saint lard Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 You played your part in a great rise up through the leagues,oh and Pardew played his part well too,but alas you must go. yeah I know I have been banging on about how lack lustre he would be in the top flight for an age,but he has had his time. Great in the lower leagues,but the Premiership I'm afraid he falls short,which was going to be patently obvious. Thanks for everything. Onwards and upwards for Saints if he departs.
Thedelldays Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 I sadly agree. time to go nigel with your head held high as a saints legend...
Sheaf Saint Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 Yeah of course because it's all Nigel's fault that our defenders keep switching off and making stupid errors isn't it.
lordswoodsaints Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 His actions will be hard to defend after this game
Thedelldays Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 Yeah of course because it's all Nigel's fault that our defenders keep switching off and making stupid errors isn't it. unfortunately...it is...he carries the can, that is how football works
alpine_saint Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 You decided this before a ball was kicked this season. I was willing to spread the blame around by citing naff transfer activity, but today I've reluctantly changed to your camp.
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 You played your part in a great rise up through the leagues,oh and Pardew played his part well too,but alas you must go. yeah I know I have been banging on about how lack lustre he would be in the top flight for an age,but he has had his time. Great in the lower leagues,but the Premiership I'm afraid he falls short,which was going to be patently obvious. Thanks for everything. Onwards and upwards for Saints if he departs. TBF i wish you would clear off too....your agenda is pathetic...Fuk off
Colinjb Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 As much as I hate saying it. If Nigel Adkins was sacked tonight (as things stand) I would feel a little sad but otherwise indifferent.
Badger Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 Yeah of course because it's all Nigel's fault that our defenders keep switching off and making stupid errors isn't it. With the exception of Fonte today, they are largely his signings though.
SaltashSaint Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 The fact is Nigel decided it was more important to spend £12 million on a midfielder when our defence was the one area where we needed reinforcing. We are two good centre backs short and that has shown in every game this season.
alpine_saint Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 The fact is Nigel decided it was more important to spend £12 million on a midfielder when our defence was the one area where we needed reinforcing. We are two good centre backs short and that has shown in every game this season. Yep, apart from it wasnt Nigels decision.
sunrise Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 It's not Adkins, it's the team - they are simply not good enough to stay up. 22 goals conceded in 8 league games so far is pathetic - it won't surprise me at all if we get relegated.
Edmonton Saint Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 Yep time for Adkins to draw a line under his time at Southampton, learn from it and move on.
Sheaf Saint Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 I expect that penalty was all Adkins' fault as well then, yeah?
Thedelldays Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 It's not Adkins, it's the team - they are simply not good enough to stay up. 22 goals conceded in 8 league games so far is pathetic - it won't surprise me at all if we get relegated. so, are you saying ANY OTHER MANAGER would have the same results...?
alpine_saint Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 I expect that penalty was all Adkins' fault as well then, yeah? Yes, but thanks to him we have no CB alternatives. He's the manager, its his responsibility.
sunrise Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 so, are you saying ANY OTHER MANAGER would have the same results...? With the shower of ****e that is our defence then probably yes - it simply isn't good enough. That said, I think Cortese is going to act sooner rather than later.
Thedelldays Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 With the shower of ****e that is our defence then probably yes - it simply isn't good enough. That said, I think Cortese is going to act sooner rather than later. so, fergie or poortaloo would have got the same results.... utter bollix I remember WGS having a defence with Willo and Telfer and made a good fist of it......we are just a shambles.....from set pieces, when people run at us...everything...that runs deeper than just having better players
Toomer Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 The return of Gareth Bale next week will tear our defence apart, I think Adkins is a little out of his depth.
Sheaf Saint Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 Honestly, you lot are f***ing unbelievable. Have you really learnt nothing from our last 20 years of managerial musical chairs? Are you really so ready to give up on a talented manager who actually wants to be here just because of one single bad run of results? Did anybody really expect we would be setting the PL alight this season? I'm f***ing ashamed to support the same team as you pathetic bunch of whingers. So what if Cortese does pull the trigger and sack him? What then? Anybody else coming in will still have the same squad of players to work with until January, and the disruption of changing managers, changing systems/tactics etc... will only result in us being in a worse position by then. We've all been saying for years that what we need is consistency. We need a manager who will commit to the long term to stabilise the team and move us forward. Managers learn from their mistakes and Nigel has earned the right to prove he can learn from his this season. Sacking him would not only make us more likely to get relegated, it would take us back to the dark days of Lowe et al when managers were shown the door after the first run of bad results and the cycle repeated itself. I really, really, hope we don't go down that route.
Thedelldays Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 so bexy...should have have stuck with wotte...? should have have stuck with wigley..? if a manager is not up to it..he is not up to it...letting in a record number of goals says one thing to me......
alpine_saint Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 so bexy...should have have stuck with wotte...? should have have stuck with wigley..? if a manager is not up to it..he is not up to it...letting in a record number of goals says one thing to me...... Yep. Another month of hand-wringing will see us relegated.
Sheaf Saint Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 Yes, but thanks to him we have no CB alternatives. How do you know that? How do you know he didn't identify one or two decent defenders in the window but for whatever reason NC couldn't or wouldn't do the deal?
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 Honestly, you lot are f***ing unbelievable. Have you really learnt nothing from our last 20 years of managerial musical chairs? Are you really so ready to give up on a talented manager who actually wants to be here just because of one single bad run of results? Did anybody really expect we would be setting the PL alight this season? I'm f***ing ashamed to support the same team as you pathetic bunch of whingers. So what if Cortese does pull the trigger and sack him? What then? Anybody else coming in will still have the same squad of players to work with until January, and the disruption of changing managers, changing systems/tactics etc... will only result in us being in a worse position by then. We've all been saying for years that what we need is consistency. We need a manager who will commit to the long term to stabilise the team and move us forward. Managers learn from their mistakes and Nigel has earned the right to prove he can learn from his this season. Sacking him would not only make us more likely to get relegated, it would take us back to the dark days of Lowe et al when managers were shown the door after the first run of bad results and the cycle repeated itself. I really, really, hope we don't go down that route. Well said mate... The utter disgraceful attitude of lots of our fans on here is shamefull...
SaltashSaint Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 Yep, apart from it wasnt Nigels decision. I boq to your superior knowledge of our transfer dealings. However, were all the other inept summer signings made by Nigel or are they not his fault too? Is it someone's else's decision to not play Lambert and to change the keeper for an unfit one? The fact is, as a manager, you have to take the flak as well as the credit. Nigel has been great, but he is out of his depth. It is his squad of players and his tactics.
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 Yep. Another month of hand-wringing will see us relegated. No one has been relegated in November
Sheaf Saint Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 so bexy...should have have stuck with wotte...? should have have stuck with wigley..? if a manager is not up to it..he is not up to it...letting in a record number of goals says one thing to me...... No, we shouldn;t have stuck with Wotte because he was clearly the crap, cheap option in the first place. Adkins is a talented, young (ish) manager who I have no doubt will go on to bigger and better things, and I would rather he did it with us.
sotonist Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 Looks like he's hit the wall with this club. He might be able to manage at this level, but it doesn't look like he's the man we need right now. It might be too late to salvage this attempt.
RobM Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 Who do you replace Adkins with though? Benitez gets mentioned and would suit our long-term view, but what if he doesn't want to come along? Who else can do a better job than Adkins with the players we have, with the defence we have?
Thedelldays Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 Who do you replace Adkins with though? Benitez gets mentioned and would suit our long-term view, but what if he doesn't want to come along? Who else can do a better job than Adkins with the players we have, with the defence we have? dunno...but I do remember the general disgust when adkins was appointed...so who knows
simo Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 Its getting beyond a joke now Adkins refuses to change his style of play and we are getting spanked every game! Sack him now Nic
RobM Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 dunno...but I do remember the general disgust when adkins was appointed...so who knows True that, we could afford to take a bit of a risk then, moreso than now IMO. What we need now (again, IMO) if we are to replace NA is Prem experience, otherwise what's the point? We appointed NA as he had experience of getting a team promoted to the Championship. We now need experience of life in the Prem. I also want to stick to our long-term view of building a club for the future, which rules the likes of Harry out who can't seem to sit still for that long.
View From The Top Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 He certainly does look as if he's lost his way.
Thedelldays Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 True that, we could afford to take a bit of a risk then, moreso than now IMO. What we need now (again, IMO) if we are to replace NA is Prem experience, otherwise what's the point? I also want to stick to our long-term view of building a club for the future, which rules the likes of Harry out who can't seem to sit still for that long. biudling for the future may mean short term stability rather than a manager who is expected to be here 10 years
alpine_saint Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 How do you know that? How do you know he didn't identify one or two decent defenders in the window but for whatever reason NC couldn't or wouldn't do the deal? Bored with answering the same tired old crap arguments and abuse. Our position answers them and speaks volumes.
sotonist Posted 20 October, 2012 Posted 20 October, 2012 Who do you replace Adkins with though? Benitez gets mentioned and would suit our long-term view, but what if he doesn't want to come along? Who else can do a better job than Adkins with the players we have, with the defence we have? It needs three to five really decent signings in key positions and for all of them to stay fit. Don't think that'll happen so possibly might be better to let Adkins carry the can and look good to prospective managers having stuck by him.
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