RobM Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 "We've got a process in place that we're doing our best to adhere to, but you've got to win games of football." I wonder how NC would react if Adkins led us to a few game winning streak, but ignored this system to get the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 How many prospective managers will be aware of 'The Process'? IF such a thing is true? I'm not doubting you but is this all rumour? Every club has an MD or CEO that wants to run the show but it is surely up to a strong manager to kick him into the office. It is true as Adkins said so himself yesterday 'we have a process at this club we are doing or best to adhere to' so either Adkins is a liar or he is simply adhering to the process that he has been told to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 It is true as Adkins said so himself yesterday 'we have a process at this club we are doing or best to adhere to' so either Adkins is a liar or he is simply adhering to the process that he has been told to follow. you say he has been told too...how do you know that he was not instrumental behind it...how do you know that he sat down will all concerned and fully signed up to the approach..and as such, lives and dies by it...? but you want to get your teeth into NC and Reed and totallt blame them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 It is true as Adkins said so himself yesterday 'we have a process at this club we are doing or best to adhere to' so either Adkins is a liar or he is simply adhering to the process that he has been told to follow. Been told to or agreed to? Sent from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 (edited) you say he has been told too...how do you know that he was not instrumental behind it...how do you know that he sat down will all concerned and fully signed up to the approach..and as such, lives and dies by it...? but you want to get your teeth into NC and Reed and totallt blame them Adkins was known and very successful for adapting tactics and changing tactics last season to suit the opposition and it got us two promotions. Now he is sticking with 4-3-3 regardless of the opposition, regardless of the players available and regardless of the success of it. Please explain why a manager would have a complete change in his ethos that has worked so well in the past and stick with stick with something that isn't working, when for the last two seasons when a tactic hasn't worked he'd changed it, sometimes during games. Why change philosophy? Why change what has been successful? Of course, it's just me having a pop at the chairman isnt it. Edited 21 October, 2012 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 Stop shouting Turkish down everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 Stop shouting Turkish down everybody. Sorry. I didn`t realise that he was such a delicate soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 Turkish: We didn't play 4-3-3 against Fulham, who made that decision? Also, who made the decision to change the formation mid-game the times we have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 Adkins was known and very successful for adapting tactics and changing tactics last season to suit the opposition and it got us two promotions. Now he is sticking with 4-3-3 regardless of the opposition, regardless of the players available and regardless of the success of it. Please explain why a manager would have a complete change in his ethos that has worked so well in the past and stick with stick with something that isn't working, when for the last two seasons when a tactic hasn't worked he'd changed it, sometimes during games. Why change philosophy? Why change what has been successful? Of course, it's just me having a pop at the chairman isnt it. are you saying we have not tried anything different this season....from the starting formation to in game changes..? who is to say adkins always wanted to play 433...but knew in the football league that 442 rules generally..... who is to say that he is or was the driving force behind the 433 club policy...maybe he actually thinks he is good enough to pull it off.....after all, why wouldnt he think he a good enough to pull it off after the last few years...? maybe that is a posibility..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 Adkins was known and very successful for adapting tactics and changing tactics last season to suit the opposition and it got us two promotions. Now he is sticking with 4-3-3 regardless of the opposition, regardless of the players available and regardless of the success of it. Please explain why a manager would have a complete change in his ethos that has worked so well in the past and stick with stick with something that isn't working, when for the last two seasons when a tactic hasn't worked he'd changed it, sometimes during games. Why change philosophy? Why change what has been successful? Of course, it's just me having a pop at the chairman isnt it. I wonder how telling the quote from NA is, "There is a vision at the club of passing the ball etc". Is he under orders of how the team should play or am I seeing demons that are not there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 (edited) you say he has been told too...how do you know that he was not instrumental behind it...how do you know that he sat down will all concerned and fully signed up to the approach..and as such, lives and dies by it...? but you want to get your teeth into NC and Reed and totallt blame them This is the point. We have had all of the "Southampton Way" and the using Barca as a model stuff. I am sure that NA and NC would have sat down and agreed a model going forward and been prepared to stick to it and not panic short term whilst establishing it. IMHO, I cannot believe that NA isthe type of man/character to slavishly take orders from a chairman and when he knows things are wrong. I believe that NA is far too principled for that to be the case. Edited 21 October, 2012 by miserableoldgit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 I wonder how telling the quote from NA is, "There is a vision at the club of passing the ball etc". Is he under orders of how the team should play or am I seeing demons that are not there? A bit of both, probably. I think NA is well and truly part of the decision making at this club, but he won't be alone if it is a club decision. He may well have been instrumental in choosing this style and formation, which in itself isn't the problem. The problem is the wrong people for this formation, choosing the formation before working out how we play best and not being able to move away from it now the decision has been made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 are you saying we have not tried anything different this season....from the starting formation to in game changes..? who is to say adkins always wanted to play 433...but knew in the football league that 442 rules generally..... who is to say that he is or was the driving force behind the 433 club policy...maybe he actually thinks he is good enough to pull it off.....after all, why wouldnt he think he a good enough to pull it off after the last few years...? maybe that is a posibility..? Err Adkins said himself yesterday Jamie 'we will play 4-3-3' You haven't explained why a manager known as successful for switching tactics wold now suddenly only stick to one formation, one that isn't working and has lead to us having the worst defence in premier league history at this strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 Adkins was known and very successful for adapting tactics and changing tactics last season to suit the opposition and it got us two promotions. Now he is sticking with 4-3-3 regardless of the opposition, regardless of the players available and regardless of the success of it. Please explain why a manager would have a complete change in his ethos that has worked so well in the past and stick with stick with something that isn't working, when for the last two seasons when a tactic hasn't worked he'd changed it, sometimes during games. Why change philosophy? Why change what has been successful? Of course, it's just me having a pop at the chairman isnt it. People saying the chairman interfere's over and over is making people believe it's true with no real evidence! Give Adkins some respect..I can't believe he is just a yes man and has not got his own idea's etc and I don't believe he is letting the chairman pick the team or formation etc. He is a studious guy who realises that 4-4-2 is outdated in this league and when you play it, you risk getting over run in midfield by every other team who play a more fluid formation with 3 in the centre of the park. Personally I can see what he is trying to achieve, I can see why he made the substitutions he has. I can also see why he thinks dropping Rickie is a good idea when playing away from home when the 4-3-3 becomes essentially 4-5-1 so the frontman has to be very mobile. We had a tough start and I think that has led the team to believe when we concede one we will concede a hatful and that's the biggest issue at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 Err Adkins said himself yesterday Jamie 'we will play 4-3-3' You haven't explained why a manager known as successful for switching tactics wold now suddenly only stick to one formation, one that isn't working and has lead to us having the worst defence in premier league history at this strange. That can't be explained with any more certainty than you can explain who is making the decisions, who is forcing 4-3-3, who decided on the new club policy and who is accepting responsibility for it behind the scenes (if anyone is). We know nothing other than radio soundbites, all we can do is try and join the dots and form a picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 Err Adkins said himself yesterday Jamie 'we will play 4-3-3' You haven't explained why a manager known as successful for switching tactics wold now suddenly only stick to one formation, one that isn't working and has lead to us having the worst defence in premier league history at this strange. our manager has played a few formations in the football league.....but can you 100% say that he did not fully sign up to this policy and that he was not the driving force behind it.. like I said, you have no idea if he always intended this when promoted with any team...? unless, you have "heard" something... he has been successful...very, in the last few years..maybe he thought a bit too much of himself to be able to pull it off with what we have... can you 100% say that is not the case...as his 1 liner of "we play 433" could mean anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 So what does it mean to say 'we have a process we are doing our best to adhere to'? What does that say to you? So you adhere to orders and instructions or do you adhere to something you decided for yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 So what does it mean to say 'we have a process we are doing our best to adhere to'? What does that say to you? So you adhere to orders and instructions or do you adhere to something you decided for yourself? I have no idea mate..just asking the question if it was possible that he was fully consulted, fully signed up and maybe even the driving force behind the policy.....is that not at all possible yes or no..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 I have no idea mate..just asking the question if it was possible that he was fully consulted, fully signed up and maybe even the driving force behind the policy.....is that not at all possible yes or no..? It could be the case. And If it is then Adkins is nothing more than a yes man as he'd change his whole management philosophy and turn his back on what has been successful to adopt to 'the process'. Would it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 It could be the case. And If it is then Adkins is nothing more than a yes man as he'd change his whole management philosophy and turn his back on what has been successful to adopt to 'the process'. Would it not? he would be a yes man..even if he was the driving force behind it..? how do you know his whole management philosophy...like I said...he is or likes to be a very clever and talk about playing clever football....who is to say that he ALWAYS intended to implement this formation shoule he have reched the premier league in this mini era...where 433 is all the rage..? you dont...I dont...but that does not matter though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 he would be a yes man..even if he was the driving force behind it..? how do you know his whole management philosophy...like I said...he is or likes to be a very clever and talk about playing clever football....who is to say that he ALWAYS intended to implement this formation shoule he have reched the premier league in this mini era...where 433 is all the rage..? you dont...I dont...but that does not matter though... So he's adhering- his words- the process that he the driving force behind is he?!! Why say that? Why not just say he's decided to play 4-3-3 come what may? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 (edited) Why is it? Adkins said we are playing 433 a number of people have said it and the blog from before the season mentions it as well. Why do people call things rubbish just because it isn't something they want to hear? Adkins is playing 4-3-3. It's his choice and it's possibly the right choice (certainly we were cut to ribbons by Wigan and Everton when we went the 4-4-2 route). He wants the whole club to play in the same formation to enable a seamless transition from one age group to the next. Makes total sense. How on earth does that equate to him having to play 4-3-3 because his boss told him to? It doesn't. It's ********. Cortese has no say whatsoever on the formation. Cortese has a say on players that come in. He has the final say, because he signs the cheques, but that is the same up and down the country. I'm not a Cortese fan, but to say that Adkins is his puppet is bull. Edited 21 October, 2012 by Chez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 So he's adhering- his words- the process that he the driving force behind is he?!! Why say that? Why not just say he's decided to play 4-3-3 come what may? I have no idea mate..but neither of us know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 Adkins is playing 4-3-3. It's his choice and it's possibly the right choice (certainly we were cut to ribbons by Wigan and Everton when we went the 4-4-2 route). He wants the whole club to play in the same formation to enable a seamless transition from one age group to the next. Makes total sense. How on earth does that equate to him having to play 4-3-3 because his boss told him to? It doesn't. It's ********. Cortese has no say whatsoever on the formation. Cortese has a say on players that come in. He has the final say, because he signs the cheques, but that is the same up and down the country. I'm not a Cortese fan, but to say that Adkins is his puppet is bull. Is out system not more of a 4-1-4-1 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambol2K9 Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 Adkins was known and very successful for adapting tactics and changing tactics last season to suit the opposition and it got us two promotions. Now he is sticking with 4-3-3 regardless of the opposition, regardless of the players available and regardless of the success of it. Please explain why a manager would have a complete change in his ethos that has worked so well in the past and stick with stick with something that isn't working, when for the last two seasons when a tactic hasn't worked he'd changed it, sometimes during games. Why change philosophy? Why change what has been successful? Of course, it's just me having a pop at the chairman isnt it. There's no proof of that, it's just wild speculation. I'll put my tin foil hat on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 Is out system not more of a 4-1-4-1 ? yeah maybe, but it perhaps is more of a 4-2-3-1. Either way it's Adkins selecting it and with no influence from Cortese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 Now he is sticking with 4-3-3 regardless of the opposition, regardless of the players available and regardless of the success of it. he has changed the formation in games on several occasions this season so he continues to show flexibility. Te fact is he has moved away from a 4-4-2 because he is worried about the midfield being outnumbered. He's spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 he has changed the formation in games on several occasions this season so he continues to show flexibility. Te fact is he has moved away from a 4-4-2 because he is worried about the midfield being outnumbered. He's spot on. Like against Wigan when we looked worse after switching to 4-4-2. Can see him going 4-4-2 at home against teams we have a good chance of beating e.g. Fulham but not away where we need to be more compact. and for good reason. The open question is whether we go 4-4-2 at home against teams like Spurs. Do we gamble or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 Also what manager will work with Nick Nack and 'the process' It's odd but Corp Ho used to call me Nick Nack on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 There's no proof of that, it's just wild speculation. I'll put my tin foil hat on. Apart from him saying he is doing his best to adhere to the process at the club you mean? Doesn't sound the words of someone who has devised the whole process to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 Apart from him saying he is doing his best to adhere to the process at the club you mean? Doesn't sound the words of someone who has devised the whole process to me. maybe it is a process which he spear headed..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 As I recall, Adkins said publicly in early close season that he wanted 2 CBs and on that basis he loaned out Martin, and had a loan lined up for Seaborne. We then went all summer without signing a CB until the last minute of the window, which I just can't believe was Adkin's fault. Even then the signing was questionable because although Yoshida is a full international a Japanese player who has been playing on the continent is bound to need time to settle in, regardless of how good he is. We should have been able to sign suitably experienced CBs before pre-season. Other clubs managed it. What happened to the bid for Rhys Williams from Middlesboro? It all feels more like a tight hold on the money by Cortese, not lack of targets by NA. We certainly ballsed up the signings of CB's this summer didn't we ? Reasons for this are pure speculation though. I do recall that some people quoted journalist Alan Nixon- who many on here came to regard as an oracle for Saints transfers -as saying we had options but were undecided !! [This inspires a mental picture of NA & NC in a Laurel & Hardy role, one twiddling his tie as saying " well, this is another fine mess yo've got me into ...", which one is which though is the question now ?]. As for Rhys Williams, the source of the story was Alan Nixon, and the bid was a day or so before the window closed, by which time Williams had picked up a major injury and was said to be out for weeks - possibly until Christmas. No idea if Williams will be back in time fr another bid, and even if he is, we will not be as much of an attractive proposition if deep in the sh1t in January (*unless there are enough ££££ involved in it for him of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 We certainly ballsed up the signings of CB's this summer didn't we ? Reasons for this are pure speculation though. I do recall that some people quoted journalist Alan Nixon- who many on here came to regard as an oracle for Saints transfers -as saying we had options but were undecided !! [This inspires a mental picture of NA & NC in a Laurel & Hardy role, one twiddling his tie as saying " well, this is another fine mess yo've got me into ...", which one is which though is the question now ?]. As for Rhys Williams, the source of the story was Alan Nixon, and the bid was a day or so before the window closed, by which time Williams had picked up a major injury and was said to be out for weeks - possibly until Christmas. No idea if Williams will be back in time fr another bid, and even if he is, we will not be as much of an attractive proposition if deep in the sh1t in January (*unless there are enough ££££ involved in it for him of course). Yep. Those comments where sneered at by many of this forum. How would Nixon know etc. yet many on this forum were stalking him between June and August desperate for any snippet of news, yet as usual on here the only things that were believed were the positive ones. Hilarious attempts as spinning Niges very clear comments about doing his best at adhering to the process at the club as being something they he ha put in place. I don't know why he didn't just say that he had if that as the case. He said he chooses the players and makes the subs, why not just say he chooses the formation as well rather than saying he does his best to stick to the process in place? It's very odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 maybe it is a process which he spear headed..? So he spear headed the implementation of a process they he's doing his best to stick to is he? Sounds like he was over ambitous If that was the case and very daft to spearhead something you don't have the players to play effectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 I think we'll see a Continental style appointment, possibly an Italian who will be Head Coach but no more. He will be in charge of the team on a Saturday, no more no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 he has changed the formation in games on several occasions this season so he continues to show flexibility. Te fact is he has moved away from a 4-4-2 because he is worried about the midfield being outnumbered. He's spot on. Very true. It's the 451 part when defending that is giving us all the problems with these formations, specifically who plays the lone striker. From a counter attacking point, Ricky has never been ideal and JRod insufficient threat. I would personally like to see Mayuka given a run in that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 We certainly ballsed up the signings of CB's this summer didn't we ? Reasons for this are pure speculation though. I do recall that some people quoted journalist Alan Nixon- who many on here came to regard as an oracle for Saints transfers -as saying we had options but were undecided !! [This inspires a mental picture of NA & NC in a Laurel & Hardy role, one twiddling his tie as saying " well, this is another fine mess yo've got me into ...", which one is which though is the question now ?]. As for Rhys Williams, the source of the story was Alan Nixon, and the bid was a day or so before the window closed, by which time Williams had picked up a major injury and was said to be out for weeks - possibly until Christmas. No idea if Williams will be back in time fr another bid, and even if he is, we will not be as much of an attractive proposition if deep in the sh1t in January (*unless there are enough ££££ involved in it for him of course). Undecided isn't the same as being indecisive. There are plenty of plausible reasons why we didn't sign more defenders -cock-ups on our side are one explanation but not the only one and not necessarily the most convincing one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintedwill Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 Im sorry but he was talking a load of rubbish. Loved him last two years but hes completely lost the plot. I think its time to go. It was lowes fault we went down not harrys, hed be good, curbs has great record, good managers around at mo. 1) Redknapp is a terrible manager unless he is given a shed load of cash to spend 2) If Curbishley is such a good manager, why hasn't he had a job for a number of years despite applying for them? Your case for getting rid of Adkins may be valid (although I don't agree) but your choice of replacements is about ten years past its sell by date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 Curbishley got Charlton promoted and kept them Mostly away from trouble for years. Then went to west ham when they were adfrift kept them up And they were 5th when he left. I really don't know what we should do but I think we should discount red knapp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 I said he would be sacked by December. Could well be gone this week. The chairman will have to make the choice, stick with him and see if we get the points we should in November, or get someone else in and give the a great chance of getting off to a flyer. I think he will be given to the end of November and hoping that we turn the corner, if not, I fear you could be right and gone in December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 Delldays is getting shouted down good and proper by Turkish now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 Delldays is getting shouted down good and proper by Turkish now. It seems I've got myself another stalker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 Yep. Those comments where sneered at by many of this forum. How would Nixon know etc. yet many on this forum were stalking him between June and August desperate for any snippet of news, yet as usual on here the only things that were believed were the positive ones. Hilarious attempts as spinning Niges very clear comments about doing his best at adhering to the process at the club as being something they he ha put in place. I don't know why he didn't just say that he had if that as the case. He said he chooses the players and makes the subs, why not just say he chooses the formation as well rather than saying he does his best to stick to the process in place? It's very odd. I don't recall many at people at sneering at Nixon for those comments. He'd been right about a lot of Saints related news by then and I remember plenty saying that he must have a good source at the club. More so than anyone claiming he was making it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 I don't recall many at people at sneering at Nixon for those comments. He'd been right about a lot of Saints related news by then and I remember plenty saying that he must have a good source at the club. More so than anyone claiming he was making it up. Oh believe me there were. Wes Ender was a stand out one demanding proof and how would Nixon know what players we were looking at. There were a number of others that held similar views. Totally ignoring all that Nixon had got spot on all summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 Few games in and it's not been great in the most part. However, seeing people seriously suggesting Curbishley should come in is just ****ing stupid. If you get your wish, I hope you enjoy the managerial revolving door once again if 7 games is all anyone gets at this level before being written off as "out of their depth". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 Presumably Nixon has now gone to ground, or has anyone 'tweeted' him to find his take on our managerial question yet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 So he spear headed the implementation of a process they he's doing his best to stick to is he? Sounds like he was over ambitous If that was the case and very daft to spearhead something you don't have the players to play effectively. This point is what baffles me the most. One of two things seems likely - NA was a part of the club decision to adopt a standard 4-3-3, which seems likely given he is first team manager. Or, he had little to do with it and it's being enforced on him and he had just pre-season to make it work. Either way, it seems odd that we have then gone on to sign players who simply aren't suited to it. One way or another, he knew how we would be playing, yet has signed out-and-out center forwards like Mayuka and JRod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 Oh believe me there were. Wes Ender was a stand out one demanding proof and how would Nixon know what players we were looking at. There were a number of others that held similar views. Totally ignoring all that Nixon had got spot on all summer. Wes and the like are in a minority of their own, you just notice them more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 The formation had nothing to do with two of the goals, 2 free kicks. The other two were giving the ball away and bad defending by Fonte and Yoshida on our left. The back four need to defend as a unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 Presumably Nixon has now gone to ground, or has anyone 'tweeted' him to find his take on our managerial question yet ? Blimey I had forgotten all about Al, I am on it lol!!!! We have been so **** this season, I have forgotten how to stalk!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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