NA's reaction..

[Wade Garrett]

I agree. The cracking goal we scored was also before Lambert was on the pitch, and when he did come on he didn't seem to do much, although I had a very dodgy stream. Does nobody consider that NA is trying to protect his player through a long and tough season, when his age and body type is against him in the recovery and fitness stakes (I should know).. I think others have pointed out Rooney and other top stars don't start every game. Plus when he gets injured we'll be without him anyway and we need to be able to cope.

 

Criticise the manager if you must (starting Boruc?), but we ended up chasing a game where we had been quite comfortable, the better team indeed, even if not particularly pentetrating. It wasn't the Saints fans who were unhappy at half-time.

 

Judging by the hysteria on here it would seem nothing the manager did was right, FFS.

 

Drop Lambert, because if he gets injured we will need to be able to cope without him. Genius. Saints fans might not have been unhappy at half-time, but who cares. The Hammers were certainly happy at full-time.

We seem to do ok in the first half of games, but a couple of changes in tactics by the opposition in the second half and we are done for.

[LostBoys]

The only thing to come out of this thread is that the Club seriously underestimated the standard of defender you now need in the Prem. I am happy with Clyne but you will get mistakes from him but we need two more quality players and I do not know where we are going to get them from until January.

[Turkish]

Drop Lambert, because if he gets injured we will need to be able to cope without him. Genius. Saints fans might not have been unhappy at half-time, but who cares. The Hammers were certainly happy at full-time.

We seem to do ok in the first half of games, but a couple of changes in tactics by the opposition in the second half and we are done for.

 

Apart from at Arsenal, Everton and home to Villa. I get your point though. The rigid 4-3-3 process means when make a couple of tweaks we can't respond as has happened in the last 2 games.

 

Soccerball genius again from Suzy though like you say, drop Lambert in case he gets injured and we have to play without him and if only games finished at half time then we'd have been happy.

[Thedelldays]

Of we can't play lambert incase he gets injured. When can we play him

 

 

I have heard some horse shyt on here. Some of it from me. But this is a beauty

[alpine_saint]

We've just had an international break; how much more rest does he need?

 

Yep, sue's point is codswallop.

[alpine_saint]

Of we can't play lambert incase he gets injured. When can we play him

 

 

I have heard some horse shyt on here. Some of it from me. But this is a beauty

 

Jesus, who said that ??

[Turkish]

Jesus, who said that ??

 

Sue. One of the reasons to give him a rest as he's just come off an International break.

[alpine_saint]

Sue. One of the reasons to give him a rest as he's just come off an International break.

 

Ah, OK, it was one point of utter drivel. I thought it was two separate points.

[Turkish]

Ah, OK, it was one point of utter drivel. I thought it was two separate points.

 

Still at least she won't get to see us saying is was drivel as in case you didn't know she's got us on ignore, it's not like she's ever mentioned it.

[St. Jason]

http://bigadamsport.blogspot.co.uk/

 

I think..

 

Just read that blog, very interesting & scary!!!!

 

There wasn't many lads up our pub yesterday singing NA's praises, general opinion was "time to go" but what's the point in that if all the decisions are made above him?

 

The last 2 years he's proved he's a good manager, NC needs to let go, let the manager manage, let him pick the team, the tactics etc. as NA says he "lives & dies" by decisions, lets hope it's his decisions!!

[SaintRichmond]

The only thing to come out of this thread is that the Club seriously underestimated the standard of defender you now need in the Prem. I am happy with Clyne but you will get mistakes from him but we need two more quality players and I do not know where we are going to get them from until January.

 

Very apt, the Club's failure to address what was globally known to be the most important area to strengthen will come back to haunt them, because, come January, no Quality Defender will want to come to a Relegation certainty

[Wes Tender]

Very apt, the Club's failure to address what was globally known to be the most important area to strengthen will come back to haunt them, because, come January, no Quality Defender will want to come to a Relegation certainty

I seem to recall that in the opinion of one of our most respected and knowledgeable posters that players are like supermarket workers, who will switch jobs for an extra £ an hour.

 

If we pay enough, we will get the players we want. In any event, no team is a relegation certainty in early January. Players of the quality we need in defence ought to have enough belief in themselves that they could make the difference anyway.

[SaintRichmond]

So Reed and Cortese are to blame then?

 

 

(A) Reed is to blame

 

(B) Cortese is doubly to blame for being brainwashed as to how wonderful Reed is

 

....... but exactly HOW did it happen ??

[Puddings and Monkeys]

Just read that blog, very interesting & scary!!!!

 

There wasn't many lads up our pub yesterday singing NA's praises, general opinion was "time to go" but what's the point in that if all the decisions are made above him?

 

The last 2 years he's proved he's a good manager, NC needs to let go, let the manager manage, let him pick the team, the tactics etc. as NA says he "lives & dies" by decisions, lets hope it's his decisions!!

 

Was Cortese interfering during the last 2 seasons when we were doing really well or has he just started now we're in the prem? No, he is doing what he has always done which is to let Adkins manage. Although it doesn't suit many people's agendas, I doubt that Cortese/Adkins are operating any differently than they have done since Adkins joined; you know, the period when we got back-to-back promotions. The only difference is the quality of opposition and our inability to sign the defenders we wanted in the summer.

[Turkish]

Was Cortese interfering during the last 2 seasons when we were doing really well or has he just started now we're in the prem? No, he is doing what he has always done which is to let Adkins manage. Although it doesn't suit many people's agendas, I doubt that Cortese/Adkins are operating any differently than they have done since Adkins joined; you know, the period when we got back-to-back promotions. The only difference is the quality of opposition and our inability to sign the defenders we wanted in the summer.

 

And you know this do you?

 

People go on about agendas and so on as an easy kop out for not facing up to reality. The reality that we are a different proposition to last season. We seem intent of playing the same way regardless of how well it's

Going, something we didn't do last season.

[Puddings and Monkeys]

And you know this do you?

 

People go on about agendas and so on as an easy kop out for not facing up to reality. The reality that we are a different proposition to last season. We seem intent of playing the same way regardless of how well it's

Going, something we didn't do last season.

 

The reality is our defence is crap because we didn't strengthen it sufficiently in the summer - they aren't up to the task; out of their depth - this much is clear. It really is that simple; no conspiracy theories, no interfering, no plots to get HR in etc. We can debate how we got into this mess, but claims of Cortese picking the team etc are unfounded and unproven. All this garbage only comes out when things aren't going well. Why has Cortese suddenly started doing a Lowe (allegedly) and meddling with the team now we are in the Prem - no one can answer that and prove that he is with any facts.

[St. Jason]

Was Cortese interfering during the last 2 seasons when we were doing really well or has he just started now we're in the prem? No, he is doing what he has always done which is to let Adkins manage. Although it doesn't suit many people's agendas, I doubt that Cortese/Adkins are operating any differently than they have done since Adkins joined; you know, the period when we got back-to-back promotions. The only difference is the quality of opposition and our inability to sign the defenders we wanted in the summer.

 

Was Cortese interfering during the last 2 seasons when we were doing really well or has he just started now we're in the prem? No, he is doing what he has always done which is to let Adkins manage. Although it doesn't suit many people's agendas, I doubt that Cortese/Adkins are operating any differently than they have done since Adkins joined; you know, the period when we got back-to-back promotions. The only difference is the quality of opposition and our inability to sign the defenders we wanted in the summer.

 

Why, when anyone dares to question things, are the questioners labeled as having "an agenda"?

Why can't I or whoever simply be concered about the team I love & supports failings?

 

So everyone that questions NC is wrong, the chap (blackmore?) raised his fears back in August, he's wrong?

MLT has questioned NC, he's wrong?

The programme sellers are wrong?

The chap who's had his stall closed is wrong?

The fans that moaned about having their corporate seats changed are wrong?

The newspapers that refused to pay for saints media are wrong?

In fact everyone is wrong except NC because........he saved our club!!!!

 

I agree NC has been better for the club than worse, but that does not excuse him from criticism, at least it shouldn't anyway!

If this is all down to NA then he should be judged by it. In that case his team is failing, his transfer activity has been poor, he identified the defence to be strengthened and actually made it weaker! He signed so many forwards we actually had to let a recent signing go out on loan!

 

Yes NA deserves massive credit for the last 2 season, but if your praising the good, you must also crtitisise the bad, surely???

[SaintRichmond]

Err Adkins said himself yesterday Jamie 'we will play 4-3-3'

 

You haven't explained why a manager known as successful for switching tactics wold now suddenly only stick to one formation, one that isn't working and has lead to us having the worst defence in premier league history at this strange.

 

 

You miss a vital point. Adkins is NOT our Manager, he is only a Coach ( Reed )

 

To any neutral, I think it's blindingly obvious that Adkins is working to instructions from above, and, because Adkins is only a "coach", I think the rotten apple is Reed, who has the ear of Cortese

 

In 8 Prem matches, Adkins has been portrayed as going ftom one of the best young Managers, to being totally inept in the Prem

 

IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE ......... You don't go from good to bad in that short space of time

 

As I said before, It's just like asking Usain Bolt to wear Wellies, and still clock 9.9 secs

 

Something has not been quite right at SMS for some time, you could sense it

 

I now think that Cortese will be stupid enough to get rid of Adkins, whilst the festering sore will still be there, advising Cortese on how to continue our spiral back to the CCC

 

Anyone younger on here care to start a petition ??

[alpine_saint]

Still at least she won't get to see us saying is was drivel as in case you didn't know she's got us on ignore, it's not like she's ever mentioned it.

 

LOL. What we need is some nice volunteer to quote us. Really, what she came out with is such utter b*ll*cks it deserves the uptmost ridicule.

[alpine_saint]

Just read that blog, very interesting & scary!!!!

 

There wasn't many lads up our pub yesterday singing NA's praises, general opinion was "time to go" but what's the point in that if all the decisions are made above him?

 

The last 2 years he's proved he's a good manager, NC needs to let go, let the manager manage, let him pick the team, the tactics etc. as NA says he "lives & dies" by decisions, lets hope it's his decisions!!

 

Then the simple fact of the matter is that our management structure no longer works, and something has to be changed.

 

And it wont be NC.

 

FWIW, I agree with Puddings and Monkeys - NC aint stupid, if it aint broke dont fix it, so I find it hard to believe he has suddenly started interfering this year after 2 seasons of highly successful partnership and trust. I consider the rumours about NC doing to NA what Lowe did to Poortvillet to be much more likely caused by people who have a grudge with NC, like paying parking when you collect your ST

 

*now where do I find that classic picture????

[corky morris]

Completely agree.

 

Why, when anyone dares to question things, are the questioners labeled as having "an agenda"?

Why can't I or whoever simply be concered about the team I love & supports failings?

 

So everyone that questions NC is wrong, the chap (blackmore?) raised his fears back in August, he's wrong?

MLT has questioned NC, he's wrong?

The programme sellers are wrong?

The chap who's had his stall closed is wrong?

The fans that moaned about having their corporate seats changed are wrong?

The newspapers that refused to pay for saints media are wrong?

In fact everyone is wrong except NC because........he saved our club!!!!

 

I agree NC has been better for the club than worse, but that does not excuse him from criticism, at least it shouldn't anyway!

If this is all down to NA then he should be judged by it. In that case his team is failing, his transfer activity has been poor, he identified the defence to be strengthened and actually made it weaker! He signed so many forwards we actually had to let a recent signing go out on loan!

 

Yes NA deserves massive credit for the last 2 season, but if your praising the good, you must also crtitisise the bad, surely???

[Puddings and Monkeys]

Why, when anyone dares to question things, are the questioners labeled as having "an agenda"?

Why can't I or whoever simply be concered about the team I love & supports failings?

 

So everyone that questions NC is wrong, the chap (blackmore?) raised his fears back in August, he's wrong?

MLT has questioned NC, he's wrong?

The programme sellers are wrong?

The chap who's had his stall closed is wrong?

The fans that moaned about having their corporate seats changed are wrong?

The newspapers that refused to pay for saints media are wrong?

In fact everyone is wrong except NC because........he saved our club!!!!

 

I agree NC has been better for the club than worse, but that does not excuse him from criticism, at least it shouldn't anyway!

If this is all down to NA then he should be judged by it. In that case his team is failing, his transfer activity has been poor, he identified the defence to be strengthened and actually made it weaker! He signed so many forwards we actually had to let a recent signing go out on loan!

 

Yes NA deserves massive credit for the last 2 season, but if your praising the good, you must also crtitisise the bad, surely???

 

Not trying to exempt Cortese from criticism at all - for example, he/we beleived we had signed a current international CB in the summer for a fee in excess of the Ramirez money (this comes first hand from a member of the coaching team). At the last minute his club pulled out - we didn't have a back-up plan in place - that was Cortese's fault, no one elses. However, to say that all our current problems are down to Cortese starting to meddle with team affairs is just wrong and has no basis in truth. We're all concerned about how we're doing at the moment but it's no more complicated than we messed up our defensive signings in the summer and are now paying the penalty. A back 4 of Clyne, Yoshida, international CB that pulled out at the last minute and Butner (we thought we had him too) is a huge step up from what we're turning out now. Jack Cork back in the middle with Ramirez would have made a massive difference. That's all I can post today - not having a go at you, I just think it's much simpler than many people are trying to make out.

[derry]

I just hope the tail isn't wagging the dog. Reed at League level has an abysmal and limited experience of management, it is inconceivable that his influence should trump Adkins. Adkins is the successful manager here and from the outside it looks like the predictable has happened somebody has been promoted way beyond their abilities. Youth development, yes, first team squad, no way.

[derry]

Having said that, if that is the case, Adkins should either walk or just go ahead and do it his way and confront the problem if there is one. Although I know why Pardew went suddenly and it wasn't this, there were the same stories going round then that Pardew was doing it his way in spite of others and there was confliction rumoured with the development side.

[SaintRichmond]

I just hope the tail isn't wagging the dog. Reed at League level has an abysmal and limited experience of management, it is inconceivable that his influence should trump Adkins. Adkins is the successful manager here and from the outside it looks like the predictable has happened somebody has been promoted way beyond their abilities. Youth development, yes, first team squad, no way.

 

 

OK, so can someone please tell Cortese ???

 

I have long held the belief that Reeds influence has grown out of all proportion, and is heading towards us losing a VERY VERY good Manager

 

Yes Reed ... MANAGER .... something you never were any good at ...... Manure Agitation yes, Manager no

[alpine_saint]

Having said that, if that is the case, Adkins should either walk or just go ahead and do it his way and confront the problem if there is one.

 

This. He cant do the job NC (allegedly) expects of him, so he should do what he can and be damned for it. If NC is forcing 433 to accomodate Gaston, he should do it immediately in order to get some results ahead of Gaston coming back. If we then hold up the results with Gaston present, then great. If we dont, he can point this out to NC.

[SaintRichmond]

This. He cant do the job NC (allegedly) expects of him, so he should do what he can and be damned for it. If NC is forcing 433 to accomodate Gaston, he should do it immediately in order to get some results ahead of Gaston coming back. If we then hold up the results with Gaston present, then great. If we dont, he can point this out to NC.

 

If that is the case, then Cortese really has got it wrong, because, if, as at present, Gaston is out injured, how can Cortese expect the system to work, if the very player bought to accomodate that system, is not in the team to actually make it work ?

[alpine_saint]

If that is the case, then Cortese really has got it wrong, because, if, as at present, Gaston is out injured, how can Cortese expect the system to work, if the very player bought to accomodate that system, is not in the team to actually make it work ?

 

Well, that was the point I was trying to make. I am not convinced we can play 433 with Gaston anyway.

[SaintRichmond]

Well, that was the point I was trying to make. I am not convinced we can play 433 with Gaston anyway.

 

 

You could well be right, but why the rigidity of "having " to play 4-3-3 just because of one player. From what I've seen of him, I think Ramirez has enough natural ability to play in most systems

 

Besides, "flexibility" is surely the key word, you surely don't go blindly on even if it's not working

 

(Unless you want to emulate the Charge of the Light Brigade ........ they knew all the guns were there, but their "stiff upper lip " Generals still ordered the charge )

 

Perhaps someone should remind Cortese of the outcome ........ then he could mount Reed on the lead horse

[alpine_saint]

You could well be right, but why the rigidity of "having " to play 4-3-3 just because of one player. From what I've seen of him, I think Ramirez has enough natural ability to play in most systems

 

Besides, "flexibility" is surely the key word, you surely don't go blindly on even if it's not working

 

(Unless you want to emulate the Charge of the Light Brigade ........ they knew all the guns were there, but their "stiff upper lip " Generals still ordered the charge )

 

Perhaps someone should remind Cortese of the outcome ........ then he could mount Reed on the lead horse

 

But the message coming out of SMS and NA is that we are playing 433. Period. Therefore it is a message of distinct and unequivocal inflexibility. Seems they think we dont need to be flexible.

[once_bitterne]

OK, so can someone please tell Cortese ???

 

I have long held the belief that Reeds influence has grown out of all proportion, and is heading towards us losing a VERY VERY good Manager

 

Yes Reed ... MANAGER .... something you never were any good at ...... Manure Agitation yes, Manager no

 

Is he a very good manager tho? I would say no. He's a Championship level at best manager. We did amazingly well to go up last season but this was pretty much as we were flat track bullies beating the weaker teams in the division. Whenever the big games came up Adkins inveriably came out 2nd best. Boro away, Leicester home, Reading home, etc.

 

This seems to be the pattern this season where every game is against a 'big team'.

[once_bitterne]

Is he a very good manager tho? I would say no. He's a Championship level at best manager. We did amazingly well to go up last season but this was pretty much as we were flat track bullies beating the weaker teams in the division. Whenever the big games came up Adkins inveriably came out 2nd best. Boro away, Leicester home, Reading home, etc.

 

This seems to be the pattern this season where every game is against a 'big team'.

 

p.s. we were very lucky that our final game came against Cov last season, if he had played a team with something left to play for we would have been f'ked!

[SaintRichmond]

But the message coming out of SMS and NA is that we are playing 433. Period. Therefore it is a message of distinct and unequivocal inflexibility. Seems they think we dont need to be flexible.

 

History has shown, that in many instances, IN-flexible things COLLAPSE

[alpine_saint]

Is he a very good manager tho? I would say no. He's a Championship level at best manager. We did amazingly well to go up last season but this was pretty much as we were flat track bullies beating the weaker teams in the division. Whenever the big games came up Adkins inveriably came out 2nd best. Boro away, Leicester home, Reading home, etc.

 

This seems to be the pattern this season where every game is against a 'big team'.

 

Hard to argue against this.

[derry]

433 is a great way to play but not with most of this squad. They are either not clever enough, not strong enough or quick enough or mobile enough in some cases a combination. That is why 442 ish is better for them as they are more comfortable, also it doesn't need much thought to play that way.

[Wes Tender]

p.s. we were very lucky that our final game came against Cov last season, if he had played a team with something left to play for we would have been f'ked!

 

So Coventry didn't have their pride to play for then? They didn't have anything resting on the result, so could play without inhibitions, could they not?

 

And I just love these speculative opinions. The fixture list is published at the beginning of the season and the run in at the end of last season meant that we were where we were having played all your so-called stronger teams earlier.

 

No doubt if somebody dared to suggest that had we started this season not having had to play three of the top teams within the first 4 matches that we would have been mid-table, they would be told to stop spouting nonsense.

 

So stop spouting nonsense about our last match last season. And your argument about us invariably coming off second best against the big teams is also rubbish too, as we took 4 points off West Ham, beat Brighton 3-0, took 4 points off Birmingham, 6 off Leeds, etc. One could equally make a case that we tended in typical Saints fashion to play reasonably well against the decent teams and throw it away against the bottom teams.

[SaintRichmond]

433 is a great way to play but not with most of this squad. They are either not clever enough, not strong enough or quick enough or mobile enough in some cases a combination. That is why 442 ish is better for them as they are more comfortable, also it doesn't need much thought to play that way.

 

Agreed .... You know it, I know it, many many others know

 

So, why doesn't ADKINS know it

 

Being Bloody minded is no way for us

 

Can't Adkins SEE that it is not working ?? If he can't, then he is a fool ...... The League positions do not lie

[once_bitterne]

So Coventry didn't have their pride to play for then? They didn't have anything resting on the result, so could play without inhibitions, could they not?

 

And I just love these speculative opinions. The fixture list is published at the beginning of the season and the run in at the end of last season meant that we were where we were having played all your so-called stronger teams earlier.

 

No doubt if somebody dared to suggest that had we started this season not having had to play three of the top teams within the first 4 matches that we would have been mid-table, they would be told to stop spouting nonsense.

 

So stop spouting nonsense about our last match last season. And your argument about us invariably coming off second best against the big teams is also rubbish too, as we took 4 points off West Ham, beat Brighton 3-0, took 4 points off Birmingham, 6 off Leeds, etc. One could equally make a case that we tended in typical Saints fashion to play reasonably well against the decent teams and throw it away against the bottom teams.

 

He's destined to go down in the annals of Saints history on the same page as Sturrock, Redknapp Wigely and Gray. Not as good as Branfoot and Jones (who were able to cope at PL level, well they never got us relegated did they?) but better than Pearson, Portvleet, Woote and Gormless George the drunken Scotsman.

[Wes Tender]

He's destined to go down in the annals of Saints history on the same page as Sturrock, Redknapp Wigely and Gray. Not as good as Branfoot and Jones (who were able to cope at PL level, well they never got us relegated did they?) but better than Pearson, Portvleet, Woote and Gormless George the drunken Scotsman.

 

Thank God then that you're never likely to be writing any historical literature regarding Saint's managers, as it wasn't that difficult to dismiss your opinion about us being lucky that we played Coventry for our last game last season. A major requirement for anybody wishing to be taken seriously as a historian, is the ability to have an overall perspective for the relevant period. Unless Adkins is sacked almost right away, the perspective of him as a Premiership manager will be a period much longer than 8 matches and I suspect that when comparing him with those others you bracket him with, account will also be taken of the two successive promotions in his CV with us, which wasn't achieved by them.

 

Presumably from your perspective, he's a better Premiership manager than Redknapp, until such times as he gets us relegated.

[Roger]

He's destined to go down in the annals of Saints history on the same page as Sturrock, Redknapp Wigely and Gray. Not as good as Branfoot and Jones (who were able to cope at PL level, well they never got us relegated did they?) but better than Pearson, Portvleet, Woote and Gormless George the drunken Scotsman.

 

Now I've got doubts over Adkins at mo but to say he's not as good as jones or branfoot? He's got us promoted two seasons in a row. Pearson would be much higher than the Dutch clowns too. Much higher than Wigley and Gray. Don't overdo it.

[alpine_saint]

He's destined to go down in the annals of Saints history on the same page as Sturrock, Redknapp Wigely and Gray.

 

Thats just plain ridiculous. He did deliver back-to-back promotions. He just isnt good enough for this level. He's still a superb Championship-level manager and will walk straight into a job in the NPC.

[SaintRichmond]

Thats just plain ridiculous. He did deliver back-to-back promotions. He just isnt good enough for this level. He's still a superb Championship-level manager and will walk straight into a job in the NPC.

 

 

With respect ......... I reckon that, if he is allowed to do things HIS way, with NO interference from anybody, then he WILL be a good Prem Manager

 

Unfortunately, I am convinced that he is being hamstrung by "others", and whilst that R'sole will remain in the background, Adkins will be made Scapegoat for that sad person's sabotage tactics

 

It' about time Cortese saw through it

[Turkish]

With respect ......... I reckon that, if he is allowed to do things HIS way, with NO interference from anybody, then he WILL be a good Prem Manager

 

Unfortunately, I am convinced that he is being hamstrung by "others", and whilst that R'sole will remain in the background, Adkins will be made Scapegoat for that sad person's sabotage tactics

 

It' about time Cortese saw through it

 

Yep, i tend to agree with that. Although i must say some of his player selection has been baffling recently.

[Greenridge]

Yep, i tend to agree with that. Although i must say some of his player selection has been baffling recently.

 

Assuming they are his selections.....

[alpine_saint]

assuming they are his selections.....

 

ffs.

[Greenridge]

That adds to the debate alpine. Can I take it you dismiss this concept in it's entirety?

[Wade Garrett]

If this were true (which I'm really not sure about), then I would actually have less respect for Adkins. He should stand up for himself, and play how the side how he wants to. Or, he should walk. If it's true and he's happy with it, then he's a fool.

 

A lot of ifs there. Personally, If he is being played he should stand up to his bosses, or walk and get his contract paid up (constructive dismissal-not being able to do his job properly). He doesn't strike me as spineless, he proved that when he refused to resign as S****horpe manager when we wanted him. If he walked, he would easily find decent work elsewhere. If he doesn't, is he just here for the money?

[alpine_saint]

That adds to the debate alpine. Can I take it you dismiss this concept in it's entirety?

 

Yes. NC may have screwed up the transfer activity by himself or by paying too much attention to Les Reed, but picking the team ?

 

Come on, get a grip.

[SaintRichmond]

ffs.

 

 

Why "ffs"

 

Don't tell me you think all is Peaches and Cream at SMS ??

 

Don't tell me that all the "wierd" Team Selections, and "strange" tactics that have wrested defeat from certain victory, are all Adkin's work ??

 

Don't tell me you think Adkins has gone from "Very Good" after TWO Back to Back promotions, to being the "pits" after 8 Prem matches ??

 

Don't tell me ......... you should have gone to Specsavers ??

 

I will not forget Reed's "Adkins is just a Coach" comment .... Sums it all up really

[alpine_saint]

If this were true (which I'm really not sure about), then I would actually have less respect for Adkins. He should stand up for himself, and play how the side how he wants to. Or, he should walk. If it's true and he's happy with it, then he's a fool.

 

 

This.