bowers-sfc Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 my mate was speaking to a players dad today, who is really close to danny fox. So ive been told, its not an injury it is just fox being dropped. said something about a bust up as well, and danny fox is far from happy. Just thought id pass it on.
hypochondriac Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 Well Fox has been rubbish so he only has himself to blame.
Saint_lambden Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 This doesn't surprise me. If you believe Adkins - Fox has had about 3 separate injuries so far this season.
RobM Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 Funny how injuries seem more common when things aren't going well at a club. Funny also how injuries never seem a huge problem when you're flying.
pingwing Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 Fox isn't bigger than the club. He also isn't really prem material but I guess that is a side show now.
Nigel=God-Poyet=Sod Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 Fox is a defender but can't defend, therefore rubbish and therefore can get lost for all I care.
rshephard3 Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 Fox is a defender but can't defend, therefore rubbish and therefore can get lost for all I care. This
Pilchards Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 Fox & Hos have been our worse players by far, dropped? ****ing right he should as he's not fit to wear the shirt no more. I don't believe for a 2nd Gazza was dropped and I expect to see him back soon.
the saint in winchester Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 Most of us agree it was foolish to let Harding go .. don't we??? I would get Dickson match fit then as we are going to need him. Should have bought Liam Ridgewell. (sigh)
Saint_clark Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 Most of us agree it was foolish to let Harding go .. don't we??? I would get Dickson match fit then as we are going to need him. Should have bought Liam Ridgewell. (sigh) Two players of real Prem quality. [/sarcasm] Fox would have been much better than Yoshida at LB today. If he has been dropped after a decent showing V Fulham and solid international appearances, I'm not surprised he's a bit miffed.
The Kraken Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 Fox not happy. Good. He can do one. Yes, that's a wise move. Let's get rid of our only left back; that'll sort everything out. As today proved, our immense defence can easily sort themselves out without a left full back. And Yoshi was flawless there today, he did nothing wrong. Idiot.
rick1976.4.38 Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 fox has a groin problem,said so himself on soccer am a couple of weeks ago that needs an injection,just maybe it hasnt cleared up
The Kraken Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 fox has a groin problem,said so himself on soccer am a couple of weeks ago that needs an injection,just maybe it hasnt cleared up It cleared itself up to allow him to play for Scotland. Maybe the injection ran out.
Dig Dig Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 Hope the dressing room isn't dropping, as soon as that happens, we're ****ed.
rick1976.4.38 Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 It cleared itself up to allow him to play for Scotland. Maybe the injection ran out. or maybe hes had a reaction to it again and the groin problem has come back,if hes been dropped its probably a fair decision as hes not played that well,mind you he doesnt get much help from adam or whoever plays on the left
Wade Garrett Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 Hope the dressing room isn't dropping, as soon as that happens, we're ****ed. That's the impression I get.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 Wouldn't be surprised if he's had a bust up with other players. They must be pretty p!ssed off at how many goals he's cost us.
Thedelldays Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 Hope the dressing room isn't dropping, as soon as that happens, we're ****ed. It's gone mate. As soon as we concede its all over. You could see it yesterday
S-Clarke Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 Hope the dressing room isn't dropping, as soon as that happens, we're ****ed. It's hard to keep a dressing room when you lose every week, heavily. I could very much imagine that there are unhappy players which can sometimes create divides. It's down to the captain to help sort that though, but I look at Lallana and I don't see a captain. I would imagine the likes of Dickson and SDR are rightly ****ed off, seeing as that they're not allowed to go on loan.
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 To be fair with out fox and ramirez we are fair less dangerous from set pieces. For a team like us set pieces will prove invaluable even when team not playing well as proved last week. Fox wouldn't have done any worse than yoshida yesterday that's for sure. 2nd and 4th goals he was at fault for.
S-Clarke Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 To be fair with out fox and ramirez we are fair less dangerous from set pieces. For a team like us set pieces will prove invaluable even when team not playing well as proved last week. Fox wouldn't have done any worse than yoshida yesterday that's for sure. 2nd and 4th goals he was at fault for. Shocking by Yoshida for the 2nd goal, so poor. But he's not a full back, and really shouldn't be playing there. It's so frustrating because over the last few years we've always had a competitive squad, 2 good LB's, 2 good right backs etc. But we're lopsided. I fear a lot of hope was put into the youth players over the summer (Chambers, Shaw, Stephens) which is why we possibly didn't push as hard as we should have for additions. But we're now at the point where it's clear that those players aren't quite ready yet.
alpine_saint Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 Fox not happy. Good. He can do one. This. Agree with Hypo too.
The Kraken Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 This. Agree with Hypo too. Really? And play with who instead?
Window Cleaner Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 (edited) Really? And play with who instead? I believe that some are still labouring under the illusion that Luke Shaw is a ready made Prem Class stand in for Fox, when he isn't injured that is. He's not, takes more than some newspaper talk about a 4 million transfer to make a good player. Saint's academy produces midfielders and the odd striker, it no longer produces defenders. Who was the last academy CB to really make the grade ? Baird would that be?? Ah yes Garry Monk perhaps, a player we had no time for but who Swansea seemed to get some mileage out of. We get the raw materials OK cos we had Matt Mills and Williamson, don't think we know what to do with it though. Edited 21 October, 2012 by Window Cleaner
The Kraken Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 Is Shaw still injured? He played for the development side last week; a 4-2 defeat to Spurs. And looked poor.
letissisgod Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 Curious bit of info regarding Danny Fox, His house in Bournemouth has had a "To Let" sign outside it for the last couple of weeks.
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 Most of us agree it was foolish to let Harding go .. don't we??? No we don't
RonManager Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 No we don't Oh come on, don't you remember the petition, the ballot, the march? Anyway, more importantly, why did you give up the old lion taming game?
Graffito Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 I can't believe Adkins would prefer to play a right footed CB at left back rather than a specialist left back, albeit he hasn't been in the best of form recently, especially with another right footer in front of him.
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 Oh come on, don't you remember the petition, the ballot, the march? Anyway, more importantly, why did you give up the old lion taming game? Pension benefits weren't good enough
kpturner Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 It's gone mate. As soon as we concede its all over. You could see it yesterday I was there and I didn't see that. We were the better team at 0-2 and 1-2 - it certainly wasn't all over as soon as we conceded. It was the penalty that was the killer. It wasn't "all over" when we conceded late on to Fulham either. So I cannot see your point at all.
Thedelldays Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 I was there and I didn't see that. We were the better team at 0-2 and 1-2 - it certainly wasn't all over as soon as we conceded. It was the penalty that was the killer. It wasn't "all over" when we conceded late on to Fulham either. So I cannot see your point at all. well, it was over...we were never going to win the game...and we never (which is a fact)
kpturner Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 well, it was over...we were never going to win the game...and we never (which is a fact) Could you rephrase that in something resembling English? That aside, you were clearly trying to imply that as soon as we concede "it's all over" because there is no spirit in the dressing room. This is clearly not "a fact".
Thedelldays Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 Could you rephrase that in something resembling English? That aside, you were clearly trying to imply that as soon as we concede "it's all over" because there is no spirit in the dressing room. This is clearly not "a fact". when we went 1-0 down..or even 2-0...IMO that was that..game over...maybe not technically as the game was still going but the points (imo) were decided...and that was right
Webby Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 Yes, that's a wise move. Let's get rid of our only left back; that'll sort everything out. As today proved, our immense defence can easily sort themselves out without a left full back. And Yoshi was flawless there today, he did nothing wrong. Idiot. Thanks kraken. I don't rate him and never have, certainly at this level, but I'm not suggesting we never play him again. I'm just saying that long term, I'd be happy for him to go, with a superior replacement of course. I thought Clyne did ok on the left with Richardson on the right so there is that option. Fyi, I backed you on a post you were getting digs for recently. Ho hum.
Greenridge Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 Really? And play with who instead? Adkins rates him so much he tried to get a replacement during the summer and has been happy to play the right-back there instead of a fit specialist left-back.
kpturner Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 when we went 1-0 down..or even 2-0...IMO that was that..game over...maybe not technically as the game was still going but the points (imo) were decided...and that was rightI guess you must have been one of the many who walked out when we conceded against Fulham then?
captainchris Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 Two players of real Prem quality. [/sarcasm] Fox would have been much better than Yoshida at LB today. If he has been dropped after a decent showing V Fulham and solid international appearances, I'm not surprised he's a bit miffed. His international appearances were rubbish so what the hell are you on about ! Also he has been nothing short of rubbish for us this year. He can shut up and face facts he's not good enough!!!
The Kraken Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 Adkins rates him so much he tried to get a replacement during the summer and has been happy to play the right-back there instead of a fit specialist left-back. Yes, but we don't have a spare right back available to do that right now. There really isn't a viable alternative as a replacement to Fox at the moment; other than the reserve full backs we do have available.
The Kraken Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 Thanks kraken. I don't rate him and never have, certainly at this level, but I'm not suggesting we never play him again. I'm just saying that long term, I'd be happy for him to go, with a superior replacement of course. I thought Clyne did ok on the left with Richardson on the right so there is that option. Fyi, I backed you on a post you were getting digs for recently. Ho hum. Apologies That's what happens when I decide its a good idea to login after an evening out drinking
Special K Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 His dead ball delivery has always been, and continues to be, excellent. He get's caught out of position too often for a defender, but as he enjoys getting forward, why not play him in midfield? Just a thought. i know it would leave us without a recognised left back, but if the club spend on one in January, i think Foxy could fill a role in midfield - good engine, like getting up the flank and can deliver a cross. He just doesn't defend well for a defender.
The Kraken Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 His dead ball delivery has always been, and continues to be, excellent. He get's caught out of position too often for a defender, but as he enjoys getting forward, why not play him in midfield? Just a thought. i know it would leave us without a recognised left back, but if the club spend on one in January, i think Foxy could fill a role in midfield - good engine, like getting up the flank and can deliver a cross. He just doesn't defend well for a defender. He'd be a good choice for when we played against better sides away from home and need to be a bit more disciplined and defensively solid.
Forester Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 Fox is good going forward, including set pieces. But he has never closed down a wide man and prevented a cross from coming in - he just does not think as a defender naturally does. We got a away with that in the championship when teams don't punish you.
SuperMikey Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 I can't believe Adkins would prefer to play a right footed CB at left back rather than a specialist left back, albeit he hasn't been in the best of form recently, especially with another right footer in front of him. Yoshida can play with both feet, as can Clyne. Besides, Harding did well for us when he was filling in at RB and he is very much a left-footed player. I imagine our #1 priorities in Jan will be a LB and a CB from the Prem. But who?
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 Two players of real Prem quality. [/sarcasm] Fox would have been much better than Yoshida at LB today. If he has been dropped after a decent showing V Fulham and solid international appearances, I'm not surprised he's a bit miffed. Yep agree with this - Fox is a better back than Yoshida, in fact the forgotten man Dickson is probably better too, but Fox and Dickson's faces do not fit....with someone.
RobM Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 Yep agree with this - Fox is a better back than Yoshida, in fact the forgotten man Dickson is probably better too, but Fox and Dickson's faces do not fit....with someone. Who?
ludgershallsaint Posted 21 October, 2012 Posted 21 October, 2012 Harding did well for us when he was filling in at RB and he is very much a left-footed player. Not sure about that one . More than a little revisionist.
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