Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 @journo_slash on Twitter reckons Adkins would like to bring him to SMS in January. That's assuming Adders himself is still here, of course...
Colinjb Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 Of course we would like him, whether he would like us is another matter entirely....
corky morris Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 He is a quality player when fit. Problem is, is that he is not fit often enough!!
Hatch Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 with one leg he is probably better than our current lot
beatlesaint Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 He is a quality player when fit. Problem is, is that he is not fit often enough!! that sounds familiar
Saint Garrett Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 Would be a top signing, believe it when I see it though,.
This Charming Man Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 He's a proven, quality CB. There is no way we would be interested in him based on that criteria.
Wes Tender Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 I hope that he's playing against us, as I don't rate him. Neither does my glory hunter Spurs fan brother-in-law.
iansums Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 Could he be the player that was mentioned in another thread? Deal agreed, only for the other club to pull out at the last minute.
This Charming Man Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 I hope that he's playing against us, as I don't rate him. Neither does my glory hunter Spurs fan brother-in-law. Obviously he would act as a back-up to the far superior defenders we already have. In fact, they're doing such a good job I don't know why we're being linked with a poor CB that has played Premier League football for one of the best sides in the countries in recent years and has represented England.
Appy Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 I hope that he's playing against us, as I don't rate him. Neither does my glory hunter Spurs fan brother-in-law. Good lord.
itchen_dan Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 Been told theres a very high chance of this happening as he wants a new challenge.
Turkish Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 Been told theres a very high chance of this happening as he wants a new challenge. By who?
itchen_dan Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 (edited) By who? That same journo. His DM on Twitter: "Pretty high from what I've heard. He wants a new challenge and Saints is certainly that. Top player and would sort a big problem out." Also, according to him, some BIG news to come out at some point during the week and not good news either. He cant let it out yet but will tell me at somepoint when it does. He does however go on to say it's not all bad news down here though. Edited 22 October, 2012 by itchen_dan
Wes Tender Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 Obviously he would act as a back-up to the far superior defenders we already have. In fact, they're doing such a good job I don't know why we're being linked with a poor CB that has played Premier League football for one of the best sides in the countries in recent years and has represented England. Recently injury prone and lacking the extra yard of pace as a result. He might well be better than our current lot, but that is not to say that we couldn't do better than him, is it? He's hardly made their starting line-up this season, so not currently deemed good enough for Spurs.
Turkish Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 That same journo. His DM on Twitter: "Pretty high from what I've heard. He wants a new challenge and Saints is certainly that. Top player and would sort a big problem out." Also, according to him, some BIG news to come out at some point during the week and not good news either. He cant let it out yet but will tell me at somepoint when it does. He does however go on to say it's not all bad news down here though. Bad news?? has it got anything to do with a missing spoon?
MOSaint Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 Certainly a million miles better than we currently have.
Colinjb Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 That same journo. His DM on Twitter: "Pretty high from what I've heard. He wants a new challenge and Saints is certainly that. Top player and would sort a big problem out." Also, according to him, some BIG news to come out at some point during the week and not good news either. He cant let it out yet but will tell me at somepoint when it does. He does however go on to say it's not all bad news down here though. That can surely only mean one thing. So, who is the new guy then?
itchen_dan Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 Bad news?? has it got anything to do with a missing spoon? I'm not taking what he says as gospel as he is hardly an Alan Nixon, has a man on the inside, type of journo with pretty solid news but will be interesting to see what he has heard. With regards to Dawson, would be a top top signing but like many others, I just feel the lure of wages from someone like QPR will be more attractive than us but we'll see come January.
doddisalegend Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 (edited) Can't help feeling if we are hovering around the relegation zone come january we won't look as appealing as we did in the summer to a lot of potential signings... Edited 22 October, 2012 by doddisalegend
Bucks Saint Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 would be a top quality signing but will not happen. Wages. The appeal of being in a very poor team. Would prefer to stay in London. in that order
S-Clarke Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 I hope that he's playing against us, as I don't rate him. Neither does my glory hunter Spurs fan brother-in-law. Are you having a laugh? What as fans, do we want exactly? Pique? Ramos? I mean, come on. Dawson for us would be a bloody big coup, and he would be an enormous upgrade on anything we have.
Wes Tender Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 Are you having a laugh? What as fans, do we want exactly? Pique? Ramos? I mean, come on. Dawson for us would be a bloody big coup, and he would be an enormous upgrade on anything we have. So the fact that he's been injury prone recently and consequently short of a yard of pace is a total irrelevance then? As stated, he's not currently in the Spurs first choice, so no need to get sarky suggesting that I think that only somebody of Pique's or Ramos' quality would do.
S-Clarke Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 So the fact that he's been injury prone recently and consequently short of a yard of pace is a total irrelevance then? As stated, he's not currently in the Spurs first choice, so no need to get sarky suggesting that I think that only somebody of Pique's or Ramos' quality would do. Who would you prefer over him then?
itchen_dan Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 So the fact that he's been injury prone recently and consequently short of a yard of pace is a total irrelevance then? As stated, he's not currently in the Spurs first choice, so no need to get sarky suggesting that I think that only somebody of Pique's or Ramos' quality would do. He is actually Spurs captain. Shows how high AVB rates him! Just not fully fit at the moment. Would easily get in ahead of Caulker or Gallas when ready.
lloydie Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 Recently injury prone and lacking the extra yard of pace as a result. He might well be better than our current lot, but that is not to say that we couldn't do better than him, is it? He's hardly made their starting line-up this season, so not currently deemed good enough for Spurs. Look, we're sh*t we would be very lucky to get him on board the bus. We really probably cant do better than him if we are being realistic. Given our league position and performances, joining us is more or less expetcing to go down bar a massive upturn of results before january!
Wes Tender Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 Look, we're sh*t we would be very lucky to get him on board the bus. We really probably cant do better than him if we are being realistic. Given our league position and performances, joining us is more or less expetcing to go down bar a massive upturn of results before january! So one opinion says that when he's fully fit, he'd be first on the team sheet in Spurs' defence, so presumably he won't then be available to us. But if he isn't fully fit, then I wouldn't want him here. We can't do better than him, apparently, although we were able to get a top player like Ramirez from under the noses of other illustrious teams. I don't really see why we can't repeat the exercise with a defender.
This Charming Man Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 Recently injury prone and lacking the extra yard of pace as a result. He might well be better than our current lot, but that is not to say that we couldn't do better than him, is it? He's hardly made their starting line-up this season, so not currently deemed good enough for Spurs. LOL! You're right, we should only be looking to sign players good enough for Spurs. I wonder if that Moutinho fancies a move to us? Then again, is he better than what we've got? I doubt it.
Colinjb Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 I bet if we were linked with Messi the focus would be on a perceived lack of defensive work rate....
This Charming Man Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 So one opinion says that when he's fully fit, he'd be first on the team sheet in Spurs' defence, so presumably he won't then be available to us. But if he isn't fully fit, then I wouldn't want him here. We can't do better than him, apparently, although we were able to get a top player like Ramirez from under the noses of other illustrious teams. I don't really see why we can't repeat the exercise with a defender. Nobody else was in for Ramirez this summer. Spurs had a sniff around and the Liverpool interest was from when King Kenny was there. Inter and Roma were linked last season but not this year. Also, with us being well and truly embroiled in a relegation battle (yes it's early but we've all seen now our squad isn't up to it) it will be even harder to attract someone. Why come here for potentially 6 months Premiership football when no doubt more established Premiership clubs will be after them as well?
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doddisalegend Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 I bet if we were linked with Messi the focus would be on a perceived lack of defensive work rate.... Not as good as Lallana..............need to sign better than we've got:)
This Charming Man Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 I bet if we were linked with Messi the focus would be on a perceived lack of defensive work rate.... Didn't Messi get injured once? I swear they started him on the bench in a CL game this season as well. On that basis, I don't want us signing a player whose always injured and struggles to make the Barca team.
The Kraken Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 Tottenham have currently got Kaboul, Vertonghen, Gallas, Caulker and Dawson on their books. All five are infinitely better than anything else we have at centre back.
Wes Tender Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 Nobody else was in for Ramirez this summer. Spurs had a sniff around and the Liverpool interest was from when King Kenny was there. Inter and Roma were linked last season but not this year. Also, with us being well and truly embroiled in a relegation battle (yes it's early but we've all seen now our squad isn't up to it) it will be even harder to attract someone. Why come here for potentially 6 months Premiership football when no doubt more established Premiership clubs will be after them as well? So the entire squad isn't up to it? I thought it was just our defence. It's worse than I thought. So nobody was interested in Ramirez apart from Spurs, Liverpool, Roma and Inter, but they weren't really interested in him. So who's interested in Dawson? QPR? Just because some people are creaming themselves over Dawson, doesn't mean that everybody shares that opinion. Others are entitled to have a contrary opinion on him without being ridiculed. And already before the end of October people are predicting that we will be relegation certainties, so nobody will want to come here, regardless of what they might be offered in pay, because they will want to go to other Premiership teams who might be reasonably well positioned at the start of January, but who might decline thereafter. There has been plenty of precedent historically of teams being in the relegation zone in the New Year and surviving, but also the contrary position of teams looking to be OK then, but doing a nose dive afterwards. So tell me, how many positions in the Premiership teams' defences will be available and how many defenders from around the World wil be available to fill them? I'd hazard a guess that the latter far exceed the former. But of course, no good getting in a Spanish or Italian defender, as they probably won't have any Premiership experience, so it only has to be a player currently playing at this level here now, eh?
This Charming Man Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 But of course, no good getting in a Spanish or Italian defender, as they probably won't have any Premiership experience, so it only has to be a player currently playing at this level here now, eh? Yes. Gary Neville did a very good, in-depth piece on the lack of leadership and Premiership experience at the heart of Arsenal's defence the other week. Whilst obviously on a lower level, it bore a remarkable resemblance to our current problems.
saint_bert Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 I think if we got him, and also went for Enrique the Liverpool LB we may have a chance of staying up.
Wes Tender Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 Oh good, another crock. You're not going to get away with that, WG, without being hammered for not understanding that he was once a World Class player and that if you didn't want him, you'd probably turn your nose up at Messi playing at CB too, or something along those lines.
S-Clarke Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 I think if we got him, and also went for Enrique the Liverpool LB we may have a chance of staying up. I'd be surprised if we have a cats hells chance in signing Enrique.
Whitey Grandad Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 You're not going to get away with that, WG, without being hammered for not understanding that he was once a World Class player and that if you didn't want him, you'd probably turn your nose up at Messi playing at CB too, or something along those lines. He's a good player but ankle, achilles, knee problems over the last couple of seasons doesn't look good. There's a reason he's not playing.
S-Clarke Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 He's a good player but ankle, achilles, knee problems over the last couple of seasons doesn't look good. There's a reason he's not playing. But to be honest, even a half-fit, 1 legged Dawson is better than anything we have at present! A 6 month loan is a no brainer if available.
shurlock Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 Yes. Gary Neville did a very good, in-depth piece on the lack of leadership and Premiership experience at the heart of Arsenal's defence the other week. Whilst obviously on a lower level, it bore a remarkable resemblance to our current problems. Defense is arguably the only position where age and being British are worth something. The need for premiership experience is probably less important for all other positions.
laughba Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 Far too expensive. Would be great tho, QPR put a 9mil bid in the summer, which was accepted however failed to agree personal terms.
Turkish Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 Les has really lost it. Even his usual sneering, belittling style cannot cover his stupidity on this one.
CB Fry Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 We can't do better than him, apparently, although we were able to get a top player like Ramirez from under the noses of other illustrious teams. I don't really see why we can't repeat the exercise with a defender. No one else was trying to get Ramirez this summer. We were the only game in town.
saint_bert Posted 22 October, 2012 Posted 22 October, 2012 I'd be surprised if we have a cats hells chance in signing Enrique. Unlikely I know. I really rate him. Fantastic at Newcastle and initially at Liverpool. Seems down the pecking order at Liverpool now. Think I read that Rodgers was considering playing Downing at LB, so it seems his days are numbered. As you say not much chance of it happening.
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