacking the extra yard of pace as a result. He might well be better than our current lot, but that is not to say that we couldn't do better than him, is it? He's hardly made their starting line-up this season, so not currently deemed good enough for Spurs.

 

Look, we're sh*t we would be very lucky to get him on board the bus. We really probably cant do better than him if we are being realistic. Given our league position and performances, joining us is more or less expetcing to go down bar a massive upturn of results before january!

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Look, we're sh*t we would be very lucky to get him on board the bus. We really probably cant do better than him if we are being realistic. Given our league position and performances, joining us is more or less expetcing to go down bar a massive upturn of results before january!

 

So one opinion says that when he's fully fit, he'd be first on the team sheet in Spurs' defence, so presumably he won't then be available to us. But if he isn't fully fit, then I wouldn't want him here.

 

We can't do better than him, apparently, although we were able to get a top player like Ramirez from under the noses of other illustrious teams. I don't really see why we can't repeat the exercise with a defender.

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Recently injury prone and lacking the extra yard of pace as a result. He might well be better than our current lot, but that is not to say that we couldn't do better than him, is it? He's hardly made their starting line-up this season, so not currently deemed good enough for Spurs.

 

LOL!

 

You're right, we should only be looking to sign players good enough for Spurs. I wonder if that Moutinho fancies a move to us? Then again, is he better than what we've got? I doubt it.

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So one opinion says that when he's fully fit, he'd be first on the team sheet in Spurs' defence, so presumably he won't then be available to us. But if he isn't fully fit, then I wouldn't want him here.

 

We can't do better than him, apparently, although we were able to get a top player like Ramirez from under the noses of other illustrious teams. I don't really see why we can't repeat the exercise with a defender.

 

Nobody else was in for Ramirez this summer. Spurs had a sniff around and the Liverpool interest was from when King Kenny was there. Inter and Roma were linked last season but not this year.

 

Also, with us being well and truly embroiled in a relegation battle (yes it's early but we've all seen now our squad isn't up to it) it will be even harder to attract someone. Why come here for potentially 6 months Premiership football when no doubt more established Premiership clubs will be after them as well?

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@journo_slash on Twitter reckons Adkins would like to bring him to SMS in January. That's assuming Adders himself is still here' date=' of course...[/quote']

 

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I bet if we were linked with Messi the focus would be on a perceived lack of defensive work rate....

 

Didn't Messi get injured once? I swear they started him on the bench in a CL game this season as well.

 

On that basis, I don't want us signing a player whose always injured and struggles to make the Barca team.

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Tottenham have currently got Kaboul, Vertonghen, Gallas, Caulker and Dawson on their books.

 

All five are infinitely better than anything else we have at centre back.

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Nobody else was in for Ramirez this summer. Spurs had a sniff around and the Liverpool interest was from when King Kenny was there. Inter and Roma were linked last season but not this year.

 

Also, with us being well and truly embroiled in a relegation battle (yes it's early but we've all seen now our squad isn't up to it) it will be even harder to attract someone. Why come here for potentially 6 months Premiership football when no doubt more established Premiership clubs will be after them as well?

 

So the entire squad isn't up to it? I thought it was just our defence. It's worse than I thought.

 

So nobody was interested in Ramirez apart from Spurs, Liverpool, Roma and Inter, but they weren't really interested in him. So who's interested in Dawson? QPR?

 

Just because some people are creaming themselves over Dawson, doesn't mean that everybody shares that opinion. Others are entitled to have a contrary opinion on him without being ridiculed.

 

And already before the end of October people are predicting that we will be relegation certainties, so nobody will want to come here, regardless of what they might be offered in pay, because they will want to go to other Premiership teams who might be reasonably well positioned at the start of January, but who might decline thereafter. There has been plenty of precedent historically of teams being in the relegation zone in the New Year and surviving, but also the contrary position of teams looking to be OK then, but doing a nose dive afterwards.

 

So tell me, how many positions in the Premiership teams' defences will be available and how many defenders from around the World wil be available to fill them? I'd hazard a guess that the latter far exceed the former. But of course, no good getting in a Spanish or Italian defender, as they probably won't have any Premiership experience, so it only has to be a player currently playing at this level here now, eh?

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But of course, no good getting in a Spanish or Italian defender, as they probably won't have any Premiership experience, so it only has to be a player currently playing at this level here now, eh?

 

Yes.

 

Gary Neville did a very good, in-depth piece on the lack of leadership and Premiership experience at the heart of Arsenal's defence the other week. Whilst obviously on a lower level, it bore a remarkable resemblance to our current problems.

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Oh good, another crock.

 

You're not going to get away with that, WG, without being hammered for not understanding that he was once a World Class player and that if you didn't want him, you'd probably turn your nose up at Messi playing at CB too, or something along those lines.

Posted
I think if we got him, and also went for Enrique the Liverpool LB we may have a chance of staying up.

 

I'd be surprised if we have a cats hells chance in signing Enrique.

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You're not going to get away with that, WG, without being hammered for not understanding that he was once a World Class player and that if you didn't want him, you'd probably turn your nose up at Messi playing at CB too, or something along those lines.

 

He's a good player but ankle, achilles, knee problems over the last couple of seasons doesn't look good. There's a reason he's not playing.

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He's a good player but ankle, achilles, knee problems over the last couple of seasons doesn't look good. There's a reason he's not playing.

 

But to be honest, even a half-fit, 1 legged Dawson is better than anything we have at present! A 6 month loan is a no brainer if available.

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Yes.

 

Gary Neville did a very good, in-depth piece on the lack of leadership and Premiership experience at the heart of Arsenal's defence the other week. Whilst obviously on a lower level, it bore a remarkable resemblance to our current problems.

 

Defense is arguably the only position where age and being British are worth something. The need for premiership experience is probably less important for all other positions.

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We can't do better than him, apparently, although we were able to get a top player like Ramirez from under the noses of other illustrious teams. I don't really see why we can't repeat the exercise with a defender.

 

 

No one else was trying to get Ramirez this summer. We were the only game in town.

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I'd be surprised if we have a cats hells chance in signing Enrique.

 

Unlikely I know. I really rate him. Fantastic at Newcastle and initially at Liverpool. Seems down the pecking order at Liverpool now. Think I read that Rodgers was considering playing Downing at LB, so it seems his days are numbered. As you say not much chance of it happening.

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