Turkish Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 Perhaps Carsten Jancker should move into management, or could we entice Oliver Bierhoff ? We could make Michael Owen player manager and he'd fit in with our transfer strategy of nly signing forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 What's Billy Davies up to these days? He'd make our back line nice and straight and show the players how to put their laces through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 What's Billy Davies up to these days? He'd make our back line nice and straight and show the players how to put their laces through it. He was actually on the radio the other day, whoring himself out and saying that he was waiting for a big job to come his way. The short-arse little c*nt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 What's Billy Davies up to these days? He'd make our back line nice and straight and show the players how to put their laces through it. No, I reckon he'll be edged out by Phil Brown at second interview stage, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 good shout, but no. In a job atm but not in one of Europe's "mainstream" leagues Ole Gunnar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 Ole Gunnar? He'd be ok, but has been mentioned. The person I was thinking of was our own Marian Pahars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doughnutman Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 either way, it's not him Marian Pahars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 21 October, 2012 Share Posted 21 October, 2012 Let's not forget our very own Alan Pardew. Watching Newcastle play is like watching the Saints who won the Johnson's Paint Trophy with he same resolute defending. Get him back where he belongs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamSFC Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 As much as I love Nigel, and as much as I appreciate what he's done for us, he's been incompetent this season and seems out of his depth, so I'm starting to think it might be time for him to go. Benitez would be great but we are nowhere near big enough for him and even if he was interested, he'd want massive, massive wages. Realistically, I'd love Paolo Di Canio. He's Italian and his daughter goes to Southampton Uni, so it seems like a perfect fit. He's passionate, a great manager and a complete and utter lunatic. He'd be an instant hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 Branfoot what is he doing now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 It's written for redknapps return this week to come in and turn spurs over.....motd will love it. I doubt he would come if the rumour of a couple of years ago at Rownhams services are true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 I would really like Nigel to stay and do well but I think he has run out of time either this week or after another poor performance against Spurs. If I had to make a prediction about another manager I think it will be Benitez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 As much as I love Nigel, and as much as I appreciate what he's done for us, he's been incompetent this season and seems out of his depth, so I'm starting to think it might be time for him to go. Benitez would be great but we are nowhere near big enough for him and even if he was interested, he'd want massive, massive wages. Realistically, I'd love Paolo Di Canio. He's Italian and his daughter goes to Southampton Uni, so it seems like a perfect fit. He's passionate, a great manager and a complete and utter lunatic. He'd be an instant hero. One of the reasons you say he's a perfect fit is because his daughter goes to Southampton Uni? Yep , that is far more Important than any top flight management experience or ability to organise a fragile defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 One of the reasons you say he's a perfect fit is because his daughter goes to Southampton Uni? Yep , that is far more Important than any top flight management experience or ability to organise a fragile defence. Besides, if you are at Uni, generally you have gone to get away from your parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncoboy Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 what is he doing now Rupert Lowe might de a surprise choice but he demonstrated a good understanding of the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 George Burley for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 Well Di Canio has just been spotted by a mate of mine at Rownhams!!!!! Is that on the way to Crewe for tomorrow nights game?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 Well Di Canio has just been spotted by a mate of mine at Rownhams!!!!! Is that on the way to Crewe for tomorrow nights game?? If he lives in Nursling yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 Has to be Hoddle. I can think of no other manager on the planet that has even the slightest chance to sort our defensive mess out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suomi Saint Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 Hoddle on a consultancy basis for a while. Knows how to get 1-1 draws, is interested in youth development, and it would irritate the hell out of Le Tiss. The guy is an excellent coach, but he's been out of the game for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 So our football experts have in their collaberative efforts produced 6 pages of managerial ideas which would definitely be better than Adkins. Of all the ideas, I would like to propose a managerial committe with NC has the chair which includes Pahars, Solsjaer, Di Canio (because he's Italian and is a nutter apparently) with Hoddle as an external consultant on how to draw 1-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 Can't be bothered to read this ridiculous thread... ...any change of manager would just be a repeat of the mistakes of Rupert Lowe. Nobody is going to do any better with this crop of players than Adkins. If we change manager we must be prepared to be relegated, to lose half the squad and to begin to rebuild again. If we stick with Adkins he and the players will gradually together amass the Premiership experience necessary to turn things around. In our favour is the fact that QPR, Wigan, Norwich, Reading and Villa are also woeful - especially up front where we are strong. In addition, in January we will have the chance to right the mistakes of the summer and buy some quality defenders. We might even be able to cancel Aaron Martin's loan and see if he can do any better. He is certainly a more disciplined defender than the ones we are playing at present. Adkins has made mistakes and I am sure he would admit that; but people learn from mistakes. To change manager would just invite someone else to make the same mistakes and to begin the learning process a lot later. One thing I believe is that we need to stop changing around keepers and give the jersey back to Davis, working to improve his confidence and decision making. His start to the season suggested to me that he was affected by his past experience. If he can just get past that he can once again become a hero in goal. Boruc seems worse than Davis and Gazznigga just doesn't have the experience yet. Finally, I have to point out that Adkins has a lot more sense than to go with fans' wisdom for how to set up a team. I would suggest his decision to play Lambert from the bench was in no way a statement of Lambert's ability but was a tactical decision based on the idea of keeping things tight in the first half and then letting him come out at full energy against a tired defence in the second half. It worked earlier in the season and Adkins obviously thought it was worth a go again. We can criticise him all we like for trying things, but as Albert Einstein once said, insanity is 'doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results'. I am pleased that Adkins is not content to just keep doing things the same way when things are not going right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 Can we get Antonio Conte in during his ban (a la the Joey Barton and Marsailles thing)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 He'd be ok, but has been mentioned. The person I was thinking of was our own Marian Pahars Would love to see Pahars back here, however I think he might just be a little to inexperienced to manage in the PL. He would also have to come in mid-season and will have to get results almost instantly. Pahars joining the coaching set up and working under Adkins would be a good move, though I would rather have another coach to work with the defence and who is used to playing 4-3-3 join Adkins and Crosby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintalton Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 Managers as with players come and go from every club, some sadly, some needing to go. The only one thing that stays constant is the club. I will always follow and get behind every team we play, and every manager we have. Dont be fickle enough to say if someone goes/comes in i will never go to a game again. If you do that you are not a true supporter of 'Southampton Football Club', you are like many others up and down the land are 'plastics' who only go when the going is good and suits them. Get behind the club. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 Has to be Hoddle. I can think of no other manager on the planet that has even the slightest chance to sort our defensive mess out. For the life of me I cannot work out why people keep on about Hoddle - he did a good job at The Dell years ago...was totally crap at Spurs and Wolves and had to set up his own academy because no-one else will employ him!! How many jobs have been available since Hoddle was booted out of Wolves? If he is that brilliant why has no-one touched him with a barge poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydenhamssocks Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 For me Nigel has lost too much respect by not managing upwards properly and robustly e.g. Cortese and Reed. Would have liked to see him assert his territory in public but the bufoonish transfer activity over the summer - it was obvious to all but morons that we needed a couple of CBs and a experienced LB instead of JR/GR - tells you he isn't in proper charge and you have to be be able to deal with sharp politics at larger clubs. I mean who in their right minds plays Guly if you don't need to, I can only assume Guly has a clause in his contract saying he MUST play if fit. So whoever comes in, they have to set their stall out publically from the outset - Guly transfer-listed and playing the system THEY believe is right. Moreover, players need to play in their proper positions, so you bring in Reeves/Dickson/Shaw, only a d ick head would play one of our ponderous CBs at full back! Absolutely correct !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamSFC Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 One of the reasons you say he's a perfect fit is because his daughter goes to Southampton Uni? Yep , that is far more Important than any top flight management experience or ability to organise a fragile defence. No. I'm saying if he has family down here it's likely that he already knows the area and would be interested in moving here. Like I said, he's proving to be a very capable manager at Swindon and that's obviously the most important thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 Gary Neville. If he's as good as he talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 Gary Neville. If he's as good as he talks. Why not keep Adkins but bring in a defensive coach to help for a few months...anything is better than what we have at the minute - fresh ideas and if goalkeepers can have their own why not Jos/Fonte/Yoshida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 George Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 Jurgen Klinsmann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 Can't be bothered to read this ridiculous thread... ...any change of manager would just be a repeat of the mistakes of Rupert Lowe. Nobody is going to do any better with this crop of players than Adkins. If we change manager we must be prepared to be relegated, to lose half the squad and to begin to rebuild again. If we stick with Adkins he and the players will gradually together amass the Premiership experience necessary to turn things around. In our favour is the fact that QPR, Wigan, Norwich, Reading and Villa are also woeful - especially up front where we are strong. In addition, in January we will have the chance to right the mistakes of the summer and buy some quality defenders. We might even be able to cancel Aaron Martin's loan and see if he can do any better. He is certainly a more disciplined defender than the ones we are playing at present. Adkins has made mistakes and I am sure he would admit that; but people learn from mistakes. To change manager would just invite someone else to make the same mistakes and to begin the learning process a lot later. One thing I believe is that we need to stop changing around keepers and give the jersey back to Davis, working to improve his confidence and decision making. His start to the season suggested to me that he was affected by his past experience. If he can just get past that he can once again become a hero in goal. Boruc seems worse than Davis and Gazznigga just doesn't have the experience yet. Finally, I have to point out that Adkins has a lot more sense than to go with fans' wisdom for how to set up a team. I would suggest his decision to play Lambert from the bench was in no way a statement of Lambert's ability but was a tactical decision based on the idea of keeping things tight in the first half and then letting him come out at full energy against a tired defence in the second half. It worked earlier in the season and Adkins obviously thought it was worth a go again. We can criticise him all we like for trying things, but as Albert Einstein once said, insanity is 'doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results'. I am pleased that Adkins is not content to just keep doing things the same way when things are not going right. Thats thee problem Adkins has thus far shown no evidence of learning from his mistakes as he makes the same ones in the next game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkou Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 In answer to the question, I don’t fancy anyone as next manager. Hope we stick with Nigel for many years to come as he develops into a top manager. I know football fans are not in general known for their patience or football knowledge but the comments on here defy belief. Most of the managers named on this thread would be far worse than Nigel. Fact is, Nigel took over an average league 1 team and took them straight to the premiership. He has improved them to a good championship team but of course we are going to struggle in the premiership. Hopefully in January we will make some good signings and be enough to stay up but even if it isn’t there is nobody I’d want managing us next season in the championship more than NA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 In answer to the question, I don’t fancy anyone as next manager. Hope we stick with Nigel for many years to come as he develops into a top manager. I know football fans are not in general known for their patience or football knowledge but the comments on here defy belief. Most of the managers named on this thread would be far worse than Nigel. Fact is, Nigel took over an average league 1 team and took them straight to the premiership. He has improved them to a good championship team but of course we are going to struggle in the premiership. Hopefully in January we will make some good signings and be enough to stay up but even if it isn’t there is nobody I’d want managing us next season in the championship more than NA. We were never, ever an average league 1 team. We were always the big boys of that league, with the most talented and expensive squad available. We were never average, that L1 job was a great job for any manager IMO. But Nigel took it on and evolved us at the next level too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 We were never, ever an average league 1 team. We were always the big boys of that league, with the most talented and expensive squad available. We were never average, that L1 job was a great job for any manager IMO. But Nigel took it on and evolved us at the next level too. Absolutely this. Ridiculous to make out we were anything other than one of the strongest teams in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 Cortese Lol Cortese is already the manager . That's why Nigel has not been sacked yet Lets face it we all know how roofless the chairman is and if Adkins had actually been picking the team himself he would have been sacked weeks ago Cortese won't get a manager that won't take any **** He learnt his lesson with pardew. We don't need a new manager we need a new chairman. Everyone knows that including the players! It's only a matter of time before someone speaks up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 Former Saint Dan Petrescu had a fair run in management but seems to be struggling since he moved to manage Dynamo Moscow. Certainly knows a lot about good defenses and is someone who's always been in work when Saints were in need of his services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 Absolutely this. Ridiculous to make out we were anything other than one of the strongest teams in the division. Some people seem to have forgotten where we were 3 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 Cortese next action will probably to appoint a defensive coach to keep people happy. And that will probably be doddy as he's under the spell already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 Lol Cortese is already the manager . That's why Nigel has not been sacked yet Lets face it we all know how roofless the chairman is and if Adkins had actually been picking the team himself he would have been sacked weeks ago Cortese won't get a manager that won't take any **** He learnt his lesson with pardew. We don't need a new manager we need a new chairman. Everyone knows that including the players! It's only a matter of time before someone speaks up. Not Cortese but REID is putting the strings and making sure Nigel stays as manager. Bringing in anyone with any Premier League Experience or ability would see REID out of a job and put in his place for what he is. There will be no decent manager at St Mary's with REID in the boardroom, with the exclusive ear to Cortese himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 Lol Cortese is already the manager . That's why Nigel has not been sacked yet Lets face it we all know how roofless the chairman is and if Adkins had actually been picking the team himself he would have been sacked weeks ago Cortese won't get a manager that won't take any **** He learnt his lesson with pardew. We don't need a new manager we need a new chairman. Everyone knows that including the players! It's only a matter of time before someone speaks up. Alot of people are going to be in for a big shock when it happens. And a lot will still dismiss it as a someone bitter with an axe to grind and defend their hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkou Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 Well ok, we had a lot of potential, but that wasnt reflected in our league position at the time (and we had another very good manager in charge then as well). However you look at it, Nigel has done a fantastic job. Does that give him immunity from the sack, not at all - i just dont think we should be laying all the blame at his door and i havent seen any names mentioned on this thread that I think would do a better job with the players available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 Some people seem to have forgotten where we were 3 years ago. Yea - trouble is we are still there defensively! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese on Toast Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 Yea - trouble is we are still there defensively! I think we've improved slightly, Danny Fox would have been a godsend back then. Now we want him burnt at the stake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 Lol Cortese is already the manager . That's why Nigel has not been sacked yet Lets face it we all know how roofless the chairman is and if Adkins had actually been picking the team himself he would have been sacked weeks ago Cortese won't get a manager that won't take any **** He learnt his lesson with pardew. We don't need a new manager we need a new chairman. Everyone knows that including the players! It's only a matter of time before someone speaks up. Absolute bed wetting ,knuckle dragging,nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 Not Cortese but REID is putting the strings and making sure Nigel stays as manager. Bringing in anyone with any Premier League Experience or ability would see REID out of a job and put in his place for what he is. There will be no decent manager at St Mary's with REID in the boardroom, with the exclusive ear to Cortese himself. If your going to keep banging on about REID, can you at least get it right? It's REED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 Alot of people are going to be in for a big shock when it happens. And a lot will still dismiss it as a someone bitter with an axe to grind and defend their hero. I've no doubt that NC can we a fussy knob. Managing the team whilst using Adkins as his puppet....come off it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 I've no doubt that NC can we a fussy knob. Managing the team whilst using Adkins as his puppet....come off it I don't think he's doing that, but plenty of other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 22 October, 2012 Share Posted 22 October, 2012 I don't think he's doing that, but plenty of other stuff. I'd never trust a man who thinks ruthless is spelt "roofless". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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