Window Cleaner Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 Cause it´s Nigels fault that the players can´t defend the first freekick? And it´s Nigels fault that Jos doesn´t close down the opponent on the second goal? And it´s Nigels fault that Fonte throws his arm up and boxes the ball?? yeeeez..... This was (again) not a manager loss, it was stupid poor defending. We truely needs defenders, mostly a LB so we can play Yoshida as CB cause in those games with him there we´ve looked pretty decent.... but what were our options at LB at the start of the season ?? Fox Fox Fox and Fox or playing Clyne on the left, should have kept Dan the Hatchet until we got someone else. F*cking crazy decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 doubt if we could afford him actually. Wouldnt relegation cost us more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 NA for me.... We beat Spurs and WBA and the move up the table begins. Stick with our Nigel please. COYS Ottery, as ever , the voice of reason from Devon. In principle, I agree with you, and hope NA is in to fulfill his potential with us and the dream he started two years ago. That said, its pretty difficult to justify his team selections this season, and I fear this and the transfer failings in the summer will bite his arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 IF Adkins does go, Benitez for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 That was Porky Pie and the (your words) Gun runner, It was also West Ham and Bournemouth. He has form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 but what were our options at LB at the start of the season ?? Fox Fox Fox and Fox or playing Clyne on the left, should have kept Dan the Hatchet until we got someone else. F*cking crazy decision. Dickson would have been a better choice at LB than a CB playing LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 Wouldnt relegation cost us more? I'd imagine just one of our forward signings cost more than he would, so don't imagine money would be the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 Wouldnt relegation cost us more? Well yes but I'm not sure that we actually have any money, plus Nigel..contract until 2015=shedload of cash pay off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 Eddie Howe is doing well at Bmth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 Well yes but I'm not sure that we actually have any money, plus Nigel..contract until 2015=shedload of cash pay off. I dont think we are short of cash..... We outspent most of the prem this summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 no thanks redknapp or hoodle or strachan or curbs yes. Curbishley has always struck me as a slimey creep. WGS as great as he was last time I think would also be found wanting. Hoddle is in my mind, the most credible candidate you have listed, although it would inevitably reopen old wounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 Dickson would have been a better choice at LB than a CB playing LB. I think you hgave to accept that Dickson, for whatever merits he may have, will never put on a first team shirt again under the current management. Ben Reeves could probably have done a better job as well but I just don't think that that was a permitted option either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 Well yes but I'm not sure that we actually have any money, plus Nigel..contract until 2015=shedload of cash pay off. Depends how much that contract is worth - if he doesn't earn a fortune, it won't cost a fortune to pay him off. I wonder if the contract was a gesture of thanks to ensure he gets a good pay-off should he leave, rather than a commitment to not changing manager until 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 I dont think we are short of cash..... We outspent most of the prem this summer I think we're short of cash justly because we spent unwisely in the summer. We seemed to have borrowed money, something that we were supposed not to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surman4no7shirt Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 Poyet not a bad shout. The reaction from those freaks would be hilarious. Worth a tenner IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 It's written for redknapps return this week to come in and turn spurs over.....motd will love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 Cause it´s Nigels fault that the players can´t defend the first freekick? And it´s Nigels fault that Jos doesn´t close down the opponent on the second goal? And it´s Nigels fault that Fonte throws his arm up and boxes the ball?? yeeeez..... This was (again) not a manager loss, it was stupid poor defending. We truely needs defenders, mostly a LB so we can play Yoshida as CB cause in those games with him there we´ve looked pretty decent.... No but it is his job to tell them what he expects and how he wants them to play,if they cannot respond to basic instructions then it is him that has to be held responsible for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 I suspect that most of the names mentioned on here are completely unrealistic because of the fundamental philosophy behind the operation of the club. Under that philosophy the manager is not really a manager so much as an implementer of policy set farther up. I don't see any place for a Redknapp or Benitez or Curbishley - from our perspective or theirs. It will be someone relatively young and probably someone from the continent. If Nigel is to leave (what a sad day that would be) I'd love to see Martinez come here, but he really values his close and warm relationship with Whelan, which he certainly wouldn't have with Cortese because he's just not that kind of guy. With this on the horizon I wish even more that MLT would just stop with the anti-Cortese stuff because it sure as hell won't help us attract good people if a change is to be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 Adkins Out? Not yet. I'm glad I didn't get to see today's game, but seeing Lambert on the bench did make me wonder what was going on. Guly will never be a fan favourite. Boruc for Gazza, who until now had done little wrong? Questions can and should be asked. Any more results like this and Adkins will need fresh undies. It's all about the defence. We got relegated in '05 because our defence was shocking, and it looks like that may be the case again. Still is Adkins getting the sack the answer? We could replace him with God himself, but unless he can make very average defenders better, we'll still be terrible. It does make me wonder how many managers we'll get through this season. Whoever gets the job, should Adkins go, is in for a really sh!tty time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 Taking into account our transfer activity history, it will be someone from a league abroad with no PL experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 Needs to be someone who can set up a proper defence. McCarthy is as dull and dour as dishwater, but maybe he is right for this job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 Needs to be someone who can set up a proper defence. McCarthy is as dull and dour as dishwater, but maybe he is right for this job. He didn't do it with Wolves defence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 redknap the only manager capable of keeping this lot in premier lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 I would rather we stick with Adkins and go down then bring back Redcr@p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 I'd take Hoddle over Redknapp any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 Well the obvious first choice is Roy Hodgson but whether or not he'd give up on England is a moot point. With the FA chairman now being forced into retirement because he's 70 and he being Roy's main supporter, it is possible Roy would come here. I can't think of anybody better who'd be interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 Redknapp would never come back here. He would have no control over who we signed and hence would lose out financially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 Saggy Chops will never happen in a million years. He would last 2 mins before falling out with Cortese. Wouldn't be surprised to see an Italian manager though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 Could see Curbishley because of Reed, and his record is very good. Could see Hoddle as he is seen as innovative and able to adapt to a 'continental' set up, but think if NA gets the push it will be an Italian with Serie A pedigree as a manager... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 Adkins please.....and some friggin defenders on jan 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 As long as Reed doesn't try and do it himself again..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 I would rather we stick with Adkins and go down then bring back Redcr@p. Ditto I'd take Hoddle over Redknapp any day. Ditto again, but then again I'd rather stay with Adkins than either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 Needs to be someone who can set up a proper defence. McCarthy is as dull and dour as dishwater, but maybe he is right for this job. He didn't do it with Wolves defence Or Sunderland for that matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steadyeddie Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 So, if we are looking at the likes of McCarthy and Hoddle, I've got another controversial suggestion : support Adkins ! Agreed. Give him till the new year at least. We aren't down and out just yet. I still feel pretty positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLY Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 Obviously NA will be on his way soon so what does NC do? Go for a solid type Premiership manager and give him money in Jan to buy some defenders? Or will he only go for another puppet where he can dictate transfers? For me it's gotta be Mick McCarthy.... You are ******* joking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 I suspect that most of the names mentioned on here are completely unrealistic because of the fundamental philosophy behind the operation of the club. Under that philosophy the manager is not really a manager so much as an implementer of policy set farther up. I don't see any place for a Redknapp or Benitez or Curbishley - from our perspective or theirs. It will be someone relatively young and probably someone from the continent. If Nigel is to leave (what a sad day that would be) I'd love to see Martinez come here, but he really values his close and warm relationship with Whelan, which he certainly wouldn't have with Cortese because he's just not that kind of guy. With this on the horizon I wish even more that MLT would just stop with the anti-Cortese stuff because it sure as hell won't help us attract good people if a change is to be made. Personally I would rather a manager comes in with their eyes wide open rather than finding out later and legging it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 It's written for redknapps return this week to come in and turn spurs over.....motd will love it. or Hoddle.* *if you believe in Karma. Perhaps Eileen is the defensive coach we desperately need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLY Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 swallow your fu88ng pride and get saggy in before its to late hes at a lose end at the mo and is by far the best manager at keeping teams up fook off no chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 Surprised no one has suggested Steve Cotterill yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLY Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 Poyet ;-) yes please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 Shame we didn't line up Edgar Davids (only as a manager, not a player/manager obv) and give him a first chance at a managerial career before Barnet beat us to it. Knows the game inside out and has passion as well as tactical knowledge. No defence would dare concede goals like we did today with someone like Edgar Davids in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 Personally I would rather a manager comes in with their eyes wide open rather than finding out later and legging it. Fair comment, but Matty's campaign is mainly about how Cortese has treated people from the past - him, Lawrie Mac, Benali. That has very little to do with today in the eyes of all but the fans who remain loyal to those people. But when he starts up yet again with a widely-quoted "not a nice person" generalization - true or not - he certainly isn't going to help the image of the club when it comes to attracting prospective managers. Sure, I'd want a new guy to come in "eyes wide open" about the way the club runs, but not about stuff like this - even if MLT is justified in being offended at the treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 For me Nigel has lost too much respect by not managing upwards properly and robustly e.g. Cortese and Reed. Would have liked to see him assert his territory in public but the bufoonish transfer activity over the summer - it was obvious to all but morons that we needed a couple of CBs and a experienced LB instead of JR/GR - tells you he isn't in proper charge and you have to be be able to deal with sharp politics at larger clubs. I mean who in their right minds plays Guly if you don't need to, I can only assume Guly has a clause in his contract saying he MUST play if fit. So whoever comes in, they have to set their stall out publically from the outset - Guly transfer-listed and playing the system THEY believe is right. Moreover, players need to play in their proper positions, so you bring in Reeves/Dickson/Shaw, only a d ick head would play one of our ponderous CBs at full back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Jude Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 OK Cortese might be mad... but looking at some of the suggestions on here.. I'm glad you lot aren't chairmen... there is no way Hoddle is coming back into Management... there is no way Redknapp would come back to Southampton and work for an interfering chairman after what happened here and at Spurs... and no way that Cortese would employ him if the rumours are true... (plus he'd be absolutely mullered if it wasn't a miraculous turnaround). Personally... I'd stick with Adkins.. but go and get some him some help.. i.e. some decent defenders... the best defensive coach money can buy.. and work on building some confidence.. because we look very frail... chopping and changing gives you some potential for short term confidence improvement... but long term it's suicide.. Keep the faith... but give the guy some support...(oh and let him play 4/4/2 for a bit while we build some confidence) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 We need to stick with NA. Reality check time. We are in the Premier League. When we get relegated we will recieve a handsome parchute payment. We will bounce right back and be better off. We have always had in mind to follow the 'yoyo' strategy that I have benn telling you about for a long time. Stay cool, this season is not important in the grand scheme of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLY Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 Surprised no one has suggested Steve Cotterill yet. No ******* chance = skate **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLY Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 Agreed. Give him till the new year at least. We aren't down and out just yet. I still feel pretty positive. It wont be McCarthy or Hoddle but if we leave until the new year it will be too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO5 4BW Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 I would rather go down with Adkins than bring in Redknapp and I truly mean that! What happened to those singing one Nigel Adkins at Villa? Like the players at this league, he needs time to adapt and learn. Unfortunately the financial demands of having to stay in the Premier League just puts enormous pressure on everyone! Even if you think he deserves the sack he certainly doesn't deserve the abuse that he is getting! I stay stick with him...surely there is a bigger picture he and he fits into that well? Absolutely agree. I'm Saints through and through but won't go if that **** comes back. Our problem since Nicholl has been chopping and changing managers. We should stick with NA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 Can I be the first to suggest....... Just got to convince him to leave the US of A for good old blighty.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatvianTolix Posted 20 October, 2012 Share Posted 20 October, 2012 solskjaer or strachan. prefer ole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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